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Anonymous No.40952822 >>40952832 >>40952853 >>40952884 >>40952988 >>40953000 >>40953282 >>40953334 >>40953668 >>40953810 >>40953872 >>40953900 >>40954463
why do trannies shot up schools so much?
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40952832 >>40952907
>>40952822 (OP)
It's ALMOST as if men's mental health is everyone's problem?
Anonymous No.40952853
>>40952822 (OP)
Joe rogan respects theyfabs. Based man.
Anonymous No.40952884
>>40952822 (OP)
Seth rogan or whatever his name should stick to comedy
Anonymous No.40952907 >>40953019 >>40953031
>>40952832
What? Bipartisan accountability? No. That can't possibly be the solution.

No, don't put on that tinfoil hat.. you're not allowed to recognize that the most popular expression of the erasure of men's mental health and it's repercussions in recent media (joker) was strawmanned under the title of inceldom. Or the coincidence of that strawman happening based on Heath Ledgers joker ... Especially the instigating incident being that movie theater shooter who everyone claimed was emulating the joker, even though he hadn't seen the movie and just went to the cinema with the most people.

Cause then you might think that men might possibly be victims and their mental health is deteriorating to tragic effect.*

And that's not possible cause patriarchy.

*this is not a causal relationship with trans. But people would rather blame trans for this than even indulge the idea that men are suffering and need help.... Both "sides"
Hitler of 4chan No.40952988 >>40952996
>>40952822 (OP)
> Ppppffffrrrrrtttttttt!!
Youre a fucking loser
Hitler of 4chan No.40952996 >>40953002 >>40953013
>>40952988
Anonymous No.40953000
>>40952822 (OP)
this is not correct. holy shit joe rogan got the facts wrong i cant believe it
Hitler of 4chan No.40953002
>>40952996
Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbut data is incorrect and rigged
Hitler of 4chan No.40953013 >>40953017
>>40952996
holy shit, 29K shootings and they are whiny about 7?

29000
7
Anonymous No.40953017
>>40953013
only 5 have actually been confirmed trans too oml
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953019 >>40953031
>>40952907
I love you and validate you in every possible way. Please continue to be you to the maximum effect. They'll tell you all sorts of things to make you stop, but I'm telling your right now, don't stop. Keep going. Jesus is watching and you're righteous.
Anonymous No.40953031 >>40953055 >>40953092 >>40953275 >>40953622
>>40953019
>>40952907
cringe. if you identify with the joker you are a loser.
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953055 >>40953076
>>40953031
6 dead
Anonymous No.40953076 >>40953115
>>40953055
well clearly the joker movie didnt save them
Anonymous No.40953092
>>40953031
>if you identify with the joker you're a loser

truer words could've been spoken
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953115 >>40953125
>>40953076
Well clearly the stabber went to dozens of doctors and was turned away by all of them, and his hick parents just weren't up to the job of raising a neurodivergent son.
And 6 women paid the price for that.
What does feminism have to say about their lives?
Those six women paid the price for Australia's ignorance of men's issues. They paid the price for seeing mentally ill men as something to be ostracized instead of care for.
I refuse to make that mistake again.
Anonymous No.40953125 >>40953172
>>40953115
the stabber was 40 years old. are you just making shit up?
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953172 >>40953216
>>40953125
What's his age got to do with the price of fish in china?
The point is that he TRIED to do the right thing. He knew he was sick and went to doctors for help. They told him to grow a pair and deal with it, so he did.

Six dead women later MAYBE men's mental health is EVERYONE'S problem?
Anonymous No.40953216 >>40953253
>>40953172
he did see doctors though from 2001-2020 which is when he stopped taking his anti-psychotic medication and stopped seeing his doctor. do you have a source on him being turned away from doctors? if his parents kicked him out i ask you have you ever been around a violent schizophrenic man? been expected to care for one when he threatens your safety? at what point does he have responsibility for his own actions? ie fucking murdering 6 innocent people. but lets cry for the murderer because everybody didn't kiss his boo boos from birth to death. get a fucking grip.
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953253 >>40953295 >>40953731
>>40953216
>a violent schizophrenic man?
Yes. In fact Im good friends with a couple of them.
>expected to care for one when he threatens your safety?
That's the job. That is literally the job. There are literally a thousand fucking ways to deal with it that don't involve telling the violent mentally ill man to go be someone else's problem.
>at what point does he have responsibility for his own actions?
The worst part about having a mental illness is that people expect you to behave as if you don't.
When you make good behaviour a condition of mental health care, you make mental health care completely fucking irrelevant. If they could behave properly THEY WOULDN'T FUCKING NEED YOU. The rest of society NEEDS you to do YOUR FUCKING JOB and deal with this so that they can make the taxable income that pays YOUR FUCKING SALARY.

This keeps happening until you fucking recognize that MEN'S MENTAL HEALTH IS EVERYONE'S FUCKING PROBLEM!!!!!!

IT'S THAT FUCKING SIMPLE!
Anonymous No.40953275
>>40953031
Personally? No. I don't have hallucinations or a compulsion to laugh during times of extreme emotional stress.

But the part where he was clearly suffering mentally, deteriorating with set back after set back, only to have people dismiss or ostracise (thanks em) Culminating in an attempt try to publicly ridicule him so people had something banal to watch and distract them from a crumbling society that for some unknown reason still supported a few in such opulence they didn't even see the garbage piling in the streets.

That struck a chord.

And society keeps going with this codependent bullshit, even though the joker movie spoon fed them the moral of that story, and it keeps happening in real time.
Anonymous No.40953282 >>40953405
>>40952822 (OP)
>hundreds of cis people do school shootings and nobody makes a broader point about all cis people.
>7 trans does a school shooting and suddenly all trans are evil.
Anonymous No.40953295 >>40953325 >>40953355 >>40953405
>>40953253
funny how women struggle with mental illness too and go through way more shit but rarely end up ever going on violent outbursts or harming their family members. almost seems like it's possible to not act that way, especially after 40 years of being on this earth and 23 years of therapy and medication
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953325 >>40953348 >>40953351 >>40953360
>>40953295
What's funny is that you'd rather get fucking murdered that recognize that men's mental health is your responsibility too.
That's legitimately fucking hilarious.
Anonymous No.40953334
>>40952822 (OP)
Why are so many shootings done by whoever using whatever that the current political party is rallying against?
Makes you think
Anonymous No.40953348 >>40953358
>>40953325
you can argue for men's mental health without defending murderers you stupid retard
Anonymous No.40953351 >>40953358
>>40953325
what aren't you getting about the fact that he was getting treatment, then stopped getting that treatment, then spiraled. how exactly did people fail him? you skip over the fact you literally made up stories about him getting turned away by doctors in order to spin a better sob story for him that rendered him even less responsible for his actions. honestly you're kind of a piece of shit.
Anonymous No.40953355
>>40953295
this is very true, but i think that it is also true that men are more susceptible, culturally and hormonally, to perpetrate acts of violence. the choice to do violent things is entirely their fault, but given this predisposition i think that it is reasonable to say that we should be doing more to support and encourage care for men who are emotionally unwell and potentially primed for violence
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953358 >>40953373 >>40953382
>>40953348
It's insane that you don't understand the point I'm making.
When men's mental health care is insufficient, WOMEN suffer the consequences.
>>40953351
What you aren't getting is that you're expecting a mentally ill man to behave rationally.
That's you being a dumbshit, not his fault.
Anonymous No.40953360 >>40953372
>>40953325
>be nicer to men or they'll kill you

go shove a ten foot pole up your ass
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953372 >>40953383
>>40953360
>>be nicer to men or they'll kill you
Literally this but unironically.
The reason you're afraid to go outside at night is because the mental health system has failed men. YOU PERSONALLY suffer, and yet you still can't recognize their pain.
Anonymous No.40953373 >>40953394
>>40953358
>What you aren't getting is that you're expecting a mentally ill man to behave rationally.
>That's you being a dumbshit, not his fault.
yeah you're right i guess we should have lobotomized him or something. would have made him a lot more agreeable.
Anonymous No.40953382 >>40953394
>>40953358
No literally all you're doing is threatening people. Most men don't kill people, even through mental health struggles. These people needs defending. The jackass that shoots up schools should've been out six feet under before he had the chance.
Anonymous No.40953383 >>40953394
>>40953372
>The reason you're afraid to go outside at night is because the mental health system has failed men.
are you seriously saying every act of male violence against women is because of the health care system?
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953394 >>40953420 >>40953455
>>40953373
Or just, y'know, recognize the fact that men with schizo affective disorder aren't the best at managing appointments and medication.
>>40953382
No literally all I'm doing is pointing out the FACT that mentally ill men are a threat to EVERYONE including women.
>>40953383
kinda. I'm definitely saying that if we focused on men's mental health women would be 99.9% safer than they are right now.
Anonymous No.40953405
>>40953282
You realize they just got done with the "young men are the problem cause they're doing all the shootings" articles, right?

At which point, are you going to start realizing it's demographic splitting so no one points the finger at the people controlling the media or the governments they're allies with when it profits them both? To make sure that people keep the meat grinder going and don't stop to say "hey, there's a bunch of people with resources to fix this" because that would lead to awkward questions about where those resources come from, why the resources are going towards the people controlling the media and not society at large. Cause then there's would be many many more upset people looking unappreciatively towards those hoarding resources while people are losing their minds and others are dying as a result.
>>40953295
Look up incidents of filicide. When women lose their minds and lash out violently, children are the ones that die. So there are women falling through the cracks too.

But even so, post of that owes to the fact that women are treated as a protected class, society is geared towards protecting women. They might have done it in the most condescending way in the pay, but contemporarily, it's resulted in a mass of women's health and mental health resources. On top of the simple standard that women aren't treated as a threat when they deteriorate. Women are afforded more emotional availability in society. Women are treated like they have emotions and not castigated or ridiculed for it.

It's not a fair comparison.
Anonymous No.40953420 >>40953431
>>40953394
>Or just, y'know, recognize the fact that men with schizo affective disorder aren't the best at managing appointments and medication.
he managed it somehow from like age 17 to 36. again, at what point does a mentally ill man actually become responsible for his own actions?
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953431 >>40953453
>>40953420
>he managed it somehow from like age 17 to 36.
If that were true there'd be six dead women alive today.
Why the fuck would you make a mentally ill man responsible for the treatment of a mentally ill man?
That's just dumb. You're dumb.
Anonymous No.40953453
>>40953431
ok? so lock them all up
Anonymous No.40953455 >>40953477
>>40953394
No, not pointing out facts. You're actively defending these people. If you can have depression without murder than depression doesn't necessitate murder.
So those who murder are bad and should not be defended.
"Men are bigger stronger and more violent so you must be subservient to them" patriarchy spouting fucking man.
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953477 >>40953537
>>40953455
>You're actively defending these people.
I'm not actually doing that, what I'm actually doing is pointing out that the system is to blame and that the system is equal part male and female. In fact in terms of mental health care it's mostly female. And when it fails it's females that pay the price.

Yet for some reason the females who are most in jeopardy from the lack of MENS mental health care don't seem to recognize that it's THEIR responsibility. They'd legitimately rather get MURDERED than push for more men's mental health resources.
Anonymous No.40953537 >>40953564
>>40953477
Stop that, rationality is forbidden. Next you'll start spouting nonsense like socio economic factors are the biggest influence on crime and mental health.

Or the worst, that were all just people and we live or die on how well we treat each other and leaving any group behind has a net effect on the whole.

But I get your frustration. It's literally better mental health care for men, not less for women. But the way they are acting you'd think they believed you're looking to roll back suffrage.
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953564 >>40953643 >>40953841
>>40953537
>But the way they are acting you'd think they believed you're looking to roll back suffrage.
Yeah that's pretty much the main reason I refuse to identify as a feminist. There is toxicity in feminism, as women get more and more power in society that toxicity grows with it.
I refuse to look at a homeless mentally ill man as the problem. He's the victim and he deserves our love and compassion and anyone who tries to dissuade me is wrong.
Anonymous No.40953622 >>40953656
>>40953031
>men see a mentally ill loner being abused and rejected by society
>find some degree of sympathy and representation in his struggles
>rape and kill him in the sequel to show men their place
s o c i e t y
Anonymous No.40953643 >>40953750
>>40953564
Oh, I was just suffered prolonged physical abuse by a bunch of women in my life, and was dismissed, even suggested as a preparator by any authority I sought to intervene, even when I had video evidence. Sort of took the shine off this idea that women are never violent, always victims, and people just ignore women. Throw in a moderate knowledge of history and how much it sucked for most people who weren't elite and that the elite included more than a few women, and that killed the patriarchy for me. Then I learned of the deluth model and had a run in the family court system and saw the systemic shit that very few feminists will even talk about and any that actively voice any opinion on it get shouted down, forced out of jobs and death threats.

The what part is the group Dad's in distress. That's the run off for sexually abused men, Men who are victims of domestic violence and coercive control. So not only did I get to see I'm not the only one like me, that resources for those things are so sparingly offered, they're all forced into a group that's not designed for it. Their retention rate is 10 percent of members. Which are mostly just the ones angry enough to keep fighting, (and the odd narcissist incapable of recognizing they aren't a good person)... Everyone else toughs it out alone, or becomes a statistic who they leave an empty chair or for in each meeting.
Anonymous No.40953656
>>40953622
I try not to remember the sequel exists for this reason. At least it serves as an indicator of self awareness in society.
Anonymous No.40953668
>>40952822 (OP)
Are we allowed to quote statistics now? Why are black people so violent and stupid
Anonymous No.40953731
>>40953253
TRVKE
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40953750 >>40953841 >>40953930
>>40953643
Yeah I know all of those feels. The working title of my autobiography at this point is "Lucky Boy".
You're not alone. They want you to think that you're alone but you're not. There are so many men suffering and they need someone like you to hear that suffering.
You're actually a good person. I love you.
Anonymous No.40953810
>>40952822 (OP)
I can make Joe Rogan do a 180 on most if not all of his politics. I just need one night in bed with him.
Anonymous No.40953841 >>40954191
>>40953564
Meant worst part, not the what part. Dad's in distress is obviously for Dad's who can't see their kids too, no thanks to the feminist lobby that rolled back the only rules that implied a father's role has value. (Howard brought it in 06 , Gillard half killed it 2012, Feminists finish the job in 2023.. During the voice referendum no less) but I figured that was implied in the name, the other stuff they don't advertise. You just get pointed there by DV services that are for men and women, but aren't once you tell them you're a male and you weren't the preparator. That or mensline, the 24 hour service where you get 20 mins to tell them your problems, they tell you to meditate and have a glass of warm milk. Offered by a counselor with like 30 hours of training.

That's the highlights of men's health in Australia. Or you go the acute care route but they'll turn you away unless your a threat to yourself or others, which if you lie just to get help, you can look forward to having a mental health stay on government records (which also come up in family court), disqualifying you from ever being considered a normal person.
>>40953750
I know I'm not alone, 3rd of the male population in the country have experienced this run through the system. 700 thousand of them got abuse just like I did. That's just the ones who will talk about it. Cause apart from bitching on the Internet under the illusion of anonymity, I don't talk about it. I can't.

But its still isolating. I know I'm not alone, but it doesn't count for much when just trying to talk about it to someone's face, even a shrink where I should be safe enough to, makes me feel unsafe and unheard.

Irony that I'm well in the danger zone, had a history of self harm and ideation, and despite the worst of everything I've described happening after I stopped. Still here, not a scratch on me, not a violent outburst or thing smashed.

Bugs me that people think that I owe them that though. Fuck them. I do it for me.
Anonymous No.40953872
>>40952822 (OP)
>out of X amount
Okay Joe, find X first then we'll talk.
Anonymous No.40953900 >>40954851
>>40952822 (OP)
I bet more trannies commit mass shootings per 100k than roasties
Anonymous No.40953930 >>40954191
>>40953750
Though on those that need me to listen. I'm not sure how I could. I mean obviously I can hear it, and will listen without judgement and believe them. But having to feel that over again, even as a bystander. I'm keeping it together, but it hasn't scared over quite yet.

I appreciate you listening to me, and the positive vibes too. You're a gem.
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.40954191 >>40954336
>>40953841
>even a shrink where I should be safe enough to, makes me feel unsafe and unheard.
That's not okay.
>Still here, not a scratch on me, not a violent outburst or thing smashed.
It bugs ME that they'd blame you if a thing was smashed on your watch. You need a break. Your watch is over. It's time for some you time.

>>40953930
You are going to make it. Despite it all, you're a good man and I love you.
Anonymous No.40954336
>>40954191
>not okay
The horrifying scope of how much of your life can be used as fodder by the unscrupulous is something I wish I never knew. Even laws surrounding it are so much more discretionary than I realized. The only effective way you can stop it, is to never talk to people. Having counselor transcripts from protected confidence given to my abusive ex and some others with their own dim view of me, to pore over, was trauma I didn't even know I could experience. But yeah, they would blame me if I did break. They send up a flare if I even start to express pain. Plus once you make it to the attention of people in authority, they keep an eye on you. So this is the life now.
>end of watch
You're probably right about the me time thing, get my show back on a more positive road. But I wouldn't know where to start. This shit has seeped into my every pore. Easier to pretend I'm someone else.

But, it wouldn't hurt this much if I wasn't an optimist. So there's a core of it there somewhere. So time to look on the bright side. Uh.. I'll get back to you on that. Maybe Mexican food or something.

Don't think I can't see your heart aching either. The support and care you've shown is soothing. Just, don't let the stuff eating me get you too.
Anonymous No.40954463 >>40954513 >>40954523
>>40952822 (OP)
trannies are more prone to these mental illnesses, Trump is right on banning trannies from buying guns because being trans counts as one. Same reason u cannot sell guns to a schizoprenic. The non-neurotipical shall not have a right to bear arms.
Anonymous No.40954513
>>40954463
You realize neurodivergent are statistically more likely to be victims right? Like the ratio of neurotypical perps with ND victims is way higher than ND perps with NT victims?

Maybe it should be the opposite.
Anonymous No.40954523 >>40954527
>>40954463
Being trans is not a mental illness
Anonymous No.40954527 >>40954575
>>40954523
Gender dysphoria is, and if you don't have gender dysphoria, you're not trans
Anonymous No.40954575
>>40954527
And if it ain't Fiona Apple, I don't give a rats ass.
Anonymous No.40954851
>>40953900
Hilarious you'd say that when literally every "trans" mass shooting was done by an FTM