Thread 41099425

Am I the only one to have gone from being like "we need to help others and intersectionality and redistribute wealth anarchy" whatever and stuff to jaded disillusioned single issue tranny?
I'd literally support fascism if it were pro trans.
I'd bomb Berlin if I knew it made me safe.
I literally do not give a shit anymore. No one gives a shit about us. They're all still talking about muh blacks muh indians muh cis women and no one gives a shit we're getting genocided. No one gives a shit we're the poorest minority. In fact we literally have to bow down to other minorities and acknowledge their struggles are oh so bigger (racism bad but AFAIK it's legal to be nonwhite everywhere lmao)
Fuck this shit world. Fuck allies. We're on our own. I'd gladly sell out every single one of cissies to make one tranny safe.

>>41099425 (OP)
Yeah same. Trannies need to be more tribalistic and selfish, we need to internalise the friend/enemy distinction and put trans rights before anything else.
Notice how trannies will passionately denounce racism, sexism, homophobia etc but cis nonwhites, cis women, cis gays, etc never give a shit about transphobia. It's all one way compassion and I'm sick of it.

>>41099425 (OP)
>They're all still talking about muh blacks muh indians muh cis women and no one gives a shit we're getting genocided. No one gives a shit we're the poorest minority.
do you live in Gaza? no? then shut the fuck up you stupid BITCH

>>41099452
>put trans rights before anything else.
And that's the problem, right there.

>>41099452
>blah blah blah
RACISM AFFECTS TRANS PEOPLE
SEXISM AFFECTS TRANS PEOPLE
SHUT UP AND READ
SHUT UP AND READ
SHUT UP AND READ A FUCKING BOOK

>>41099469
>average tranny: WE MUST CALL OUT RACISM AND SEXISM IN OUR COMMUNITY!
>average black cisoid: lol trannies are subhuman
>average cis woman: lol trannies are subhuman

>put trans rights before anything else.
if each minority group says "me first" then we waste time fighting for who's first in line while fascists kill us all
>I'd literally support fascism if it were pro trans.
it isn't, never was, and never will be, numbskull

>>41099452
Yeah I've come to realise that time and time again. I've even shut my mouth in the past. Fuck this shit.
>>41099456
Lol fuck Israel ofc but this is exactly what I'm talking about.
Anyway, black Americans, cis women, euro Arabs, euro gypsies, aren't in fucking Gaza either. But somehow Gaza is only used to invalidate trannies.
So, basically, fuck off and die.

>>41099425 (OP)
I kinda agree with how many leftist withheld their votes over gaza. I don’t gaf if lgbt hating Muslims are getting bombed atp

>>41099475
that's because they're cis, not because they're black or they're women. are men better? are white people better? are asians better? are jews better? shut the fuck up and think before posting, retard

>>41099469
Yeah no shit. I'm not even white.
>>41099475
You forget even the woke ones will tell us to shut up because at least we're XYZ unlike them who really suffer
>>41099476
No one gives a shit about us. NO ONE. We are last in the list for literally everyone. You have no allies. None. If you don't put yourself first no one will lmao. Commies love talking about racism but they want all faggots and trannies to die same as fash.
And ofc I know fascism is antitrans I'm not retarded, it's an exaggeration moron

>>41099477
>Gaza is only used to invalidate trannies.
no it isn't. it's used to invalidate the idea that you are the greatest and only victim. anyway, trannies disproportionally opposed Israel's genocide from the beginning and got shit for it. Zionists hate us for speaking truth to power

>>41099476
They literally all say 'me first'. Maybe in principle intersectionality is morally correct but in reality it just becomes a powerplay where one group tries to strongarm other groups into helping them with no reciprocity.
>>41099477
It's genuinely freeing to just stop caring and focus on ourselves, even if it is depressing

>>41099515
>I'm not even white.
me neither
>>41099515
>Commies love talking about racism but they want all faggots and trannies to die same as fash.
those aren't real commies they're tankies and Stalinists
>two wrongs make a right
no they don't

>>41099495
>are men better? are white people better? are asians better? are jews better?
Never said any of this, do you think I'm shilling for cis men? For white cisoids? lol

the death of intersectionality comes from the western leftist's aversion to engaging with class dynamics.

the tranny's only power comes from their labor, as does the cissoid

>>41099495
Yes and? I said trannies first not white trannies first?
Yet we're always expected to stfu like we matter less. And yes that affects black troons too. They got it bad as shit and no one gives a shit about them because they're troons. Why should I care about cis black people?

>>41099524
>Maybe in principle intersectionality is morally correct
it's not just morally correct. it's FACTUALLY correct.

Who is genocideing you? Tbh, all your problems stem from fiat currency. Fiat currency affects everyone, and left and right is just a distraction being pushed by the 0.1%. Sure, there are some edgy niggers on the right who will say mean things to you, but they are still just victims of fiat currency lashing out to make themselves feel better. This does not excuse their actions, but they are retarded niggers and should be treated as such. You can't afford a house because of fiat currency, you can never start a family because of fiat currency, you can never retire because of fist currency, the government imports millions upon millions of shitskin niggers who will eventually harm you because of fiat currency. I dont know what to say to make you feel better, but white right wingers are not your enemy, and trannies are not the enemy of white right wingers. It's all a distraction from the fact that your future is being stolen by the wealthiest among us. I unironically consider myself an alternative centrist now, BTW.

>>41099534
>we're always expected to stfu like we matter less. And yes that affects black troons too.
the people saying to stfu aren't real leftists they're "centrist" and "classical libersl" demonrats and shitlibs

>>41099425 (OP)
Nah theres plenty like u and they used to call me a "forest terf"

>>41099516
>truth to power
Gosh stfu
No one ever brings up Gaza to discredit BLM or whatever
It's only trannies. It's always trannies. We have to justify that complaining about being exterminated is valid ffs.
>>41099524
Yeah I'm all up for it in theory. In practice it doesn't exist. We're the only group retarded enough to never care about ourselves first.
>It's genuinely freeing to just stop caring and focus on ourselves, even if it is depressing
Fr. The world is hell, might as well make our place in it.
>>41099531
>those aren't real commies they're tankies and Stalinists
Nah lol they literally all talk about materialism, how identity politics are the scourge, and how queer theory is bringing the end times. Even mild euro commies are like that.

>>41099425 (OP)
never was anarkiddie cause that's mentally retarded but yeah sure I'm all non political and disillusioned now. I have hard right friends these days i trust more on tranny topic that most liberals. estronationalism would be fine i hate muzzies get rid of them but no society is making trannies a scapegoat for no reason

>>41099533
class dynamics are important but unfortunately the poorest and least educated communities in TX, WV, and MS tend to veer the hardest right

>>41099425 (OP)
I detransitioned in part because I couldn't keep pouring my effort into leftism only to get called a "shemale" by black organizers, sexually harassed by other trannies, and viewed as lesser by cis women. Refusing to engage the groupthink caused me to become socially isolated from other trans women, eventually pushing me out of having a support system altogether teehee

>>41099452
I've never seen any of LGBT denounce racism against whites, sexism against straight men, or homophobia against the letters that they don't personally represent except some narrow band of voices trying to garner political points. Everybody knows you're an intersectional movement trying to dislodge the established majorities, which is why those majorities have branded you as terrorists and extremists and are in the process of removing you from your power and platforms.

Next time, bet on the winning horse and make it about white straight men and how the lives of white straight men will be made better when they all have subby MTF mistresses. Then you'll find that the majority wants you around because it directly benefits them.

When all you appeal to is browns, LGBT and women, you're going to get political representation relative to browns, LGBT and women - which is to say, largely performative fakery that doesn't amount to any actual political power.

>>41099533
>work and money is what makes you worthy of existing if you're being genocided it's just a distraction for them to steal the workers money
I fucking hate you so much.
>>41099564
No. They're every leftist ever. The only ones that care are anarchists, but they're irrelevant numbers wise.
>>41099570
What's that lmao

>>41099584
i didn't bring up Gaza to discredit trannies. i am trans. i bring it up to discredit your shitty mentality. you aren't the world's biggest victim. racism and sexism and fascism are bad. real leftists believe in freedom and equality including gender. stop believing the shit infiltrators, glowies, and trolls say to turn us against each other & divide & conquer is actual leftist theory when it's just tweets fresh from CIA, Israeli, and Russian AI

>>41099587
Why should you hate Muslims in particular because the cissoids told you so? Islam is retarded but every single religion hates us like who cares you're still playing a cissoid game not putting yourself first
>>41099600
Gosh don't you retarded chuds have enough threads yet

>>41099425 (OP)
>>41099452
transylvania NOW

>>41099633
>why do you care they wanna exterminate you
you're literally doing the same thing you are with niggers here open your mind

>>41099626
I have never ever ever ever ever met someone that cares about trannies that's not a tranny. It's not about terminally online shit, it's literally everyone ever.
Fuck them. I'd have one billion cissoids die to save one of our own.

>>41099608
well i guess that makes me an anarchist but i actually identify myself as a libertarian leftist

>>41099648
At this rate why not put it in Antarctica and displace no one.
>>41099652
I mean yeah that's closer to anarchism than marxism lol

>>41099651
>I have never ever ever ever ever met someone that cares about trannies that's not a tranny
Why would they these days?
Real question.
Why would/should a straight, white, cis male/female care nowadays?

>>41099681
I don't fucking care that you don't care. The world would be better of with your kin gone.

>>41099669
honestly might not be a bad idea. i doubt greenland has much potential in terms of agriculture anyways

>>41099692
No, I am actually asking a question. Not being dismissive.
Why would/should they care?

Stop getting so violently angry that you perceive EVERY DAMN THING as a personal attack.

>>41099705
(though i think the idea was that greenland would be more habitable after climate change or something like that)

>>41099633
>Why should you hate Muslims
Because they're violent extremists with a long history of enslaving, raping and trying to conquer white people, including your ancestors. If your ancestors were not in fact included, its probably because you're brown and don't belong here to begin with.

>Because retarded cissoids told you so
You guys were lost the very moment you started thinking of the majority of intelligent thinkers as 'retarded cissoids'. The majority is, and has been, largely correct in all things. That's why society functioned all this time while you've been trying to tear it down - the majority is actually of sound sense and rational mind, its you who have the problem. You're the extremists. You'll never fix yourselves or your community without establishing that and accepting it so that it can be worked on, rather than trying to change what 'normal' is to be in keeping with what you think it should be, because that's never going to happen.

>>41099705
Yeah nah + Greenland is gonna get attacked by Murica. We could easily thrive with hydroponics. We'd just need defectors to bring us nukes so we can defend ourselves from the others.

>>41099726
>The majority is, and has been, largely correct in all things.
Imagine being this cattlebrained

>>41099721
I don't wanna talk to you chuddie ok
>>41099726
Oh you're truly mindbroken. Truly the cissoids' plaything. Good luck. They'll burn you like the rest.

>>41099751
>I don't wanna talk to you chuddie ok
All you are doing is proving a point.

>>41099726
normies r low iq subhumans. cissies had a decent view of gender back in ancient greece and pre abrahamic influence rome which is what we should return to but the majority today are cattle regardless of gender.

>>41099763
>make thread talking to jaded leftist trannies
>"chuddie needs attention me me me me me"
I hate your kin so much. Narcissistic pos.

>>41099742
>>41099751
>>41099766
And you wonder why you're losing. You write off the vast majority of the good parts of the human race and then wonder why they're not saying anything or helping you when institutions wipe you out, well, this is why. They can see what you think of them and care nothing for your attitude. In short, they don't want you here anymore, which is why you won't be.

>>41099735
why not quietly build the nukes ourselves

>>41099782
>Asked a very simple, non-trick question that, unfortunately, requires them to look at themselves
>"RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

This tranny will be murdered by shitskins one day

>>41099726
>>41099766
society hasn't really been functioning in about 60 years. it's been degrading for a long time because of how bad we broke it. most of the deathknells of modernity were able to be counteracted by individual human grit but then we invented the stranger danger narrative to start a war on children and those who love and teach them. now people don't learn like they should and the humans we create are fundamentally less capable. kids today have zero independence and that is whats accelerating societal decay more than anything since they grow up to be useless. whatever we do next it needs to be giving children the freedom to make their own choices discover their own world and become their own people. our parents were more mature at 14 than we are at 30.

>>41099803
I'm sadly too retarded for that. I'm mindbroken by abuse and rape and I've always been into art not science. But if some can amazing.

Picrel, future base for our naval activities in Trannyjistan

>>41099822
>our parents were more mature at 14 than we are at 30
My mum parentified me and my dad is in jail for extreme rapes

>>41099831
that sucks anon. im sure we can gather enough engineer trannies though

>>41099822
thats another thing those ancient societies did better. youth were mentored in skills by masters of their fields. now we funnel people into general education which putting aside that its been gutted it always had to move at the pace of the lowest common denominator, which is fatal to great young minds capable of so much more. when is the last time you heard of someone "skipping a grade" ? it doesnt happen anymore.
>>41099848
im sorry that happened im speaking more generally on the capabilities of each generation decreasing as we limit children's independence and growth more and more as a whole

>>41099868
Lol I have a master in sciences but I forgot everything and I only forced myself to do it because my family didn't want me to do literature or whatever else.
I'm not great at stuff. I started tk collapse when I transitioned 8y ago, then got raped and the effects were a slow burn, then barely finished my masters, and now am trying to rebuild myself. It's whatever.

>>41099871
>im sorry that happened im speaking more generally on the capabilities of each generation decreasing as we limit children's independence and growth more and more as a whole
I mean i kinda agree with the idea but also our parents were retarded too is what I'm saying. It's definitely not helping though.
I literally wasn't allowed to go out during my teens (but my sister was.) Wanna go eat sth outside with friends at 13 just in front of school? Nah, I'm gonna grab you with my car and hit you because the teachers let you out late.
Idk.

>>41099911
well our parents were victim to it too they were the generations whose parents got the "do you know where your kid is?" ads on TV. And even before dedicated propaganda was invented to kill independence modernity is built on denying excellence and community which fosters it in the first place. we've had seeing children as people beaten out of us and it has royally fucked society

I've become even more of a communist and I don't care about intersectionality anymore
Class is the first issue, everything else, including trans rights, comes second

>>41099891
>now am trying to rebuild myself
wish you well on that

>>41100021
Thanks nona
>>41100006
Marxists dgaf about lumpen. If you can't produce, if you don't believe that helping society is a net benefit, you're worthless. Prostitutes are lumpen, queers are lumpen, homeless are lumpen, disabled are lumpen.
Why should I give a fuck about WORKERS. This world made it so much harder for bitches like me to work. Ungroovy world. It's all senseless but somehow some alcoholic dude who beats his wife and children is worth a thousand of me because he works at a factory, while creating ppl like me.

>>41100006
The real redpill is realising that material conditions don't matter that much actually. Human beings are social animals first and foremost, whose primary concerns are issues of identity, community, and social life, and if anything the base structure is subordinate to the superstructure.

>>41100053
> primary concerns are issues of identity
Lol

>>41100050
>From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
You WILL contribute and there will be no shirkers, no a disabled person will not be asked to do hard manual labour
Society will be made to love work and those who do not work will be arrested and reeducated
There is work for you
>>41100053
You are incredibly privileged and it's disgusting

>>41100069
Look at any major conflict in world history and nine times out of ten it's over ethnic, religious, or national identity. People don't actually care about muh material conditions that much. They care about the people around them (for good or for ill).
>>41100090
>You are incredibly privileged and it's disgusting
Look at the most impoverished countries in the world, do you find people unconcerned with issues of identity and social life? You find the exact opposite, the global south is more religious, has more ethnic conflict, stronger national liberation movements, etc. If anything it's the opposite, it's people who are privileged enough to have their social needs securely met who pretend that material conditions trump all when reality indicates the exact opposite.

>>41100128
>it's people who are privileged enough to have their social needs securely met who pretend that material conditions trump all when reality indicates the exact opposite.
*who are the most privileged of all

>>41100090
>You WILL contribute and there will be no shirkers, no a disabled person will not be asked to do hard manual labour
>Society will be made to love work and those who do not work will be arrested and reeducated
>There is work for you
Least fash marxist
I'd rather slit my wrists than do labour for some red cunt who'll have me do sex labour or whatever else. I don't want your utopia, your commune.
Like fr, I'd rather be in my socdem state. I'd rather have a society "exploit the 3rd world" (despite being some Scandi place with no colonies kek) and have my life be materially (o you love that word) better. Because fuck you. I matter. You don't.

>>41099425 (OP)
As a trans women my first priority is supporting capitalism because I don't want to starve and it would make my abusers cringe.

>>41099651
my kin isn't just trannies
my people
my family
they call tea chai
so do those in Gaza
i hate Israel
i feel kinship with people in the middle east the US kills
many of my ancestors are Syrian Christian
which is a non-Catholic, non-Western Christian
like many Palestinian Christians also are
when they die, my kin are dying
and when people are racist to me
sometimes they mistake me for half Black
or Hispanic/Latino
or Arab
or Jew
and when people are transpobic, sometimes they're sexist, too
peoples mistake me for a "weird lesbian" or trans man

>>41100300
capitalism causes starvation you idiot

>>41100595
I don't have people. I hate my family.
I care about animals. Most people kill them for fun. I should care about them?
When people are racist they call me sandnword
Sucks but it doesn't matter. It doesn't affect my life in the same way transphobia does, there is no way states in Europe will legislate against ethnicity. I have a citizenship, I'm safe.

>I'd literally support fascism if it were pro trans.
LOL thats a helluva "if". You'd support fascism if it magically became accepting of "le degenerates"? What does that even mean?

Anyway of course trannies have to look out for themselves first and foremost. Same as black people and women and indians and whoever else. But you aren't going to magically find the pro-trans fascists anytime soon anyway, fascists will eliminate the smaller minorities before larger ones

>>41100661
And even like if the euro states start sending Arabs to Arab countries, it'll be okay for most of them. Not great but they won't get killed.
You know for whom it won't be okay? Trannies.

I was never a leftist. I never opposed the American state. I love Christ.

>>41100674
I hate fash. It's an exaggeration to explain how over i am about anything else than trans rights. Is all.

Even itt ppl shit on us for daring to think about ourselves first.

>>41100698
>I never opposed the American state.
>I love Christ.
Choose one

>>41100150
This is the closest thing to actual honesty about the way politics really works ITT. It should be said that this applies to the vast majority of people alive, too. If you're brown, if you come from the third world, if you're LGBT - you don't matter. Never did - it was just performative politics to divest the majority of its wealth and platform. Now that you're no longer useful, you're being discarded. Next time choose better allies than Corporate and appeal to the actual people whose countries you're living in.

>>41100709
stupid idiot democrat

>>41100724
I'm a tranny. I'm not white.
I just don't care about cissoids. I care about trannies (and maybe other queers when I'm feeling nice)
But yeah. I don't care if billions had to suffer to make my life better, which is somehow a thing thirldwordists believe. I'd rather my life be easy. Isall.

>>41100724
>>41100763
And you might say "you don't care about 3rd world trannies"
I do. They should all be able to come live in the best welfare states, as refugees. We can leave the cissoids rot though.

>>41100703
I don't shit on you at all. You are the #1 enemy of the right wing propaganda machine and you are <1% of the population, ultimately you are in a very very vulnerable place. Of course your survival and existence is going to be all you can think about.
I hope one day you live in a world where you are comfortable sand safe enough to care about kids with cerebral palsy and the health of wetlands and the innocents in the Amhara region of Ethiopia. I'm truly sorry that you don't.

>>41100736
>seething
You cannot serve both God and Mammon. The MAGA cult is a Satanic cult. Try reading your Bible and your catechism

>>41100763
We don't care if you have to suffer for things to return to normality, either. Its not personal, its just business.

>>41100781
There isn't going to be a welfare state without the normal people in society. (Read: cissoids) Your existence and the rights you use to lambast the majority are bought and fought for by the majority and once its gone, you're going to be surrounded by third worlders and extremists who do not believe what you believe. Everywhere will be a third world shithole, there won't be any welfare or wellness. That's why we're de-browning the West and de-LGBT-ing it while we're at it. The rich were willing to use you as useful idiots, they're not willing to crater the international wealth and property they hold to defend your moral position.

>>41100793
You know I'm really just kvetching. I'm just so mad. I truly just wish to be safe and that's looking less and less likely by the day. I hate that I'm told I should do activism by cis ppl when the penalty for me getting arrested is endless rape because I'm a tranny. I hate that I'm even scared to go outside nowadays because I dont fucking know
I try to live a life where I don't harm anyone, human or not. I just can't do anything more.

>>41100838
Like I just want to have a nice apartment and be safe and that my cat is safe and that my partner is safe and I want enough money to be comfortable or to be able to move if we need to
I want to be able to buy nice food because I don't wanna travel I just want good tomatoes
Idk I'm high rn I just want a simple life and I hate that because ive been abused and I'm afflicted with PTSD and other mental illnesses + I'm a tranny this has been made so hard just a normal life that most humans can access is just almost out of reach for me but yknow "You're not disabled so you gotta work" says the marxist but I'm so mentally ill my body HURTS every single day and I try and do stuff to be better and I'm doing better but then I get something horrible happen again and I can't I'm so tired

In fairness, when someone actually does something for us, even if retarded and misguided, we don't exactly send them love and support.

Tyler Robinson is in a cell. Right fucking now. And rather than grapple with that fact, that he is literally dying for us, we spat and bitch about Gaza.

Luna Twiggs is in deep deep shit. She won't have a lawyer. Where the fuck are the St George Trannies?

>>41100891
I agree with you anon it's fucked. When George Floyd died despite everything he was (not a saint I mean) people rightfully rioted
We lose innocent teens and no one gives a shit. We lose Brianna or whoever else plenty of black trannies brown trannies in hate crime and no one gives a fuck about us. And we don't even give a fuck about ourselves.

>>41100838
>>41100885
Of course you do. I'm so sorry the world is so evil and I wish that America was a less dipshit evil society.

>>41100891
>And rather than grapple with that fact, that he is literally dying for us
The second trannies try to turn Tyler into some Luigi style folk hero is the second that gets used against them as the evil demonic trannies who just hate Kirk for being a Christian. The nature of being such a small scattered minority is that they cannot do much for themselves period. That's what makes them the perfect scapegoat for chuds to try to gain a foothold with. (They absolutely dont stop there of course but its the easiest place for them to start)

>>41101018
>Of course you do. I'm so sorry the world is so evil and I wish that America was a less dipshit evil society.
I'm actually French so it'll take 2-3y for it to go as bad as in America probably then again idk they're all crying because poor Kirk is dead and whatever every politician is MAGA and the only one that's not is a literal plant
Trying to get citizenship in a safer country but it's taking long af :(

>>41100632
I love capitalism so much it just makes me so happy

>>41100891
Tyler Robinson is an evil piece of shit murderer who only accomplished three things:
1.) turning a replaceable mainstream conservative figurehead that normies liked into a martyr that is currently being used to justify authoritarian government crackdowns
2.) demonizing trannies by association (which is loose and forced, but that doesn't matter to the people using this to create anti-trans propaganda) in the eyes of normies
3.) Ruining his gf's life

>>41101060
>safer country
Which one? Also can't you just move to any EU country?

>>41101164
>if the Jews and their allies just behaved better, the Nazis would have never done the Holocaust!

>>41099425 (OP)
I really have become so single issue bc I feel like my life is at stake, I care about many other policies but how can I value you those rn when at best any quality of life is on the table with threats of getting rid of hrt and at worst the further demonization of trans people until my life is directly at risk

>>41101173
I am in another one (Sweden) but I dont have citizenship yet so if they ever leave EU (and it's likely to implode) idk what would happen
I am eligible for citizenship it's just taking super long
To make matters worse my gender is only changed in Sweden not France because I can't change it there because you need a judge to do it and I dont live there its so retarded I started back in the day they ask for picture proofs before after timelines so humiliating I never got around to doing it. I'm planning on abandoning my French citizenship when I get the Swedish one fuck this shithole

>>41101176
>the holocaust wouldn't have happened if jews actually started sacrificing children to moloch to pwn hitler

>>41101164
>normies = chuds
Among the stupidest angriest hicks you know maybe. I dont know anyone who gives a fuck about Kirk at all and I live in Michigan

But I do agree with your overall point. Just like Luigi didn't magically make healthcare better, Tyler isn't going to magically make social conservativism go away.
And I can't feel anything but deep horror for the gf, her family hated her already and she is always depicted as the true mastermind behind the killing (somehow), chuds blame her 100%.

>>41101282
Do you not talk to normies? They absolutely were upset that a popular mainstream political guy got shot in front of a crowd of people, even democrats and people who usually don't talk about politics were shocked and horrified by it
>Tyler isn't going to magically make social conservativism go away
Yeah, he made it way worse actually.

>>41099425 (OP)
I'm just a pacifist

>>41101441
I'm a better person than anyone otb because I'm vegan which is like mega pacifist

>>41101454
I'm not a vegan because I don't like fruit

>>41101478
That's retarded for so many reasons. You're retarded.

>>41101478
>I don't like fruit
but anon, you are one

>>41101422
>Do you not talk to normies?
I think so, unless all my friends and family except my one MAGA aunt all count as freaks. Nobody I know supports it, but (maybe because I'm from an educated background?) nobody liked him when he was alive and nobody is blaming trannies for fucks sake, most people see it for the hypocritical casus belli that it is, or just barely care at all

Kirk has a net neutral favorability rating even after getting shot in the neck and before most of the increasing chuddie crackdowns:
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_igbnSqu.pdf#page19

>>41101489
I mean like
>be literal fruit eating monkey
>"I don't like fruit"
Like not even talking about how being vegan isn't eating apples but like fruits are literally nature's candy how fucked are yanks they can't even appreciate mango or cherries or??? Do they prefer artificial grape flavour lmaooo

>>41101525
Yeah people are overstating his importance to make it seem like it's over or to fearmonger. There's a school shooting 2-3 times a year. Americans will forget about kirk by the end of the month. This didn't actually change anything imo

>>41099425 (OP)
Politics makes you angry and miserable. The only way to win is not to play and live your best life

>>41102424
is there a genuine way to ignore politics? I would like to start doing this but it seems incredibly hard to do,,

>>41102553
I can be difficult, but I don't watch or read the news, and if anything looks too political online, I nope the fuck out of it

>>41099425 (OP)
>Am I the only one to have gone from being like "we need to help others and intersectionality and redistribute wealth anarchy" whatever and stuff to jaded disillusioned single issue tranny?
I'd literally support fascism if it were pro trans.
No trooned out over a decade and a half ago and am the same and political beliefs went the same way as yours, I’ll step on anyone to make my tribe safe and if that involves keeping everyone else living in fear and misery so be it.

>>41100933
We lose people and we get worse then no one giving a shit they actively laugh about it. Reading the way feminists talked about Brianna pushed me over the edge. Bring on reform.

>>41099425 (OP)
Yeh I have kind of been leaning this way as well, like I think Homosexuals and Transexuals constitute two entirely unique cultures above and beyond any apparent, geographic/national cultures. And likewise we have our own moral codes, values, etc. And it is generally a waste of time for us to try and adapt and adopt ideologies from fundamentally different, heterosexual cultures.

I'll just say this. That we're working with a lot of mindbroken and retarded useless people. Less so in the Homosexual camp, but still. I think there should be some ideological effort to not only make people aware of these realities but also to turn them into functioning human beings who can do whatever must be done. Like if you're over the age of 25 it's time to wrap it up and start getting serious. I wish I could impress that on people more.

>>41099425 (OP)
Just stop being an illiberal idealist like the internet wants you to be.
Not everyone has to agree or think the same thing. Internet politics is absolutely fucking aids because none of these people have to live with or tolerate each other in the real world.

People should treat internet politics like they treat internet dating advice. It’s all lonely retards who have no actual experience claiming to know everything. If you actually care about fixing things in the world join some local org and start fixing them.
Conservatives might be backwards retards a lot of the time but they understand the real world too, politics, charity, it all states at home. In your household, your family, your community.

>>41099584
>how identity politics are the scourge
Isn't the argument for this because identity politics leads to culture wars which only divides the proles further instead of uniting them against the Big Bad (the bourgeois)

>leftist

>help others
>intersectionality
>redistribute wealth
they should have never given americans politics

>>41099425 (OP)
same

>>41102888
fuck any cissoid who thinks I should care about "intersectionality" or "landback" or some other shit, I simply want my own rights and to be treated as a person, not to be someone leftists and liberals can show around to show how much of a good progressive they are

>>41099425 (OP)
Its refreshing to see Trans individuals finally acknowledging they were just used as political tools. People didn't start hating Trans suddenly one day, it happened over years when democrats used them to curtail and trample the rights of people at large and Trans playing along for easy privilege to the point they became abhorrent for the common folk and in turn a launchpad for the absolute state of things at present. People initially were perfectly fine and accepting with the let people live as they identify but that got extremely weaponized. Denial of the timeline won't do a thing except dig the grave further, its important to understand why it happened in order to remediate things.

>>41100006
Yeah I’d vote for facism just to rid the world of people like you

>>41099425 (OP)
I'm with you. Of course in practice fascists will never be pro-trans but I understand the sentiment. Trans people need to spend more time caring for themselves and other trans people, and do a better job kicking out cissoids and trenders who would waste our time with stupid pedantic shit.
>>41099469
Sure, but consider this. Trannies are a marginal minority even if there is intersectionality with those other groups. For decades, centuries even, black liberation didn't mean liberation for black trannies, and women's liberation didn't mean liberation for trans women. So certainly there is no need to be antagonistic towards black people or women, because that would be retarded. But should the 0.1% of the population that are trannies spend their time helping groups of people that are 13% or 50% of the population, especially while trannies are constantly going through different crisis? The efforts of trannies are best spent on other trannies, because at the end of the day that's the only group of people you can consistently rely on to understand your experience. Like in Britain from what I've heard they literally don't have any larger parties that are accepting of, let alone pro-trans. Should a british tranny pretend all is fine and good and vote for people who are on stage implying you're subhuman on the daily just because they're more progressive on immigration? What kind of bullshit is that?

>>41099425 (OP)
The only team I am on is team me. And that leans toward libertarianism. How could you say you support fascism? A power tripping dictator telling you what to do and not to do because it doesn’t fit within HIS values of what his “volk” should be like? I don’t give a shit nor do I identify with the “volk”

>>41099425 (OP)
You aren't the only one but I think y'all gross as fuck.

>>41099425 (OP)
>we're being genocided
this isn't remotely true and you know it

>>41099425 (OP)
100%. i was super progressive thru highschool, into intersectionality and anarchy and everything you mentioned. i actually cared.
now im just completly single issue. does someone like trannies? no? then i hate them. do they like trannies? then theyre fine. thats it. thats all i care about.
you said it perfectly. nobody is coming to save us.
take up arms anonettes.

https://youtu.be/CJcZgdZEq0M

Now that the dust has settled, was GW wrong for adding a few women Custodes and retconning that they had always been present?

>>41099425 (OP)
Whatever fascist movement figures out "Stick with me and conquer [BLANK] and you'll get free estrogen for life! Service guarantees gender healthcare." shit is running away with it, left will refuse to go hard on them and the right can't say no to manpower and the ones who do will suffer accidents

>>41102692
What did they say?

>>41099425 (OP)
If trannies got their own nation they'd have a chaser in charge. In fact the whole power structure would be chasers.

>>41103542
total cissoid annihilation is a necessity to guarantee the safety and prosperity of trannies

>>41102743
>I'll just say this. That we're working with a lot of mindbroken and retarded useless people. Less so in the Homosexual camp, but still. I think there should be some ideological effort to not only make people aware of these realities but also to turn them into functioning human beings who can do whatever must be done. Like if you're over the age of 25 it's time to wrap it up and start getting serious. I wish I could impress that on people more.
Yeah i wish but we usually suffer the worst of the abuse this world has to throw at people. We're a scapegoat even before we know it ourselves. You might not transition for a while, but everyone knows, and they'll treat you horribly in consequence.
>>41102763
Fuck family, fuck community. All abusers. All of them. Or they'd rather turn a blind eye to abuse. The nuclear family is a rape machine. Turns children into lost souls. Fuck em.
>>41102881
Not American
>>41102898
Thing is caring won't ever make them care about us anyway. I don't get how trannies can be for landback specifically or Indigenous rights or independence movements etc like just move somewhere you have the best chance you have no allegiance you won't inherit the earth. We are the perpetual Jews isall.

>>41103463
Very based message, you get what im saying and you're definitely right. We're so small and we have so much energy against us and we don't even believe ourselves worth it to put ourselves first...
>>41103496
Read the msg just above you.
>>41103513
Every time we care about ourselves we are gross. No one says that to any other minority, it's perfect okay for cis women to only be feminists, for black people to only be into black liberation... but us? We don't even deserve to care about ourselves.
This is the saddest thing isn't it.
>>41103542
Yeah idk I am deeply antirevolutionary nowadays - not that a revolution would ever happen but they'd so throw us by the wayside for being bourgeois or infiltrators or whatever.

>>41104071
>Every time we care about ourselves we are gross. No one says that to any other minority, i
Yes they absolutely do. Uncle Tom was so despised as a character he became a turn of phrase to depict pick mes who will sell out every moral for their own personal safety. People are mad at jews who are standing by Isreal conducting its genocide.

People, or should I say leftists, with actual morals about equality, egalitarianism and social progressivism who are working for YOUR benefit are not like you, who will sell out everyone else to save your own hide. And hilariously enough, you cant even. No one wants you, except the people you proudly declare you would betray if they sided with you.

Black liberation types dont think hispanics should be jailed, feminists dont think men should be homeless, and lgbt activists dont think straight marriage should be outlawed.

You are scum.

>>41103542
Well you said it pretty well. But the direction I went in was more that I truly, actually don't matter. I'd die for whatever cause. More selfishly, I'd be able to tolerate forced detrans if it made me a martyr even in the slightest. The thought of suffering for some kind of glory draws me in.
Even if that glory isn't real, even if it's truly meaningless and ultimately I'm just some poor dead schmuck, I don't want to just die. I want to be killed by someone who opposes me, and is categorically wrong for it.
Only thing that sucks about depooning as torture is that when starved and deprived of medication you are forced to waste away into something much weaker compared to a cismale with similar base stats. But this could be said for anyone whose medical condition requires some routine treatment.

>>41104174
>Black liberation types dont think hispanics should be jailed, feminists dont think men should be homeless, and lgbt activists dont think straight marriage should be outlawed.
What the fuck are you talking about.
Although straight marriage being illegal would be rad.

>You are scum.
Thanks for proving my point. Tranny actually thinks she's worth sth? She's scum.
>>41104178
Cucked af. Detrans is death. If you die it's over no glory you're just a corpse. Religious thinking of which revolutionary thought is a part of with its heroes is made to use us and consume us.

>>41104174
>Uncle Tom was so despised as a character he became a turn of phrase to depict pick mes who will sell out every moral for their own personal safety.
He became despised because he sold out his own how is that in any way related.

>>41104196
Maybe dying is cucked. What I'm saying is that I'd accept death in its entirety, you moron, and that is even without my little delusional fantasy of glory clouding my judgment. I would rather be killed a revolutionary than die in hiding. Don't have to repeat what I already said back to me but I guess you're just so fucking fat that your plump little face rolls can't stop squeezing your eyes shut and maybe it really isn't your fault reading is so difficult :'-(

>>41104290
Go home tankiepooner, you're posting cringe and your T is making you hormonal

>>41104174
If you wanna go with the Uncle Tom metaphor wouldn't you want trannies to put themselves first (in a world that puts us last) AND not abandon their fellow trannies when they start to do better?

Whether or not trannies advocate for other minority groups really doesn't make a dent on how those groups are treated anyway, so I genuinely don't understand why a community that is plagued by trauma, mental illness, lack of healthcare and homelessness, shouldn't primarily look in to take care of each other.

Yeah fuck politics lol I'm done being roped into causes that provide next to no benefit outside of my life. It's all theatrics anyways to distract you from building networks independent of the system anyways.

>>41099648
We all know where transylvania is really fated to develop Nona

>>41104304
>tankie
sure...

>>41099425 (OP)

im not trans but I feel like thats a reason alot of trans ppl engage with the right. A lot of BAP people are trans. I think its both ways.
Black ppl shouldnt of been grouped with you guys and you guys shouldnt be grouped with them.
As long as you agree they shouldnt read books to the kids and push surgery on kids under 18 then you basically are a rightoid.
You guys are way more chill than i expected desu. its /b that gives it all a bad rep and theyre usually alt right.

>>41099425 (OP)
Three letter agent glow so bright

>>41104334
> shouldnt read books to the kids and push surgery on kids under 18 then you basically are a rightoid
That's fags on the book reading shit, but sure as long as rightoids turn on the radfems.

>>41104366
>you should care about other minorites or you're CIA n-word
Uh

>>41104334
Drag queen story hours is mostly homosexual cis men that think it's fun and quirky to dress up like gigahons with glitterbeards, not trannies. Also they're just reading children's books, like no actual harm was caused to any kids.
Surgeries under 18 have always been extremely rare and something a lot of trannies are willing yo compromise on (cos it never happened that much to begin with), but hormone access and puberty blockers are something I will argue you should have access to while under 18.
If you have a problem with pointless childhood surgeries, you should go after the widespread circumcision of baby boys.

>>41104464
Surgery before 18 is actually kind of ineffective medically. Vaginaplasty is more effective with a fully developed pp and mastectomy can fail to get all the tissue on developing breasts. But kids should hardly be going on puberty blockers at all. Theres no reason not to start test / estrogen at 12 - 13 years old, basically when puberty starts based on family history. Earlier puberties than that are usually delayed with puberty blockers in cis children. Trans children shouldnt be denied the same healthcare as cis children because christcucks want us all dead.

REAL
i have nothing else to say except i know exactly how u feel nona
also get a load of all these chuds lol, they sure love the sound of their own voice

>>41104559
>also get a load of all these chuds lol, they sure love the sound of their own voice
It's unreal like they can't stfu for one second
Hope you're doing well nona this world is harsh

>>41099425 (OP)
why are you posting a gif depicting cis female tho?

>>41099452
>>41099515
I will never trust another tranny again. You backstab too much.

>>41099475
yeah, the worst part about trying to be the best person you can be, is that if you succeed, other people will be worse to you than you are to them.
its just how life works.
you don't stop trying to be kind and understanding because other people have. you can be disappointed all you want, but at the end of the day, you suck it up and keep those feelings to yourself. because being whiny and mean to others doesn't make them help you. and you need all the help you can get in this life.
so learn to smile and take it. learn to be strong because you can't count on anyone else to be better.

>>41104847
It's a meme

You are wrong about the idea that trannies can look after eachother. It's been tried before and it fails every time like that tranny unicorn ranch. Trannies get abused by other trannies because they fall into this logical trap where they think cis peoppe cant be trusted, but trannies can be. The true blackpill is no one can be trusted. Not even yourself.

>>41104905
>you don't stop trying to be kind and understanding because other people have. you can be disappointed all you want, but at the end of the day, you suck it up and keep those feelings to yourself
Why?
>because being whiny and mean to others doesn't make them help you. and you need all the help you can get in this life.
Rolling over and taking it quietly doesn't make people help you

>>41099544
intersectionality is great, but other people don't actually want to be associated with us

>>41104942
Oh i know. I've been raped by a tranny and my community and friends all sided with the rapist.
But i am a tranny so my rights still matter to me.

>>41105170
Trans rights are a red herring that lead back to breaking your back for ingrateful others. Pure individualism is the only rational response right now. I support hrt for myself. I dom't care about minors becaise I'm not a minor and I don't care about having it on medicaid because I'm not on medicaid. I'm diy so the only thing I care about is having diy access.

>>41105170
nta but i'm sorry to hear that nona, from the bottom of my heart
i've had a similar experience
there are too many predators who have attached themselves to our community, who know how to use the rhetoric to their advantage, and our community all too often sides with bad actors
sometimes i want to hate the trans community even if i know its counterproductive
i mean the only reason i don't is cuz i know there's girls like u out there
we're the ones that the community is *supposed* to look out for, never forget...

>>41105247
>we're the ones that the community is *supposed* to look out for,
I don't owe you anything.

>>41105251
good for u?

>>41105257
Are you confused or something

>>41105261
are u? u seem to be having some kind of knee jerk reaction to my post that doesn't seem all that relevant to the actual content of what I said

>>41105265
You implied that I'm supposed to look out for you. I'm letting you know that I have no such obligation.

>>41105268
No, I said the trans community is supposed to look out for ppl like us
>I'm letting you know that I have no such obligation
thank u for ur feedback we'll take that into consideration

>>41105274
Well as a member of the trans community I don't see any reason why I should care

>>41105280
and u don't have to! nobody is telling u what to do
hope that helps

>>41105285
It doesn't help, hope that helps

>>41105251
axiomatically speaking, that's a disasterous idea, if nobody owes eachother anything there's no basis for society or connection, there is only loneliness

>>41099425 (OP)
>I'd gladly sell out every single one of cissies to make one tranny safe.
we know

>>41105251
Even if you feel like that, I think there should be people looking out for the interests of people like you. It's a complete disaster that there are so many trannies that feel this disappointed and hurt by people who claimed to be on their side, that they reject any idea of solidarity.

>>41105230
I don't want to be that jaded. I feel like I already am and it's horrible.
>>41105247
Sorry you had a similar experience nona :(
Yeah. I don't know, I feel like my opinions on trans ppl are kinda transphobic often? Like I am not trutrans or anything anymore but like there are people who identify as trans who feel spiritually to be men to be if that makes sense. There's no deep logic or anything just a feeling - some people just feel wrong. Dangerous. Every time I tried to go past those alarms telling myself it's just my trauma talking I've gotten punished for it.
But we're the saddest trannies, the ones that get abused raped left on the sidewalk. We cry upon concrete and our dreams stop to matter, half-persons.
I want all my loser trannies who keep getting fucked by life to be happy.

>>41105636
>I don't want to be that jaded. I feel like I already am and it's horrible.
Not my problem

>>41105496
Sympathy is just bait. I know that no help is coming and I can only rely on myself. It's nice to have that fact be clear without empty promises or manipulations.

>>41103463
>0.1%
They're 1% these days, retard. Why do you keep lying about the demographics in every thread

Leftists want to import infinity violent muslim and african savages into one of the few places on earth that is safe for us to live in.

>>41105721
I'll admit I don't really know the numbers, but sure let's say it's 1%, what changes about my argument?
Also does that number differentiate between trannies that are on hrt or not, repping or not, dysphoric or not..

>>41104312
amen, you've got a good head on your shoulders

>>41105878
kinda seems like the white christians are just as if not more intent on making our lives unlivable

>>41099425 (OP)
understandable. it is insane to see all of these headlines and see that no one but our own people has anything to say against it. in my perfect world, all trans people are moved to a single part of the world and the cis get to have their lives free of us, and vice versa.
anyway picrel is my number one transition goal i want nothing more than to look like her

>>41099651
TRVTH FVCKING NVKE

>>41099425 (OP)
im still left leaning but if a right party supports tranny more somehow i would instantly support it like a single issue voter
sadly this will never happen

>>41104474
Maybe just stop hating men, Anon. Proudly undergo your male puberty and become a man as nature intended rather than choosing to act like a child and deny reality and then bitch about it when people treat you like a freak. Its not complicated.

>>41099425 (OP)
i think what gets me is knowing that we are going under the bus no matter what, we are just a means to an end, whether it be a scapegoat for the right or a bludgeon for the left we are heading to the same fate. i try not to be a doomer but i look at the world around me and see years of progress going down the drain and "allies" turning their backs on us, it's hard not to get demoralized. it truly feels like we are on our own

>>41099425 (OP)
>former leftist tranny
>look inside
>she was a milquetoast social democrat feminist
More proof that only the immortal dialectics produce committed leftists

>>41099425 (OP)
Because you're not marginalized at all. If you didn't troon out, you would be doing fine.
You're movement is entire based on fetish.
And you only hijakced other movements like LGB for your own selfish agenda.
TERFs were right.

>>41105683
Ok then don't (you ) me
>>41106928
Literally no one. Radio silence. But look! Kimmel lost his job! U.kraine! G.aza! IC.E!
>>41106968
Yeah basically

>>41107106
Yeah I got blac kpilled truly reading Swedish mar xists (hence where I live) opinions on que er people. I'm done.
>>41107231
Fun thing is the more I read marxi sts (and i don't mean social media, I mean literature), the more I hate you. When I'd just read the m anifest I even identified as a marxist kek so cringe. I'm done with you monsters. You are fash obsessed by work and productivity and you don't care about humans just that stuff gets produced "fairly."
>>41107469
Fuck off chu.dd ie

Doing weird formatting cuz spam filter gods are annoying today

>>41107648
>You are fash obsessed by work and productivity and you don't care about humans just that stuff gets produced "fairly."
The absolute state of Swedish Marxism lmfao, not surprising tbqh. Thankfully AmeriKKKan marxism is not like this, I'd probably flee the country if so.

>>41107231
I do hate Chomsky but as someone taking multiple linguistics courses for my degree path he was a good linguist. Very outdated now though. I have no idea why anyone cares about him politically.

That said, I'm anti authoritarianism and very pro education and beaurocracy. The USSR was anti gay, anti intellectual and anti prosperity with an oligarchic structure that produced more misery and class disparity at the time than capitalism did. Dressing up the same problem with a leftist skin is not my goal as an activist or a human, but real change that improves the freedoms and quality of life of our species.