Thread 41304464

17 year old takes own life due to NHS waiting times in the UK

>>41304464 (OP)
Arrest the parents for child abuse. If he was confined to an asylum to get some real help, he would still be alive.

>>41304464 (OP)
>i will literally kill myself if i can't get my nhs approved 2mg progynova no blocker hondose instead of just DIYing
?

>>41304641
Get a job retard.

>>41304464 (OP)
no way she didnt consider DIYing

>>41304664
theyre bluepills nona they dont know

the weak get culled
the strong survive

>>41304664
>reddithon groomers say kids will kill themselves over thing
>thing happens
>kids kill themselves because reddithon groomers planted the idea in their head that one thing leads to the other
genuinely though. 17 yos didn’t kill themselves 100 years ago, gender dysphoria or not.

>>41304757
reddithon groomers must be stopped

>>41304721
The strong have a duty to protect the weak. /pol/ seems to forget that, sometimes. We're all in this together.

>>41304664
Why does everyone think diy is easily accessible for minors?

>>41304766
the weak should become strong

>>41304641
this
fuck youngshits

there will always be people taking their lives for idiotic reasons, if it wasn’t this it would have been something else

>>41304757
I bet they did there's just very little records of it happening

>>41304757
>>41304874
>17 yos didn’t kill themselves 100 years ago
It's a fucking plot point in goddamn Romeo and Juliette. What more evidence do you want?

>>41304815
They never will, but there's a natural order to things. It's why we have a biological impulse to protect women and children. Not everyone can be strong, sometimes, weak people need strong people to stay alive.

>>41304901
That’s a work of fiction anonn

>>41304983
It's fucking Shakespeare, anon. You think he just went out there and, like, made shit up?
The same dude who put a real witch's curse in Macbeth and got the play banned almost immediately.

>>41304922
no your order is a lie and exists to trick weak people into trusting the strong, instead of becoming strong themselves

>>41305005
>fucking Shakespeare, anon. You think he just went out there and, like, made shit up?

>>41304757
>its never my fault
Hmm, isnt that the thing you accuse trannies of? Interesting

>>41305161
Who are you talking to? Your conservative imaginary friend?

>>41304757
Thomas Chatterton begs to differ, sire . .

>>41304757
>17 yos didn’t kill themselves 100 years ago
lmao

>>41305237
Calm yo tits Graham Hancock

40% of NHS is privatized. blame the free market.

This board is a horrible one. The terfs run it

>>41304721
the living envy the dead

>>41304686
A lot of trans people in the UK don't know DIY is a thing or think it's much harder to get than it is, teens doubly so
Don't underestimate how hope and acting of your own will are trained out of people from childhood in this culture

just one of well over a dozen suicides on the youth waitlist since the keira bell case compared to 1 in the 7 years before
they don't care, they're glad to wash their hands of us

>>41304464 (OP)
>17 year old takes own life due to NHS waiting times in the UK
Ok

>>41308195
Sad truth, they want more deaths. They smile with glee at this news

>>41304757
Darwin Awards

>>41308213
Hons thirst for blood the most. Hon acceptance is a road paved with the flesh of teenage passoids

>>41304464 (OP)
It's a coroner so he's probably talking about something medical, like if the stomach was pumped out in time.

>>41308587
kek you're probably right

>>41308356
Erm

>>41304757
high mortality rates and the occasional war probably did so I guess you're right

>>41304464 (OP)
the infinite crushing wheel of the nhs which grinds teenagers lives into dust

i begged for hrt from the NHS, they refused to give me even a gender dysphoria diagnosis and refused to let me transition. eventually they took me off diy when they sectioned me. i didn't kill myself in the hospital but tried to several times. maybe i would have been in the news instead of her. this happened to me in 2019.

maybe if i had killed myself, if i had made a big enough scene out of it, things would have changed and this wouldn't keep happening

>>41304464 (OP)
>tranny being a tranny

>>41304464 (OP)
Sounds less like a fix problem and more like a dope problem.

>>41304464 (OP)
Aren't the wait times due to the migrants infesting britainistan?

>>41304464 (OP)
didnt an NHS executive or something die waiting for a surgery

>>41310866
the country is rapidly becoming too poor to sustain socialized healthcare
doctors are leaving the country because they're being overworked and underpaid
which leads to the remaining doctors being even more overworked, and wait times increasing

>>41310866
no its been privatized by thacher and every government after.

>>41310866
no, the nhs has a general policy that specialist care waitlists can't be longer than 18 weeks. this is getting tough because of NHS problems. GIC waitlists are like 500 weeks now. it's entirely a transphobia problem

>>41310866
doctors and medical staff in general are disproportionately immigrants so that is literally the opposite of the case

>>41304721
and the amerimutt pays for insulin

>>41310971
you're paying for it too

>>41310866
we have 2/3rds the average wage of developed european nations like france and germany
we have a massive elderly population who own all the assets and impose a massive tax burden by expensive EoL care, triple locked state pensions, and an utter refusal to allow the young even the most tentative of steps out of the dirt if it costs them so much as a penny of their massive generational wealth
15 years of austerity police and 25 years of booming graduate numbers means that economic prospects for basically everyone are in the gutter
not a penny has been spent on infrastructure since margret thatcher took office and now our drinking water is polluted with faeces in some places
so no, its not the migrant population at all

>>41310974
actually no, im not

>>41308187
This is true, it was only once I came here when I was 17 that I found out that it was a thing. I started testosterone at 17, but I wish I didn't waste the three years of my life I spent on the NHS wait-list. It made me feel hopeless.

Yay free health care

>>41310866
the nhs doesn't care about you unless you're over 45

>>41311487
you mean they start to care once you stop asking them?

>>41311487
45 is too young to make a decision on your gender, the British state demands you wait till 65!

>>41304464 (OP)
Trannies will literally kill themselves over a minor inconvenience. Omega lol with kek XD.

>>41304757
I'm sure some did, but there is definitely a social aspect to it
like I know that being here and not being here can be a big difference if you're feeling vulnerable

Transphobes are murderers

Transtrenders are murderers.

>>41304771
>minors
Age of majority is 16 in the UK.

>>41304901
Romeo and Juliet is
* not 100 years old
* made up
* not about a 17-year-old killing himself because he can't get estrogen on the Veronese government's dime

R&J would be a good argument to use against someone claiming that Epstein was a product of our specific culture and teenage pussy isn't a force strong enough to make men throw away social position, wealth, honor and life itself. In this context it's worthless.

>>41309522
Nah they only got more transphobic after Brianna Ghey, it wouldn't have changed a thing

>>41311231
We need to get DIY into the hands of as many trans teens as possible, I've helped some but we need more coverage

>>41304464 (OP)
Wait times of 224 years at some clinics

When can we say that trans health care is simply banned for the majority of people?

>>41314506
"Trans health care" is not a real thing.

>>41304464 (OP)
Another bongwin

>>41314499
>Nah they only got more transphobic after Brianna Ghey, it wouldn't have changed a thing
This lmao, even her mom decided to become an anti-tranty grifterino. We live in hell

>>41314506
Cosmetic surgeries aren't a priority.
Palestine and healthcare staff doing tiktoks are.

>>41304464 (OP)
>nhs wait times maim and torture and kill god knows how many people per year
>HA AT LEAST WE HAVE HEALTHCARE* TAKE THAT BLUMPF
>nhs wait times make 1 (one) tranny kill himself
>stop the press!

* The thing no one mentioned or cared about before 2016.

>>41304464 (OP)
HONestly shouldnt have to wait more than 2-4 weeks.
and HONestly that was dumb of them, they can literally mcwage and buy years of hrt with 1 paycheck.
then when they need to refill, just mcwage for another week.

and then by then just sell socks, panties, lewds, or sexo and have guys pay for everything

>>41309522
Yeah its fucking shit. England is evil. I told them i was a girl and they put me on schizophrenia medication, and i transitioned anyway, and got brain damage from the meds

Glad you didnt sui, it wouldnt have changed a thing, i know people who have committed suicide, cis and trans, England has a very serious suicide epidemic, living here is a form of torture. We are being tortured

>>41304464 (OP)
Natural selection

>>41310866
No, trans healthcare wait times are literally political. Nothing to do with immigration policy

A cis woman or cis man can go to their GP, ask for hrt, and the doctor writes them a prescription, which the patient then takes to their local pharmacy the same day. For trans people they make us wait 15 years.

Its the exact same medication

>>41304464 (OP)
stuff like this is why many people go to the US or mexico for treatment.

>>41312170
Pension age is now 75, so thats 10 years of transition permitted until we die

The government is too generous

>>41316358
>i grieved for my son twice, the day he died and the day he transitioned

- Esther Ghey

>>41318214
Thailand is over the counter and FREE.

British men are the most disgusting men, they'll roam the streets looking for trans people to attack, rape them in prison then travel to thailand to go rape exploited trans people there, then demand the british govt takes away our healthcare in Britain.

Never even speak to a british person, if they vote Reform, spit in their face

>>41318242
are you sure those are the "true" British or the immigrants? Tho ive heard the muslim majority might try to increase the wait or completely deny HRT to anyone with trans ideas if they fully get into power.

>>41318354
Its everyone here anon. Are you really trying to say white british people are indifferent about trans people, when there was a far right march 2 weeks ago, and 150, 000 people chanted they will kill trans people

>>41304757
>17 yos didn't kill themselves 100 years ago
are you fucking retarded? people having been killing themselves for forever, especially 17yos because they are too stupid to know any better

>>41309522
>>41318202
Holy hell, were you off DIY for long? And are you doing okay now?? Please put this somewhere rather than an anonymous imageboard, the crimes of NHS must be exposed

>>41318442
I was 13, impossible for me to DIY. My life was fucked, still is but at least i can be an adult now.

Anon, i dont think anyone would give a fuck about us, they want us dead, god knows what will happen if they make DOY illegal

>>41318459
Cataloguing their crimes is a good first step. They have names, positions, and it would come in handy when the culture war tide turns (it always does) and it'll be time to bring them to justice.

>>41318442
Taking you off unprescribed prescription drugs is something they do to mental patients in basically every country

>>41318509
They also take you off prescribed HRT in the UK, whats your point

>>41304464 (OP)
ive heard the wait times are insane for anything including simple things like getting a tooth pulled.

>>41318459
its probably only a matter of time till it become illegal, and they will do it because they will claim it's a health and safety issue, and classify it as a schedule 4 substance if they havent already.

>>41318442
i was off diy for long, yes. until i was an adult. i was force medicated when i was sectioned and got ptsd. i became scared of medicine so it took years for me to recover and restart estrogen. i wish i could have recovered when i was still a teenager.

i'm doing very bad now. it ruined my life

>>41318509
i begged them for estrogen for three years. taking diy off me was the last straw

>>41318805
fuuuuck, so you didn't restart because you were scared and got wrecked by puberty? why did they section you? you can still put this story in the news, contact queer media, activists, document it please

>>41304464 (OP)
I hope all the burger libshits who want single payer will read this :)

>>41318951
they sectioned me because, after my diy got taken off me for the third or so time, i got so catatonically depressed i didnt show up to school for two weeks.

i was too traumatised to take back control of my life. i didn't have hobbies, possessions, i didn't do anything really until i left home. and when i thought about buying estrogen i got the OCD/PTSD forced medication fears. i also felt that my life was over - all of my dreams and desires were crushed, i lost any sense of urgency that i needed to transition to prepare for the rest of my life, because i felt like i had no life left to prepare for. it was a very very bad period. it's been 7 years and i'm just, JUST starting to recover mentally.

and yes i got turbo raped by puberty. i don't know if i can ever pass. i don't think i can. i don't really have a life and can't show up to college over dysphoria. i waited after i turned 18 too because the mental illness was still so bad. i wasn't repping, i desperately wanted to be a woman and start hrt, i emailed clinics in the country i moved to (Canada) but didn't get appointments and blood tests sorted out for years. i was just totally non-functional. full psychic disintegration.

and i can't just tell the news, what is there to say? "NHS followed standard procedures with a teenager who tried to buy illegal drugs". no one gives a shit. 10000 comments on the news article "Fuck that retard!!". i used to be a queer activist when i was on hrt as a teenager but now i don't look like a woman i can't do it anymore.

>>41319178
Centralised healthcare is a mistake. You need a healthy balance, ie gov providing or subsidising the costs from private practices.

>>41318442
>>41309522
if I ever get sectioned im making a shiv

>>41319809
If you ever make a shiv you're getting sectioned