Thread 41304636

They used to just ignore us. What changed?

https://www.reddit.com/r/transmaxxing/comments/1o21qbh/leftwing_feminists_have_started_to_attack/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPKCc9xA1M0

>>41304636 (OP)
>Plebbit space
>Plebbit discourse
>Plebbit politics
Diagnostic?
GO BACK TO PLEBBIT

>it's a hate movement to try to look like us
tgtow when

>>41304865
forever and always
GYAXX

>feminists make the world more misandrist normalize the hate
>get mad when men try to flee it because um we need you to suffer properly

>>41305429
It fuels transphobia. It promotes the idea that this is a choice rather than a condition people have, and directly ties it to incels.
Personally I think there's probably legitimate overlap. Big shock! Gender dysphoria might manifest as an impairment in one or more major life activities, like interacting with others. Like always incels are just externalizing an internal problems, but transmaxxers might be accidentally stumbling onto their answer.
But seeing people talk about trooning as basically a character reroll is kind of an optics nuke.

>>41304853
Is plebbit a play on plebeian

>>41305479
calling it alt right is hysterical though

>>41304636 (OP)
Get off this board, you are not welcome here.

>>41304636 (OP)
>Guy trying to ruin trans optics thinks he's welcome on /lgbt/
Can someone please ban this guy and his trip?

>>41304636 (OP)
Normies need to learn to stop believing everything they read on the internet

>>41304636 (OP)
israel killed charlie

>>41305479

Transitioning is a choice even in cases where someone has gender dysphoria.

Previously that choice wasn't even available to begin with. It's only possible now thanks to basic advancements in medicine (current technology is still rather limited unfortunately).

What really matters is that the transition is actually beneficial.

Nothing wrong with expanding the usage of a medical treatment if you find new use-cases for it (Semaglutide was originally for diabetes for example).

Transitioning into a hon to look more sexually intimidating to women is not a bad idea

>>41307785

Trans optics is ruined already by being doing a far worse job at it than the transmaxxing leadership. We are the ones having to sort out the mess caused by bad activists on the left (almost all compromised by gender critical feminism).

>>41307744
Liberals are pretty good about turning literally everything into an alt-right conspiracy.

>>41304636 (OP)
lol I checked that article and it's basically just
>one guy on twitter whose account no longer exists said that charlie kirk's shooter's gf was a transmaxxer
yeah it's really important that we get articles written about literally every stupid post on twitter that totally don't contribute to the invalidation of trans people. Like they really don't see that making "transmaxxing" into a boogeyman is literally just encouraging the same division and hate towards trans people that they're complaining about?
of course the article is written by a "transmasculine" cissex journalist who identifies as an inca shaman.

>>41307808
Sure. And we didn't used to have insulin and if you had type 1 diabetes you just died. Technically taking insulin is a choice.
You can ignore type 2 diabetes too if you want but it won't ignore you. Same with gender dysphoria.
I believe in medical autonomy. Transmaxxing must remain legal for the full freedom of even old-school transsexuals.

How is looking like a woman alt-right? That's retarded to connect the two. The right hates trannies.

>>41307826
HAHAHAHAHAHA "not bad for optics" my ASS
Shut the fuck up you brain-poisoned mega repper
You're not welcome here, and I *know* you've been told that anytime you post here

>>41304636 (OP)
isn't this the crackpot that says to try and give yourself gender dysphoria by watching hentai?

>>41307917
whoa another british news organization totally not trying to spread hate against trans people!
an actual tranny would never enjoy having a feminine body or want to have sex with men!
how dare this stupid moid take estrogen and wear a dress, everyone knows that the real non-transmaxxing trannies are us nonbinary women with pronouns!

>>41307917

That was edited to make sammy look bad obviously (partly sammys fault fur trusting ben zand though). The transmaxxing leadership wasn't involved in that case.

https://vintologi.com/threads/channel-4-uk-documentary-on-transmaxxing.1598/

I did talk to his camera man and afterwards he didn't want me to publish it after he found out it was recorded.

>>41307945
Oh God, I picked the wrong 1 of the 10,000 hit pieces that have been written on your stupid bullshit! What am I to do?
Also, trip on when posting, so we can you can remind you to get off this board :)

>>41307926

AGP isn't gender dysphoria so no.

>>41307926
it is
I remember someone posted this screenshot of his manifesto last time he posted here

>>41307971
The chief academic proponent of AGP disagrees with you
AGP is only stupid because cis women have it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5rqNyulfsQ

>>41304636 (OP)
I don't know, going trans for the "benefits" seems way too much work for the returns

>>41307969
>Also, trip on when posting, so we can you can remind you to get off this board :)
you don't know me
transmaxxing is a meme, it's a subreddit with 5k users who are unconsciously dysphoric and transitioning over it. It's no different from hrt femboys. Any man who willing takes estrogen and transitions is trans, and the people who deny it are either delusional or transphobic themselves.
Transmaxxing is in no way toxic or incel, and it's especially not a trend. Despite that, apparently we need our wonderfully helpful cis journalist allies to broadcast about all these gross incels transitioning. Something something journalism's sacred duty.
The real transmaxxing is cis women with pronouns. But they'll never call out that in a million years, because apparently being trans is when you say "i'm trans", and not like when you do stupid shit like actually transition and live as the opposite sex. That's for incels.

>>41308008

AGP is fairly common so no it doesn't count.

https://aella.substack.com/p/everyone-has-autogynephilia

>>41304636 (OP)
Oh my God, it's the insane schizoposting guy who talks about like reincarnation and eugenics and shit
https://vintologi.com/threads/simple-introduction-to-vintologi.10/

>>41308045
Sure but doesn't chemically castrating yourself about it and growing tits and an ass on purpose mean anything to you?
And for social benefits? What benefit? I didn't even make it 3 years without getting SA'd bad enough to be prescribed PEP about it.
I guess people open doors for me now. That's kinda nice.

>>41305564
It's Pleb + Reddit fyk o algo doe

What happened is the Kirk shooter's girlfriend is a libertarian. This attracted a lot of true crime fans and so the media then covered it.
https://bsky.app/profile/sexabolition.blog/post/3lz37yhppn22f

>>41308045
never seen this before, i'm a bit surprised, but it makes sense.
>everyone is autophilic except trans people who are auto-birthsex-phobic (that is, mtfs are autoandrophobic and ftms are autogynephobic)
>ftms are the only group who find simply existing as a gender (in their case, male) in a non sexual context to be arousing
so, trans are motivated by gender dysphoria (mtf autoandrophobia, ftm autogynephobia), not autophilia, however they do have autophilia, but so do cis people.

this makes sense to me

>>41308433

Was that even a girlfriend?

Wasn't it just a furry?

>>41308742
Candace Owen's revealed photos of him cuddling with her and her calling him her boyfriend. Trump himself revealed he had a trans girlfriend (note Trump didn't misgender her). At a push you can call them a femboy. Their reddit shows they were on hrt.

>>41307795
talking about the important stuff

Ive been single for five years. Im throwing in the towel and transmaxxing

>>41305429
>misandry
lol

>>41311061
queef it out, poonah
get that misogyny uncorked out of your vulva

>>41310984
five years try 30.5/31 years of my life have been single, fucking amateur

>>41304636 (OP)
Ever since America adopted the “flooding the zone” political tactic from Russia everything’s gone to shit

>>41308021
>Any man who willing takes estrogen and transitions is trans, and the people who deny it are either delusional or transphobic themselves.
Not true. Lots of men are just perverted and stupid

>>41304636 (OP)
people want an inroad to terfism
thats all it is, all pretense to optics is bs and if it wasnt for transmaxxing theyd find something else
transmaxxing is literally an incel deradicalisation pipeline

ew. why would you transition if you arent a tranny? or maybe this is an excuse for people who are dysphoric but won't admit it to themselves to transition. either way, at least don't claim to be a tranny if you're not one. like dress how you want and take whatever hrt you want and use whatever pronouns you want, but if you aren't trans you aren't trans.

>>41311484
>ew. why would you transition if you arent a tranny?

Because it's either that or get literally nothing

>>41311494
>Because it's either that or get literally nothing
just don't be the type of loser who transitions to get cooch and the cooch will come to you.

>>41311527
most of these wind up being transbians or being into men. i once knew a tranny of that sort who had gross men paying to huff her feet and this was a step up in life for her. i cant even hate desu, objectively speaking trooning out is a good idea if youre an undesireable male.

>>41311536
truthfully i just don't like it, as a tranny. it might be irrational or gatekeepy, but i dislike the idea that someone would transition without suffering in the way i've suffered. it feels mildly insulting.

>>41304636 (OP)
Transmaxxing is pathetic and misogynistic
>t.srs doll

>>41311558
i know what you mean but like, every single one of these is one more number and god do we fucking need numbers for safety right now. even if theyre jeeps, even if theyre spergs, every extra tranny made is one more person whos existence keeps their family and friends from wanting us to suffer.

>>41311558
A cis woman could say the same thing about you.

>>41311574
i suffer more than the average cis woman does. not that you'd know, given that you aren't dysphoric.

>>41311586
>i suffer more than the average cis woman does. not that you'd know, given that you aren't dysphoric.
holy edge

>>41311591
that wasn't even my intention, it's just that that's the only way you'd make that statement.

>>41311558
Incels suffer though

Relvent video : https://youtu.be/OIr4VLsyi0M?si=-1STK45-dRnW8PlO

https://www.tiktok.com/search?q=transmaxxing&

You've gone mainstream Vint.

>>41304636 (OP)
transmaxxing isnt being trans its when incels go to the extreme of purposefully "transitioning" with the goal of raping women. its literally the worst case scenario faketrans gigarapehons that fuel 90% of current transphobia. because unfortunately there are some people that genuinely do this.

>>41307969
>Experts weigh in on how it impacts trans people
negatively

>>41311749
What? Why would being trans help with rape?

>>41311768
there was a viral tiktok going around recently where this woman was talking about a former coworker she had who was transmaxxing and they would invite female coworkers to their home for "girl sleepovers" to "teach them about hair and makeup" to help with their "transition" and once they got the women alone they raped them

>>41311652
>Incels suffer though
i can't get laid either. the tranny thing is much worse.

>>41311775
I remember during covid their were viral tiktoks about farmers forced to destroy their crops

>>41311775
i also believe everything ive ever heard on shortform video

>>41304636 (OP)
It's a explicitly eugenicist idea with lots of weird essentialist ideas, so yeah.
>>41305479
>Personally I think there's probably legitimate overlap. Big shock! Gender dysphoria might manifest as an impairment in one or more major life activities, like interacting with others. Like always incels are just externalizing an internal problems, but transmaxxers might be accidentally stumbling onto their answer.
Certainly also agree with this though.

>>41311749

That wouldn't be transmaxxing since ending up in jail wouldn't be an improvement.

>>41308021
>The real transmaxxing is cis women with pronouns. But they'll never call out that in a million years, because apparently being trans is when you say "i'm trans", and not like when you do stupid shit like actually transition and live as the opposite sex. That's for incels.

>>41312437

Pushing incels to transition isn't really about eugenics since those incels generally had very low chance of reproducing to begin with. Having them transition will not have much of an impact.

But it can enable a more unequal dating market since due to it providing an outlet for the excess males (there are alternative solutions though such as having men die in wars).

>>41312475
Are you familiar with the concept of the unemployment rate actually being a target and not a gauge? The theory that if enough of a surplus at the absolute bottom are desperate enough for money, that there will then always be a supply of people willing to do even the worst jobs in the world just to survive?
I think something similar happens with the dating world and how women settle down with betabucks providers once they swallow the hard pill that chad won't actually marry them. That if there's enough of a surplus of "unemployed" ie. undated men desperate for any woman no matter how overweight and mentally ill at the bottom of society then there will then also be a guaranteed safety net for undesirable women to fall into and still be able to secure their free ride that being born with a pussy promised them.

>>41308021
This is so obviously true, I don't even understand how anons could interpret things any other way

>>41304636 (OP)
>it focuses on passing!!

What. Isn’t that the point of transitioning??? God people are dumb.

>>41313678

There are people who transition even though they will never be able to pass.

Something i have a very hard time recommending though, i would never do that myself at least.

>>41307795
Most likely.

I am transitioning out of jealousy of women. how do i get rid of my incely thoughts?

>>41314033
I get it if it might at least improve dysphoria but it's not for the faint of heart. I guess you could call it transminning because it will almost certainly hurt your social status.
I kinda see it as proof dysphoria is real desu. Why would you stick with something that actively hurts you if there wasn't a substantial benefit trading off against it?

>>41314033
>There are people who transition even though they will never be able to pass.
i manmode to cope

>>41308021
They're not unconscious. They're simply failed men who swallowed your bullshit and were rejected by you for listening to it you. You tricked them and now they're using the bullshit you left them with to benefit their own lives the only way they know how. It's your programing jury rigged onto empty shells.

>>41311527
Cooch doesn't come to you. You have to go get it. The passive disposition in men means they have to either change the disposition, be homeless, or stop being men.

>>41315688
it came to me just fine.

>>41311375
>Not true. Lots of men are just perverted and stupid
correct
t. perverted and stupid man taking estrogen

>>41311749
They're not raping women. You don't need to transmax to do that. They're simply realizing that women will fuck them for clout.

>>41315754
tfw no one fucks me for clout :(
Help vintology what am I doing wrong?

I have not heard back from them yet. Not sure if anything will come out of this.

I kind of transmaxxed. I always wanted to be a woman regardless of social success but being an incel is what made me finally say fuck it, nothing to lose. I strongly suspect that if I had gotten a gf I'd have continued repping.

>>41304636 (OP)
Is transmaxxing a thing that actually happens irl or is it TER fanfiction? At best a transmaxxer will just become a hon who has to be in a switch relationship with multiple transbians, or be single forever. I don't think any man would be okay with their dick breaking and with growing tits just to have the chance at being with a woman... lmao.

>>41307917
damn browns will pick anyone just to have a white partner huh

>>41318132
i think the initial idea is a farce, a ruse designed to save our sisters from the path of the incel, though most "transmaxxers" ive met are HSTS (or trying to be hsts) transmeds, but they arent as mean as as your usual truscum

>>41304636 (OP)
its because the trans have become a giant optics nuke to both sides. people have grifted the trans identity to hard and now both sides are looking at it like tainted meat.

>>41318271
>transmeds
>transmaxxers
I think you might need to reevaluate what words mean, anon. Also I could see HSTS transmaxxers existing but they are completely irrelevant to the point of the OP article ("transmaxxing hurt real womyns").

>>41318132
transmaxxing is a cope where you say
>o-oh maybe I'd be happier as a girl but not in a dysphoria sort of way but in some other objective way like I could date guys and have a preferable social role, but not preferable because I'm dysphoric, preferable because everyone wants to be a woman right haha...

>>41318394
Ok but by definition a transmaxxer cannot be a trans medicalist because the entire basis of being trans medicalist is that your dysphoria is ingrained and independently medically verifiable and unchangeable and that's why you transition.

>>41318453
>and independently medically verifiable
but this has never really been the case
dysphoria is only independently medically verifiable insofar as a doctor can ask you "do you experience dysphoria"
I think that most transmaxxers likely do fit the criteria for gender dysphoria, and are simply unaware of what gender dysphoria actually is. They transition because they're unhappy as men and believe they would be happier as women.

>>41318472
Scratch a TRA and a transphobe bleeds

>>41318392
above is misinformed media bullshit, ignore and move on

>>41318472
this, its also why the optics of the trans movement are in such a fucked state, lots of conflicting messages.

>>41318472
>dysphoria is only independently medically verifiable insofar as a doctor can ask you "do you experience dysphoria"
lol, lmao even
A doctor can just ask if someone would prefer to have a penis or a vagina on their own body to determine if they have dysphoria.

>>41318716
Wtf is "the trans movement"?

>>41318798
that's not independently verifiable
the individual needs to know which they prefer, in which case there's no need for the doctor to verify

>>41318910
>that's not independently verifiable
Two different psychiatrists can ask the question independently of each other and arrive at the same conclusin on the patient. That's actually the minimum requirement for SRS (on top of HRT for 1-2 years) for most places.
>the individual needs to know which they prefer, in which case there's no need for the doctor to verify
OK, and? I'm not defending trans medicalism, I'm just pointing out that >>41318271 is stupid for thinking there's an overlap between trans medicalism and transmaxxing.

>>41318962
you're stupid for taking blanchardism seriously

>>41318996
>blanchardism
???
Just stop posting, dude.

>>41307917
bro turned white

>>41315397
>how do i get rid of wanting what women have?

>>41318962

That's not proper verification since you can go to 2 fortune tellers and get the same wrong prediction.

It's also unclear what exactly counts as gender dysphoria making the whole thing nebulous.

Then there is the whole "reverse dysphoria" notion which has very little in terms of support behind it when it comes to actual evidence (the notion that you will get dysphoric about female characteristics you get from HRT if you weren't dysphoric about male characteristics).

https://vintologi.com/threads/science-regarding-transexualism.566/page-2

transmaxxing is a fetish and i wish i could transmaxx

>>41318903
I usually have at least one of those a day.
>>41320562
What is the force motivating a man who's grown breasts due to a hormone imbalance or medication side effect to get them removed?
Not all men will, but some will.
For some it will be social pressure. For some it will be dysphoria. To be fair, difficult to separate.

>>41311095
nah they got u real mad im crying