Thread 41321427

In England, you MUST disclose!

So in this same vein, if a cis woman doesn't disclose that she has a vagina, I can have her jailed?

21 months of free housing and unlimited sex...this husstuss won the jackpot!

This is the one good think the bongs have done in regards to trans issues, trans people should receive criminal punishments for raping somebody by deception. Its even worse than "stealthing" a sexual partner, which is rightly viewed as sexual assault.

>>41321427 (OP)
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-trans-woman-ciara-watkin-36044015
>>41321448
>He added: "Throughout the full time, she was telling me she was on her period. It was like as far as I was concerned she was a female." Asked how he felt about what happened, the victim replied: "It makes me feel like it's taken away my manhood. I see it as something that upsets me. I'm just trying to hide my emotions. At first I did just have an emotional breakdown."
I think if she claimed to have a dick and actually had a vagina, she could get jailed.

>>41321448
no uk is a wombyn supremacist state

>>41321472
and they say androphilic trannies are supposed to be the non rapey ones

>>41321472
No fucking way he couldn't tell

if this wasn't rape why does it share so many other hallmarks with rape like plying her victim with alcohol and getting him nearly blackout drunk and showing a callous disregard for him and the legal process in general? she knows she raped, every tranny knows she raped him and every tranny that has a desire to stealth someone knows that are raping. idiotic counterfactual like >>41321448 is just rape apology

>>41321538
he knows the post nut clarity just hit and shame

>>41321543
they are so delusional they believe that they are real women and that women are exempt from rape

how do you not know when they literally have a penis still? what a disingenuous pos.

>>41321548
its entirely the same rape apologia talking points that only the dumbest cartoon misogynistic men use as well like these two
>>41321538
>>41321545
"he should have known better if he didn't want to get raped / he actually wanted it", you wouldn't even here this type of shit at scungiest pubs when everyone was down 12 pints these days.

>>41321564
she got him drunk on 3/4 a bottle of tequila, said she was on her period and never undressed and performed fellatio on him

>>41321576
look at his fucking face man he fucking knew

>>41321427 (OP)
only in England would a man complain about receiving a blowjob

>>41321427 (OP)
I know British women are ugly af but this is another level. How could this faggot not know he was a troon? Even if he anglefrauded and photoshopped the pics, you'd have to have known by the time you met this bloke?

>>41321584
bro he knew. that 3/4's of a bottle of courage to combat his internalized homophobia.

>>41321586
have you seen the average british slag? the UK is a country that has genepools entirely confined to a single housing estate since time immemorial

>>41321645
ew bro wtf is that no wonder the chopped cunts feel threatened by a man in a dress

>>41321427 (OP)
Honestly good. This is rape by deception

>>41321427 (OP)
Is it rape for a man to lie about being rich? Some believe it is, so this is the same logic.

>>41321662
Being charged for the crime is what I am saying is good to be clear, not the rape itself

>>41321427 (OP)
She's a retard and general shithead for concealing it but this entire thing is just setting a precedent for trannys to be post fact accused of rape even when it's made abundantly clear they're trans.

If you don't explicitly ask if someone is trans that's on you, if you do ask and that info is concealed then it's s/a.
It's on you to communicate your own preferences ultimately, I very clearly state I'm t4t for that exact reason

>>41321659
you dont like the divine british feminine?

"you can always tell"
not in england

>>41321725
>>41321741
10/10 in bongistan

>>41321700
Seems like she concealed so it is s/a

oi goin get ya willy out me gash is proper fucked today innit

When I saw her, at first I thought she was Welsh. She looks Welsh, and it seems like the sort of thing to go down in some irrelevant Welsh shithole. But it was actually the North East, which I wouldn't associated with unconvicing tranny sexual assault by deception. Weird.

>>41321586
>>41321619
>>41321626
The vikings literally pilfered every good looking woman from the UK and Ireland over a thousand years ago, with the occasional qt filtering down over the centuries from the Norman nobility. Urban British and Irish genetics combined with the local diet + drinking culture fucking DESTROYS most women by the time they're done with college.

>>41321864
British women and British food is what made British men good sailors.

>>41321472
>I think if she claimed to have a dick and actually had a vagina, she could get jailed.

Yeah fucking right, they gave one cis woman a suspended sentence for attacking her bf

>>41321538
He knew, his friends found out and he felt shame.

He said so in court

>>41321596
Shame is more important than happiness.

British men prefer to feel self hate to pleasure

>>41321448
Bro thinks transwomans are equal level as real woman who can CONCEIVE.

>>41321991
why yes

>>41321835
dire

>>41321798
u bloody rite

>>41321662
>rape by deception
doesn't exist in civilized countries

>>41321794
Depends if the guy explicitly asked. Which from the wording it seems he didn't.
When I say explicit I mean literally asking if the person is trans.
>>41321991
Nta but that's not what was said. That anon was making the point about disclosure.

>>41322094
She said she had a period, so she actively deceived rather than just not mentioning it.

why would you text that? honestly fucking stupid.

and how did the guy not see the wang doe there?

>>41322090
There's no such thing as civilized countries.

>>41321427 (OP)
just dont have sex. ez

>>41322111
>and how did the guy not see the wang doe there?
She probably didn't take off all her clothes, citing her period.

Would I go to prison for kissing a guy without telling him I’m a boy? I’ve done that a lot and now I’m worried

>>41321700
Asking someone if they are trans is seen as a horrible insult, you're a sadistic moron if you think men should just alienate every woman they interact with.

>>41321448
People have a right to assume the people they interact with are what they appear to be. We shouldn't have to restructure society around the needs of a small minority of liars.

>>41322303
Did you claim to be on your period or make some other explicit claim that implies that you're afab? If not you're good.

>>41321700
>if you do ask and that info is concealed then it's s/a
Disagree. It's fraud, but it's not sexual assault.
Sexual assault is a uniquely abhorrent act of directly violating another person's capacity to consent (whether physically or due to age differences). It must not be debased by including shit like, "he lied about being a lawyer!"

>>41322337
Well you appear to be a piece of shit, so you'll be ok

>>41322416
Words have no meaning now because the langauge of terfs is part of a larger plot to enslave humanity, but dilute language uses to express conditions of oppression.

So by calling trans people "mutiliated", it diminishes the pain experienced by victims of knife crime, or car crashes. By calling kissing whilst trans "rape", it diminishes the actual act of rape, which is one of the most traumatic events a person can go through.

Its designed to make people accept conditions and circumstances they would otherwise not tolerate. No coincidence the same people funding the anti trans movement also fund the 996 movement and want to abolish the concept of human rights. And they will succeed, because they exploit stupidity and hatred

>>41324115
Never forget that in the Handmaids Tale, Serena Joy was one of the most prominent women pushing for the abolishment of women's rights, and is now forced to watch her husband fuck younger, fertile women, whilst she is barren and old.

People will create a living hell for themselves if they think you will also join them in it.

>>41321427 (OP)
>In England, you MUST disclose!
It's honestly the only sane policy for a society to have. Imagine systemically supporting rape.

>>41324160
You know what? I'm just gonna say it: rape is treated as a bigger deal than it actually is. And I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>41321576
>"he should have known better if he didn't want to get raped / he actually wanted it"
There is a difference between being a prophet and being so fucking blind that you can't distinguish a fat bloke with face paint from a woman, you can't even make the "body curves" excuse nigga has the build of a british geezer
Also he changed his story, he first said that his friends made fun of him (aka he knew), then this suspiciously dissapeared. I wonder why?

>Imagine systemically supporting rape.
imagine telling a teenage girl raped for months by a bunch of pakis that you feel "raped" and "emasculated" because you were too ashamed of fucking a tranny and made up that xe "deceived" you

>>41322337
>you're a sadistic moron if you think men should just alienate every woman they interact with.
>only trannies should have to humiliate themselves by always disclosing

>>41321427 (OP)
>pic
Literally anyone can tell immediately that this is a troon, lol.

>>41321835
Why do British people look like this?

>>41321427 (OP)
deserved

>>41325038
>it's humiliating to be seen for what you are

sounds like a you problem

>>41325104
Men shouldn't be ashamed by telling every potential partner that they don't want a tranny, then.

>>41325057
Probably because their genes remained on one island. Though, they did something right, as their country is the center of the world map, and that isn't a coincidence.

>>41322416
I disagree because when talking about your genitalia (not even biological sex but genitalia) it changes the nature of the act being performed vs someone lying about their job, for example, which has no relevance on the act itself.

Although I suppose you could argue oral is oral in this case.
>>41324115
I very clearly stated I'm T4T. My entire point is that cis people need to say if they're not interested in trans people, the way I say I'm not interested in cis people. I am by no means a terf. I said sexual assault, not rape, because sexual assault can be considered to range in severity, whereas rape cannot (well in my view anyway).
>>41322337
>Asking someone if they are trans is seen as a horrible insult, you're a sadistic moron if you think men should just alienate every woman they interact with.
Not my fault that cis people think being trans is insulting. You created that bias, and you can live with it.
>We shouldn't have to restructure society around the needs of a small minority of liars.
It's not lying to live as a transwoman/man; we demonstrably exist, and we shouldn't have to structure our entire lives around your presumption that everyone is cis.

Men will do this to the world's most clocky tranny and then claim that they were raped:

>>41325241
Your partner is in danger, i hope they leave you immediately.

Being trans is not inherently deceptive, it isnt a disease, it isnt a crime. Its a medical conditon, and the british government is throwing innocent people in prison to be raped, traumatised and killed.

Anyone who supports this is evil.

>but i fuck about with a GNC person

I dont care. This ruling is pure evil. This is how the nazis spoke about trans people and we know what happens next

>>41321576
No more making fun of how trannies look then if apparently cis men cannot visually tell the difference between them and cis women. Apparently this "we can tell" thing has all been bullshit.

>Daily Mail: immigrants drink sprite at taxpayer funded hotel
>Brits: FUCKING BAN IT NOW

just british things, got me sprite licence

every news outlet is referring to him as "the victim". fucking pathetic. since when are people prosecuted for telling white lies to sleep with someone? google trends data implies the term 'rape by deception' essentially didn't even exist prior to 2010.
funnily enough, that first big spike seems to correlate with this story: https://abcnews.go.com/International/palestinian-claimed-jew-jailed-rape-deception/story?id=11224513
it kind of seems like this term only pops up when a demonized minority fails to inform one of their oppressors of their unworthiness. funny.

>>41327011
oops, forgot to attach the picrel.

She looks a lot like JK Rowling during her "poverty" days.

>>41327011
Funny how literal victims are ignored by the media, but some chav scum who gets a blowjob then flaps when his friends find out is now a victim.

Again, conflation of words, if getting your dick sucked is rape, and kidnapping a 12 year old schoolgirl and forcing her into group sex with 50 year old men at gun point is also rape, then theres no difference between the two.

Both are victims of rape, and words now mean nothing, which is the intention. No coincidence 98% of rapes go unconvicted

>>41321427 (OP)
>In England, you MUST disclose!
Yes? Literally only sensible policy.

>>41326430
Retard I never said I agree with the ruling and I explicitly said I don't think being trans is deception learn how to read.
Your desire to derive extreme views out of places where there arent any makes you a danger liable to overreacting to minor disagreements.