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Anonymous No.41362263 [Report] >>41362632
Fact Check: No, There Is Not A New Survey Showing Trans Identity Is Decreasing
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/fact-check-no-there-is-not-a-new

>On Tuesday, Kaufmann posted a Twitter thread declaring that “trans identification is in free fall among the young.” The graph he used to prove it, however, was fundamentally flawed—it showed students who identified as “neither male nor female,” a category that excludes most transgender men and women. In other words, Kaufmann’s supposed evidence of a collapse in “trans identification” was actually a selective chart of nonbinary students, not transgender people as a whole.

>The error didn’t stop there. Researchers quickly discovered that Kaufmann’s graph—based on data from the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), a right-leaning organization [Fire disputes this characterization| that studies campus speech—contained a fundamental methodological mistake. Data scientist Jacob Eliason was the first to spot it: Kaufmann had run his analysis using the raw survey responses rather than applying the weighting provided by FIRE to make the results nationally representative. Without weighting, the data dramatically misrepresented the population—and created the illusion of a drop where none existed. When Eliason re-ran the numbers correctly, the trend line flipped entirely, showing that the share of students identifying as neither male nor female had increased, not decreased. Kaufmann’s analysis, in other words, didn’t reveal a cultural shift—it revealed statistical malpractice.
Anonymous No.41362274 [Report]
>Multiple data scientists told Erin In The Morning this is a fundamental mistake. “To put it in context — every single political poll uses weighting. No one would pay for an unweighted one. I’d explain weighting as ‘being representative.’ Without weighting a survey is unrepresentative. For instance if you survey 40 people randomly, & then discover that 30 of them are male, that’s not representative of the population which is 49% male, 51% female. The bad graph doesn’t take that into account. So you have to weight the female responses heavier to reflect their representing half the population,” said Dr. Robert Bohan, who graduated from Trinity College Dublin with a diploma in advanced statistics studies.

>When asked why he didn’t use the survey weights, Kaufmann offered no real justification—just a curt admission: “Yes no weights. I don’t believe weighting is appropriate for this kind of over time analysis.” Data scientists Erin In The Morning spoke with found that answer indefensible. In fact, weighting isn’t less important in longitudinal survey analysis—it’s more important. Because each year’s sample draws from a different mix of respondents, failing to weight the data means year-to-year comparisons reflect sampling quirks, not actual trends. Kaufmann’s defense only underscored what the experts were already saying: his analysis didn’t uncover a social phenomenon; it revealed a fundamental error in his own methodology.
Anonymous No.41362632 [Report]
>>41362263 (OP)
This board ain't big enough for two Erinposters....
Anonymous No.41362653 [Report] >>41362676
stop tolerating faith
Faith No.41362676 [Report] >>41362680
>>41362653
Oh...
Anonymous No.41362680 [Report]
>>41362676
yeah, you
gtfo
Anonymous No.41363755 [Report]
bum
Anonymous No.41363805 [Report]
I mean yeah. That's all the anti-trans activists do. Every week they come up with some wacky "shocking new fact" supposedly undermining trans people, turns out it was a massive lie. At a certain point you tune them out if you're not low IQ, like most "detransitioners" are, but at least there's people documenting it out there.
Anonymous No.41364267 [Report]
yea
Anonymous No.41364333 [Report]
tl;dr the statistics will confess under torture.
statistics make can make an ill informed decision or misrepresent. Either figure out and listen to competing arguments or take your place in the endless halls of unimportant people... that go out and vote I guess
Anonymous No.41365473 [Report] >>41365490
why did she write an article on this? does anybody care? Even if it was true that the number students identifying as trans was falling, it would not affect me? I know that conservatives think trannies are all following a trend but an actual audience of trans people obviously knows that's not true so why would they even react to such propaganda.
Anonymous No.41365490 [Report] >>41365628
>>41365473
To put it on the record anywhere at all. Who else is even responding to the flavor of the week government talking point about trans people?
Anonymous No.41365628 [Report] >>41366471
>>41365490
I guess I was more asking, does such lazy propaganda really need responding to?
Anonymous No.41366471 [Report]
>>41365628
when it’s parroted in talking spaces that seek to collect any evidence as to demonize the trans community, having a trail that exposes their hypocrisy only ever benefits those desiring truth of the matter.

I’d rather there be a reference that can be used to expose these cretins for their disinformation rather than quietly permit this shit to continue ushering harmful and inaccurate understandings about a marginalized group.