Thread 41395308

When you see a transgender person, what makes you go "that's a cissexual faketrans right there"?
Be honest anons.

always
trans people are never valid
they are just their birth sex and nothing more
anything else is delusional rhetoric unsupported by quality evidence

judging people is wrong

>>41395320
does this apply to trannies judging "chasers"?

>>41395308 (OP)
Their not valid when they've done any of the following

Had a long term relationship with a woman

Fathered a child

Served in the military or as a cop

Has a heavy interest in war,guns, or cars

Has a dismissive and snarky nerd personality where they think their smarted than everyone else

Works a very male oriented job like construction or computers

Has a degree in stem

Harbors pathological hatred towards cis men.. incel mindset ( think of chris chan)

>>41395321
ok, judging people who make their problems into your problems probably isn't wrong lol

>>41395321
please stop using that word with a hard R at the end anon, its 2025 ffs.

>>41395308 (OP)
"Is that person me?"

If not then not valid

>>41395308 (OP)
>refuses to voice train or take hrt

>>41395326
>Has a degree in stem
touch grass please

>>41395326
Indeed if an MtF is male-brained like that, they're just a cissexual man.

>>41395308 (OP)
i side eye the fuck out of any mtf who willingly grows out their facial hair for one reason or another. i've tried giving them chances before but every time they're so creepy and just view trannies like me as nothing more than a conquest to get in the pants of.

>>41395308 (OP)
When the "trans" person is a cis person saying they're trans for a bit

>>41395308 (OP)

When they aren't on HRT.

>>41395308 (OP)
If they don't want and are not on HRT
Like what
If there's no surgery or hrt, you are a queer cis person or some other shit

>>41395464
Yeah I think if you refuse to make any attempt at all to meet straight society halfway, then you can't be that upset when people don't go along with it. If a trans person goes all in on feminizing themself, then wanting people to see you and treat you as a woman is reasonable, even if your transition wasn't great. You want people to acknowledge a truth. But if you don't transition and expect to be seen and treated as a woman, Then all you are doing is imposing on the politeness of others.

Plus, if you don't want to feminize your body at all, then what are you even doing here? You are 100% fine with having a fully masculinized body, you just want to wear a dress and have people call you Toadette? What is the drive there? I don't think you need to feel dysphoria to be "really" trans, but I think you do need to at least feel a compelling urge to "trans"form yourself!

And let's say that being trans is banned, all trans people have to detransition, how is that a problem for you if you never even transitioned? "Oh no, now I have to go back to wearing men's jeans instead of women's jeans! And make no other changes because I made no changes to get to where I am!"

>>41395308 (OP)
Not being attractive.

>look at transwoman
>yup that's a cis male right there

>>41395308 (OP)
>hasn't voice trained
>isn't on hrt
>has a beard
>willingly fathered a child
>only owns skimpy fetishistic outfits
>any significant sexual misconduct in their past
>constantly talking about being trans
Obviously this is for MTFs, it would feel weird policing FTMs. I feel bad that there is so much, but at the same time a valid trans person is someone that is trying to transition to a woman. This stuff is not hard to do, I can't see you as legitimate if you aren't acting like a woman.

>>41395308 (OP)
Stop asking these stupid fucking baby-trans questions. You're trying to draw a line in the sand to make sure you're on the "right" side of it. There is no right side. The entire beach is sinking into the ocean.
>spend 5 years on HRT
>spend $100k on FFS
>voice train until your throat bleeds
>pass 99% of the time to polite strangers
>get called "sir" by a tired cashier at 2 AM and >realize your entire life is a fragile lie held together by social convention
You're not valid. I'm not valid. Nobody is valid. You are a man in a dress until the day you die. Now take your blackpill and stop cluttering the board with this remedial-tier cope.

>>41397359
>Nobody is valid.
maybe your obese 6'4 old ass is, not others

>>41395308 (OP)
when they dont put in the time or effort to actually transition. when they try to keep their old self.

also these dudes that get married and have kids. if you can be a man long enough to get married, you are not trans, period.

>>41397359
speak for yourself

>>41395320
I don't understand why people refuse to excommunicate bad actors. Surely it is completely possible for someone to be disingenuously identifying as trans for a ton of reasons? They could be a criminal trying to deflect from their crimes. They might be grifting to generate money and fame. They could be savvy opponent trying to make the community look bad, there are tons of documented examples of that. If you believe it's possible than you have to be ready for it. I'm so tired of people telling me I'm wrong for doing it. I'm not. Every group on earth will disavow someone who is not acting correctly, but with trans people all of a sudden it's oh no they're a bad person but don't invalidate their identity!

>>41395308 (OP)
people would call me transmed for saying so but if you're not on hrt and don't have any intention or desire to be then you are just not trans because literally what i this about to you? trans women who lived 100's of years of go are of course valid trans women that are homeless or live in some 3rd world country or anything else that could be preventing them are of course valid, but if you have access to hrt and you don't take it then like, okay, clearly you don't want to be the other gender then.

i think trans people are trans. you have to transition to be trans. if you just say you're trans and you don't do anything beyond swapping your pronouns in your bio then you literally are not. being trans is not some abstraction that means absolutely nothing, it's real and it's something you do.

>>41395308 (OP)
Theres one absolute boomerhon in my sity I keep seeing while out
Theyre balding and wear the most trashy ,skimpy klothes ,probably not on HRT and absolutely dont voise train
There are other real trans in my sity who make an effort to either pass or hide it but this one motherfukker

>>41395308 (OP)
>Birthgender/they pronouns
>More or less presents cisgender
>Constantly talks about being one of the queers.

Like I pretty much accept almost anyone as LGBT but secretly this exact genre of trans feels like posers to me. Like they try to say they are trans but have done nothing to walk the walk.

Like I think NB even AGAB/They is valid. Its just the very specific category of people who make a disproportionate deal out of it compared to how they actually change their presentation.

>>41395308 (OP)
>isn’t on hrt
>hasn’t voice trained
>doesn’t pass
>ugly
>if they’re cringe / make the community look bad
>if they didn’t know they were trans since they started forming memories
>if they didn’t take puberty blockers / started transitioning when they were a 25-year-old boomer
>if they still grow facial hair / body hair
>if they go around telling people that they’re trans instead of being stealth. Only never-passing hons take “pride” in being trans because they have no choice but to force normies to pretend they’re “valid” or whatever because they will never pass. It’s all a cope.
>by the same token, having a trans flag, painting the trans flag on their body, wearing clothes or accessories with the trans flag on it, broadcasting to everyone that they’re a fucking degenerate troon who has a penis and cums like a man
>malebrained hobbies/interests
>AGP/attracted to women/dating a woman
>if they’re the dominant one in sex, even with a man. Sorry hon, dominating a man doesn’t make you a dominatrix, it makes you a gay man with a sissy fetish.
>if they’re a degenerate poly weirdo (always a hon too)
>if they still have a dick
>if they say pervert shit like “girlcock”
>if they’re a furry
>if they wear fucking diapers
>if they not only wear diapers but it’s also a sex thing and they pop a “girlboner” from pooping in their disney princess pampers with their hairy stinky hon-butt and then sit in their engorged-with-poop diaper while they jerk their elephantine hairy musclehon jumbo magnum schlong
>if they’re on this board

If all things which disqualify you from being a trutrans were written, not even the whole world could contain it

>>41395308 (OP)
if they act like a fool and stir controversy and disgust normies, I question whether they are a planted psyop