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how am i supposed to socialize as a transsexual who isn’t a leftist?

>the people who would typically agree with what i have to say with me won’t connect me because of who i am
>the people who would typically connect with me because of who i am won’t talk to me because of what i have to say

like i don’t feel like i should have to cultishly conform to a political ideology i know is wrong just because i have a medical condition that gets emotionally blackmailed by that side into forced support.

and i feel like i shouldn’t be forced to go to them for socialization because average people have been convinced to conflate autogynephiles & all the clear negative weirdness that they cause with actual transsexuals like me, and therefore won’t talk to me either

i used to just be the gay twink accessory to a bunch of girl friend groups. they’d always do my nails & makeup & give me their old clothes to wear. sort of pushed me in the direction of transition. but they all like, grew up & moved onto having families. i’m at the age i want a husband & a family now too. but my social life has fucking evaporated. i’m super pretty, ive had really good FFS. people constantly compliment my looks. but like nobody gets close with me. and anyone who does gets mad eventually that i’m not woke.

idk what to do? at this point i feel like i’m just gonna need to find a controlling sociopath man to date to make up for the lack of other socialization anymore. but i don’t wanna date until after SRS. i feel so alone. i just want a normal social life again
Anonymous No.41404848 [Report] >>41404895 >>41404947 >>41406380 >>41408998
i dunno, fuck off and go to church or something
Anonymous No.41404873 [Report] >>41404947
>>41404822 (OP)
dont get srs wtf
also politics are two sides of the same coin used as a tool to control the masses. the population in the us is 350 million and alot of americans are crazy so if politicians want to psyop them to keep everyone under control, i agree with their methods. makes sense to me. whenever i talk to people and politics come up i just kind of hear their opinion and add nonbiased apolitical commentary to keep the flow and try to advert the subject to something not about politics, usually by adding a joke that throws them off their aggressive rant.. idk!
Anonymous No.41404895 [Report] >>41404947 >>41406380 >>41408998
>>41404848
This is the kind of support you can expect from leftists when you don't agree with their politics.
Anonymous No.41404927 [Report] >>41404943 >>41404947 >>41405184
>>41404822 (OP)
just like dont talk about politics? idk?
personally im a leftist but i hate talking about it cuz of major burnout following the results of the election and how that mess turned out. i have a very right wing friend and we never get deep into politics but on a surface level i can understand where hes coming from and hes happy with his politics and doesnt hurt ppl so it literally does not matter to me.
im not an expert and maybe youre interacting with incredibly wokescold types or w/e but maybe try doing something like that?
Anonymous No.41404943 [Report]
>>41404927
i'm an anarcho communist and i'm friends with a fascist!
Anonymous No.41404947 [Report] >>41404998 >>41405009 >>41411345 >>41412456 >>41416499
>>41404848
referring back to:
>the people who would typically agree with what i have to say with me won’t connect me because of who i am
>>41404873
>>41404927
i am getting srs. i’m not a crossdressing agp, i’m actually extremely uncomfortable with my current genitalia & have no desire to have sex until i have srs. i am not debating that any further
i try to act apolitical too but that eventually sets off red flags. i literally got interrogated yesterday for not ever laughing at my friends’ “trump fascist” jokes. literal silence was apparently suspicious. being non-committal always gets noticed eventually
>>41404895
honestly way better than the usual “erm why are you sleeping with the literal heckin enemy??”
Anonymous No.41404989 [Report] >>41405004
>>41404822 (OP)
You sound annoying. By the way, normal people don’t need to agree on politics to get along.
Anonymous No.41404998 [Report] >>41405004
>>41404947
>i literally got interrogated yesterday for not ever laughing at my friends’ “trump fascist” jokes
kinda fucked but maybe they were really funny? idk, those kind of jokes get old rly fast anyway
im on basically the other side as you so i wouldnt know how you feel on that kind of stuff but theres a lot of humor u can find in jokes that you dont agree with, some things can be universally funny if you let them. for example there are some pol-tier memes i find really funny that would be condemned by most ppl of similar belief than me just cuz idk i can find whats funny? maybe im stupid and im probably an outlier anyway but hey thats my take
Anonymous No.41405003 [Report] >>41405028 >>41405042
I’m like u op but I don’t want srs and honestly that’s a leftist desire
Anonymous No.41405004 [Report]
>>41404989
>normal people don’t need to agree on politics to get along.
i agree
>>41404998
>maybe they were really funny?
they weren’t
Anonymous No.41405009 [Report] >>41405042 >>41405046
>>41404947
>i am not debating that any further
I am not trying to offend you here just shining some light on this. Ok so being trans is a touchy subject, I understand it must be hard, but when you say stuff like i am not debating that any further, it actually eludes to a mindset typically (from my interactions) with left leaning folk. the reason i say this is that if i were to contest your decision in an open discussion it would lead to you either being offended, emotionally damaged, or downright angry at me for not adhering to your ultimatum. i can get along and blend in with crowds of all types and have and do on the daily, but that kind of "im now walking on eggshells not to offend this person" vibe you are giving off is gonna be a no go for me when i am dating someone. i could deal with that for the initial portion of dating but sooner or later, not being able to speak my mind freely would override the physical attraction and happiness id get from dating said person. idk!
Anonymous No.41405028 [Report] >>41405047 >>41406609
>>41404822 (OP)
I'm a RW chaser, if I found a cute racist twink I'd boywife them instantly
>>41405003
based wya?
Anonymous No.41405042 [Report] >>41405088 >>41405188 >>41406609 >>41412456
>>41405003
>>41405009
wanting to have actual sex instead of disgusting anal cope is not leftist, lol
and you’re right i really wish people didn’t assume they needed to walk around eggshells around me because i happen to be trans. it’s literally one of my least favorite things about being trans. i hate the apology freak outs people put me through when they think they accidentally offended me. but it actually is deeply personal & out of pocket to say “don’t get srs” to a complete stranger (i’m not your girlfriend) & then act like you were victimized when i pushed back on that bizarre request
Anonymous No.41405046 [Report] >>41405097
>>41405009
nta but you are extremely stupid and politically illiterate if you think "i dont want to discuss this further" is a left wing characteristic. the average human just doesnt like being challenged on beliefs they hold important, and i have seen it across the political spectrum basically equally
Anonymous No.41405047 [Report] >>41405053 >>41405065 >>41405068 >>41410067
>>41405028
i’m not interested in chasers or anyone who would think of me whatsoever in the realm of “boywives”. i’m a woman with a birth defect, please go away
Anonymous No.41405053 [Report] >>41405066
>>41405047
did you vote for george w bush?
Anonymous No.41405065 [Report] >>41405081
>>41405047
nigga that's all you're gonna get with that attitude, Brianna Wu ass pick-me tranny
Anonymous No.41405066 [Report]
>>41405053
no, i wasn’t born yet
Anonymous No.41405068 [Report] >>41405081
>>41405047
>I’m a man with a complex
FTFY
Anonymous No.41405081 [Report] >>41405114
>>41405065
i don’t even think you could tell me what this sentence is supposed to mean. how am i a pick-me for having self respect & not giving into someone who wants to refer to me with gross fetishistic p*rn terminology.
>>41405068
first week being edgy?
Anonymous No.41405082 [Report] >>41405103
gotta be honest right wingers really not showing their best in this thread. crazy because op is actually being extremely reasonable imo
Anonymous No.41405088 [Report] >>41405103
>>41405042
>disgusting anal cope
Too right wing even for me, I'm surprised.
Anonymous No.41405097 [Report] >>41405124
>>41405046
okay thank you for your input and for calling me stupid. since you decided to insult me, ill tell you that from my point of view (what do i know lmao i know right?) that holding a view, voting, or anything to do with either side of the political spectrum is openly admitting that you think any of this is real. Government is most certainly necessary and important for a stable society, but believing that the issues broadcasted for the masses to get offended at is something to get all upset about is stupid. that is dumb. you are doing what the psyop of whatever subject you are feeding into is telling you to do. you are literally being controlled by another human's idea. free thinking and free speech are what make americans americans.
Anonymous No.41405102 [Report] >>41405140
>>41404822 (OP)
I feel the same, frankly. Being stuck with people who hate you for who you are but that you agree with, or people that are fine with who you are but hate you for what you believe in, is a horrible position to be in. Pretty much all my online friends (who have no idea) will not stop talking about how much they hate trans people at every opportunity and that always wavers between annoying and outright depressing to deal with.
Anonymous No.41405103 [Report]
>>41405082
ty i appreciate it
>>41405088
it’s just actually gross & the mind that wants to sexually enter an asshole doesn’t seem like one i could find myself attracted to
Anonymous No.41405114 [Report] >>41405137 >>41405140
>>41405081
Edge is dark, calling a male human with an opinion a man is just statement of fact
Anonymous No.41405124 [Report] >>41405161
>>41405097
bitch i agree with most of what you said but youre the one who suddenly accused op of having a left leaning mindset for something that to any reasonable person who gets out and meets people or literally just understands pychology is just a normal human thing. you are doing it too.
Anonymous No.41405137 [Report] >>41405337
>>41405114
yeah but you are intentionally saying things to hurt that human, which would imply you do not have empathy for that human. thats pretty evil dude
Anonymous No.41405140 [Report] >>41412456
>>41405102
i totally agree & i’m in the same boat. i don’t tell the people i talk to online i’m trans & they are extremely negative on the topic because, like most people, they’ve been taught to conflate AGPs with us. i can’t even blame them for being anti-trans if they think trans = AGP. but i can’t correct them either because it’ll raise the question why i’m even trying to raise the distinction
irl i feel like i can’t be honest either because i’ll lose actual social connections for espousing views that would have been considered completely normal, even perhaps liberal, in 1995.
it makes me feel crazy that i can’t be totally honest with anyone, when this whole transition thing was supposed to be about finally living authentically.
>>41405114
okie dokie
Anonymous No.41405161 [Report] >>41405185
>>41405124
Do not debate me further or else I will be forced to kiss your tummy and I must warn, I have sexy stubble that will scratch said tummy. Also apologize for calling me the b-word. That was too far.
Anonymous No.41405184 [Report] >>41405214
>>41404927
This. I lean right and have multiple great 15+ year old long relationships with lefties. Literally just don't talk about politics. If they can't stop talking about it despite the fact you don't want to, you need new friends. It's not that big of a deal
Anonymous No.41405185 [Report] >>41405207
>>41405161
sorry it was just meant to denote that im frustrated not an indictment of your character. also no offense but you are probably ugly
Anonymous No.41405188 [Report] >>41405214 >>41405283
>>41405042
>wanting to have actual sex instead of disgusting anal cope
uh, what about drilling a hole into yourself and fucking that is more “actual” than anal? If you had srs but put the hole on your arm would that be more actual? It’s effectively the same wound.
Anonymous No.41405200 [Report] >>41405234
>>41404822 (OP)
"I just want other historically disadvantaged groups to be oppressed but not me" is, coming from a transsexual, going to be a pretty niche and alienating position.
Anonymous No.41405207 [Report] >>41405256
>>41405185
that would be super offensive if i were ugly lol
but if we're being honest.. i imagined you were ugly too -_-
Anonymous No.41405214 [Report] >>41405229 >>41405243 >>41405244
>>41405184
i don’t talk about it lol. i’ve said this multiple times by now. but i’m also not going to pretend i feel ways i don’t because, again, this was transition thing was supposed to be about living authentically
>>41405188
i already said i’m not debating this. it’s my choice.
Anonymous No.41405229 [Report] >>41405234
>>41405214
I ain't reading all that teebeeh
Anonymous No.41405234 [Report]
>>41405200
i’m sorry that you’ve been convinced that’s what all non-leftist views can ever boil down to
>>41405229
it’s like thirty words but okay dude
Anonymous No.41405243 [Report] >>41405283
>>41405214
I think the problem is trying to claim that you are a woman is going to alienate a lot of people on the right from you, when you are biologically male. There's nothing wrong with living how you want to live, that aside.
Anonymous No.41405244 [Report] >>41405283
>>41405214
Didn’t ask to debate your choice of whether or not you want to cut your dick off, I’m curious as to how you came to the conclusion that anal is somehow less real than an artificial hole
Anonymous No.41405256 [Report] >>41405288
>>41405207
oh i definitely am im a gross neverpasser lol but i can still be right
Anonymous No.41405283 [Report] >>41405314 >>41405371 >>41412456
>>41405188
i already said i’m not debating this. it’s a necessity for me to live a functional & fulfilling life. i cannot do that with incorrect genitalia.
>>41405244
there are plenty of gay men out there you can have sex with if sticking your dick inside of an asshole means that much to you. i assume God put the g-spot there for y’all on purpose. but it’s not heterosexual intercourse unless it’s a vagina on me.
>>41405243
yes it is unfortunate that AGPs ruined the reputation of transsexuals and forced those of us who are legitimately just women with birth defects to answer for the sins of deranged fetishists
Anonymous No.41405288 [Report] >>41405327
>>41405256
what do you want me to say here
Anonymous No.41405314 [Report]
>>41405283
You sound very AGP actually
Anonymous No.41405318 [Report]
kinda crazy that what i asked was “how do i socialize as a non-leftist transsexual” and my thread got turned into chasers angry that i’m getting a medically necessary surgery
i’d appreciate if we could get back on topic
Anonymous No.41405327 [Report] >>41405334 >>41405342
>>41405288
uh idk? you brought your appearance into it, just say youre wrong and im right or smth i dont actually care. idk why im still in this thread anyway the good points and valuable contributions disappeared like 20 posts ago buh bye
Anonymous No.41405334 [Report]
>>41405327
mhm
Anonymous No.41405337 [Report]
>>41405137
Oh, you misunderstand empathy. I can understand how they feel and still act against them without being “evil.” In this case, they’re shaming multiple people for their assumptions on their identity, then they explicitly state what they want you to believe about them despite the obvious warping to reality required to agree. They’re effectively bullying strangers into their personal mental frame for what is and isn’t acceptable, and to push back feels like a fair response to me.
Anonymous No.41405342 [Report] >>41406515
>>41405327
p*rn addicts ruin literally everything. i came here for legitimate advice & they just came in raging that i (someone they’ll never talk to again) won’t suffer for the rest of my life in order to be part of their “dickgirl” fetish
Anonymous No.41405360 [Report] >>41405398
>>41404822 (OP)
I understand why being a weirdo about politics makes it hard for you to make friends with leftists, but I don't understand how being trans makes it hard to make right wing friends? It seems like you're unbothered by people hating on other trannies since you're doing it yourself, just go be stealth or be one of the good ones
Anonymous No.41405371 [Report] >>41405398
>>41405283
I’m a straight man, and I fuck my gf in the ass once a week or two. You’re really spinning this all up into a bigger thing than it needs to be, I think you could really stand to figure out where these thoughts are actually coming from.
Anonymous No.41405389 [Report] >>41405438
>>41404822 (OP)

Maybe you could advocate for trans rights in right wing conservative social circles and explain to them that you're one of the good ones because you're not AGP =D all they have to do is use their superior logic and reasoning and listen to you, right?
Anonymous No.41405398 [Report] >>41405450 >>41405469
>>41405360
because right wing people arent going want to explain why they’re hanging around a transsexual. so they limit how close with me they get. working on going stealth so this won’t be an issue anymore.
>>41405371
i don’t want to be fucked in the ass. it’s that simple. i am not debating this.
Anonymous No.41405402 [Report] >>41405438
Being a rwer is retarded, but the purity testing of tranny groups is intolerable. I like edgy jokes, I don't care about activism, I am extremely individualistic.
Solution: don't hang out with trannies.
>t. post-left mtf
Anonymous No.41405431 [Report]
>>41404822 (OP)
"lol" said the scorpion, "lmao"
Anonymous No.41405438 [Report] >>41412456 >>41412475
>>41405389
i mean yea this generally works honestly. when i tell them there’s been an organized conspiracy to co-opt us with a foreign group (AGPs) to cause societal decay & destruction, it piques their interest & they’re willing to listen.
>>41405402
this is how i feel too. i’m also post-left. i miss having cis friend groups. it was so much better. but it feels like i’ve been locked in with trannies since like year 2 of transition. i’m trying to figure out how to get back out of it
Anonymous No.41405450 [Report] >>41407674
>>41405398
do you actually interact with right wing people, or are you just assuming things about their views towards trans people based on your own?
There are plenty of right wingers who are pretty agnostic on trans issues as it applies to people over 25. Just because you're embarrassed to be seen as a tranny in public doesn't by default mean that other people are embarrassed to be seen with a tranny in public.
Anonymous No.41405460 [Report]
>>41404822 (OP)
i know about traumadumping but what do you call it when someone just starts sperging out & talking politics at you? because that happens to me way more often than it should
Anonymous No.41405469 [Report] >>41407674 >>41410157
>>41405398
Yeah, it’s still not a debate, just data mining here. I’m still not quite seeing how your mind works is all, trying to figure out what you think srs actually does. It’s not an actual vagina obviously, so when you’re using terms like “actual,” “hetero,” etc. it feels like you’re holding on to a dream and ignoring the warnings. It’s likely that sex with that hole will hurt like hell as it often does and sex drive will plummet without testes, so if you’re up for describing your thoughts on this, I’d like to hear what you picture this operation doing for you outside of the purely idealistic angle of “let me have sex with my correct genitals?”
Anonymous No.41405477 [Report] >>41407674 >>41407692
>>41404822 (OP)
Idk, you’ve some how concluded that siding with right wingers is must be more tolerable to people who share your identity, yet remain flabbergasted that they continue to hold revulsion with even associating with you. But to top it off you’re insistent that a connection with said group is somehow meaningful when it is and will continue to be at odds with a core identity for you.

Whenever people poke the logic of uncle tom’s, it seems to never hold a modicum of sanity once scrutinized.

Your situation boils down to detransitioning and identify as a gay twink until republicans target fags next (and you’d still struggle finding traditionalist willing to be open with you), or reconcile your political views and just be a sub-division of lefty. Though you unironically use blanchard terminology so you might be a lost cause anyway.
Anonymous No.41405486 [Report] >>41407674
>>41404822 (OP)
LOL imagine needing FFS. Sorry you feel uncomfortable around your fellow autogynephiles
Anonymous No.41405519 [Report] >>41405580 >>41407674
>anal is yucky and gross
>neo-vagina is somehow not gross and hetero

You seem like the type to call other trannies (especially if they don’t or haven’t medically transition) as deluded, but here you are genuinely defending the belief that SRS will give the same cis vagina experience 1:1
All you’re missing is being a religious nutjob to complete the insanity trifecta.
Anonymous No.41405563 [Report] >>41407692
>>41404822 (OP)
"im not like the other trannys" lookin ass ahahahahaaaaaa
no but like im really sorry for your situation, i hope you find a nice trad husband in the future anon <3
Anonymous No.41405580 [Report] >>41406281 >>41410174
>>41405519
Jejunal neovag is arguably superior.

Odor ranges from none to mild and not unpleasant. Never dry. Stretchy. More robust than natal vaginal tissue. No risk of uncomfortable cervix contact. Zero risk of pregnancy. Trans women can learn deep pelvic muscle control to rhythmically contract the canal and gently hug the penis.
Anonymous No.41405640 [Report] >>41407692
I unironically get along with far right guys more than leftist trans women. Im friends with a groyper and a fascist. They've been respectful towards me which is nice.
Anonymous No.41405687 [Report] >>41407692
>>41404822 (OP)
You just gotta rope dude. Being a righoid trannie is already basically doing a full sui anyway. Literally everyone that shares your hate based ideology wants you dead so give your people what they want
Anonymous No.41406281 [Report] >>41406312 >>41407692
>>41405580
>save for rancid fish smell; no odor can be seen as devoid of the smell and taste of eating pussy
>cant self lubricate
>No cervix contact (rare as it is) men would see that as a downside
>can’t get pregnant, at an age where men in OP’s range want to settle down and have children of their own
>eating out a neo-vagina is notably different than a cis-vagina and arguably not great

>risk of botched surgery
>risk of axe wound smell due to surgery
>risk of growing hair inside of neo-vagina
>risk of closing up if patient does not consistently dilate
>risk of infection due to it being an open wound
>massive stigma among men, especially rightoid and non-lefty men that view neo-vagina as abominable and a no deal on their end
Anonymous No.41406312 [Report]
>>41406281
Source: I made it the fuck up bro
Anonymous No.41406380 [Report]
>>41404848
>>41404895
It's supposed to be rude, but it's actually spot on. I skipped election and instead made a donation to a church. It's the final boss of based.
Anonymous No.41406515 [Report]
>>41405342
This is what happens when you don't gatekeep chasers.
Anonymous No.41406601 [Report] >>41406653 >>41406692 >>41407692
Ha, I'm not alone.

goodluck op!
Anonymous No.41406609 [Report] >>41407692
>>41405028
Texas but I have a wife sorry anon gl
>>41405042
um maybe you should adopt left wing beliefs I think you’ll fit right in
Anonymous No.41406653 [Report]
>>41406601
Anonymous No.41406692 [Report]
>>41406601
Fucking lmao are you supposed to be some sort of tranner? A neverpasser aaaaand a maga pedophile? Rip any chance of happiness for you
Anonymous No.41407674 [Report] >>41407846 >>41409283 >>41412456 >>41412842
>>41405450
i’m not over 25 is the thing though. it’s way more politicized with people my age. i’m extremely resentful of the left for trying to claim the mere existence of transsexuals as an issue that belongs to them. my medical condition is not a political ideology. but autogynephilia and modern trans ideology absolutely does belong to the left, & they would like to pretend i dont even exist. it’s genuine colonization of the former transsexual community by leftist insanity — attempting to erase & displace us who actually belonged here
>>41405469
well i cry every single day when i see/feel my current incorrect genitalia & so i’m getting the surgery that will bring me as close to currently humanly possible as the functional correct one
>>41405477
i don’t know how you’ve concluded political ideology is a choice & not just the natural consequence of your lifetime of experiences. i don’t hate the left, no matter how destructive i think they are, because their life path which is different than mine informed their beliefs & all i can do is attempt to understand where they’re coming from. my lifetime (so far) of experiences has shown me that right wing nationalist ideologies yield ideal results. if i had lived a different life where leftist ideologies playing out hadn’t severely harmed me, then i imagine perhaps i would be more on that side. i will never, ever detransition because i’m a woman with a birth defect that i must correct no matter what inconveniences arise, not someone who treats transition as a costume to be taken on & off depending on the convenience of my situation. that’s an indictment of your view on transition if you think that’s an option for me.
>>41405486
i have zero community with AGPs
>>41405519
i am very much Catholic & believe in One Holy Apostolic Church. i would like to be stealth enough that i can go to Catholic Church without question & that’s my goal i’ll hopefully achieve next year
Anonymous No.41407692 [Report] >>41407846 >>41412456
>>41405563
i’m literally not like the AGPs though. actual transsexual brain structures do not even match with AGPs
>>41405640
lol literally. leftists are just as bigoted but they bottle it up & let it explode on anyone who dares step out of the box they’ve built for any minority group to stand in (see >>41405477). but groypers let their thoughts out naturally & uncensored and are therefore much more pleasant to be around.
>>41405687
suicide is for cowards & i don’t respect the suicidal
>>41406281
quiet seething chaser / AGP i’m going to the same surgeon as my absolutely beautiful friend who has had complete satisfaction with her results. i am not your fetish, i am a woman with a birth defect
>>41406601
you are alone i want nothing to do with whatever you are
>>41406609
2020 showed us what leftist utopia looks like & i do not want anything close to that. no thanks.
Anonymous No.41407846 [Report] >>41407895
>>41407674
>i don’t hate the left no matter how destructive they are
>the right are totally nowhere as destructive in their policy making, agenda, or tolerance towards others
either living with your head in the sand or unironically does not give a shit about anyone that isn’t white and traditional
>catholic
ok that explains it

>>41407692
leftists worse than chuds telling directly to my face ywnbaw, to kill myself, or how they/conservatives call all trans people predators
lol, lmao even

I will make a small note that you mentioned having some sort of traumatized experience with whoever representing lefty values has interacted with you and that most likely has permanently shaped your perspectives on this whole field. But your described life is like a “leopards eating my face” moment about to unfold. good luck
Anonymous No.41407895 [Report] >>41408050 >>41412456
>>41407846
>”face eating leopards”
oh lovely someone who gets their world view from john oliver
>chuds telling directly to my face ywnbaw, to kill myself, or how they/conservatives call all trans people predators
this would all be solved instantly if AGPs were removed from the “trans” label. AGPs are legitimately predators, i know because i got raped by *three* of them in my early transition years. and no, they are not women. they are openly fetishistic & make their entire existence revolve around talking about & using their “girlcock”. they aren’t women. if you want those stereotypes to go away, then you have to make them untrue. and they are untrue if the label of “trans” is only applied to the people it should be — not AGPs
>does not give a shit about anyone that isn’t white
not true some of my most beloved people are Black & Latina i just think the term “american” needs a clearly defined definition just like “transsexual”. when you let anyone & everyone in, it loses meaning & collapses
Anonymous No.41407936 [Report] >>41407961
>>41404822 (OP)
That's a lot of words fren, are you sure you're not a leftist?

My advice is to run far far away from anyone "supporting" you. You're not a transsexual, nobody is, you're just another fool wishing on a shooting star. Don't believe the lie that people can change gender, save yourself.
Anonymous No.41407961 [Report] >>41408086
>>41407936
i’m correcting my sex, not “changing my gender”. there’s a world of difference. my friends have had amazing results & i’m going to all the same surgeons as them so i know it will all work out for me
Anonymous No.41408050 [Report] >>41408322
>>41407895
>recounts horrifically being abused by trannies
yeah ok that’ll permanently color your view of both leftists, and why you subscribe to blanchardism. Outside of therapy (and even then) you’re pretty cemented in your view and I wouldn’t blame you for it due to that experience.

>american needs a clear definition
>i have plenty of token friends
gagged at your “but im not racist i have minority friends” comment. You seem to also be alluding what exactly you want to define an american without out right saying what it is. It’s unironic when it’s also the nation of immigrants, where your ancestors or probably even immediate family were immigrants themselves, and yet you think an american should not clause the definition of “immigrant” in its title. Not to mention how much of the economy actually benefits from having immigrants work and contribute (and statistically they do pay taxes more than whatever your media consumption has you convinced otherwise). Or how tariffs just pass down to americans directly rather than actually having an impact on the countries they’re supposed to extort from. Or how unhinged it is to support an administration that continues to make a clown of its country, or avoids elephants in the room like bribery and Epstein files.

Its like a special kind of anti-intellectualism to have to not just avoid being a lefty but actively submit and support reicht-wing america.
Anonymous No.41408086 [Report] >>41408106 >>41408322
>>41407961
>there’s a word of difference
Fixed that for you.

People can't "correct their sex" either, it'd be better to keep your body intact and unmolested by current trends. Your future self will thank you.
Anonymous No.41408106 [Report]
>>41408086
>the current group OP identifies with
Anonymous No.41408178 [Report] >>41408322
>>41404822 (OP)
same, bestie
this shit is a curse I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, but for some reason they want it.
Anonymous No.41408322 [Report] >>41408373 >>41408772
>>41408050
again if i wanted to hear john oliver’s worldview, i would just watch his show lol
blanchardism is observable with the naked eye. it’s why a lot of people are able to recognize the difference even without knowing the terminology. even in the 1990s “married with children” pointed out the difference between the naturally feminine “gay” ones & the masculine obvious “straight” weirdos
>>41408086
i am a woman with a birth defect. trust me with all the physical, mental, & sexual abuse i suffered at the hands of AGPs during my early years, the people who prop up detrans grifters would pay me literal millions to tell my story. but i’m not a cosplaying fetishist, i’m a woman with a birth defect. there is no world where i ever “detrans” because that simply is not an option for me. i’m sure you’re a glowie who knows my story & my potential to cause chaos & division by telling it publicly (as i already have) but i will never, ever go down that route.
>>41408178
picrel is why they want it unfortunately. it all comes down to insanity caused by the left not allowing men to exist in their spaces so they go AGP
MWAHnon !!1RVnHvInU8k No.41408338 [Report]
>>41404822 (OP)
>transsexual
ok sissy
Anonymous No.41408363 [Report] >>41408431
>>41404822 (OP)
waaaaaahhhhhh im a shitty person and nobody wants to be around me waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh
Anonymous No.41408368 [Report] >>41408431
>>41404822 (OP)
you WILL suck ze gock
you WILL snort ze ket
you WILL retweet ze palestine gofundme scams
Anonymous No.41408373 [Report] >>41408431
>>41408322
it’s like reading when latino americans voted for djt and suddenly pikachu face’d when he began targetting their communities.
Anonymous No.41408431 [Report] >>41408445 >>41408539
>>41408363
you’re never winning an election again, you realize that right? the leech train of sitting at home on your parents’ income watching p*rn & playing discord is about to come to an end. we’re gonna deport so many illegals that you’re gonna be forced to get a job very soon. and ooooo you’ll have to deal with spooky strangers who might have different world views than your furry future mass shooter grooming discord :)
>>41408368
literally what it feels like. it’s so annoying
>>41408373
considering biden spent his term cementing picrel as the face of transgenderism in america i would not consider him a hero to my people exactly. democrats ruin our social image, republicans ruin our health care. that’s why i think transsexuals need to make friends with the far right (aka let the groyper boys wife us up) because it’s clear they’re going to be the ones holding power soon & it’s best we try to get a good name with them by freeing them from their inceldom before they take power.
Anonymous No.41408445 [Report] >>41408503
>>41408431
stay miserable and unloved, you deserve it
Anonymous !/Rain/OcS2 No.41408450 [Report] >>41408503
>>41404822 (OP)
if your political view consists of bootlicking ppl that want us dead and outlawed then dont be surprised that trans ppl hate you. this is some chickens for kfc tier shit
Anonymous No.41408503 [Report] >>41408540
>>41408445
are you able to tell me what specifically about what i said was incorrect in your view? or are you just petty & vindictive without substance
>>41408450
using the word “bootlicking” is all i need to know about whether or not you’re capable of having a rational conversation. prosperity can only come through law & order. we only dislike the current iteration of police because they enforce anarcho-tyranny rather than prosperity. this fact is something leftists can’t comprehend because you’re entire world views boils down to “you can’t tell me to get a job & mow the lawn dad”

this is getting off topic again btw. i’m still seeking advice about how i should go about finding a fulfilling social circle
Anonymous No.41408539 [Report] >>41408627
>>41408431
>awful people are in power therefore we should submit and even enslave ourselves to be their wives as to live inauthentic lives
hypocrite. transitions to be herself then suddenly proposes some of the most unamerican things to do rather than fight back. As others have hinted at, reap what you sew aunt becky
Anonymous No.41408540 [Report] >>41408627
>>41408503
you will never find a fulfilling social circle because you are an evil moron. it is impossible for you unless you change. you are living in the consequences of your own cruelty.
Anonymous No.41408556 [Report] >>41408627
i can not imagine being this fucking stupid
Anonymous No.41408627 [Report] >>41408677 >>41408812
>>41408539
trump & the israeli pedophile lobby are a mockery of genuine right wing nationalist values. groypers would correct this & bring prosperity back to america. therefore it would be wise for transsexuals to jump from the self destructing sinking ship of leftism & into the lifeboat of domestic marriage with these groypers, leaving the AGPs behind to fend for themselves (and they won’t because they’re too p*rn brained to exist in functioning society which is why they spend all day on discord grooming children into sexual degeneracy & mass shooter ideologies)
>>41408540
>>41408556
i appreciate the return to the topic at hand but name-calling isn’t productive. my lived experiences informed my world view. i cannot unsee or unfeel what i’ve seen & felt in my life. it would be doing myself & the world a disservice to be dishonest with myself about the implications of my experiences. i used to pretend to be a lefty to get ahead socially, but it’s exhausting. and when transitioning was supposed to be about “finally living authentically”, it seems backwards to start lying about other stuff
Anonymous No.41408677 [Report]
>>41408627
>genuinely believes she wouldn’t be one of the first minority groups to be exiled or executed under groyper rule.
You can see the leopards already nibbling at her face

>AGPs are all groomers, and into mass shooting
It’s like a woman raped by black men who then goes on to say all black people are savages, and unintelligent and should be rounded up. Your feelings towards trauma is valid but your blanket stereotyping is flawed and you’re unable to see the fault in your logic.
Anonymous No.41408691 [Report]
>>41404822 (OP)
sorry but right-wing "politics" is an illegitimate ideology predicated on faith and the rejection of evidence, reason, and reality itself and that's the reason it's used to attack people like you and why you will never be one of the good ones - it's literally just schoolyard bully logic and the cult always needs someone to make inferior or dangerous to put down and exclude

you will NEVER be one of the good ones, hon
Anonymous No.41408758 [Report] >>41408819 >>41408854 >>41408886
Yet another thread where people think being a tranny automatically means you have to support infinite third world immigration and communism and get rabidly upset when that's not the case.
Anonymous No.41408772 [Report]
>>41408322
Holy cope. Your body isn't a birth defect bro, you are your body.
Anonymous No.41408796 [Report]
Same, and I'm not even a fucking chud racist or anything, just not a fan of tankie and neolib policy
Anonymous No.41408812 [Report]
>>41408627
Are you retarded? Nick keeps swearing trans kids on every second fucking twitter post. His worldwiew has no place for trans people, and thankfully it will never gain genuine traction. You'd think he's controlled opposition the way he puts so much effort at making his movement look as unappealing as possible
Anonymous No.41408819 [Report] >>41408884
>>41408758
>downplays the argument
it’s more of why are you a tranny supporting a group that has your worse interests in mind? Not even talking about immigration or communist talking points, just straight up being a tranny and joining a group that not only religiously identifies you as a leper, but seeks to eradicate your presence from everyday life. Like at a bare minimum that would default the average tranny to pick a side that isn’t going to immediately hate crime them the moment the public can’t see them.
nazichan !!rTWjGfrXdpA No.41408854 [Report]
>>41408758
white tranners have nothing to lose but their chains and threads like this are proof
Anonymous No.41408884 [Report] >>41408929
>>41408819
Well there's hardly any alternative. Either you support groups/ideologies that want infinite third worlders and communism but they're willing to tolerate you as an aside, or you support groups that don't want to destroy the world but they don't like you. It's a hard situation to be in, of course, so it's only natural people will try to remediate their reputation with the second group.
Anonymous No.41408886 [Report] >>41408969 >>41409146
>>41408758
What do you have against third world trannies seeking survival? They're being abused in ICE facilities as we speak
Anonymous No.41408924 [Report]
>>41404822 (OP)
Unless you own a ton of capital, you probably are a leftist but don't know it yet.
Also leftists that "cultishly conform to a political ideology" are also not really conscious leftists either. They might consume leftist propaganda and beleive what they read superficially, but have not actually taken the time to analyze and understand what leftism is really about. You are kinda right to feel uneasy around these people; personally I think they're driven by idealism and are thus very easily manipulated.
Leftism should not feel like a religion.
Anonymous No.41408929 [Report] >>41408969
>>41408884
>they just don’t like you
>push for banning trans people from public restrooms, and access to HRT, on top of demonizing trans people as predators
>politicans actively called for the extinction of trans people
You’d have to really really be xenophobic towards immigrants to want to side with the conservative party
Anonymous No.41408938 [Report] >>41410835
>>41404822 (OP)
>I constantly call other trannies faketrans AGPs why don't they want to hang out with me???
Anonymous No.41408969 [Report] >>41410835
>>41408929
Yes, it sucks, but as I said, there's no real alternative that's not completely insane.
>>41408886
It's really disingenuous to pretend it's mostly lost trannies fleeing persecution and not working-age adult men there for criminal enterprises or to work as slaves to depress the job market for natives.
Anonymous No.41408985 [Report]
>>41404822 (OP)
being trans is being leftist, you just dont perform it, just like how you are a man but perform as a woman, feels bad man
Anonymous No.41408998 [Report]
>>41404848
>>41404895
You cry but this is actually good advice. Anything Lutheran and a handful of other denominations are fine with us queers. Church is the only place I have ever felt welcome to be both pro-life and trans. Maybe not so much my MRA leanings, but at least the guys seem to agree with me on the down low.
Anonymous No.41409146 [Report] >>41409789
>>41408886
I don’t care. Trannies are the least productive members of society, why should we import third world trannies to take what little good men are even available here? Go scream ayyy papi in Colombia bitch here we say ahhh daddy
Anonymous No.41409283 [Report]
>>41407674
>I'm not over 25
oh gotcha. I assumed because you were talking about your friends all getting married and having kids which I definitely associate with later 20s usually.
I think you'd still be surprised by how little people care if you just act like a normal person. I came out in my own fairly conservative community as a transsexual lesbian, and everyone is still friends with me because I'm just a normal person to be around. You seem to be struggling with the whole being normal thing given how obsessed you are with the evil woke left ruining your life, but I imagine if you don't talk about that all the time you'll probably be fine.
Find a community of people that gets together based around a shared hobby or something. Communities that are built around things other than just talking usually have to be a little more tolerant of a variety of backgrounds - so they tend to attract people who aren't so extreme as to break off budding friendships because of minor things like a medical condition or a different political view.
Separately from that, I know it's not what you want to hear, but trying to pursue being "one of the good ones" is a bottomless goal, and trying to achieve it by throwing others under the bus will only leave you alone at the end. Building community with other trans people is freeing. Not trying to argue with you, feel free to take it or leave it as a word of advice from a crazy old cat lady who's been down the road you're walking before.
Anonymous No.41409789 [Report] >>41410187
>>41409146
>least productive
>trannies fill the brim in CompSci and STEM fields if they’re not making millions off OF

>third world trannies will take away good men
>good men would’ve already filled the positions needed, and it’s already proven with the removal of immigrants that “good men” either don’t qualify or don’t want to fill the positions that immigrants do

>in america we speak english
>america is not a country of immigrants?
>???

Flyover state iq poster
Anonymous No.41410067 [Report] >>41410100 >>41411807
>>41404822 (OP)
>>41405047
People like you are so fucking retarded. You know that everyone even a little right of center think you're a disgusting abomination, right? Every single RW guy is going to think of you as a "boywife", because that's what you technically are to them...a boy. You will never be a girl to them.

So, you have two options, either understand why the left believes what they believe, including thinking of trans women as women, or find a closeted rw rapist that's going to fuck your "boipusssy" every night. Retard.

t.cis guy
Anonymous No.41410100 [Report] >>41410202
>>41410067
>either understand why the left believes what they believe
nta, but I understand why they believe it, but knowing why doesn't change that they're wrong.
Anonymous No.41410157 [Report] >>41410912 >>41412456
>>41405469
Srs is actual vagina and I am also tired of you gay men coming here to force your shitter sex on transsexuals.
My sex life is fine, my pussy looks real and I love having piv.
Anonymous No.41410174 [Report]
>>41405580
>Trans women can learn deep pelvic muscle control to rhythmically contract the canal and gently hug the penis.
Every woman with a vag can do that, learn biology
Anonymous No.41410187 [Report] >>41410264
>>41409789
>thinking 3rd world trannies are contributing to tech
>thinking working uber eats is a good position
>retard reddit infinite illegals babble
>coast faggot
Anonymous No.41410202 [Report] >>41410287
>>41410100
though there’s plenty to criticize the left about, I’ve not ever seen the right be the champion of evidence based science, or not be entirely influenced by Christian dogma as justification for the majority of their actions while unironically being unchrist-like, or aggressively divisive towards neighboring americans.

Anecdotally, hearing people say “I know why but they’re wrong still” usually follows the flowchart of “my religion says so”, or “my flawed evidence says so”, while also avoiding any motivation to question, learn, and remove misinformation.
Anonymous No.41410264 [Report] >>41410365 >>41410400
>>41410187
>moves the goalpost from trannies in general to third world trannies “are useless”
>also ignores the majority of tech support/remote work that is constantly offshored to countries like India, Philippines, Bangladesh
>thinking majority of “good men” are dying to work as an uber eats when the positions has negligible consequence being filled by an immigrant
>still a hard racist unaware of the irony when he’s a citizen of the country of immigrants
>still hasn’t completed a GED
Anonymous No.41410287 [Report] >>41410490
>>41410202
I'm not a proponent of either the American left or right, anon, I just have strong opposition to the issues the left champions to the exclusion of all else, like open immigration. I'm not going to justify anything under "Jesus says" or whatever.
Anonymous No.41410365 [Report] >>41410490
>>41410264
>he’s a citizen of the country of immigrants
*European immigrants.
Anonymous No.41410400 [Report] >>41410433
>>41410264
>we need to stop importing 3rd worlders, especially trannies, they are unproductive
>uhh ur moving the goalposts for fixating on 3rd world trannies
kys retard

>h1b propagandist/normie who has obviously never worked with jeets
lmfao how are you real?

>bunch of retarded babble I CBA to even read since I have a masters and work in tech and am far too succesful and exposed to ‘do the needfuls’ to have patience to explain this to a poo licking moron
Anonymous No.41410417 [Report] >>41411647
>>41404822 (OP)
>late transitioner
>conservative
many such cases!
don't call yourself an actual transsexual hon, actual transsexuals are on the juice long before you were
when john 50s aren't actively against our rights it's fine to be nice to them but when you're a conservative you're actively preventing youth from achieving a happy life so any evil action is morally acceptable against you
sage No.41410433 [Report] >>41410452
>>41410400
>deflects
>CBA to read yet wastes his time here
>totally has a masters and is successful in life
Would you like to subscribe to weekly fairytales given your love for fiction?
Anonymous No.41410452 [Report] >>41410755
>>41410433
I’m working on the company wide AWS IAD LSE right now idc if you care you poojeet barefootlicker
Anonymous No.41410490 [Report] >>41410554
>>41410287
Open immigration hasn't been an American policy in over a century anon...
>>41410365
And African and hispanic and Asian...
Anonymous No.41410543 [Report]
Don't socialize with people purely or even somewhat based on politics? Don't just talk about politics all the time? It's really not that hard. I have friends who are hard leftists, hard right wing, and plenty between all of that, doesn't bother me or them. But also engaging in any sort of politicial dialogue with friends or associates in the current year is just an exercise in futility and frustration. Every fucking one has some kind of brainrot or insanity. People are too far gone in that regard, best to socially distance from it.
Anonymous No.41410554 [Report] >>41410701 >>41410709 >>41410841
>>41410490
>Open immigration hasn't been an American policy in over a century anon...
That's irrelevant when the border is barely controlled and anyone who can get across it is just allowed here to stay indefinitely as long as they're willing to work as a slave. It is effectively open immigration regardless of what the law says, because the law isn't enforced.
>And African
Forced enslavement isn't immigration.
>Hispanic
Didn't build this country and contributed nothing to it except voluntary slave labor in the last century. The guy who came here illegally and grew avocados contributed nothing to the country other than driving wages down so poor Americans could no longer work as farmhands.
>Asian
Recent phenomenon that didn't build this country whatsoever.
Anonymous No.41410701 [Report] >>41410959
>>41410554
>Recent phenomenon
have you not made it there in history class yet?
Anonymous No.41410709 [Report] >>41410959
>>41410554
So, Africans were sold to permanently live in America, are you high?
sage No.41410755 [Report] >>41411095
>>41410452
>wants us to believe he’s working hard and not jerkin time off here
Please add a bit more embellishment, it really draws out the intellect and maturity in your posts
Anonymous No.41410835 [Report] >>41410961
>>41408938
/thread
op just hates most trans people regardless of politics but is making the thread about muh hecking political tolerance

>>41408969
>work as slaves to depress the job market
oy vey not the hecking tomato picking jobs geg. i could understand if you are talking about tech, but the trump administration is pro h1b visa because of course they are
Anonymous No.41410841 [Report] >>41410959
>>41410554
>is just allowed here to stay indefinitely as long as they're willing to work as a slave. It is effectively open immigration
>Forced enslavement isn't immigration.
honestly its nice when people blatantly out themselves as stupid like this so you no longer have to take a single thing they say seriously
Anonymous No.41410897 [Report] >>41411647
>>41404822 (OP)
adopt leftist politics and help your community
>i feel like i shouldn't be forced to
no one's forcing you to socialize with anyone, and no one has to stick around to listen to your hurtful opinions after you give them
ffs why hasn't the freeze peaches party figured this out yet
Anonymous No.41410912 [Report] >>41410930
>>41410157
Lie to yourself all you want, but lying to the community is fucked up. SRS is a horror show for everyone involved, nobody should EVER get it done. EVER.
Anonymous No.41410930 [Report]
>>41410912
as a based white nationalist I approve this message
Anonymous No.41410959 [Report] >>41410965 >>41410972 >>41411061
>>41410701
Oh that one railroad. Hey fun fact, they were used specifically because the unionized American workers wanted higher pay. Gosh, isn't it great when you can import slave labor to destroy worker's rights?
>>41410841
Voluntary enslavement is indeed a thing. They come here knowing what it'll be like. Indentured servitude is what it's called when there's a time limit on it. Meanwhile if you're bought outright and brought here outside of your own will, that's something else entirely.
>>41410709
Wow that's totally the same thing as modern immigration issues.
Anonymous No.41410961 [Report] >>41410982 >>41411017
>>41410835
>oy vey not the hecking tomato picking jobs geg
Poor Americans exist. What kind of jobs do you think they should work? They need these low level labor industries, else you end up with criminals and the homeless.
Anonymous No.41410965 [Report]
>>41410959
>immigrants built America
<ok well not in the modern way!
try harder
Anonymous No.41410972 [Report] >>41410983
>>41410959
>Wow that's totally the same thing as modern immigration issues.
slavery plummets native wages to 0 and slaves get bred en mass to meet industrial demand
Anonymous No.41410978 [Report] >>41410984
Why are all the rightoids focused on the srs tho lmao. All gocksucking chasers?
Anonymous No.41410982 [Report] >>41411001
>>41410961
can you give any evidence it's hard to get a job picking crops?
Anonymous No.41410983 [Report] >>41411048
>>41410972
Yes, slavery is bad, that's why we shouldn't import any.
Anonymous No.41410984 [Report]
>>41410978
cocksucking anti-srs leftists are itt pretending to be chuds
Anonymous No.41411001 [Report] >>41411020
>>41410982
Can I link any right wing news source without you discrediting it? Because farmers complaining they need slave labor or they're not profitable, and that scandal where they were only listing job openings in fucking local newspapers, is not exactly secret.
Anonymous No.41411017 [Report] >>41411038
>>41410961
somehow doubt most of those people are itching to pick cotton in the hot sun
Anonymous No.41411020 [Report]
>>41411001
no is the answer i expected lol
Anonymous No.41411038 [Report] >>41411047
>>41411017
Nobody is itching to work labor jobs. Saying those jobs have poor conditions though is a really shitty way to try to excuse importing slaves. "Oh no anon you don't get it, we need to import slaves to work in the burning hot sun from dawn to dusk for $3 an hour." Yeah anon what a great leftist you are, you love those workers. The point is that the pay and the conditions should be improved such that it's worth it for Americans who NEED work. These people have to be employed, importing foreigners isn't helping them, it's helping rich oligarchs who own these megacorp farms (which is most farms in fact.)
Anonymous No.41411047 [Report] >>41411094
>>41411038
nobody said they shouldn't be given a fair wage. give them papers so they can't be abused.
Anonymous No.41411048 [Report]
>>41410983
i agree but that doesnt refute the original anon's point. personally i think the real solution to the immigration problem would require much more forward-planning than western governments are realistically capable of
Anonymous No.41411061 [Report] >>41411094
>>41410959
they still built america. capitalists will abuse immigrants as long as there are tiered workers.
Anonymous No.41411094 [Report] >>41411137 >>41411177
>>41411047
If you do that, then they will legally work the same wages as Americans with the same protections. Those companies and oligarchs don't want that because the point is slaves. But even if they let you do that, you're suddenly met with the raw fact that there are only so many farms to work on. All those illegals are competing with Americans for limited jobs still, as before. But now everyone knows that if you invade the US you get to become a citizen for free, no questions asked. So why wouldn't the entire world come to the US? There's no incentive not to. And where will we house them, and with what would we feed them, what jobs will they work?
>>41411061
They who, anon?
Anonymous No.41411095 [Report]
>>41410755
you talk like a typical autismo but here’s the proof
Anonymous No.41411113 [Report] >>41411129 >>41411458
>>41404822 (OP)
ugly as fuck old hon but I completely agree with you. it is maddening how the leftist (anarchists/communists) have totally taken over, totally made being transexual about being queer.

Im not a leftist, Im not queer, I have just felt that I have been born into the wrong sex my entire life and im finally doing something about it. I want to explore this and get through this with out having to frame everything through a woke ideology.
Anonymous No.41411129 [Report]
>>41411113
dont say you are an ugly old hon you retard
Anonymous No.41411137 [Report] >>41411227
>>41411094
>capitalists are evil, don't you get it?
Uh yeah. I don't worship them unlike rightoids. Trump brought us a recession, but there are still plenty of crop picker jobs available for $15+ per hour. You and almost everyone just finds that type of labor undesirable.
>what jobs will they do?
The ones Americans don't want to.
Anonymous No.41411177 [Report] >>41411227
>>41411094
>And where will we house them, and with what would we feed them, what jobs will they work?
if they cant find these things anymore they wouldnt immigrate in the first place. if they can get jobs, then they are paying taxes and there will be demand to build more houses and industry should develop in response to this. moreover if the us stops sabotaging random countries, there will be less immigration that was well. you are creating an imagined scenario where suddenly 8 billion people are in the us out of nowhere but there is cause, effect, and feedback
Anonymous No.41411227 [Report] >>41411288 >>41411313 >>41411328
>>41411137
And I don't consider myself a right-winger. I didn't vote for Trump. So you can shit on him all you want, it's not going to bother me.
>There are still plenty
A screenshot of indeed doesn't serve as a good source of national trends, anon. Especially with that scandal over fake job listings.
>The ones Americans don't want to
Because they pay less than minimum wage, or if they're listed anywhere legally, around minimum wage, which is criminally low in most of the US and far below what it's possible for anyone to live off of because real wages in the US have been frozen since around the 70's despite inflation continuing to skyrocket. You can say 'capitalists are evil' but you never name why or what they're doing that's evil, while you continue to champion one of the evil things they do.
>>41411177
>if they cant find these things anymore they wouldnt immigrate in the first place
Not so when the third world is even worse in all of this. Being homeless in the US or living 20 people to a two-bedrom shitshack is still better than living in a Mexican slum. That's the sad truth of it. They don't need GOOD living standards to come here, just better ones than exist for them at home. The fact that they'll regress poor American's living standards by consequence doesn't matter to them, nor really should it. It should matter to the Americans, however.
>There'll be demand to build more houses
Not so, most housing in America is controlled by a small group of companies who collude to keep housing prices high and construction low, because banks and boomers have turned real estate into a stock market.
>Industry
There's only so much crop land or resources, anon. We live in a world with scarcity, you can't scale farms up infinitely.
>The US should stop sabotaging random countries
Absolutely. But that's an unrelated to issue on whether immigration should be controlled or not. Both these things should be done.
Anonymous No.41411240 [Report]
>>41404822 (OP)
Develop empathy
Anonymous No.41411288 [Report]
>>41411227
What is your evidence there are almost no crop picker job openings? No answer I'll take as a total concession. I have kept on saying tiered workers are bad lol. Your shadowboxing can use some work.
Anonymous No.41411313 [Report] >>41411328 >>41411437
>>41411227
>real wages in the US have been frozen since around the 70's
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/americans-wages-are-higher-than-they-have-ever-been-and-employment-is-near-its-all-time-high/
Anonymous No.41411328 [Report] >>41411388 >>41411393
>>41411227
>Being homeless in the US or living 20 people to a two-bedrom shitshack is still better than living in a Mexican slum
i dont think being homeless with no job is better than living in the third world no. at some point mexicans could might as well move to brazil or some shit. maybe there will still be some people coming in but the amount would be much less than b4
>most housing in America is controlled by a small group of companies
not an immigration problem
>There's only so much crop land or resources, anon
we are no way near reaching capacity for this and plenty of food is imported from various places
>But that's an unrelated to issue on whether immigration should be controlled or not
it is related because immigration is just a microcosm of a larger issue. the real problem is capitalism and the fact that corporations dont give a shit about humanity not to talk of their fellow country men, and that the west has contributed to keeping everywhere else shit making people want to abandon where they live despite the fact that they obviously have closer cultural ties to their home countries. you are not going to get 8 billion immigrants if you address these problems. it's like if there is a fire in your backyard and you buy an air filter in response like

>>41411313
now compare to inflation, but anyways this isnt simply an issue of immigration but surplus value extraction
Anonymous No.41411333 [Report] >>41411388
>>41404822 (OP)
Just don't talk politics dumbass. It's literally that easy.

>b-b-but politics always comes up!
Talk to people who aren't boring losers then retard.
Anonymous No.41411345 [Report]
>>41404947
>i literally got interrogated yesterday for not ever laughing at my friends’ “trump fascist” jokes
Stop hanging out with people who have nothing going on in their lives.
Anonymous No.41411388 [Report]
>>41411328
>now compare to inflation
>>41411333
This. The vast majority of people don't even pretend to pay attention to politics beyond posting a black square or saying how Kirk didn't deserve to die for his words (he did tho).
Anonymous No.41411393 [Report] >>41411463
>>41411328
>not an immigration problem
My point is that mass-immigration is a problem created by the same group that's creating these other problems, which is why simply allowing/accepting mass-immigration won't solve these other problems. That's the point, you can't fix the housing market while keeping mass immigration because the people who want mass immigration also want the housing market fucked. We agree, more or less, on the root cause, but the difference is that I think it's worth regulating and solving a symptom (immigration) on the way to dealing with the cause, whereas you want to let the wound fester for moral reasons until/if the cause can be dealt with.
Anonymous No.41411428 [Report] >>41411647
>>41404822 (OP)
Omg, this is wife material, I'm rooting for you girl, I hope that you will live a happy and long life! HSTS are so cute and pure, please never listen to ogrehon rapebians, don't get brainwormed. I can feel your woman energy, ygmi, just follow your female intuition.
>t.white, cis, hetero, male
Anonymous No.41411437 [Report] >>41411492
>>41411313
Never mind that this lumps the top in with the bottom which drags the average up. If one guy makes 12 million a year and nine others 20k, the average wage is over 1.2 million. Looks great on a report, has zero effect on the 90% living near the poverty line.
Anonymous No.41411458 [Report]
>>41411113
>common oldshit tranny w
Anonymous No.41411463 [Report]
>>41411393
>you want to let the wound fester for moral reasons until/if the cause can be dealt with
i want people to understand the main problem instead of cheering on right wing politicians that will just privatize everything and make the core problem way worse just because they maybe deal with a peripheral issue. im personally not super pro-immigration or anything and desu my own country should probably lower immigration, but im not going to be "right wing" just because of that
Anonymous No.41411492 [Report] >>41411519
>>41411437
Do you have any evidence the difference was median was higher back then?
Anonymous No.41411519 [Report]
>>41411492
>difference was
remove these words
Anonymous No.41411647 [Report]
>>41410417
i transitioned at 20 lol i wasn’t late
>>41410897
i’m not a politician though it doesn’t matter what my stances are. the things i believe in aren’t even really an option at the ballot box. i think my leftist friends have really bad & harmful beliefs but they’re still my friends. i don’t know why they can loudly shout their opinions but i always have to walk on eggshells not to offend them
>>41411428
thank youuuuu <3
Anonymous No.41411807 [Report] >>41411908
>>41410067
this is literally just emotional blackmail to try to force me to support terrible policies lol. you get so angry when a member of a minority group steps outside of the boxes you try to set us up inside of to reliably vote for your side. you can’t bully me into supporting your ideology
Anonymous No.41411908 [Report] >>41415013
>>41411807
where’s the lie?
Carina !!dVOJSaAUJLJ No.41412456 [Report] >>41415013
>>41404822 (OP)
>autogynephiles & all the clear negative weirdness that they cause
>actual transsexuals like me

>>41404947
>i’m not a crossdressing agp

>>41405042
>wanting to have actual sex instead of disgusting anal cope

>>41405140
>they’ve been taught to conflate AGPs with us

>>41405283
>there are plenty of gay men out there you can have sex with if sticking your dick inside of an asshole means that much to you
>AGPs ruined the reputation of transsexuals and forced those of us who are legitimately just women

>>41405438
>there’s been an organized conspiracy to co-opt us with a foreign group (AGPs)

>>41407674
>autogynephilia and modern trans ideology
>i have zero community with AGPs

>>41407692
>i’m literally not like the AGPs though. actual transsexual brain structures do not even match with AGPs

>>41407895
>this would all be solved instantly if AGPs were removed from the “trans” label. AGPs are legitimately predators
>no, they are not women

>>41410157
>tired of you gay men coming here to force your shitter sex on transsexuals.

Found the problem; you're just fucking insufferable to everyone around you. No, wanting srs DOESN'T make you more trans or others less, the one's who don't are just as trans as you are(likely more, based on your behavior). NO, agps are NOT some boogeyman that walks among the transgender community (not even real). No, calling yourself 'transsexual' instead of transgender does not distinguish you from transgenders in any way.
Anonymous No.41412475 [Report] >>41415013
>>41405438
If that's true then why did you make this thread asking about what to do about having no friends and no one to socialize with?

No one transphobic will socialize with you you dumb tranny and we all know it. Stop coping.
Anonymous No.41412842 [Report] >>41415013
>>41407674
desu i feel like the times where i was most outspoken against AGPs were when i was most insecure about myself, and they were also a target i could displace my anxieties about living in a transphobic and misogynistic culture onto.

same with being right wing, which i 100% did to overcompensate for being trans and distance myself from trans activism. e.g., my father is a QAnon boomer and for a while i would become mecha hitler when i talked to him about politics, and it really came from a place of insecurity, self-hatred, and wanting to make sure he knew i was a womxn and not a woke lib having a mental breakdown or whatever.

so idk, just food for thought. from your posts it sounds like this is more personal than just politics. maybe it's not, but i relate to what you're saying a lot and can't help but project. it sounds like you are very intelligent and pretty, and you deserve to be confident and successful.

t. planning to start attending mass again once i can get ffs and can stop worrying about being denied communion or smth
Anonymous No.41415013 [Report] >>41415498 >>41415515
>>41411908
they don’t want trans people to die they want us to be normal lol. which apparently the idea of being normal is akin to genocide to AGPs
>>41412456
aren’t you a fucking “boymoder”? you don’t have any experience living as a woman or a trans woman, shoo
>>41412475
well yea i’m gonna go stealth next year presumably but idk what to do between now and then
>>41412842
it’s hard to not be insecure about being trans when most people currently shoved into the “trans” label are fucking embarrassing to be forced & associated with
Carina !!dVOJSaAUJLJ No.41415498 [Report]
>>41415013
>aren’t you a fucking “boymoder”?
Actually no I'm fucking not you dipshit.
Anonymous No.41415515 [Report]
>>41415013
>it’s hard to not be insecure about being trans when most people currently shoved into the “trans” label are fucking embarrassing to be forced & associated with

idk anonette. i met my cis bf through our transbian mutual friend and it's very obvious to him that we're doing two completely different things. the same is true of my other cis friends who have met some of the transbians i know or are aware of people like lilytino. like you are your own person, you know?

i really do get it, and desu will still say a lot of the same stuff you are when i get drunk lol. and fwiw i've also experienced how predatory that community can be.

but like at some point you need to be comfortable enough with yourself to acknowledge that you read as a woman, these people are doing something completely different from you, and move on. transbians aren't the reason you're uncomfortable with yourself. and, even if some are out there actively and loudly damaging optics, they're not responsible for transphobia either.
Anonymous No.41416499 [Report] >>41418602
>>41404947
trump is obviously a quasi-fascist and fascism actually is a bad thing. only thing worse is national socialism
Anonymous No.41418602 [Report]
>>41416499
i am literally in favor of national socialism lol. democracy does not work in america. it’s just an oligarchy of people who work against the interest of the people