Thread 41410900

Can two people with penises be lesbians?
Can two people with vaginas be gay men?

no
no

>>41410900 (OP)
>Using TERF as a slur is unlawful hate speech.
I don't know what orwellian shithole you come from, but in the US, hate speech laws are in violation of the first ammendment and thus unconstitutional.

Supporting free speech means supporting the right of others to say things that may deeply offend you. You can have your commie bullshit if you want, but don't try serving me shit and telling me it's ice cream.

>>41411003
rights are never absolute

>>41411042
Explain what you mean.

In the broad strokes, I agree that rights need to be demarcated. If, for example, we aren't able to say what is and isn't free speech, then anyone could defend any action, from robbery to rape, under the pretense that it's free speech. But at the same time, if you set the legal bounds of what is protected under such and such right too narrowly, you might as well not have it at all.

The question, really, should be "why does this exist as a legally protected right?" In the case of freedom of speech, it is to 1. allow for a "free market of ideas", where potentially controversial opinions are still allowed to be shared and discussed, and 2. make public sentiment known, so that politicians are motivated to be responsive to their constituents wants and needs. With this in mind, most "hate speech", including slurs like TERF, should absolutely be protected under freedom of speech, no matter how much you personally find it offensive.

>>41411224
rights have limits to protect people
for instance, you cannot bring a gun into the Supreme Court

>>41410900 (OP)
This Is Unreadable
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But They Are Too Busy Taking Pakistani Dick

>>41411232
>rights have limits to protect people
This is true, to an extent.
>for instance, you cannot bring a gun into the Supreme Court
Sure, but we still allow people to own guns to begin with, don't we? No matter how threatening you may find it, the word TERF alone, or even a phrase like "I'm going to kill JK Rowling because she's a TERF", is not enough of a credible threat to anyone in specific that it outweighs the benefits of allowing people to say it. If it was, Sam Hyde would be in jail right now because he jokingly threatened Hasan Piker. A major goal of free speech is to make people's beliefs know. Stopping people from calling others TERFs doesn't eliminate the thoughts and feelings that lead someone to use a word like TERF, it just obfuscates them.

>>41410900 (OP)
yes to both and both are hot

If it's okay to exclude males from female spaces, then it's also okay to exclude females from male spaces.

No using the male restroom just because the line for the female restroom is too long for your liking.

No joining male-only clubs just because you're insecure and paranoid about what males discuss in them.

No becoming bishops just because you think it's unfair that the Almighty decreed that males should lead and females should obey.

>>41411695
Why do you people always need to bring religion into it? I could post pictures of cute cats and you'd tell me that god thw almighty holy ah men dab three times to prove your loyalty prefers dogs.

>>41411460
homophobe

>>41411715
because trannies are obsessed with irrational thought

>>41411460
liar!

no and NO

>>41410900 (OP)
I don't think it matters as long as they love each other

>>41410900 (OP)
Lesbian = homosexual AFaB
Pretty shrimple

There's not many of them and most are likely just political lesbians anyway, meaning they have pretty standard AFaB situational/mercenary "sexuality".

>>41410900 (OP)
get back to crystal cafe

>>41410900 (OP)
No
No
Only lesbians with vaginas can be lesbians just like only gay men with penises can be gay

>>41414128
give us back ovarit

>>41410900 (OP)
Idk man I’m a rightwing cisgay and even I’m tired. I just can’t believe that genitals are some absolute defining feature of gender—even if I would personally only date someone with a penis.

What if a cis man got his penis destroyed by an explosion? What if a cis man or woman went through bottom surgery? What are intersex people?

I think the sad but also liberating truth is that, by and large, you are whatever gender enough people agree you are. It’s just a language game, like deciding what is or isn’t a “sandwich,” or what constitutes “reasonable.”

So if you pass as a MTF, then you are a woman. If you pass as a FTM, then you are a man. If you don’t pass, then don’t get uppity when people “misgender” you—they aren’t.

>>41414160
BASED

>>41414125
political lesbians are not a real thing

>>41411042
hate speech is protected in the US howeverbleit, TERFnigger
See? I just called you a TERF and a nigger, this is completely legal in the US.

I am a man, I love gooning to gay porn. Feminist bitches want to take my porn away because "muh misogyny" even doe there is no women in it. I say kill ALL feminist foidholes so we can goon in peace.

>>41414531
>I say kill ALL feminist foidholes so we can goon in peace.
based

>>41414531
Feminists hate that they cannot control gay men.

>>41414338
there are definitely bi girls that swear off men for like a year, then they learn what dating women is like and pull a Grandpa Simpson 360-and-walk-the-fuck-out

>>41414840
people with same sex attraction repressing it isn't a political state, its a reflection of a hostile social climate

>>41414881
Suppose that's true
More of a sex war than anything

>>41414312
look at that! there, up above! its a truth nuclear bomb.

>>41414565
Yes you can, take away their prep and they all die in few years of some new std

>>41417383
people assume women have no agency and thus cannot create a hostile social climate

>>41410900 (OP)
who gives a fuck honestly

>>41417736
well, people often say "how can trans people be homophobic"
well, that's how
they believe gays don't exist and that straight people can become gay by self castration

>>41414565
yup

>>41410900 (OP)
>>41410945
Why did you reply to yourself?
And why does your meme need so many words?

>>41417861
Nope! faghags are a thing.

>>41417876
that's not a respectful relationship of equals

no + no

>>41417612
Luckily it’s men who actually invent, fund, and control things like pharmaceuticals. Women take from systems, men pay into them.

As a result, it’s much easier and likelier for feminists to be controlled than vice versa. Just take away their birth control and see how they screech. The difference between red-state and blue-state maternal mortality is really quite shocking. Hopefully it doesn’t increase more. :)

>>41414312
Thank you for your solidarity brother.

I used to cringe and be vehemently against it but ever since I detrooned I just dont agree. honestly if they pass then yes