Thread 41446399

Do trans women deserve to be treated the same as biological, natal females are?

but gender is constant and sex is changeable

>>41446448
>sex is changeable

>>41446466
yes, many sex traits are changeable while gender identity is not

>>41446475
>many sex traits are changeable
produce female gametes

>>41446399 (OP)
>Do trans women deserve to be treated the same as biological, natal females are?
If they pass and aren't sex offenders then yes.

>>41446496
>If they pass

>>41446480
but if I say "many female women don't produce gametes"
you're going to say "actually it's biological pathways not gametes"
and then I'll say "but you said it was gametes before, and pathways aren't binary and also are changeable"
and it'll just generally be a big waste of time because you're going to just switch your definition over and over to try to get to a point where it's purely binary and unchangeable (which is impossible because you're wrong) and then you'll just stop replying
so this is really just a big waste of time

>>41446530
>trannies have a coherent definition of womanhood apart from "anyone who feels like a woman"
you PERSONALLY do not produce female gametes because you are male

>>41446565
trannies are women when their collection of sex traits is close enough to the average collection of sex traits women have and far enough from the average collection of sex traits men have
in fact this is a much more coherent definition because it's inclusive of infertile women and intersex women, while your definition is not
see >>41446530
>"many female women don't produce gametes"

>>41446448
TRUKEEEEE

>>41446597
>is close enough
arbitrary distinction

trans women are men
normal average typical generic male men
you are not women at fucking all, you are just liars

>>41446622
>arbitrary distinction
yes, all sex definition is arbitrary and circular
it is impossible to define "male" as anything other than "has the traits indicated as being male"
unfortunately you don't actually care about the truth, you think you can just pick and choose meanings to get the outcomes you want, no matter how incoherent your definition actually is with all its necessary exceptions

>>41446647
I go off of my perception, and my perception perceives what you call "trans women" as men larping in dresses with makeup on their faces.
You will never beat me into submission.

>>41446658
>You will never beat me into submission.
who talked about beating?
keep your fetishes out of this please
go off of your perception if you like, the outcome will be that you see passing trannies as women and sometimes cis women as men
and you're free to do that

>>41446670
its a metaphor for your attempt to mentally browbeat me into accepting your contradictory patently false gender ideology

no

>>41446399 (OP)
No they should at best be treated as lesser women.

>>41446565
circular argument tho since that definition is what u opened up to be challenged, u realize that right?
at the very least it proves the other anons claim
>so this is really just a big waste of time

>>41448410
trans women are women

>>41446399 (OP)
>socially
Yes
>judicially
Yes
>medically
Yes, only divergence is for reproductive medicine, till uterus transplants become a thing ofc

It's the only scientific way of viewing this shit

>>41448431
>>41446399 (OP)
your discomfort and hatred of being male does not a female make

>>41448440
>socially
yayyy females have to accept any porn addict who says hes a lesbian
>judically
yayy lily orchard jessica yaniv and other sex offender troons are just women fooling around
>medically
yayyy you will never get a prostate exam (which you need) and will receive treatment for problems you will never have

>>41448447
But altering your body and appearance to fit within the female schema does

>>41448463
>retard doesn't understand what "reproductive medicine" is
Your opinions are hereby discarded, please go back to school kid

>>41448463
>yayyy you will never get a prostate exam (which you need)
Males who have had an orchi will never, ever get prostate cancer.

>>41448447
only if you hate being a male a LOT, then it does

>>41448465
thats chasing a possibility with 0.1% of succeeding. seems like self harm to me
>>41448477
remind me when you need to be “medically treated like a woman” at ur prostate exam

>>41448463
Bet you are brown

>>41448518
Yeah anon does sound brown. Either brown or British.

>>41448490
it really doesnt :((

>>41448518
bet you look like this

>>41448525
You realize we have those removed, right?

>>41448514
>still doesn't understand reproductive medicine
lmao

>>41448549
real women have never played with their balls and have no idea what its like

real women never have had an erection

real women were once little girls and baby girls

real women dont try to be women , because we already are in all sense of the word historically and objectively

get real :))

>>41448581
Good lord how third world are you. Please stop abusing your internet privileges.

>>41448581
>real women have never played with their balls and have no idea what its like
Saar empathy isn't just emotions on a surface level, you can easily related to senses without experiencing them yourself
>real women never have had an erection
Lmao virgin (probably from Bangalore) detected
>real women were once little girls and baby girls
Saar do the needful
>real women dont try to be women , because we already are in all sense of the word historically and objectively
"We", you saar are not a woman if you don't know about your own fucking erections lmao

>get real :))
Says the indian pretending to be a cis f online lmao

>>41448463
How many times have you been raped today?

>>41448514
>muh prostate
You realize that can get removed? It isnt, because it is a pleasure spot in many but you aren't going to keel over if someone touches it with a scalpel

>>41448601
btw lashing out like this just makes you more obviously male. also, are cities in the usa third world now?

>>41448603
aww moid mad :(((

>>41448646
reminder of picrel

>>41448697
>are cities in the usa third world now?
They have been for decades, yeah. You have to go back.

>>41448697
>moid mad
Based trans affirmation
You don't know about the parasympatic reaction in the clitroal tissue, you don't know what reproductive medicine is
What exactly do you even know lmao

Someone call an ICE raid on this bish.

>>41448697
Not a trans woman :)
Hit the soft spot, it seems
Was it actual rape or you regretting sex after being drunk? :))

>Saar lost his microsoft license
sad!

Transgenerism is an ideology used by evil spirits to spread. Reach spiritual enlightenment and you will understand.