Thread 41576006

This guide assumes two things, first you are a cis hetero Male with a pre trt ftm partner in a monogamous relationship. Your goal is that you want to have a regular relationship but for whatever reason have found yourself with a woman suffering from tranny mind virus (tmv), thankfully this is reversible and might not leave long lasting physical effects if we are preop and pre trt. Please use discretion as though many ftm will be thankful you cured them some are terminal and will only hate you for trying to help.
>(groundwork)
The number one key to this is like all manipulation of an individual by a loved one. isolation and dependency. This leaves the ftm particularly vulnerable especially in areas where there exists a strong anti trans sentiment. The more she feels like you are her only option the better. A large number of trans men are still hetero or bisexual. This can be easily exploited by simply validating her identity. At this stage do not be afraid to call her by her made up name and her chosen identity (be it a trans man, none binary, attack helicopter, etc etc)earn her trust and make her feel loved and respected and validated in her identity, the more she draws her sense of identity from your validation the easier it will be to peel it away. Minimize friendships with anybody who might validate her besides you, make sure she isn't catching wind of the fact you are trying to isolate her from other lgbt people.
>(Intermediate)
Now that her sense of identity is tied to your validation as a partner the next step is to make it her own idea to detrans. Never confront her or give her ultimatums about giving up tranny mind virus. She needs to see its what you want and do it out of a sense of guilt/shame/fear of abandonment. The key is not making it obvious. Use her dead name around your mutual friends, tell people you are either not in a relationship or refer to her as your girlfriend to strangers while mutual friends are around. (continued )

>>41576006 (OP)
Are you satan? Why would you ever do this to someone just date a cis chick? Also that relationship is just doomed to fail. What is wrong with some people

>>41576006 (OP)
If confronted at this stage simply say you are in the closet. Apologize if needed but seem less and less comfortable around other people when it's about her. Her friends will tell her and that's the key. Make her feel like your identity is driving a wedge in the relationship. Make her feel like it's baggage she's forcing on you unfairly. Make sure she feels like you are the victim of her silly little delusions.
(Advanced)
At this stage you are really risking a break up over this behavior and she will almost certainly confront you. The key isn't to make her feel like she is being paranoid. Say her dead name when referencing a TV show with an actress with the same name. Call her good girl in bed and claim it was a bad habit (doesn't work if your a virgin) if she shows you any pictures of her with long hair or her being girly tell her you think she was beautiful. Always in the past tense. If she has at any point mentioned wanting kids use that. Go to parks, talk about how much you love your niece/nephew, talk about how you want kids of you own and float the idea of adopting but say you would prefer they be yours (extremely effective if she has a want to be a mother but is infected with the tranny mind virus) force her to confront in her own mind the fact she can't be a "man" and a mother and one will crack, if you have played your cards right she'll pick being your girlfriend over hurting you by staying in her tomboy fantasy.
(Expert. Warning do not try)
Just tell her outright while having sex you want to do some forced fem roleplay in bed. Force her to say she's not a man to orgasm. Edge her and dirty talk her calling her a woman. (Extremely risky, do not do this unless you are ready to have a huge fight and or breakup)

That's all for now. Happy chasing.

>>41576055
Cis men are sexual predators more news at 11

>>41576006 (OP)
Hm Kill yourself

>>41576082
found the hon on a polycule

>>41576055
Reason you should detrans your pooner.

>1. You entered a relationship with "him" and realize you want to get serious and know you won't be accepted by your parents or most folk/ don't want to explain that your husband has a vagina
>2. You want children and fear she will go and get a surgery making it so you can never have a little you running around.
>3. You are afraid you are afraid you won't be attracted to her after trt.
>4. You know being transgender leads to worse life outcomes and want what's best for her.
>5. You want to help limit her internet use and get her away from that internet tranny sphere and get her more focused on the real world.

>>41576055
>Are you satan?
like 50% of cis men are satan yeah

If jannies don’t start doing their job I’m going to start using ChatGPT to gender swap these retarded posts and shame you all for eternity when I get banned for it

>>41576176
found the agp in a polycule

>>41576123
better than whatever this shit is

>>41576185
Godspeed
This guide assumes two things, first you are a cis hetero Female with a pre hrt mtf partner in a monogamous relationship. Your goal is that you want to have a regular relationship but for whatever reason have found yourself with a man suffering from tranny mind virus (tmv), thankfully this is reversible and might not leave long lasting physical effects if we are preop and pre trt. Please use discretion as though many mtf will be thankful you cured them some are terminal and will only hate you for trying to help.
>(groundwork)
The number one key to this is like all manipulation of an individual by a loved one. isolation and dependency. This leaves the mtf particularly vulnerable especially in areas where there exists a strong anti trans sentiment. The more he feels like you are his only option the better. A large number of trans women are still hetero or bisexual. This can be easily exploited by simply validating his identity. At this stage do not be afraid to call him by his made up name and his chosen identity (be it a trans woman, none binary, attack helicopter, etc etc)earn his trust and make him feel loved and respected and validated in his identity, the more he draws his sense of identity from your validation the easier it will be to peel it away. Minimize friendships with anybody who might validate him besides you, make sure he isn't catching wind of the fact you are trying to isolate him from other lgbt people.
>(Intermediate)
Now that his sense of identity is tied to your validation as a partner the next step is to make it his own idea to detrans. Never confront him or give him ultimatums about giving up tranny mind virus. He needs to see it’s what you want and do it out of a sense of guilt/shame/fear of abandonment. The key is not making it obvious. Use his dead name around your mutual friends, tell people you are either not in a relationship or refer to him as your boyfriend to strangers while mutual friends are around. (continued )

>>41576225
The fundamentals still work with mtf

>>41576225
If confronted at this stage simply say you are in the closet. Apologize if needed but seem less and less comfortable around other people when it's about him. His friends will tell him and that's the key. Make him feel like your identity is driving a wedge in the relationship. Make him feel like it's baggage he’s forcing on you unfairly. Make sure he feels like you are the victim of his silly little delusions.
(Advanced)
At this stage you are really risking a break up over this behavior and he will almost certainly confront you. The key isn't to make him feel like he is being paranoid. Say his dead name when referencing a TV show with an actor with the same name. Call him daddy in bed and claim it was a bad habit (doesn't work if you’re a virgin) if he shows you any pictures of him with short hair or him being masculine tell him you think he was handsome. Always in the past tense. If he has at any point mentioned wanting kids use that. Go to parks, talk about how much you love your niece/nephew, talk about how you want kids of your own and float the idea of adopting but say you would prefer they be yours (extremely effective if he has a want to be a father but is infected with the tranny mind virus) force him to confront in his own mind the fact he can't be a "woman" and a father and one will crack, if you have played your cards right he’ll pick being your boyfriend over hurting you by staying in his sissy fantasy.
(Expert. Warning do not try)
Just tell him outright while having sex you want to do some roleplay in bed. Force him to say he’s your daddy to orgasm. Edge him and dirty talk him calling him a big boy. (Extremely risky, do not do this unless you are ready to have a huge fight and or breakup)

That's all for now. Happy chasing.
>>41576247
Kill yourself

>>41576271
>Kill yourself

Terminal pooner hands typed this unironicly.

>>41576006 (OP)
my husband was born with this guide

>>41576067
>Just tell her outright while having sex you want to do some forced fem roleplay in bed.
LMAOOOO

the way this would unironically work on me though...

>>41576185
i dont think a swapped version would work as effectively though because the power dynamics between a woman and (someone who is being detransed to) a man wouldnt be the same as op, since the trans woman would be pushed further away from her vulnerable state as a woman. unless you flip that too and then it just becomes plain forced feminization.

>>41576006 (OP)
God, how desperate, disgusting, and deserving some straight men are, they deserve the worst in this world and in hell. There are more cisgender straight women than bisexual or gay trans men; bother the first group and ignore the other two. If you want a "tomboy girlfriend," date a tomboy woman, not a trans guy. But they also need to be firmer; imagine being so silly that you can't even make your own ultimatum: "Do this and I'll break up with you/act this way and we're finished." These gays without self-respect, who at the first sign, should just leave you alone.

(t. person concerned with public welfare.)

>>41576312
And do you feel better after detransition? My ex was ftm but I broke up with them for unrelated reasons since I was joining the army with my brother at the time and couldn't complete the full detransition process.

I know OP is a larping pooner and this bait is stale, but the idea there's a chud out there with delusions like these is appealing. I'd want meet one and have him try to turn me into a woman. I'd sneak estrogen into the food I make him (as any good trad gf would) and promise I'll let him hit while fucking him with horse dildos until she turns into my perfect sissy wife.
>t. ftm 5 years on t

>>41576390
>Take your boy pills anon

>>41576340
not even technically a detransition since i never went past the pronoun stage in the first place. and no i would probably feel slightly better if i actually transitioned instead

>>41576390
this is based

>>41576485
Cute reply nona :) I'm sure you'll find a good ftm husband to fuck that attitude right out of you if you ask nicely

Why does this type of shit constantly target FtMs? I scroll around AO3 for hurt/comfort fics and every time I search up the trans tag without other filters, this kind of shit shows up, and a majority of the detrans shit is FtM. Like, why? (Also, the forced MtF transition shit is also fucking unhinged I hate those plant people aaaa.)

>>41576694
Forcefem is more humiliating than the opposite fetish.

>>41576711
I guess, haven't really seen forced masc outside of like, orientation play or some shit. Still, both are equally disgusting imo.

>>41576006 (OP)
I should be mad about these posts but like 2/3 of FtMs will detransition anyway so it does not matter

>>41576793
With your help we can increase that to 3/4

>>41576793
it sometimes feels like such a joke that these individuals are seen on the same level as transsexual women when things like these are bound to happen most of the time. really bad optics if you ask me

Ok now seriously did this post reach tumblr or something? I didn't expect to see so many people mad
>>41576694
Because most FtMs who never touch T detransition and a good chunk become TERF activists

>>41576859
They know it's true so it hits a nerve. The majority of pre trt trans men detransition without much fuss.

>>41576884
But as far as I knew there weren't many theyfabs here. Kinda weird, maybe I am a readinghon and cannot tell people's genders by their messages.

>>41576846
If you don't mind me asking what methods did you observe him using to get you to decide to detransition? I want to refine the guide and make it more comprehensive in the future.

>>41576006 (OP)
>Use her dead name
You'd be disposed of so quickly

>>41576918
he used his knowledge from a career he never finished to imply he knew more about what hrt does while at the same time claiming its dangerous because theres no way to know for sure what it will and wont do. also mentioned he had a history of dating ftms in the past and that apparently most of them had health complications from their transition and regretted it in some way. made me feel really guilty for wanting to choose what i really want by saying it would hurt him if i got these health complications as well, combined with him threatening to leave (which honestly is probably my fault being affected by it in the first place, because as far as i know any normal person would have just accepted their partner was incompatible and left the moment they heard that anyway)

>>41576955
I actually did this unintentionally talking about Natalie Portman when around my girlfriend. Natalie was her dead name and she was very sad and shocked about it but i apologized and I think it chipped away at her pooner mind virus just a little.

>>41576969
And you're still with this dude?
>digits
Nice

>>41577003
>And you're still with this dude?
yea. even despite all that and despite the fact its all online idk what id do without him id probably be really devastated and have less of a reason to stay alive

>>41576969
It seems he broke the rule of not setting an ultimatum. It is my opinion that playing the long game is better for both parties then threatening to leave. Where you already on the path before that moment? Do you think you would have still detransitioned if he never said anything about it?

>>41576990
No one hears their dead name and immediately tells everyone

>>41577023
She already had trusted me with her dead name since the school we went to insisted on filing all paperwork in her dead name and announcing her dead name over the intercom. (Oklahoma so they aren't exactly the most accommodating for trans people)

>>41577013
>all online
WOW that is even more pathetic dear lord

>>41577040
>school
Yikes

>>41577018
>It seems he broke the rule of not setting an ultimatum
yea he did LOL but honestly it can be pretty effective in people who are as stupid as me. not everyone is though

>Where you already on the path before that moment?
i was about to ask a professional about it and ended up not doing that but i am still secretly on the path to come out to my family first so i can figure the rest out but cant because i actually fucked myself with the whole repper mindset which is entirely my fault not his

>Do you think you would have still detransitioned if he never said anything about it?
theres a small chance i wouldve probably made up my mind faster about coming out and transitioning earlier but honestly i doubt it

>>41576990
if you knew the name before why would he be shocked?

>>41577072
We where both seniors in highschool you fucking pedo

>>41577163
Sorry your school experiences are cringe grow up

>>41577107
Probably because most pooners don't expect to hear there dead name from there partner randomly when talking about indie bands.

>>41577169
I'm sorry one of the staff touched you in school.

>>41577183
people don't even remember their own deadname so having a strong reaction is unnatural

>>41577200
>people don't even remember their own deadname
You've got to be kidding

>>41577214
i'm not you get used to ur actual name

>>41577190
Even your comebacks never graduated past high school

>>41576859
>I didn't expect to see so many people mad
Usually the invalidating stuff is the usual YWNBAM/W banter, passgen shoulder/hip ratio and the dick measuring contest of who is more trans than the other person so you kind of get numb to a lot of it.

I dunno, even though it's obvious bait, it feels more serious than your average "show tits and pussy" jab. I'm pre-HRT MtF and detransing stuff especially like what you wrote strikes a huge nerve because I knew I could've been at least a midshit. I was referred to the Tavistock GIC at around 14-15 before the service went up in flames, but my parents refused to interact with the GIC, and now I'm a lateshit twinkhon and it pisses me off that I could've been happier and less fucked up if my parents cared about me. Even present day, my mum still polices me, forces me to get my hair cut, points out parts of my body she knows makes me dysphoric and constantly talks about how she'll find me a gf that will "fix me" (she also hates the fact that I like men and she wants me to have biological kids) and the only reprieve I get is during uni years where I stay at student accomodation.

TL:DR, this bait felt more unironic than the usual, and triggered me even though I'm MtF because the gaslighting and manipulation hits too close to home. </3

>>41577221
Of course you get used to your current name, but that doesn't erase the decades you spent as the last one. And all the times it comes up for legal purposes and the process of changing it.

>>41577265
you lose the feeling that that name belongs to you so it's really weird if it's having an effect after so much time

>>41577332
That's fair enough. Implying literally "forgetting" the name was extreme but I understand what you're all about now

>>41577355
ok
i could've said you don't recognize it as your own name so why would you be offended or care

>>41576006 (OP)
I think if this works on a girl she deserves to be a woman anyways

>>41577371
I thought you were being ridonkulous and misleading at first

>>41577393
i believe so too, which is why i also believe i could be the reincarnation of a mtf repressor in a female body, which would make me feel even more guilty for wanting to change it in any way

>>41576006 (OP)
One of my crushes tried to detrans me and this only works if you're a trender retard
I just don't talk to him now kek

>>41576327
Tomboys have become illegal and all nonconforming girls must because poons or theyfabs

We must protect them from TikTok tardation
We must make tomboys real again

>>41576082
No these freaks are sexual predators. Who raised you people?

>>41576390
What why? Why would someone larp about this man wtf

>>41576006 (OP)
But I don't like women, they're mean.
I want a short hairy pervert husband with a pussy.

>>41576055
>Are you satan?
He's undoing satan's mind tricks that made them ftm in the first place.
>just date a cis chick
trans"men" are the scene girls and goths of today, this makes them hotter! Plus the best part is she sees herself as inherently inferior because of her sex. This makes them excellent submissive wives because she will always look up to the patriarch in the household. And they aren't stuck up bitches like reppers. It's a bonus most of them are lesbians and have experience with girls. You can have a threesome easily, imagine making her eat out another girl while you pound her bussy

>>41580552
>trans"men" are the scene girls and goths of today, this makes them hotter!
They're not girls though!

>>41580452
>I want a short hairy pervert husband with a pussy.
the pussy is what makes them women, don't agree? then take it up to the other mtfs who agree with me

>>41576006 (OP)
studying

It's brilliant.
It's genius.
It's exactly what the white birth rate and male loneliness epidemic needs.

You've outdone yourself, OP

>>41580552
You have never felt the touch of a person you actually love. It is turning you evil, I hope one day you grow as a person and find someone that loves you. Also hope all FTMs stay away from you freaks.

whoever posted this is a nigger