Thread 41580693

this is after weight cycling multiple times. 2yr 10m hrt. with good levels (~318pg E, low t) exercise, eating properly (about to gain from this for another cycle). im 5'3 and frame everything perfectly with every outfit and have voice trained, and have an androgynous face. fuck, it genuinely feels like im doing drag by just how little my body reacted to hrt at all, and how shit the skeleton was to begin with. why?? is it just a matter of getting every surgery possible at this point?? i just want to be a woman :(

>>41580693 (OP)
you need to eat more anon
until your thighs are touching

you look like a cartoon baby version of superman with that stupid fucking pose. ngmi.

>>41580706
yeah i think im just going to kill myself at this point
>>41580700
this is the bottom of the weight cycle, gained more after this, it just showed me exactly how grim it actually is

What weights are you cycling at 5'3

>>41580723
yeah i would too i dont blame you anon

>>41580693 (OP)
tbhon you look like a titan from attack on titan. your bones are cursed gg

idk what went so wrong. catastrophic results. like, what am i meant to do?? jesus fucking christ, like, i genuinely cannot have anyone see this body ever. this shit is genuinely making me want to sui.. nothing?? at all??

>>41580693 (OP)
eat more food, get on prog. it takes cis women ~6 years to fully develop into women, and they have puberty much earlier when the body is more responsive. stick it out.

>>41580693 (OP)
With all the love in the world, anon....you gotta have some meat on your bones for weight cycling to matter. Your peak BMI should be like, 23 or 24, before going back down ~10lbs, rinse and repeat

>>41580728
55 - 65 kg ish..

>>41580744
they also have their puberty start when they are children and not voting-age males who have already finished male puberty.

>>41580693 (OP)
I have the same body. Unlucky

me too i also look similar

>>41580751
that's what I'm saying, it's gonna take a while

>>41580744
>>41580747
okay, ill cycle at higher weights, i know i went a little low on this round. i will keep trying. im chugging oats and chicken and veg to go up atm

get a dutch panel test. you might have lots of shitty estrogen metabolites

>>41580762
this is after 2 years and 10 months, pretty much when all the change happens :/ it's just.. disappointing, for my one short life.

>>41580764
will very much look into that, thank you. ill do it tomorrow morning,, im feeling a bit too much to properly take something like that in

>>41580762
well that "while" is going to have to include inventing time travel

>>41580693 (OP)
oh my god bruh
no one believes it when i say my frame is fucked either
i regularly consider detrooning over it but i settled on permamanmoding atp

>>41580764
do not get anything dutch do not trust the dutch do not befriend the dutch do not listen to what dutch people tell you they are all evil liars and their bodies are scientifically proven to not have the capacity to harbor a soul

>>41580693 (OP)
okay in this case IT IS OVER, you would've to skinwalk into a new skeleton to fix that kind of situation

>>41580777
THANK YOU!! idk, probably everybody that knows in my life is fuckin hugboxxing me. ive thought about detrooning myself, but i am not much of a man to begin with

Anon, let me tell you something. You do realize most of the replies are being overly nasty because you've mentioned that you're 5'3" and the majority of the users here are towering 6'0"+ eldritch horrors?
That's not to say your body is good because it isn't. But the most important thing for passing is face and height. No one is going to even notice how big your rib-cage is if you wear a shirt that's one size up, and even if you had good hips you need to dress intentionally to show them, and in most instances people don't because it's not really comfy to do so.
If not being able to show the curves of your body was the thing that determined passing, then no women would pass in winter clothes.

>>41580785
thank you. it's genuinely nice to hear some honesty... i just don't know what to do. i don't want to not be a woman. i think im just forced to skinwalk and never have anybody see my body ever. like.. i genuinely feel cursed...

>>41580813
don't worry, ive got the fashion on point! every single thing i wear anywhere is meant to contour and flatter my body as much as possible. it's just that under the clothes..

>>41580823
i don't get why people worry about what's under the clothes so much. for me, the point of transitioning was to be able to live my day-to-day life as a woman, not having the body of a woman so i can jack off to myself in the mirror like most people here seem to have transitioned for.
last time i checked, we all live in societies where it is not very acceptable for you to go to work, school, or to the bar completely naked. so height and face matter waay more than if your ribcage is slightly bigger than ur waist or whatever

>>41580813
hence the fatmaxxing sabotage

>>41580836
It really is so stupid. People will comment on my hips when I specifically dress up to show them, but I am not going to go through the effort everyday. If you really believe that passing hinges on being able to show off your body, then do you think that women stop passing the moment they have to wear a uniform or something?

>>41580831
yes, i agree. i transitioned to live day-to-day as a woman, and i love doing it. this isn't to jack off in the mirror, and i find that quite a gross thing to do. this is, well, because some partnership would be nice. no guy would want me as a woman with this body, and that's something id want sometime in the future. it just,, really isn't getting there at all

>>41580866
i think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself here. first transition, and start successfully living as a woman, and then you can think about getting a guy and whatnot. i'm sure there are things you can do to improve your body situation.

>>41580857
it doesn't hinge on showing off the body, yeah. clothes do so much, and you can frame an androgynous face well with hair. it's just, it would be nice to look at all like a woman underneath, right??

>>41580879
"first transition" it's so over.. idk what to tell you but i live as a woman

>>41580886
oh i knew you were transitioning but i just assumed from your op
>i just wanna be a woman :(
that u didn't pass. sorry in that case get some like surgery to widen hips or something?

>>41580880
>it's just, it would be nice to look at all like a woman underneath, right??
there are starving hons in amerikkka that don't even look androgynous. be grateful you pass.

>>41580893
fuck.. like i lost my family over this... i know ill just have to work my ass off and get any and every surgery possible. it just feels terrible, i feel a little hopeless. fuck, couldn't hrt have done anything? :/

>>41580898
sorry to all the starving hons in the states. i genuinely am grateful that i pass, well-enough, i am. though, i it still sucks. it's genuinely crushing, still

>>41580919
>like i lost my family over this
so did i and i don't pass who cares

>>41580813
Idk I'm 5'9" and like 5'3" would make me a dwarf where I live + that body is dreadful no feminisation whatsoever wtf

>>41580693 (OP)
started at 19 despite knowing well before then, and being too helpless to get myself diy earlier..

>>41580964
you're 21?

>>41580962
>Idk I'm 5'9"
Why are you acting like that's not on the tall side for women. The tallest average height for women internationally is 5'7" in Bosnia, being 5'9" is already pretty tall just for Bosnia.
Which country do you live in that being 5'3" would be exceptionally short?

>>41580956
who cares? i care! i did so much to pass. i want to be a woman. i just can't even call myself a woman with how hideously male my body is

>>41580974
22, yeah

>>41580977
im in australia. thankfully before my russian parents disowned me for being trans, they moved here. it's very much a women's height here, which helps me a lot

>>41581001
oh yeah the average height in Australia for women is 5'3.5" so you're at a really good height. I know many 5'8"+ and a few 6'0"+ trannies in Australia who try to convince themselves that their heights are passable and it's honestly quite funny.

>>41581009
i agree with the height. as much as i dislike the sydney and melbourne polycule shit, i can't really say anything,, glass houses

>>41580977
That is pretty average in Scandinavia idk what to tell you 5'3" is more abnormal unless you're an immigrant

>>41581029
Average height in Sweden is 5'5" and it's 5'5.5" in Norway. 5'9" is way more abnormal in Scandinavia than 5'3" but keep lying to yourself I guess.

>>41581029
uhm, good to know that im not in Scandinavia? anything else you want to share with the class?

anyways, im going to try pio. if that doesn't work, surgeries until my blood is plastic. if that doesn't work, who wants a dead body?

>>41581036
Yeah and Sweden has a quarter foreigners retard + that counts old ppl which are shorter
And even if its 5'6" (which it isn't for young Swedish women but whatever) that literally would still make 5'3" as rare as 5'9" you absolute retard
Anyway fuck off show hands thirdie
>>41581040
You're a huge hon and you should probably detrans you're bad optics :3

>>41581060
Fucking bitter trannies sybau

>>41581084
Ok moid

this height talk is makin me self conscious as a manlet

>>41581088
You're probably more feminine than OP too lmao

>>41581060
nona, please, you're projecting hatred outwards. it's gonna be okay. you're a little tall, and that's okay. there's no need to take it out on others. im trying to live as a woman, same as you. being defensive on something you invoked yourself says a lot

>>41581102
You're the one taking the piss because boohoo I'm talking to someone else on your thread lmao fucking narc
You're a literal brick so your little "You're too tall" don't hit you're a dwarf manlet lmao I'm literally a normal height passoid now stfu and let your superior talk you being le op doesn't give you authority retard

>>41581097
i'm built like gimli actually

>>41581116
Wow hot

>>41581109
sorry for hitting a nerve, i hope you're doing okay

>>41581109
it'll be okay

>>41581124
Just don't be so self centred especially when you don't have the body to back it up, Frodo
>>41581126
I hate overconfident hons and the worst kind is the kind that thinks being built like a halfling makes them somehow passoids kek

>>41581060
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7154623/
Study from where participants born 1989-91 to Nordic parents are measured for their heights.
Average adult height for women in the study was 168.6 cm (5"6').
Tell me again that 5"3' is freakishly tall in Scandinavia LMAO. It's so funny how you need to cope with your height by using the most extreme countries as examples.

>>41580693 (OP)
Same physique as me, and why I am repping

>>41581137
>using the most extreme countries as your example
Or maybe because I live in Copenhagen??? Lmao also those numbers still include immigrants if they have Swedish citizenship
5'3" is not freakishly small but it is small. I never see scandi girls that tall is all now maybe a thirdie will explain to me why I'm wrong while loving in his poop hut

>>41581060
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7154623/
Study from where participants born 1989-91 to Nordic parents are measured for their heights.
Average adult height for women in the study was 168.6 cm (5"6').
>And even if its 5'6"
It is
>which it isn't for young Swedish women
It is.
>that literally would still make 5'3" as rare as 5'9"
You said being 5'3" "would make you a dwarf". If being 3 inches off the average is "dwarf" then you're slenderman bitch.

>>41581152
Lol he deleted his msg out of shame

>>41581152
>Lmao also those numbers still include immigrants if they have Swedish citizenship
Read the study retard it literally says "born to Nordic parents". I thought Swedes were supposed to be smart?

>>41581159
Anyone can be Nordic nowadays even Sami and F*nns smhsmh

>>41581156
And yet you're doing like every midget is doing and coping by saying actually being the superior height and not a dysgenic thirdie is actually a bad thing because le passing as if I wanted to pass as an obese lady from Michoacan lmaooo

>>41581158
No i deleted it because I wrote "5'3" is freakishly tall" instead of "5'3" is freakishly short".
>>41581167
>NOOO 5'3" IS FREAKISHLY SHORT IN SVEDEN
>ermm but you have to exclude immigrants
>ermmm but you also have to exclude old people
>errmmm you also have to exclude sami people and finish people
I could keep showing you more and more evidence and by the time we reach the end you'll have excluded everyone in the country but yourself lmao.
>>41581172
>as if I wanted to pass
dude i already knew you didn't pass you didn't have to tell me.

>>41581190
Post hands thirdie :3

>>41581195
Post unsee with face first, hon.

>>41581202
>I can't post hands to protect my anonymity
>so you have to post face
Don't you have poop to smear on your hut thirdie

None of you pass anyways, so you should stop being bitter to your fellow trannies, it's why bisexuals are attracted to you. Before some retard comes in here saying they pass, no you don't, send a footage of you spinning around in a bikini in broad daylight, I guarantee none of you will pass my test. You are trannies, you will always look like a tranny, at best you should try to be the most attractive tranny possible.

And even if you did pass which let's be real none of you do, why would a straight man even want to date you, when they could just date a real woman. Considering you can't give them kids. You should really just own being a tranny tbqh.

>>41581209
I never said I wouldn’t do it. I asked you to do it “first”. That means to do it before me, and implies that I will do it after you do it you retarded ESL. Go back to eating your smelly fish.

>>41581240
>you have to doxx yourself because I have poopie hands
Okay lol.

>>41581262
>noo my heckin doxxing
I didn’t ask for your government ID. Holy shit talking with an ESL is exhausting.

>>41581274
Not like I never posted face here anyway

>>41581280
HOLY SHIT YOU’RE BROWN LMAO

>>41581284
Ok show hands now

>>41581288
here you go brownie

>>41581291
>mexicana hands typed this
Anyway brown hair doesn't make me brown lmao cope

>>41581280
>the tranny seething at op looks a brown agp nerd in a wig
AHHAHAHAHAHAH you fuckers are so mental

>>41581295
You're just jealous cuz you're not Nordic omg i can't wait until we expel all y'all thirdies from Sweden

>>41581294
it’s called lighting amigo

>>41581300
>Nordic
you have brown hair, mongoloid brown eyes, and your skin is literally brown bro what are you about.

>>41581302
Omg they have lighting where you are crazy so why don't you all stay there???

jfc, and i thought i needed at get a grip. all your races are fake and gay

>>41581312
You’re brown and an ESL.

>>41581308
>anon discovers not all Swedes are blonde
Kek most ppl have naturally brown / dar blonde hair, girls bleach it idiots

>>41581326
Do they also have naturally brown skin?

>>41581330
You're mean

>>41581351
you’re brown and balding

>>41581356
This shit is why I've joined SD

>>41581363
they let brown people into SD? wow very progressive of them

>>41581370
Jag kan inte vänta till ni blattar alla dog :3

>>41580693 (OP)
Why are you doing a rapist stance

>>41581393
Can you speak a normal language. I don't speak IKEA.

>>41581300
nordic you look like a white mexican from socal. The asbolute state of bitter agphons trying to gatekeep trannies for image reasons when you look like T H A T jfl.

I will never be offended by what anyone on here says just even knowing that could be your face behind the computer FFS LMAOOOOO

>>41581284
>>41581295
>>41581459
This is Sara Gille a Swedish member of parliament and of the far right Party
She's most probably cis

lmao far right party and BROWN hahaahashahhahah god I hate brown womane.

>>41581479
>this means that sveden anon is possibly even more brown that this
LMFAO

>>41581489
>brown ppl can only use ppl slightly whiter than them as pictures

>>41581542
>brown people won't post their real face or skin color if they're arguing about not being brown
ftffy

>>41580693 (OP)
i think your body is very hot

>>41580693 (OP)
surgery solves all ails

>>41580737
detrans? plap a poonah?
stay a tranny, just deal?

>>41580693 (OP)
That ribcage.. dear god

>>41580767
>she fell for the 2 year timeline meme
It took like 4-5 years for my HRT to have actually noticeable changes. Keep at it, nona

>>41582525
do you pass now

>>41580693 (OP)
You've been on hrt for that long and didn't grow boobs? I'd start slamming estrogen now if the same would happen to me, but knowing my luck in this gaynigger world I'd wind up with the fattest cone tits on earth.

>>41582610
I pass in the sense that people correctly assume I'm a woman IRL, and treat me as such
I don't pass in the sense of passing that people use here (attractiveness/hotness, etc)
I basically pass as an ugly woman IRL

>>41580693 (OP)
You cannot imitate your way into being a woman

>>41582630
>I pass in the sense that people correctly assume I'm a woman IRL, and treat me as such
They are being polite most likely and don't want the hassle of a public disagreement. If you truly want to know if you pass ask a complete stranger if they think you are transgender.

>>41582646
Last lab check I did the nurse kept asking me about my periods and was genuinely flabbergasted when I told her I was trans, so yeah, I think I pass anon.

>>41582658
So now I completely don't believe you. Actual nurses literally would NEVER ask a patient that question. Post a pic for proof of passing.

>>41582673
I'm not posting my face online just to appease you lmao
I don't need to convince you

>>41582525
The benchmark keeps moving

>>41582708
Do you know how I can tell you are lying about being asked that question? Do you really not know why nurses don't ask that question?

>>41582728
Maybe they don't ask that over there, but I'm 100% sure we live in different countries, so whatever reason you give for that is most likely different where I live.

>>41582737
>so whatever reason you give for that is most likely different where I live.
That is 100% cope. You are visibly transgender no matter what you think and that's fine but don't put yourself in dangerous situations IRL because of polite people and allies.

>>41580693 (OP)
WeIGhT CyCLiNg is a tranny myth.

Bottom line is you're not a woman, no amount of estrogen is gonna change that. You should just embrace being a bottom and twink max instead.

>>41582757
There are two alternatives to what I'm experiencing IRL
>I've only ran into allies/polite people who are "just being nice"
>I pass, even if it's just as an ugly woman
One is way more likely than the other, and given how strangers treat me as I spend more and more years on HRT, I'm inclined to assume the latter is more likely, regardless of what you want to believe

Hairless hobbit

>>41583110
People who clock you as visibly transgender don't necessarily have to be allies dumbass
They are just people who don't want the hassle of getting fined or bad social karma for misgendering you.
"passing" is a myth because it is literally not disprovable

>>41583297
>the hassle of getting fined or bad social karma for misgendering you
Not all countries in the world operate in the same way as the US, anon

>>41582708
if you're going to larp, the least you can do is imitate how i type??

>>41583316
Correct but it still gives zero insight into the mental processes of strangers or even common aquaintances. I think you'll find in 100% of cases if you asked an acquaintance if they thibk you are transgender they would say oh yes but i support you

>>41582525
the benchmark keeps moving, ill keep at it only because i don't really have another choice

>>41582624
i am become repfuel.

it's just hard.. i don't know, "detrans and live as a fag" would genuinely make me want to kms so much more. it sucks so much and idk what i can do. im too much of a coward to ever kms

>>41583455
dude I have bigger tits than you, and I haven't even taken estrogen.

yeah i think i finally snapped. there's only so much i can take. goodbye, everybody. i hope the fish get some use out of this wretched body

>>41583582
Great post you fat faggot

>>41580763
allow yourself to eat carbs too, and make damn sure to be on prog.

>>41580693 (OP)
>i just want to be a woman :(
Fortunately your desire is incompatible with the reality that you will never be a woman. You can accept it now or continue to mutilate and estrogenate and utterly humiliate yourself to find this out the hard way.

>>41580693 (OP)
literally the worst pose a retard negro like you could do fucking subhuman

weight cycling is a meme sad u fell for it. Doesnt work its pure honscience and gaining weight too quickly does actually become preferentially deep belly fat (visceral) yoyo dieting sucks. You dont change where fat is bc fat cells still alive they dont just die or migrate when you deflate them and they just fill up again when you gain ghe weight back the same fat cells

Just workout your lower body with weights and do cardio for athleticism/blood flow/general health purposes

Eat healthy

And maintain a healthy weight (within the healthy bmi range, low if u wanns go for the skinny aesthetic 18-20 or a bit high if u wanna go for a bit thicker look 22-24)

Also take pio if you want (while maintaining weight, yes) to accelerate fat turnover but otherwise yeah good levels on hrt permanently needless to say

And dont fear surgeries bc they can vastly improve quality of life. Dont fall for the stupid cissoid stigma for “artificial” and like obsession with “natooral” stuff just ignore it all and get whatever procedure you feel that you need, you know better about your own body than anyone else here

Also hugs and power to you sister, and i really mean it. Youre loved even if you havent achieved your dream body still

>>41584205
I have seen trannies that go for a muscular look, there are certainly muscles you could work out to fraud a feminine shape, you should really start giving that a try.

>>41585906
>>41585983
Get out the thread incels youre scum enjoy being lonely losers

im the anon above btw

>>41586010
Im not an incel retard I have a 6’4
220 lb tatted uncut bf who loves me and I have a 6 figure job and enjoy going cave diving in my spare time

>>41580693 (OP)
breathe out before you take a pic retard

>>41586038
next time don't bother bringing an oxygen tank then

>>41580693 (OP)
It can take years for the bones to fully feminize, OP.

>>41580693 (OP)

Im 6'3 sux 2 suck (1y 2m hrt)

>>41587913
wat's ur problem

>>41588308
felt like hating

>>41580693 (OP)
I look like this after a year of non-stop binge drinking and eating, you're pretty fem op lmao

>>41586986
lol

>>41587913
im 5'8 sux 2 suck (1 month hrt)
dont be mean to ppl who have it worse than you thats not good...

>>41588810
I hate you that other bitch is awful too but fuck you I hate you

>>41588848
its not good to be mean to people who have it better than you either nona...

>>41588869
Haha, I think you'll be alright, your life is just gonna be better than mine is all so I think you can handle some stranger telling you to fuck off

>>41588877
well yea but like everyone should be nicer idk

>>41580693 (OP)
People being mean to you isn’t honesty, is it over? Maybe, but also you’re probably not eating enough. if you do and it starts going to your stomach it might actually be over.

>>41580693 (OP)
You look like the basedjack throwing its Wii on his wife's head lol

>>41588883
I think you're right but being a blatant bitterhon is my copium I'm afraid