Thread 41580802

>be me
>ftm
>closet
>go to tiny party
>2 girls talk me to since I'm the only other "girl" there
>start talking about how good it is to be a women
>ohfuck.gif
>"Yeaahhh it sure is great how we have..."
>"tits."
>silence.mp3
>laugh and go to the bathroom
>mfw

>>41580802 (OP)
only ftms can truly appreciate the experience of womanhood, this is exactly why you know the value of tits and they don't

>>41580811
>picrel
the only ftms i know were completely malsocialized and like perved on other girls and shit. how does someone with a seemingly perfectly healthy childhood like that even end up trans in the first place?

I can relate... This is what it felt like trying to "relate" to women while being a "woman" lol... They usually caught on and kicked me out of the group, tho.

>>41580827
>perved on other girls
>malsocialized
Women do that ALL the damn time, it's normal behavior for them. They kind of have to even if they are straight because that's the only way you can actually see who is going to be competition in the eyes of men. However you do have a point T should stop them from being sheep that conform to everything ever. But it doesn't in so many cases, so maybe it works only for males?

>>41580955
>Women do that ALL the damn time, it's normal behavior for them
meh, I'm not talking about looking at their bodies, of course that's normal. I mean like trying to grope them and stealing their panties and stuff

>>41580984
I don't think you live on the same planet as the rest of us. In what world is any of this unusual for women? They "playfully" kiss and grab each other's boobs in normal social contexts like while hanging out with their friend groups. Some who consider themselves straight but just "experimenting" will even eat out another woman. The fact is they are all lesbians on some level

>>41581077
er... i dunno man. I've socialized almost exclusively with women my whole life and a big chunk of it has been stealth. I've watched girls get kicked out of friendgroups for that shit, called dykes etc.
I think you have a kind of pornified view of women's behavior. My friends are all cis and like, yeah, occasionally someone will "playfully grab" someone's boob, but nobody is kissing without having it awkwardly brought up later as a mistake.
I'm referring to the fact that both FtMs i know well did something else, where they used their position in those contexts to gleam actual sexual pleasure in the way a male might.

>>41580984
>I mean like trying to grope them and stealing their panties and stuff
Bruh cis people was letting us get anyway with everything... Did you use your freak behavior to find work? I ended up making NSFW stories/art.
>>41581077
>In what world is any of this unusual for women?
It's unusual as fuck if you were an unmolested little girl or tween, not a high school/college bisexual "woman". The asexual/straight girls don't find it amusing.

>>41581095
>occasionally someone will "playfully grab" someone's boob, but nobody is kissing without having it awkwardly brought up later as a mistake.
This doesn't happen with straight cis males, and that's my point. The very fact they are so touchy with each other for these to even be a thing is testament to their inherent lesbian nature.
>to gleam actual sexual pleasure in the way a male might
Males don't really get sexual pleasure from any of those things, they need visual stimulation primarily. Sniffing a girl's panties or feeling her up happens after they already got horny. In fact all these other things are quite feminine behaviors and thus your ftm acquaintances are behaving according to their biology

>>41581112
I'm mtf but yeah you could say i "found work" lol
>his doesn't happen with straight cis males
but, it does, cis guys slap eachother's asses or squeeze eachother's bicep as a joking "no homo" thing all the time. that's what's happening here with women.
>Males don't really get sexual pleasure from any of those things, they need visual stimulation primarily
this is literally what I am saying, like, one guy i know would go into the locker room at his highschool and watch other girls change because he knew they wouldn't question why he was in there

>>41581127
>this doesn't happen with straight cis males
but, it does, cis guys slap eachother's asses or squeeze eachother's bicep as a joking "no homo" thing all the time. that's what's happening here with women.
>Males don't really get sexual pleasure from any of those things, they need visual stimulation primarily
this is literally what I am saying, like, one guy i know would go into the locker room at his highschool and watch other girls change because he knew they wouldn't question why he was in there

oops

>>41581112
>The asexual/straight girls don't find it amusing.
No but that's because they are stuck up bitches who either are traumatized by sex or are trying to conform to current societal standard. You can clearly see that once society starts opening up even the "straight" ones start identifying as some flavor of /lgbt/ this is literally why so many theyfabs exist. Only those that are particularly autistic will go the extra mile

>>41581166
oh. you're a goonrotted retard, sorry for responding in the first place

>>41581095
>My friends are all cis and like, yeah, occasionally someone will "playfully grab" someone's boob, but nobody is kissing without having it awkwardly brought up later as a mistake.
Wtf, what republican hellhole do you live in? Move to a blue state ASAP.

>>41581182
I live in california, but my friends are normal and all straight except one lesbian, but she has a butch

>>41581182
like, these girls mostly have boyfriends lol. that would not be chill, they'd be in the shits for like a week. Even my more "progressive" friends don't do shit like that. In the group i was friends with in highschool, there was ONE girl who would like try to kiss u when she was drunk and it was an "avoid her when she starts" thing.

>>41581150
>cis guys slap eachother's asses or squeeze eachother's bicep as a joking "no homo" thing all the time.
Yes cis guys, but bisexual or even ironic gay ones. The no homo shit is a perfect example of how these kind of things are so unusual that it always has to be called out on the spot if it happens (and it doesn't amongst straight men). Girls have no equivalent to no homo because they are indeed homo and they know it. The are the type of people who are most likely going to call themselves femboys btw.
>one guy i know would go into the locker room at his highschool and watch other girls change
He wasn't there to jerk off, he was there to affirm to himself how much of a totally not a girl boyman he was. It's very common for them to cope by going full lesbo, in fact they criticize ftms who don't chase (and punish) women as being fakers. Most of them do not watch porn, or if they do it's going to be some drawn shit with an immersive story. Because they can goon to text but not ass and tits

>>41581204
>guy thinks women don't say "no homo"
lol. ok virg. have a good night, it's bed time for me.

>>41581220
nice ad hominem, concession accepted. The fact is being seen as faggy is not problematic at all for women.

>>41580811
is this picrel ropefuel for ftms?

>>41581261
somewhat because they want to be men and know their past gets in the way, but at the same time ftms secretly wish they were allowed to express their femininity more often

>>41580984
Like muh ANNIE MAYS!

>>41580827
>how is this cis woman trans?
thats just it anon, she isnt

>>41580984
You are 12

>>41581127
>men don't get sexual pleasure from fondling women's breasts

Thanks for explaining male sexuality AYDEN!

>>41581253
>The fact is being seen as faggy is not problematic at all for women.
NTA it's the opposite
t. was assumed to be a dyke

>>41581182
Extremely membranes post

>>41581355
>men want to fondle all the breasts ever
nope only the nice looking ones attached to hot bodies, all of this is visual first

>>41581189
>my friends are normal
>but nobody is kissing without having it awkwardly brought up later as a mistake
Nope, sorry girl, doesn't sound like it.
>>41581203
>like, these girls mostly have boyfriends lol. that would not be chill, they'd be in the shits for like a week.
Once again, that is not normal. At all. Guys find it hot when girls make out and it doesn't mean anything, unless you live in some handmaid's tale fascist dystopia then they probably don't like it very much.

>>41581378
omg. Is Tumblr still a thing? Where do these aydens come from?

>>41581361
Lesbians are not seen as inherently less womanly though. When you come out as a gay cis man you instantly are seen as a disappointment and a failure to all mankind. Especially if they know you bottom, it's like your own manhood shrinks into nothing and now you're made for nothing but breeding like all females

>>41581392
we come from from here and this is what we talk about https://old.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/1ooy85g/guilt_about_wearing_anything_considered_girly/
>Wear whatever you want. :) Dresses etc might feel "girly", but they are just clothes. If they feel good and you like them, wear them. Only your opinion matters, not what others says.

>>41581383
Just completely disconnected from reality, posting popsci articles and your personal fantasies isn't going to change people's irl experiences

>>41581204
>Most of them do not watch porn
lmao

>>41581446
>anecdotal evidence is better!
lmao, also not that person
>Most of them do not watch porn
literally go on /ftmg/ and ask them if you like personal experiences so much, they goon to text