Thread 41583319

There may actually be a direct relation between how evil someone is and how well off they are publicly/financially.

>hasan gets outed as a dog abuser and sociopathic narcissist
>fame skyrockets

>trump gets exposed fkr sexually assaulting women
>becomes president
>gets exposed AGAIN for being besties with the worlds most famous pedophile
>becomes president AGAIN

Im starting to notice.... how this world works. Evil people are rewarded with short term gain and fame in exchange for everything that truly matters. Good people are rewarded with being themselves in exchange for being poor

Does this not also mean that good = poor?

Perhaps.. its too early to say........

is it too early or just the right time to suggest nona goes looking at marxist literature?

yeah poor people have it pretty good so they shouldn't complain

>>41583373
I dont know if that would be up my ally....im not a commie.. i do think the ideal system is a mix of capitalism and socialism.
But im also very experimental andphilosophical about what even is right. Because if we look at the grand picture, water is a resource, air is a resource, times arent like they used to be. We live in a bad world and its not easy to decide what is right or wrong, i dont think there is a system that works because humans fundamentally dont work. Show me one functional human being. Honestly i might be thr most functional person in europe but that also makes people think i ma psycho / robot. And well, really in jsut jaded, and iv stopped caring about people, iv given up hope on humanity. Maybe the best system is the one that is also the worst.

>>41583319 (OP)
good and evil is slave mentality nona

>>41583319 (OP)
I'm of the belief a lot of the negative traits we perceive as evil are surrending to baser instincts as the goal of anything that lives on this planet is to survive

>>41583319 (OP)
it's true that in a capitalistic society with fame entangled with wealth, money is often equated with morality
but it's not really true that on the low wealth side that there is only moral behavior, since it's usually the opposite, the lack of wealth drives immoral behavior more steadily
the lack of pressure to earn not only frees up moral excuses, but it also allows ppl to relax and appear more moral as they don't feel the need to do immoral things to survive
that is, good does not equal poor, but good equals abstaining from selfish opportunities within capitalism

>>41583412
dont worry abt the commie shit if you dont want to. socialism does have its roots in marxism is hence my suggestion :3

generally i think humans work for what we need working but we keep idealising and pushing ourselves for perfection we cant attain because we can envision it and have made so many fucking parameters for success on our own that wouldnt make sense to a dog even if you gave it intelligence and sapience the same as us...

bit hopefaggy but we move. tldr for me is i think people should have nice lives and deserve it simply for being a living person

i hope that makes sense

>>41583476
Ya see im on a different page. Im not convinced that humans DESERVE a good life.

>>41583470
this also leads to, due to abstaining from selfish opportunities in capitalism, a lack of capital because you do not wish to exploit others

>>41583319 (OP)
you got it backwards, hoarding wealth makes you evil
good people are corrupted by the lure of wealth

>>41583498
my thought process is this:

i want a good life. why? because itd mean id be happier. why do i deserve a good life? i dont, no one does. but due to being a social species, i inherently want other people to survive. so, how can i synthesise these ideas? everyone deserves to have good food and water and a warm home simply for that we are alive. taking away that deserving is a matter of moral failings and such i.e. people who have destroyed others' lives should have that done in turn.

for better or for the worse i think theres still hope for humanity as long as we are alive =_=;

>>41583503
kind of a trvke

>>41583499
that is true, but it is not the lack of capital that causes the good
it might be difficult to argue that someone with a lot of capital is good within capitalism, but it's not symmetrical
there is plenty of room for bad and exploitation amongst the poor, even exploitation and selfish motives in voluntary aid work, in a similar way that support and donations can be given by the rich to their own personal benefit

>>41583498
Deserve? What does it mean to deserve something? Every person does at least some things that cause other beings, even humans, suffering. Then noone deserves a good life. But then the only good thing is to rope, although that also creates suffering for others, no matter how you do. People rarely get what they deserve, but do they deserve anything at all? They don't deserve either good or bad, they just recieve everything that happens

>>41583605
i can envision deserving in the context of negative repurcussions for negative actions but not quite vice versa in the positive or neutral... brb nona i need to do a 12 hour mind project harry du bois style.

i think thats a good point though we /are/ deeply entangled in eachothers suffering and such even when we dont want to or intend to. i guess then its a matter of reconstructing morals and how we tie them in to our lives

>>41583652
hold on i dont word that quite right. inbetween entanglement and moral reconstruction, how are we so deeply entangled? i get a cup of coffee, its rewarding someone not brazilian for exploiting brazils natural wealth. what do they do to earn that right to exploitation let alone if they have it at at all? i think. ive had a headache kick in between my replies so i cant think too well ahhhh