Thread 41591604

Hello /lgbt/ I need some validation. I have a viscerally negative response to seeing overtly masculine (short cropped hair, stubble) men saying they have fem qualities or they want to be in the female role sexually. I believe you should keep that shit to yourself if you're going to post pictures of yourself like that. I believe it is their obligation to do everything in their power to actually seem feminine, no matter their skeletal structure or norwood. This means: wear a wig if you have to, shave the FUCK out of your 5 o clock shadow, wear concealer, you get the idea. I don't hold it against you if you got screwed over by genetics but do your damm job and feminize yourself as much as makeup and clothes and hair and wigs and anglefrauding will allow, BEFORE you say shit like that. We all want to be a cute girl but it is a commitment, you can't just say shit like that and expect others to cater to it.

Am I a jerk for thinking this? I mean in real life not on 4chan where it's cool to be edgy. I really don't want to be a jerk but I literally feel offended by it. Am I the problem?

>>41591604 (OP)
Missionaries teaching 3rd world pieces of shit english has been absolutely disatrous to the trans community. Literally nobody cares about your backwater opinion.

>>41591604 (OP)
Bottoms don't have to fit your gender stereotypes, bigot~

>>41591604 (OP)
Agree unless your beautiful. I feel like twunks can get away with dressing feminine. That is the apparel can be fem, but i dont want to hear a disastrous cacophony of sounds emit from their mouths (voice cracking) or even any type of shift in pitch and tone to assimilate a feminine voice.

>>41591604 (OP)

Just go for the people who meet your criteria and ignore the people who don’t.

Your standards aren’t the only ones out there.

>>41591604 (OP)
These are fine as personal standards, but trying to project them as universal (and being upset when they aren't) is unironically a symptom of autism
So yes, you're the problem in the sense that you're literally acting autistic

>>41591762
>zoomer gets a headache because the information didn't come in the form of a tiktok dance
I encourage you to take your own life

>>41591604 (OP)
Honestly seems like a pretty common take anon, as someone who is mentally a tranny I don't even know how freaks like that will go infront of a camera. Like I have such dysphoria that I do everything I can to make my body atleast androgynous.

>>41593228
ISO standard for trannies when

>>41594476
Full disclosure, I'm mildly jeepy/MEFist, but I'm also too autistic to understand being a male who isn't a little jeepy/MEFist.

The problem is, doesn't this sound exactly the same as plain vanilla chud response? I would like to think I'm better than that and it a special connection we jeeps have, and it's really a sign that I have too much empathy, not too little.

I guess what I'm asking is do I get a free pass here. Like black people saying the N word or is this too different.

>>41591604 (OP)
>>41594572
im a tranny and i get where youre coming from but id say i feel less like they (we?) owe it to society and more that we owe it to ourselves if that makes sense. like if i see an ogrehon in public i guess i come to the same reaction as opticsfags do, which is “leave that shit at home until you pass”, not because i think its ruining the public perception of trannies as a whole (imo were fucked anyway) but bc i just feel like why would you do that to yourself lol. in that sense i feel like i have a free pass to say that bc i know by experience that you can hide it (as opposed to a cissoid saying “why dont you just xyz” with no basis) but your position is somewhat different so idk

overall i think the problem, or at least this part of it, is actually the same as basically any other widespread societal annoyance in that it would be fixed in 95% of cases if everyone just thought a tiny bit harder and had about an ounce more shame. there will always be idiots with 0 self awareness who turbohonmode/stand up before the plane lands/use speakerphone in public/chew with their mouth open etc, but most people are capable of making the conscious decision not to be weird and annoying if they just gave a fuck

>>41591604 (OP)
I don’t care if men crossdress as long as they admit they’re men in women's clothing.

>>41594960
I didn't mean it as an optics thing, but how could I, since (like John 50), I don't allow myself any forms of feminine gender expression, other than in my mind when I'm gooning to sissy hypno. So our positions are obviously different. I think we're on the same page on the "why would you do that to yourself"

I think, or I hope at least, that they are hoping someone will read their mind and walk them through a forcefem roleplay. In other words they know they present as 100% masc man and they have a plan, and they're fishing for someone who "gets it". Otherwise I can't make sense of it.

Also I'm talking about hookup apps here, not walking around in public, I think once you're wearing fishnets and heels, even if you're an ogrehon, you're taking actual steps to self-feminize, so that's much easier for me to understand even though I still cringe inwardly.