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Anonymous No.41597107 [Report] >>41597128 >>41597146 >>41597160 >>41597199 >>41597447 >>41597654 >>41598672 >>41599549 >>41602042
SCOTUS Rules Against Trans People's Passport Gender Markers In Shadow Docket Ruling
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/scotus-rules-against-trans-peoples

>In a ruling issued from the shadow docket, the Supreme Court’s conservative majority sided with the Trump administration on an emergency request on transgender passport restrictions—a process historically reserved for true national crises but increasingly deployed to fast-track administration policies. In the unsigned decision, the majority asserted that banning transgender people’s correct gender markers on passports did not constitute differential treatment, while disregarding clear violations of the Administrative Procedure Act and brushing aside the obvious unconstitutional animus embedded in the executive order that enabled the ban in the first place. The ruling leaves transgender people who obtained updated passports under the prior policy in limbo—and all transgender travelers facing profound uncertainty—as the administration now weighs further actions against their documents under a Court that has signaled it is willing to greenlight those efforts.

>The passport gender marker ban, which began early in the Trump administration, was blocked after judges found the executive orders behind it—orders that branded transgender people “wrong,” “dishonorable,” and “socially coercive”—were likely discriminatory on their face and in violation of US law. The passport policy had sown chaos in the transgender community, leaving some passport applications frozen for months. Following lower court decisions blocking the passport policy, the Trump administration began allowing transgender people to update their passports if they signed an attestation document, while assuring that those who had their passports updated before the policy was enacted that they would be allowed to use those passports until they expire.
Anonymous No.41597128 [Report] >>41597167
>>41597107 (OP)
really glad my gf got hers updated during that brief window. got mine updated in 2024 so hopefully we will be okay with them for a while
Anonymous No.41597146 [Report] >>41604243 >>41604363
>>41597107 (OP)
states rights for killing babies, fed rights for killing trannies
Anonymous No.41597160 [Report]
>>41597107 (OP)
>laughs in non-US passport
Anonymous No.41597167 [Report] >>41597202 >>41597222
>>41597128
Trump stated he will revoke passports that were updated in the window

Really glad that I cucked out and got my birth gender so I actually have a chance at escape
Anonymous No.41597199 [Report]
>>41597107 (OP)
hahahahaha riiight before i change my legal name too :(

hopefully they DONT revoke passports they issued in the past few months because if they do i am FUCKED :(
Anonymous No.41597202 [Report]
>>41597167
yeah it's worrisome, but he says a lot of things. she's working on proving citizenship to an eu country through her dad and getting a different passport from that.
Anonymous No.41597222 [Report] >>41597392
>>41597167
escape where? blue states will always be the best place to live
Anonymous No.41597250 [Report] >>41597373 >>41597726
This is what America does while China takes over every single major industry.
Anonymous No.41597373 [Report] >>41597643
>>41597250
Apologize.
Anonymous No.41597392 [Report] >>41599309
>>41597222
My bf lives in a nordic country, I already live in a blue state but in a rural area where the bigotry is really strong
Anonymous No.41597447 [Report] >>41602032
>>41597107 (OP)
this is an issue of faith
stop tolerating faith
Anonymous No.41597508 [Report] >>41604268
This is a dickless, useless ruling.
Mamdani won. That's what matters. MAGA lost every race on Tuesday. Every single race.
We already made it through 1 year. Another 3 with this fat retard in the White House won't be that bad.
The MAGA backlash will cement trans rights in marble.
Anonymous No.41597643 [Report]
>>41597373
Sorry daddy I’ll be good
Anonymous No.41597654 [Report] >>41597684
>>41597107 (OP)
Cool. Thanks for ruining my vacation you stupid fucking nigger clarence.
Anonymous No.41597684 [Report] >>41597787 >>41597839 >>41599317
>>41597654
They'll die soon anyway. Evil people don't live long.
Anonymous No.41597723 [Report] >>41597740 >>41597776 >>41597797 >>41603973
how is this supposed to work when someone's birth certificate has been amended? i assume americans can't amend their birth certificates to change gender in the first place but in my country i'm guessing it would lead to a lot of problems if they banned gender changed passports, since changing the gender on your passport requires your birth certificate to be amended
Anonymous No.41597724 [Report] >>41597763
Are we gonna do documentaries in the next 30 years about the horrors of the Trump regime like people living under Adolf Hitler?
Anonymous No.41597726 [Report] >>41597839
>>41597250
the year is 2030. Troonschwitz is up and running and has chugged out 400000 troon corpses already. across the pacific, the guam naval base flies a red flag with stars, and chinese reconaissance planes skulk silently above hawaii for a repeat of december 1941
Anonymous No.41597740 [Report]
>>41597723
Trump, GOP, Rubio are all stupid cunts. Their entire existence is to ruin people's lives. If you think there is any logic in this, you aren't paying attention.
Anonymous No.41597747 [Report] >>41597796
question. is john roberts possibly the WORST supreme court justice ever? will the entirety of his life's meaningless work be repealed barely a decade later?
Anonymous No.41597763 [Report]
>>41597724
Nah. It's not that bad. I see trannies living their lives every day. Trump will be dead and we'll feel shame as a nation for electing such a retard
Anonymous No.41597776 [Report] >>41597810
>>41597723
it depends on the state some allow birth cert updates. idk how it affects the process.
Anonymous No.41597778 [Report] >>41597784
what even is the point of targeting passports specifically? like the only people looking at that are border customs of other countries. it's like they specifically wanted to trap trannies inside the country? are they trying to make themselves look bad?
Anonymous No.41597784 [Report]
my 1 year hrt was supposed to be in a few days.
>>41597778
they dont know u can just boymode if u rly needed to leave lol
Anonymous No.41597787 [Report]
>>41597684
Im legit going to get stuck in a foreign country with a bum passport because of my retarded fucking cheetonigger prez and junglemonkey faggot scotus.

What the fuck is wrong with these faggots???

Pam Bondi too. She should fucking asphysixiate on her own vomit after a nerve gas strike by isis.
Anonymous No.41597796 [Report]
>>41597747
>john roberts
my uncle summed it up best, they are all criminals scumbags who need to go to jail.

Unironically would support arresting entire SCOTUS.
Anonymous No.41597797 [Report]
>>41597723
Some states allow you to amend your birth certificate with an updated gender and name.

People who have amended their birth certificates simply aren't allowed to have passports.

The law says if they can provide documented proof of their sex assigned at birth in a convoluted way, then they may have a passport. But essentially, they just aren't legally allowed to have a passport.
Anonymous No.41597810 [Report] >>41597823
>>41597776
>it depends on the state some allow birth cert updates. idk how it affects the process.

They go by BIRTH sex on birth certificate.
Anonymous No.41597823 [Report] >>41598073 >>41602046
>>41597810
i don't think you understand what birth certificate amendments are. the sex listed on their official birth certificate is the one they amended it to, and the previous birth certificate is considered invalid and is immediately destroyed by officials, in my country at least
Anonymous No.41597839 [Report] >>41598129
>>41597726
kek
>>41597684
say that to the people in charge of this planet
Anonymous No.41597841 [Report] >>41597979 >>41598114
Anonymous No.41597979 [Report] >>41598024
>>41597841
The pendulum swings back you know.
Anonymous No.41598024 [Report] >>41598035 >>41598098
>>41597979
The pendulum wasn't swinging at all, and things were operating fine till 2010, making it easier to change passports, which was small, but post-2016, people want to push and push and now see what happens. Couldn't leave good enough alone.
Anonymous No.41598035 [Report] >>41598066
>>41598024
Nothing changed in 2010, dipshit. In 1992 they allowed you tk change sex on passports.
Anonymous No.41598066 [Report] >>41598113 >>41602067
>>41598035
I get that you are only 12 and think your trans but the world existed before you where born

>From 1992 to 2010, passport applicants whowished to obtain passports with sex markers that were dif-ferent from the sex assigned to them at birth had to submitevidence of surgical reassignment. In 2010, the State De-partment began allowing passport applicants to submit adoctor’s certification avowing that they had undergone clin-ical treatment for gender transition. Beginning in 2021, theState Department allowed applicants to self-select the sexmarker that matched their gender identity.
Anonymous No.41598073 [Report] >>41598148
>>41597823
it doesnt matter what the current certificate says. when you apply for a new passport, even with fully corrected birth certificate and other documents, you have to declare if youve ever had a passport before or if you have ever had a legal name change. if you had a passport previously that was under a different name/gender, say one made for you by parents when you were underaged, you have to declare it. if you lie and say you never had a passport, they can send you to prison. even if you really didnt, they have records of your birth sex through the social security system so even if the birth cert and licenses are all switched over with the original records destroyed(which is state records), they still have FEDERAL records of your birth sex. you can have everything switched over and fully ratified as legal use by whichever state you live in, but the federal government has the authority to void any of that on federal documents, such as passport or real ID which is now required for voting.
basically you can exist with an F on your license and birth certificate with a female name, and use that in everyday life, but meanwhile have an M on your passport, which also has your female name. you can then be scrutinized or accused of fraud for having mismatching information, such as when travelling abroad, applying for visas as a foreigner, or when returning to the united states from abroad. this is ultimately the goal, there is no other aim except to establish broadband misery for no real reason.
Anonymous No.41598098 [Report] >>41598160
>>41598024
It started around 2015 when the "tipping point" and "call me Caitlyn" both happened and we became massively more visible. I'd had my vajayjay for years by that point, and things had been just fine without all the visibility.
Anonymous No.41598113 [Report] >>41598125
>>41598066
Woe is me you had to get srs

WAAHHHH WAHHHH
Anonymous No.41598114 [Report]
>>41597841
ok. do u really think this is your day of the rope?
Anonymous No.41598125 [Report]
>>41598113
SRS should be a hard requirement for a legal sex change.
Anonymous No.41598129 [Report] >>41598195
>>41597839
okiiiii keep posting angrily about how this is somehow gonna change my life (it's not) and dreaming about finding and killing me!
Anonymous No.41598148 [Report] >>41598455 >>41604043
>>41598073
There seems to be a couple of groups of people

1) had a passport possible from childhood, with a name and gender that does not match their current
2) have a passport under the current name/gender, but submitted documentation to get it to that point
3) never had a passport have all their documents changed to their current name/gender
4) post-2021 enbies who just wanted X, and submitted nothing to validate

1) seems screwed
2) Possibly screwed
3) should be fine if documentation is in order (to get passport)
4) who the fuck cares they are the tipping point
Anonymous No.41598160 [Report]
>>41598098
>and things had been just fine without all the visibility.

Agreed
Anonymous No.41598186 [Report]
What does it actually matter? Just move to a blue state, transfer your driver's license over, and change the sex marker on it. I cannot remember what I last had to use my passport for that wasn't flying internationally, and when you're doing that, do you really think the airport staff will care that your passport sex marker doesn't match your presentation?
Anonymous No.41598195 [Report] >>41598209
>>41598129
But I dont want to do that, I'm in fact searching for my transwife.
Anonymous No.41598204 [Report] >>41598213
realistically my drivers license has F on it, my name is changed, i can get my birth cert done whenever. i hadnt gotten my passport this year because i dont fly frequently and also already have one with M on it. i figured if i submitted the court order name change, when the supreme court did what they did today they'd class action undo everyone who applied after may 2025 to their AGAB and also have them on a list. i guess for now im still fine? if i really need to fly like worst case i can girlmode and get frowned at with my male passport, but i can also fly domestically with my sex F real id lol. to leave the country i dont really think it matters that much. i could dress female and get looked at, or just sort of dress androgynously and get looked at. its not like this changes anything besides that lol
Anonymous No.41598209 [Report] >>41598242
>>41598195
she doesnt want you though weirdo
Anonymous No.41598213 [Report] >>41598224 >>41598236
>>41598204
trans women are larping men
Anonymous No.41598224 [Report] >>41598629 >>41598655 >>41604298
>>41598213
i like how you say this because i pass irl and have no problem and nothing changed today lol. i smile reading this because u wont find me!!!!
Anonymous No.41598236 [Report] >>41598241
>>41598213
It's sad how many of them think that their passport reading M will change anything. Anyone checking their passport is still gonna think, "Yep, that's a troon."
Anonymous No.41598241 [Report]
>>41598236
how often do u think someone looks at my passport?
Anonymous No.41598242 [Report] >>41598255 >>41598614
>>41598209
Says you
Anonymous No.41598255 [Report]
>>41598242
well any tranny who wants a guy who spends his free time making fun of trans women for supposedly losing rights should be happily ever after with you lol
Anonymous No.41598455 [Report] >>41598491 >>41602302
>>41598148
re: #3, no.
the federal government still has records of your birth sex, it literally does not matter at all what the birth certificate says. the federal government will fucking ignore that entirely. because the social security admin has records of your sex at birth, and when they cross-reference your documentation when you apply they will refer to THEIR records and say absolutely fuck you to what your amended certificate and corrected documentation says. #3 is just as screwed as 1 and 2.
mind you though all of this is only (seemingly) relevant to passports filed under the Orr v. Trump injunction of this year. if you had your passport processed before 2025 then you might be in the clear for now, but even thats in the air because some people had their passports in processing before the ban. say you filed in december 2024 and it takes 8-12 weeks for you to get it back. then in the middle of the process, january 21st 2025 happened and all gender changes were banned from federal documents. some people got theirs through, some didnt and had to file as a plaintiff under Orr v. Trump later in february.
the only real hope is that with how utterly fucking inept the government currently is, the scramble to revoke thousands of valid already-issued passports will be so low in priority that it gets lost in the shuffle. and they focus on more important things like cutting off healthcare to impoverished amputees and canceling foodstamps for single mothers. it also opens them up to a flurry of continuous lawsuits from the ACLU and blue state AG's and it might just tire the big stupid beast out enough to give up. but i have my doubts. even if they leave Orr v. Trump plaintiffs alone it still bars gender marker changes for anyone seeking one after today. its unclear just how much more the ACLU can gum up their cruelty machine.
Anonymous No.41598491 [Report] >>41598615
>>41598455
lol sucks to be an american tranny rn
Anonymous No.41598614 [Report] >>41598627
>>41598242
>the transphobe is a chaser
why does this happen every time?
Anonymous No.41598615 [Report]
>>41598491
literally nothing has changed
Anonymous No.41598627 [Report]
>>41598614
quite a lot of men who date women absolutely hate women and want them to suffer as a class. not sure why you’d think a lot of the men who date trans women would somehow be different
Anonymous No.41598629 [Report] >>41599331
>>41598224
passing is a myth, you look male and lie online
Anonymous No.41598655 [Report] >>41599331
>>41598224
Your writing style is pure autohebephilia, you disgusting creep.
Anonymous No.41598672 [Report]
>>41597107 (OP)
based af
Anonymous No.41599309 [Report]
>>41597392
Europe is always 5 minutes away from just following after the US.
Anonymous No.41599317 [Report] >>41599326
>>41597684
Kissinger got to over 100 lmao
Anonymous No.41599326 [Report]
>>41599317
What if he was actually one of the good guys, and was mistakenly hated?
Anonymous No.41599331 [Report] >>41599357
>>41598629
>>41598655
damn that post made you seethe lmao
Anonymous No.41599357 [Report] >>41599440
>>41599331
Took you an hour to figure out what autohebephilia is, huh?
Anonymous No.41599440 [Report] >>41599472
>>41599357
that wasn't me, keep seething though kek
Anonymous No.41599472 [Report] >>41599515 >>41602140
>>41599440
Imagine seething so fucking hard that you post silly lies like "passing is a myth" every single day on a bunch of posts. It's one of the more pathetic things I've seen on this board
Anonymous No.41599515 [Report]
>>41599472
it really is sad and pathetic
Anonymous No.41599549 [Report] >>41601290
>>41597107 (OP)
.
Anonymous No.41601290 [Report]
>>41599549
Based Charlie Kirk?
Anonymous No.41602032 [Report] >>41603747
>>41597447
People need to stop saying this. Normal religious people don’t want this, brainrotted retarded conservatives want this
Anonymous No.41602042 [Report]
>>41597107 (OP)
really glad i got my passport with my updated marker last year
Anonymous No.41602046 [Report]
>>41597823
Does IL do this?
Anonymous No.41602067 [Report] >>41602083
>>41598066
2010 rules are probably the most reasonable, that is where China is now btw (approximately, you don't need a neovag but they require an orchi or hysterechtomy)
Anonymous No.41602083 [Report] >>41604257
>>41602067
i think the neovagina was really emphasized early on by doctors thinking in terms of genetalia = sex, but eventually it seems like tranny doctors got away from that line of thinking since its not elegant and essential like HRT is and the social/aesthetic aspects are more important anyways
Anonymous No.41602140 [Report]
>>41599472
it was even easier to pass before the troonpocalypse since people just assumed you were a weird looking woman
Anonymous No.41602302 [Report]
>>41598455
idk about this. ive actually asked a couple federal employees about this and they said its super difficult to access the social security records. most of the time they dont even bother unless something about your documents is out of order
Anonymous No.41603747 [Report]
>>41602032
conservatism is faith
Anonymous No.41603973 [Report] >>41604043
>>41597723
they either miss it and you get a passport or you get stuck in bureaucratic hell
also in the first case you get to fret way more than normal about what happens if you lose it
Anonymous No.41604043 [Report]
>>41598148
continuing my post in >>41603973

I am in group 3 and got the passport under biden rules. There's probably no easily found administrative records in the state department (i.e. a search for one person with two genders won't find me)
also my birth cert says amended, so if they look at it again I'm sunk. but that's probably hard to find without either cross referencing all social security records (apparently not routine although that could change) or searching all past passport applications (uh they're going to redirect their already understaffed workers to this project... sadly maybe). so I'm safe for now unless the damn thing gets lost somehow.

the fact that the supreme court basically ignores that we've changed sex (the framing as "we want a passport with the wrong sex" is entirely accepted) is the scary part. they did this with the celebrated employment discrimination case too: the logic was "men can wear dresses at work."
assuming democrats win next year congress could pass some law allowing pasports etc. but I guarantee that framing will be used even if so. the logic is never "they changed sex" and always "we can make an accommodation please thank us because we might revoke it at any point." that's why biden never said that since trans women are female we don't have to register for the draft and why things like prisons were still enormous uphill battles even then (now it's just impossible).
meanwhile a naked me would be recognized as female by anyone, but who cares I'm sure I'm male.
Anonymous No.41604243 [Report] >>41604264 >>41604269 >>41604429
>>41597146
>IF I CAN'T LIE ON MY PASSPORT I'LL KILL MYSELF AND IT'LL BE ALL YOUR FAULT!
Why are trannies such hateful absusers?
Anonymous No.41604257 [Report]
>>41602083
its because the old system of rights where you're legally a male till the instant you get SRS is really stupid even if you want srs.
Anonymous No.41604264 [Report] >>41604318
>>41604243
i have to be unnecessarily cruel to an already marginalized population just trying to deal with their medical issues.. i just have to okay!!! you fat greasy retard go dunk ur head in a fryer
Anonymous No.41604268 [Report]
>>41597508
>The MAGA backlash will cement trans rights in marble.
Just like the last MAGA backlash did, right? Oh wait, no, that got you tipping your hand and now normalfags are turning on you.
Anonymous No.41604269 [Report] >>41604293 >>41604318
>>41604243
enjoy your time in the sun chuddy. not like this changes anything whatsoever, and 15 years from now your silly roberts court will have all its rulings repealed from citizens united onwards
Anonymous No.41604293 [Report]
>>41604269
> roberts court will have all its rulings repealed
yeah lol they dont really seem to realize the level of Final Boss Woke theyre in for
Anonymous No.41604298 [Report] >>41604327
>>41598224
People not pointing at you and screaming "YOU'RE A MAN!" in public doesn't mean they're fooled.
Anonymous No.41604318 [Report] >>41604357
>>41604264
>>41604269
That has nothing to do with how you threaten suicide to get what you want. Because you're abusers, and that's what abusers do.
Anonymous No.41604327 [Report] >>41604347
>>41604298
yeah i mean we're generally a bit more aware of these things than you guys because we live it lol. i remember being clocky for a bit. people look at you differently when you pass, especially women and the compliments they give you are wildly different. everything feels very fake before. anyways its not like anything i type out will make u believe me. the point isnt to convince you i pass. if you believed that youd probably try harder rather than just yapping on the internet convinced that my life has changed in the past 24 hours
Anonymous No.41604332 [Report] >>41605712
>why did doctors shift from the old module to the new module.
money. if you expand the criteria you can rake in more money. hrt is an easy cash cow. srs is one and done. so they went with hrt as it's recurrent and then can continually take money from them like other subscription based modules.

the people that don't think srs should be the accepted threshold are transphobes that want to cry that a penis can be feminine. it cannot. erectile dysfunction is not feminine. a penis is a male sex characteristic. simple as. if you get srs the state should recognize it.
Anonymous No.41604347 [Report] >>41604357
>>41604327
>we're generally a bit more aware of these things
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.41604357 [Report]
>>41604347
>>41604318
okiiiii! anyways i hope you enjoy your day to day lives as much as I do
Anonymous No.41604363 [Report] >>41604404
>>41597146
>give me what I want or I will kill myself and that will be your fault
Anonymous No.41604404 [Report]
>>41604363
i mean, if you'd just let them we'd sort out all this fake tranny shit real quick. majority of them don't have the balls to go through with it. they're just doing it for attention.
Anonymous No.41604429 [Report]
>>41604243
>lie
Sperg thinking
Anonymous No.41605712 [Report]
>>41604332
>hrt is an easy cash cow
>hrt
>generic drug (no patents) that anyone can produce for cheap taken by less than 1% of the population

lol