Thread 24458557

To What Extent Can We Be Certain That Jesus of Nazareth Was a Historical Figure? Books about that?

>>24458557 (OP)
>To What Extent Can We Be Certain That Jesus of Nazareth Was a Historical Figure?
I'm inclined to believe it's based on some real figure but the entire story is 95% fabrication

>>24458557 (OP)
Read Albert Schweitzer

>>24458571
Wrong, it was so true

>>24458589
Yeah no. Post hoc fiction most likely.

>>24458608
You whole life is fictional and you doesn't exist then

>>24458557 (OP)
You don’t need to read a book to know he was a real person. Why would Paul and the other early Christians invent a guy that numerous people were writing about? And Tacitus said he was a real person who was crucified under Pilate

>>24458621
Maybe he was fake and all of that was a dream like the retard above said

>>24458613
Quit whining over the fact that your desert cult leader's story was fabricated by his cult followers after his death.

It's far more likely that he was just another doomsday cultist with a little following who got rightfully btfoe'd by Romans for disturbing public order in jewish communities. And then his followers made up entire lies of his life story, including prophecy, virgin birth, the miracles (which could've been parlour tricks granted) and ressurection. 100 years after his death

>>24458632
You are so fake, you are shallow of something greater, that's it

>>24458633
>you are shallow of something greater
Is that what they call having more than two brain cells and not trusting stories of magic men and their doomsday prophecies these days? Keep your lies to yourself

>>24458641
You should trust more

>>24458642
I trust alright. I trust a lot. Just not stories of magic with hidden agendas

>>24458670
You simply don't like us, we don't like you too, it's alright

>>24458673
I don't give a fuck about you and I don't have to inorder to know that the Jesus story is fake

>>24458557 (OP)
Why haven't the mods banned this Freemason or Catholic faggot with his effeminate idolatry spam yet?

>>24458678
well then why you waste our time and yours

>>24458682
gfto nigger

>>24458722
I'm just answering the thread. Don't like it? Leave the board

>>24458725
you lie a lot here.

>>24458742
The only obvious lie is that this man was a song of God. A claim with only parlour tricks to show for it, besides other lies about virgin birth and resurrection (both impossible)

>>24458744
all what you said and has to offer is lies beyond lies you are beyond redemption

>>24458763
Whatever dude. Keep believing that sky magic man made women pregnant without sexo and magic desert dude became zombie. Nobody stopping you fr being an idiot

>>24458770
keep beliving in nothing, bro, let us see what that will get you

>>24458744
You ever think that maybe the ancient world was,metaphysically removed from modern conceptions of reality?

this one

>>24458621
Tacitus does not say that, he merely mentions that Christians were used as a scapegoat for the fire of Rome during Nero's reign.

>>24458633
Rarely has defeat been conceded so abjectly.

>>24458777
>let us see what that will get you
We should all listen to this guy. He's got the best trailer in the park.

>>24461172
There was a man referred to as Christ or The Christ by people that was killed by order of Pilate. That much is undeniable. Tacitus didn't care enough about Christians and their culture to do a deep dive and reported things as was given to him. So he never mentions "Rabbi Yeshua of Nazareth" and seems to misunderstand the "Christ" was not his name, but his title-- not much different than how people today who only know "Jesus Christ" and some don't know "Yeshua" and even the more ignorant thinking that Christ is a last name.

>>24458571
>Follow a guy
>Invent 99% of this teachings which were all revolutionary for the time
>Portray yourselves, the true teachers, as doubting, skeptical, and sometimes cowardly followers
>Continue this ruse even after this random guy you decide to paint as a hero dies a horrible death
>Get tortured to death yourself never recanting this story

And none of this takes into account how nonsensical it is that Jesus would even be killed by the Pharisees if his teachings + actions were made up by some other people. That means the real Jesus was doing something else entirely and then just got brutally murdered for no reason.

>>24462393
which means that Tacitus is useless as a source, since he just parrots whatever Christians told him

>>24462912
No, he still's a source checker and he checked to see if that event happened.

>>24462642
>and then just got brutally murdered for no reason
The practice of scapegoating had been rooted in Jewish culture for centuries.

>>24464262
But that means this random rabbi got scapegoated and everyone bought it. Even though the majority of the hatred was from what the Pharisees were seeing with their own eyes, they decide to bring attention to a random guy when they didn't need to? The Pharisees were in power within their own community, there was no need to lie about a false prophet. That makes less sense than a guy was actually pissing them off.

It is a work consisting of nine published books, created by the Spanish journalist and writer Juan José Benítez. They narrate the life of Jesus of Nazareth, according to the account of a time traveler from the 20th century.

https://www.4shared.com/s/fboxiuM0cfa