Do you wagecuck or NEET in your country?

I wagecuck but from home so I do very little infrequently. The worst part of my job is talking to my coworkers that I despise once a week and knowing the lack of prestige and compensation is taking me nowhere fast. Beyond that, it’s comfy.

>>24468694 (OP)
I wagecuck as a salaried professional. Maybe one day I’ll work for myself, or own part of the company I currently work at.

NEET at the moment

neetcuck

>>24468694 (OP)
I teach retards once a week, supervise students' projects ("how's the project going? good? good job, ok bye"), let pajeets and AI do the grading and shit out a paper once every year
I get paid to go to exotic countries for conferences and undergrad girls bite their lip when I tell them I'm doing a phd

I'm currently NEET because I lost previous jobs from alcoholism and I currently have 7 months of sobriety and haven't been hired anywhere yet

>>24468694 (OP)
Trauma NEETs like me are a cut above other NEETs as we can't even spend our time productively due to torturous mental static and flashbacks destroying every liveable moment. But yes, I'm a NEET and have been since I dropped out of college.

>>24468694 (OP)
I'm currently a public school special education teacher as well as local union president.
I'm taking this summer as my first summer off as an adult to just relax and enjoy the books I've been piling up for years. I'm just finishing Bukowski and I'm moving onto Pynchon.
In my youth I did what I assume we all do with Gravity's Rainbow-get hooked in by the captivating opening set-piece and then it decimates. I'm looking forward to trying it again. I've read the Crying of Lot 49 and I'm working my way through the rest of his material beforehand.

I'm beyond being a NEET, I'm a 27-year-old hikkikomori. Which is a pain because I don't receive any money from the government and my mother only earns the minimum wage.

NEET

33yo never worked in my life

>>24469368
Hey, I wrote this post and instead of making a new thread I figured I can support this one by co-opting it with a subtopic.
I'm at a crossroads of my life where I can go all in on my profession (education), but this is the first summer ever where I really am just reading and writing every day. It's amazing. I can retool my life to incorporate this on a daily basis if I ceased any additional labor and union work, essentially killing my ambition in one area (professional) to repurpose it in another (personal).
The question is, should I?
What would a lifetime spent reading and writing net me at the end of it? I feel as though by consistently sticking my neck out for others, constantly attending events/conferences/summits/think tanks, I am being exposed to a side of life I had never considered before and it is fostering immense personal growth. How long do I allow that to persist before I pivot towards my true passion (literature/writing)?
I appreciate anyone who takes the time to respond. Please take this photo as a token of my gratitude. It was taken from the government housing apartment I grew up in. The woman who raised me has since passed and I can no longer access this view, it lives only in my memories as well as in photographs.

NEET. I stepped off the adulthood track, because I couldn't remember why I was walking. Got a few month of it left, before I'm forced into movement.

>>24468694 (OP)
NEET, career derailed by factors outside my control years ago, gave up, started reading a lot more.

>>24468702
1 work from home incel
>>24468707
1 normie
>>24468818
>>24468820
>>24469338
>>24469353
>>24469387
>>24469390
6 NEETs
>>24469332
>>24469368
2 retarded class schoolteachers

Grim composition of /lit/. Never nice to see it laid out like that.

>>24469454
>misses posts sent over five minutes before his
Guess we can add you to the retarded class

>>24469456
And 1 faggot nigger

>>24469397
I'm in essentially the same position as you, trying to decide whether to go to grad school or focus on literature/writing. You should do what makes you happy and actually want to live (personally, even the thought of a corporate life makes me suicidal), but you should also consider your future. Professional development can open up an entire new world for you, given that you can work your way up to a nice salary. Have you thought of merging the two? I take it that you teach at the middle/high school level, but perhaps you can try getting a position at a local community college. Something like that would probably give you more time to write and read, and you may even teach those topics to others. Just food for thought.

>>24469472
Imagine going to grad school for humanities. Lmao. What is your PhD thesis gonna be on… the queer element of Horatio and 16th century literature?

>>24469454
make it 2 work from home incels

>>24468694 (OP)
I wagecuck, but I don't get paid
Instead I got free food, housing, internet and a room

>>24469476
I was thinking law. Not sure if that counts as grad school? Either way, you're preaching to the choir about humanities degrees being useless. I have one, I know.

>>24469454
bunch of failures and they spend all day reading philosophy. I thought philosophy made you smarter?

>>24469487
You don't need to supply bait to bump the thread, we're already talking.

>>24469490
it's not bait

>>24469483
Did this for the past year. It's comfy but there were lots of times that I wished I had money to spend. Now I'm going to uni with barely any savings.

>>24469454
as one of the 6 quoted i didnt expect to see so many NEETs here desu, 8 in total it seems. kind of intriguing. a sign of the times as well. i sympathize deeply with my fellow NEETs on many levels but i also think we are a bad symptom. i do not encourage NEETism but it is what it is, im just being honest. with that said i hope someone can elaborate better on this

>>24469496
based tateposter

30 year old NEET here. I haven’t participated in society in 16 years

>>24468694 (OP)
Professional with my own practice

>>24469397
It sounds worth it. It is not as if, should you follow your passion, you would have to completely give up your job - and that union work stuff must be very boring.
To me a lifetime of reading and writing would be like a dream. This is what I try to do. I work 2 jobs but both are very easy desk jobs so I usually have the energy do at least some of both.
Wish you all the best and thanks for the beautiful photograph!

NEETbros how do you survive? I mean, aside from living with your parents which I assume most of you do

to continue my post >>24469503

i wonder if NEETism is mostly caused by a) neurodivergence (the 'tism) or if it's due to the b) lost sense of vocation, sense of one's purpose. not to mention the c) dehumanizing nature of jobs, the so called 'rat race' etc

but i can also add: is a) really neurodivergence or is it a matter of personality types? do all NEETs share the same types or are in the same group?

>>24469472
I suppose the good part about our situation is that we have the luxury to choose. I did a bulk of my reading when I was a teenager (not much income for other distractions), now that I've become the kind of person to be found perpetually reading anywhere I'm feeling the drive to take it to the next level.
I am in coordination with my local community college's education chair in order to transition into a job there.
Thanks for the food for thought.
>>24469517
Thank you! The union work is a bit more tedium than I'd like, but when it is exhilarating there's nothing like it.

>>24469486
At least it wasn't CS

>>24469524
TraumaNEET >>24469353 here and I just claim benefits while living with my parents who have written me their house in their will, so I will probably die here. Not happy about it but I don't have a choice (those NEETs who do get to decide are lucky, I'm friends with one guy who just doesn't want to work and feigns illness)

>>24469530
All of these reasons may well go hand in hand or be triggers for each other. Even so, the term NEET is somewhat ambiguous if we want to talk about it on a broader sociological scale, especially considering the number of young people in this situation that the media seems alarmed about lately.

>>24468694 (OP)
I'm going back to university for accounting in September, and once I'm done with that I'm a bit on the fence of whether to pursue a CPA (chartered professional accountant) designation - which, basically everyone in life is telling me to do, since, it's hard work to get the designation, but it basically doubles your earning potential and guarantees you'll always have work.
The thing is, I want to write, I want to be an artist, and pursuing a designation is gonna be another few years of hard work delaying that and after that I get the impression I'm going to be busy with the required professional obligations. Especially so if I go into a public accounting firm, where, from what I've heard, the work tends to follow you home. Any other /lit/ have any experience/perspective on this issue?

Basically I feel torn between career and artistic aspirations. I really just hope they won't need to be mutually exclusive things.

I've started working for the last month as a kitchen hand as my first job
I can only get 15 or so hours a week
It feels really good to work
I enjoy working with my coworkers, as a long term NEET without money issues I'm very calm and don't throw tantrums when stressed like most wagies do
I feel like I've talked to people more the past month than I have the past 3-4 years and I want to improve my social skills and become a more personable person
Also I feel like since working I read more instead of wasting my time on the internet

>>24469524
live with parents. my grandfather was quite wealthy but i got to witness the millenar wisdom that wealth can be easily destroyed within ONE bad generation. a wealthy grandfather can have almost destitute grandchildren, the romans knew this well. i still earn enough to not have to work but it's not near enough what wouldve been if the previous generation had a single drop of benevolence towards their children

at one point in recent history parents simply stopped caring about the success of their children, they not only neglected the transmission of real wisdom, but also gave up on financially investing in their children's futures. and now i see everywhere mothers with babies already addicted to mobile phones – and nobody does anything. nobody is concerned with the true well being of their children, nobody is thinking about the long term prospects, what real education means. it's absolutely grim

if a bad generation of boomers caused so many dysfunctional NEETs imagine what this generation that is delegating all their care to mobile phones will cause

>>24469619
How do you earn without working?

>>24469635
with what is left of my grandfather's property which wasn't up for dissipation by his children

>>24469499
Personally I quite liked it, it doesn't leave me much time to write and paint, but I think it kinda forces me to be more consistent too

>>24469584
CPA isn't a bad gig. Kafka wagecucked as a professional. Get your designation then chill out you will have all the time in the world and the case writing gets you disciplined for writing long form.

>>24469641
You rent it out?

>>24469687
yes but the property is land for farm crops, not buildings

>>24469704
I believe the term is self-EMPLOYED

turn in your card

>>24469710
i am NEET

>>24469704
>>24469687
Sounds a bit idyllic. Do you live on it? Or out in the city and just collect the lease cheques every month? How do you organize it/find tenants, anyways? Or does someone else in the family do it for you?

Either way, bouncing off "I got to witness the millenar(sic) wisdom that wealth can be easily destroyed within ONE bad generation." I'd recommend reading up more on finance, savings, budgeting, how loans work, how money markets work, how stocks and investment funds work, investment in general, and generally becoming financially literate, since, as it stands, you're already something of a modern landlord (take offense if you wish.) with streams of passive income from a portfolio of real estate holdings, and, with an actual job to meet your basic needs (food, internet, ect), and proper budgeting and saving to expand your portfolio, you could snowball that back into wealth and prestige, since, you're already starting from a better position than most people.

>>24469710
Technically, this is income from property, not income from employment, thus still qualifying anon as a NEET.

>>24469635
Neetbux, my stipend is 2600 a month

>>24469503
24 y.o. NEET here. perfect grades in high school top of my class, went to college and realized I missed the starting gun. no one told me how anything works (immigrant parents) so I couldn't navigate socially and didn't know what to get career-wise out of college

desu, and I think no one wants to or knows how to articulate this even on 4chan, I think sexual humiliation is a big factor. In the US you go to college as a normal man and get the impression that most of the girls around you are having sex and going out every weekend. You can't do that because you're a normal man and didn't join a frat. so you have to spend your weekends playing vidya or nightwalking. It's not even a matter of not having friends, you have friends and they're mostly dudes so you can't get into parties. Or you befriend a woman/group of women and you're beholden to them to let into these functions and then it doesn't even matter as much because you're already fucking the girl who let you in, so the function of parties as sexual access to the opposite sex is moot.

Again you're not a spastic or actually autistic or anything, maybe a bit withdrawn or shy and certainly not ugly. But these things are not enough as a man, and no one told you that. So eventually you figure it out and become masculine and get a girl or two and you realize it's still so much effort it's not worth it a lot of the time. Why would I stress myself over meaningless work? nobody seems to want me anywhere, having to kick and fight 24/7 to justify your existence in places while women just coast and society pretends like we're all having equal experiences is straight up degrading.

people go where they're appreciated and if they're not appreciated in employment, education or training they're not gonna go there if they can get all their basic needs covered by mom and dad's house and vidya/anime/porn/whatever other band-aid escapist solution.

>>24469590
your experience reminds me of myself the last time I was employed part-time in 2019.
that little bit of managed time motivates one to use their own time 10x better somehow

>>24469590
>>24469749
ya normys at my work think i am deranged for breaking up my vacations with like one work day a week, but if i just have like 14 days off in a row i'll just end up shitposting and gooning the whole time, so to stay motivated to actually do shit, i come in like one day a week, not to mention it slightly extends the vacation by a day per week, and it reminds me to do the shit i want. it's a good "life hack" if u will.

>>24469764
Well that’s extremely pathetic. How do you feel knowing your bloodline ends with you and you probably will be priced out of a home in the next 15 years?

>>24469773
well good luck extending your bloodline or affording a home without a job buddy

>>24469796
I’m on neetbux. So is my gf. We have state housing and together collect over 5k a month from the government, who will pay us even more to have a kid kek, it’s like another 1000 a month.

I am a student which means I study some mathematics each semester + 2 textbooks with exercises
basically a neet

>>24469749
>that little bit of managed time motivates one to use their own time 10x better somehow
This is something I've noticed. You absolutely need structure in your life, because if you don't, you just literally never get anything done. Its the NEET paradox: infinite amounts of free time, but absolutely nothing to do in it. When I was a NEET, I literally had all the time in the world and did absolutely nothing productive. When I wageslave, or go to school, I've got only like 4-5 hours of free time a day, but I can be on literally the whole time and get more work done than in 12 waking hours of NEEThood.

>>24469802
oh part of the slum dwelling breeder class i see, imagine calling others "extremely pathetic" lmao

>>24469808
I spend my days reading books and you spend yours seething at me just think about that

>>24469807
i think this could be the hardest part of entrepreneurship without partners or outside investors on ur ass to be productive, like whatever it is, u can always do it tomorrow...

>>24469731
someone else manages it. i live in the city far from the land

i think about investing in stocks in the future, but only after hitting mid 6 figures or 7 figs. what ive been doing is buy crapto since 21 (but the market for alts never truly ran since). still managed to build a decent portfolio that hit over 300k early this year but i wasnt smart enough to sell it. my plan is to sell all land (although this is highly controversial and everyone would try to dissuade me) and disappear. i believe i can generate more money off investments than rent, and i could buy my own small piece of land somewhere else

i live frugally and i aim for something like 8-10k/month to be set for life. i dont really need this money, but i'd like to start a family – i crave connection and nothing else. if i end up single for the rest of my life then i dont care whether i make 3k or 20k, if i live in my own place or in my parent's

>>24469814
i don't even think about you or anyone else who lives in the bad part of town

>>24469808
There's nothing more pathetic than slaving away to give another man hooker and drug money, slave faggot cuck.

>>24469821
>i believe i can generate more money off investments than rent, and i could buy my own small piece of land somewhere else
I'm with your family on this one in generally recommending to not liquidate your real estate position, since, compared to other passive income investments real estate can generally be counted on to stably appreciate in value, and, of course, there's the eventual odds of being able to sell it to land developers or the government or whomever for something like five to six times what you paid for it, which you don't get from any other investment besides rugpulling shitcoins.

>i believe i can generate more money off investments than rent,
In practice, the opposite is true; real property generally has a higher rate of return than financial instruments, hence why it's basically always a hot button commodity, and why its generally always increasing in price in this economy.

Stocks are a good choice if you plan on actively managing your portfolio. If not, you're generally better off investing in fixed income instruments (bonds, ect) and investment funds (mutual funds, exchange traded funds, ect, which also have the advantage of benefiting heavily from diversification far beyond what most individual investors can do on their own) which are more stable in terms of price fluctuations and require less active management on your end. Crypto, too, generally requires active portfolio management and day trading to make the most gains possible. If you're in need of funds, though, I'd say liquidate your crypto holdings since I don't see another big run-up in altcoin prices (although any knowers should chime in if they've got evidence to the contrary) happening soon, if ever.

NEET for 2.5 years, had a job for 2 years before that and before that I was a NEET for 2 years. Couldn't adapt well to the office environment

>>24469841
i appreciate your advice and will think about it. my reasoning would be that catching something like another BTC bottom would guarantee at least a 100% gain which is more than any possible land appreciation happening in a small time frame. as you may well know BTC bottomed at ~15k and is now at 104k, if it were to hit let's say 30k again would anyone not think about going all in? i'd be willing to risk it

>I'd say liquidate your crypto holdings since I don't see another big run-up in altcoin prices (although any knowers should chime in if they've got evidence to the contrary) happening soon, if ever.
ive stopped following crypto closely but there are some possible cases for a blow off top since some indicators didnt flash and there's the possible correlation with global liquidity. my PoW alt of choice has some utility and is not a total vc scam, i dont think it can go much lower

>>24468694 (OP)
I'm an infantryman in the Army
I've been a machine gunner, sniper, and squad leader, and the whole time ai've also been a kissless virgin weirdo with a shelf full of philosophy and manga and stuff at home
It's an abstract kind of feel, basically no one from either part of my life understands the other part

>most of the anons here are NEETs
You guys are using your free time to make a living from writing r-right?