Did these guys ruin atheism?

Nah, it was that fat banana boy.

>>24471157 (OP)
No, they're pretty good at showing what atheism is all about.

>>24471157 (OP)

>>24471157 (OP)
Sam was the only based one

>>24471293
Hey, it's Epstein's buddy! You know, the guy who said he used science to establish Epstein wasn't guilty.

>ruin atheism
Yes, I believe in jewish mythology now because I'm insecure about being cringe.

.

>>24471293
How exactly does /pol/ cope with the fact that anti-Zionism is a mainstream leftist stance now?

>>24471358
Coping for what exactly? It's a good development.

>>24471298
>I never saw him fuck children so I'm not going to accuse him of fucking children
Wow what a villain.

>>24471355
I don't see how this is the own mexicans think it is when it just illustrates that you can value western inheritance without actually being a religious zealot. Thousands of right wing LARPers are literally the exact same way. They like cathedrals and crusaders, nothing more.

>>24471379
I just assume that all Jews fuck children desu

>>24471379
That was after Epstein was convicted of procuring a child for prostitution, brainlet.

>>24471157 (OP)
Yes

>>24471157 (OP)
I wish celebrity boxing was trendy when Christopher Hitchens was still live, would love to have seen him and his brother punch it out in the ring.

>>24471157 (OP)
nothing to ruin

yep

Yeah, three retarded celebrity atheist nepobabies ruined atheism...

Everything was going swimmingly for atheism before they showed up.

no

>>24471157 (OP)
Not really , no. The criticisms of religion they presented, though maybe memed as primitive based on no grounding whatsoever, are just as relevant now as they were back then. And those still form the fundamental ground for why religion and a belief in deities can be dispensed with altogether.

>>24471358
/pol/ are schizo retards who still support donald trump even though he the kike-in-chief that sends 50 gorillion goybucks to israel every microsecond.

>>24472622
People who were persuaded by petty adhominems and appeals to social conformity with the "fedora meme" weren't cut out for Atheism anyway.

>>24472650
Atheism was always a fashion statement that fat losers used to feel superior to the normies that rejected them

>>24471358
They claim it as some kind of 'mass awakening' which they helped to instigate.
In reality every person opposed to what Israel is doing tries to avoid associations with the far right at all cost because far right optics are so hilariously bad that they inadvertently end up working to Israel's benefit.

>>24471358
Not only that, but the only demographic who still supports Israel is right leaning old people, who also happen to be the most religious. Big W for the atheists here.

>>24472622
The cope is delicious

>>24472622
The cope is delicious

>>24472930
That's just from boomers finally dying off. Christianity is actually growing among millenials and zoomies.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/decline-of-christianity-in-the-us-has-slowed-may-have-leveled-off/

>>24472935
>W-well, ach-achtually, Christianity has stopped declining for like 2 years now
>Um, yeah, I guess technically it just leveled off
Delicious

>>24471157 (OP)
Atheism is based Abrahamic fags deserve to be tied to train tracks

>>24472936
Sorry, Christian-bros keep winning.

>>24472957
kek, after losing 16 percentage points in as many years, you are rejoicing after recovering a single percentage point, and crowing victory? Absolutely hysterical!

>>24471298
Dawkins refused to condemn pedophilia, but he called it "child abuse" to teach your kids the Bible.

>>24472981
indeed. not very rational, is it ally. their imprecise thinking is their folly, as always

>>24472987
It doesn't take much for a religious person to beclown themselves

>>24472941
>t. pic related
Why do you pretend to appose Judaism and Islam? You never speak against them. You just say "le abrahamic" which only shows your utter ignorance and stupidity or just plain dishonestly. But all atheists are lying fools, so that's not surprising.

You're only upset with Christianity and because God is real and you hate God. You're not really bothered by Islam or Judaism (Talmudism). It's only the God of the Bible and Christianity that upsets you so into a violent subhuman ape monkey rage. I can see why atheists believe in the communist creation myth of evolution, because they're as dumb as an ape.

This thread also proves how gaytheists and fagnostics only really oppose Christianity, they're not raging at Hinduism or Scientology or Islam or the Talmud.

>>24472995
The God of the Christian Bible is a ludicrously ridiculous figure.

>>24472995
>This thread also proves how gaytheists and fagnostics only really oppose Christianity, they're not raging at Hinduism or Scientology or Islam or the Talmud.
Every time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsnjIS9azQ8

They really are just golem of the antichrist talmudic pharisee jews. You won't find any atheists today sounding the alarm over jews trying to criminalize the New Testament in America either, they'd all celebrate it because they're faggot communists who want a safe space from the Bible and Christianity. Even their activist groups like "freedom from religion" only really target Christians, and they're dishonest so they'll assert "separation of church and state" means no public appearance of Christianity is allowed, despite American laws used to be based on the Bible (like putting sodomites to death). Meanwhile, they don't care that their blind faith communist creation myths of the big bang, life from nonlife, and evolution of kids are tax-funded and taught as "settled science fact" despite violating all the laws of science. In order to be an atheist, not only do you have to deny science and the scientific method, but you have to remain deliberately ignorant.

>>24471358
>virtually everyone waking up to the crimes of the jew
>outside of deluded boomers 0 support
>'cope'
Seems like a pretty good development. Outside of memeflags and a couple isolated retards /pol/ is pleased with this turn of events

An enemy that numbers time in millennia with a cultural basis that goes back to preliterate man and symbolism rooted in primordial hominids appears!
>[(You)--Choose your fighter]!
a) Richard Dawkins: rat-faced evolutionary biologist who popularized the word meme (secret weapon: Scientism; weakness: Kafka)
b) Sam Harris: midwit who solved the problem of induction (secret weapon: meditation; weakness: complex thought)
c) Christopher Hitchens: reformed commie/former fag with great talent for rhetoric (secret weapon: alcoholic snark (aka Hitchslap); weakness: Neoconservatism)
d) Daniel Dennett: Saturday morning philosopher (secret weapon: midwit empowerment (aka Reddit); weakness: phenomenology)
>(You): WEAPONIZED CONDESCENTION! ALL FOUR HORSEMEN, I CHOOSE (You)s!
*****[Fight!]*****
>(You) choose: YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS, DO YOU?!
[Counter attack: nuance. Enemy isn't 4 and is unimpressed you don't believe in Santa. Attack is ineffective.]
>(You) choose: WHY DON'T YOU WORSHIP ZEUS?!
[Counter attack: nuance. Myth is meaningful in a way not reducible to materialism. Attack is ineffective.]
>(You) choose: SCIENCE THOUGH!
[Counter attack: nuance. Enemy brings up the history of science and its complex relationship/continuing interplay with religion. Attack is ineffective.]
>(You) choose: FEDORA TIP!
[Counter attack: enemy is laughing.]
>(You) choose: NO YOU!
[Counter attack: enemy is laughing.]
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>[(You) have fainted.]

>>24471358
Horseshoe theory. Chuds and poltroons are often in agreement.

>>24471157 (OP)
The guy on the far right looks like my narcissistic former boss

>>24472981
>kek, after losing 16 percentage points in as many years, you are rejoicing after recovering a single percentage point
Only 37 more to go.

>>24473013
Sam Harris is perhaps best known for saying "Islam is the mother lode of bad ideas", and Dawkins has stated repeatedly that Islam is more abhorrent than Christianity, so this criticism falls flat.

>>24471157 (OP)
Atheism ruins themself, because it's just contrarianism against your culture. It's cool and edgy when you are in the minority, but when you start to prevail, people fill the emptiness in their soul by believing in anything like horoscopes, ai-god, new-age cults

>>24473151
Christianity is no bulwark against any of that though

>>24473013
Except all the people responsible for funding and supporting israel are christcucks

>>24473013
The Christian victim complex truly knows no bounds, it's very funny. No wonder you guys are totally cucked to the jews and submissive to muslims

>>24471157 (OP)
>UHMMMM YOU DON'T NEED TO BELIEVE IN GOD TO FOLLOW CHRISTIAN MORALITY TO A DEGREE GREATER THAN MOST CHRISTIANS DO!!!
a winning message, to be sure

>>24471358
none of their anti-zionism is effective and based on ridiculous principles like "it's bad for states to engage in violence"

>>24473324
christian morality is a term coined by christians

>>24473336
are you suggesting that liberal atheist morality is fundamentally different from christian morality?

>>24473344
it's actually the exact opposite

>>24473353
nigga greeks and romans didn't follow anything even close to morality. indians don't. muslims don't.

>>24472636
wow

>>24472936
Yes but did you realise atheists are generally gay or sexless and don’t have kids so in 40 years you will the the old losers dying off that the kids a mocking ?

>>24472622
>People larping online = saved souls according to The Church
lmao might as well say a pr*t is saved.

>>24471157 (OP)
Hitchen's views on mother teresa and the clintons are worth hearing out

>>24473310
why did christianity change from their "hang ever yid" stance?

>>24473682
Holocaust prop and the 19th century British in origin belief that Zionism / all Jews from around the world returning to Palestine coincided with a prophecy about Christ’s return.

>>24473675
His views on mother Theresa are not worth hearing out

>>24473137
Oh wow, some literal who said one thing against Islam? So brave and beautiful. When is he going to transition?
>>24473308

Nice deflection, cowards.

And the zionist "Christian" cults aren't Christian. Details in the Bible.

>>24473344
Atheist "morality" is raping dogs and faggotry.
>>>/an/5001644

>>24473310
Christians are literally being genocided in Syria and Congo.

Meanwhile, all the faggot pedophile tranny atheists do is rail against and lie about Christianity. You golems do the bidding of the Jews all the time, it's literally all you subhuman trash do.


And none of you proved me wrong either.

>>24473808
>Oh wow, some literal who said one thing against Islam?
He said it countless times including on national television and still does. I don't think there's any atheist that focuses on Islam more than Sam Harris, it borders on autistic hyperfixation, and certainly more than the other two people in the OP.
Do you know what thread you're in?

In a way, yes because atheism was always retarded and these guys just made their pathetic debates a public spectacle that everyone could see. Thanks to these guys, atheism got eviscerated on a big stage publicly for the first time. Before them, they didn’t even debate.

>>24473395
The catholic cult literally teaches that it's a sin to believe the bible, like believing the gospel according to John or the 1st epistle of John chapter 5.
>I. John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

And you shouldn't even have a Bible either, since your cult would torture people to death for having one or teaching from it or teaching their kids the Lord's prayer or translating the Bible into the vernacular. Be like the Mexicans who were kept illiterate until the 1900s by the Catholic cult and don't post ever again.

And no catholics ever get saved because they believe salvation by works, not by faith alone. They'll hear "I never knew you" because they never did the will of the Father (that's God the Father, not some boylover pope or priest). And most protestants don't get saved because they're too catholic and trust in works as well just like the Muslims or Talmudists or Hindus. All false religion teaches salvation by works since it's man-centered. True religion is God-centered and salvation is based on what God did for us, not what we can do for him. You want to glory in yourself and your flesh.
>Ephesians 2:8-9
>8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
>9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

>Matthew 7:21-23
>21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
>22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
>23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

>John 6:39-40
>39And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
>40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

>I. Corinthians 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

>>24473817
>Do you know what thread you're in?
In a thread that atheists want to be a hugbox echo chamber for their retarded lies and slanders.

>>24473812
>Atheist "morality" is raping dogs and faggotry.
nah it's basic bitch christcuckery where no one should do harm to anyone or infringe on the rights of anyone.

>>24473762
death cultist scammer

>>24473831
>shown literal evidence
>"nah"
Atheism requires deliberate ignorance.

It's why 99% of atheist criticism and statements are just outright lies or foolishness and stupidity.

>>24473831
>no one should do harm to anyone or infringe on the rights of anyone.
elaborate further please

>>24473839
>muh evidence
liberalism, and by extension atheism, is based on empirici8sm. nobody gives a shit if what you're saying is true or not EXCEPT atheists
>>24473840
nigga read bertrand russell and karl popper

>>24471358
Leftists are anti-Israel because they think Israel is white people. Either way, I really don't give a fuck who hates Israel, the more the better.

>>24473831
Atheists have no set morality. That may be (for now) the marginally dominant school of thought but really your Morality is whatever you want it to be.

>>24472813
The difference is that leftists are against Israel for legitimate reasons, their ethnosupremacist zionism and genocidal settler colonialism. Poltards are against Israel because they are Shitlerites who believe Jews force western politicians to accepts billions of immigrants and that Jews are behind porn or having black/gay people in movies, which is complete fucking nonsense

>>24473871
You atheists literally rape your pets and are all faggots.

The bible puts the death penalty on you FREAKS

Lmao. Do people actually believe that atheism lost the debate? The western world is turning away from religion in unprecedented numbers since antiquity. Just how delusional do you have to be to think that your little attempts to paint atheism as "uncool" (or even worse religion as cool XD) actually worked in the grand scale.

Delusional enough to believe in deities in 2025 I guess

>>24473871
>bertrand russell
>karl popper
Found a webm of you and your friend at an art gallery.

>>24471157 (OP)
"Ruin" is a strong word. They were part of a zeitgeist, but no zeit lasts forever. It isn't lost on me that this supposed "new great awakening" across the manosphere is based less on the philosophical merits or cosmological truths of religion and more as a hysterical reaction to the West's perceived decline. These new concerts are atheists cynically wearing religion like a costume as a coping mechanism.

>>24473886
>Atheists have no set morality.
new atheists are all basically christcucks because analytic philosophy originated at oxbridge where literally everyone was a christcuck. i am not talking about the mere absence of belief in god.
>>24473912
not an atheist you weirdo
>>24473942
not endorsing them, but it's what atheists believe

>>24473372
Yeah, and Muslims and Hindus have more kids than Christians and immigrate to majority Christian countries. If the future is religious, it won't be Christian.

>>24473762
Mother Theresa was a corrupt fraud who massively increased suffering and death to inflate her own sick ego

>>24473828
The mother of all echo chambers is religion

>>24473941
>XD
incredible bait

>>24471358
what is /pol/ if not a hive of third worldist retards and fat, unkempt, disgusting incels?

>>24471294
sam is a cuck bitch

How can you ruin atheism? Other than threads like this I never think about god. There is no active participation. I'm going back to not thinking about god now.

>>24471298
A jew lying on behalf of another jew? No way

>>24474256
No she didn't and you learned that from a TV show hosted by a fedora tipper who now has a trannie for a kid.

>>24473013
creationists will smugly tell you how atheists are ignorant jokers and then vomit this kind of incoherent niggerbabble while genuinely believing themselves to be superior
the flat earthers of religion, no doubt

>>24471157 (OP)
it was doomed from the start

>>24471157 (OP)
When did lit became "christcucks, the board"? This is becoming to be quite tiresome

>>24475326
>Other than threads like this I never think about god. There is no active participation. I'm going back to not thinking about god now.

I was so utterly brainwashed that it took me a lot of time to get here. Flagellation to an imaginary entity had become routine

>>24471157 (OP)
Yes? They held relevance in an era where evangelical Christians in America held cultural and political sway, but outside of science education they were massively ignorant, especially towards history, theology, and rhetoric. They refused to adapt to the times as well, so many of their concerns about religiosity seem irrelevant as religion continues to hemorrhage its influence in the developed world.

>>24476485
A huge amount of literature is influenced by if not directly about christian theology

>>24471157 (OP)
Atheism was, is, and always will be for subhuman retards. The only way they can defend their religion they won't ever admit is a religion because then they'd lose access to indoctrinate kids in schools with their scientifically-impossible creation myths of the dumb big bang theory, life from nonlife, and changes of kinds, is with spam and troll posts and logical fallacies.

Atheists should be exterminated like the subhuman trash dogs they are. They've helped nothing in the progress of mankind. All they promote are lies and porn and faggotry.

>>24476485
Just go back to r/atheism, tranny freak.

>>24475393
Thanks for continuing to prove atheists are LITERALLY INCAPABLE of proving or defending their beliefs at all with logical arguments. All you faggot trolls have is shit posts and spam.

If mods weren't fags, you'd all be banned from /lit/ by now.

>>24476590
Atheism isn't a religion, no matter how much your smooth brain shrieks otherwise. It’s literally just not believing in your imaginary friend in the sky. That’s it. No rituals, no dogma, no fairy tales about talking snakes or virgin births. Sorry if reality offends your fragile worldview, but not everyone needs ancient desert scribbles to function without crying.

>>24473333
Leftists think Israel should be nuked though. They dont have a coherent system of belief.

>>24477255
Which prominent leftists truly believe this? Name them.

>>24477255
I support Iran's right to defend itself.

>>24477589
You think anyone cares?

>>24471157 (OP)
They're not philosophically relevant.
In philosophy, faith has not been of relevance since, most likely, Kant or Husserl. From them onwards, most are philosophical theists (the abstract god of the philosophers), or atheists; faith in the Christian sense is just laughable.
Atheists were made to inquire into truth - philosophy starts with the destruction of dogma.

>>24471157 (OP)
Christopher Hitchens was the only consistent one.

I think what irritates me about atheism the most, as a non-christcuck, is that it's not even honest. Self-described atheists just substitute christianity (because as others said, atheists are less anti-religion, and more specifically anti-christian) for this cancerous, degenerate, bizarro world protestantism that is liberalism in the west. They don't stop believing in god and dogma, they just subsitute the christian god for muslims and negroes.

>>24478390
Hitchens had balls, you'd need to if you were to do the things he did like having yourself waterboarded

>>24478966
>you need balls for a publicity stunt that doesn't even last 10 second
Lol, Hitchens was a fat alcoholic dimwit who retards like you confused as being intelligent because he had an English accent.

>>24471394
What does this actually mean. Because most Christians are just culturally European plus believing in god. Does he believe that europe is culturally superior due to Christianity or due to their IQ. Because there are tons of places that are christian that are absolute shitholes

>>24478712

I'd say they stop believing in God but don't abandon belief itself. Which is frankly too much to ask, even of the most radical skeptic.

>>24479106
Only one dimwit in this post, cretin

Why all these words? I stopped believing in any gods due to a lack of credible evidence. Nothing even remotely supernatural ever occurs, nothing in my life changed after I stopped believing at 14 years of age. I do fervently believe that humans are the goofiest creatures roaming the planet. Plenty of evidence to back that up.

>>24479154

I presume you were never very religious or had a religious environment to begin with. Those of us who do find it way harder to break out of it. And as evidenced by threads like this, some never do break out. It's all about thought patterns you see. I guy like you might face or observe a misfortune and never associate it with any supernatural cause. But I guy like me will immediately involve God into the situation

>>24479161
>*A instead of I

>>24471157 (OP)
People have too grand of an expectation for what Atheism is or should be. Atheists are just people who don't believe in God. The people who think it has a deep social or political dimension are misguided. It's like saying that all bald people should form a single unified political body.

>>24479161
I was raised in the Catholic Church including grade school. I was force fed all these incredible stories for years but I couldn’t help noticing that nothing out of the ordinary ever occurred. Prayers were never answered, things that were supposed to provide empirical evidence like divine healing or other absurd miracles never transpired. As soon as I graduated from Catholic grade school I said fuck this shit and life was no different than it was believing in some nonexistent entity.

>>24479221
> I was force fed all these incredible stories for years but I couldn’t help noticing that nothing out of the ordinary ever occurred

As a child I believed that the past was simply a more magical place. Which kind of fit my religion's theology. But yes, it becomes obvious thay this shit doesn't work and by the end of high school I was semi-out of it.

But you can still insert God in a world without miracles like I did. Something bad happens, God must be angry. Something good happens, God must be pleased. Even though these events had zero causality with the things we actually did. Good people suffered and bad people coasted through life in comfort.

>>24479265
>But you can still insert God in a world without miracles like I did.
Why in fuck would I want to do this? You’re an idiot.

>>24479301
I'm just saying that people do this. And yes it's idiotic. I'm not asking you to be the same

>>24479329
Most people are too afraid to face the truth that man created god. They need to cling to a supposed higher power to protect them even though this never happens. Human stupidity has no boundaries.

>>24471157 (OP)
no. we would need more of them. there is still too much religious nonsense present in politics and society.

>>24479369
You’re beating a dead horse.

>>24478712
Even the most “facts and logic” rational atheist is a human being who is motivated by emotional impulses whether they want to believe it or not. Most people have the ‘spiritual’ impulse towards something higher than themselves or object of worship. You cannot remove this function, save with a lobotomy pick :^).

>>24479421
I would like to know if the isolated tribe on North Sentinel Island has created any god/s. Too bad we'll never know.

>>24479421
I can agree with that, but Christians have to explain to me why their religion is better or more advanced -- not just the historical inertia of it -- than believing in the philosophy of The Matrix movies or getting into some modern fandom as a substitute for traditional religion (which many people treat as fandom now anyways).

>>24479421
Maybe the medical profession gave up lobotomies too quickly.

>>24479631
Well, I agree with you. My problem with Christian apologism is it’s, not necessarily cart before the horse, but the basic foundational theological concepts such as the existence of God or implausibility of a materialist ontology which serve as a mere stepping stones towards justifying the Christian dogma and more technical, specific concepts such as soteriology, theodicy, divinity of Jesus, etc. The primary goal in a rapidly secularizing world should be justifying God’s existence and the validity of a general religious sentiment.

>>24471157 (OP)
I hate Hitchens so much. Used to love him. I despise him. I can't stand to look at his fat fucking smug sweaty face. Fuckin piss drunk sophist who never argued anything, only "owned" everyone. Fuck Christopher Hitchens.

Sam is also annoying but less like this

Dawkins is just an actual idiot. A bad scientist. But not worth taking seriously, anger isn't even worth it. Dawkins is a historical footnote on a long timeline who got fooled by short term popularity into thinking he has any importance or relevance.

>>24479691
Hitchens was based lol

>>24479698
He was such a fuckin loser it's not even funny anymore

>>24472622
The tradcath larping is one of the best examples of how thoroughly secularized our society has become since religion has become nothing more than a farcical means of in-group identification. These people believe in it as a rejection of liberalism, not because they recognize any true value in it. I respect atheists and weird evangelical denominations who authentically own their beliefs more than the average online anime avatar with the Vatican flag next to their name.

>>24479706
Don't underestimate hollow performance. The world runs on it.

>>24479702
Don't be mad, anon, be glad

>>24479702
Classic projection

>>24479779
>classic projection
Classic projection

>>24479783
Chin up, anon