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old: >>24461656

I feel like western Essos (where all the nine major cities are) is too geographically large. Like, Pentos is a sizeable kingdom/republic. What's going on with all that land around it? Rich estates? Townships? You'd think it'd be a bit toned down in scale. George could have made more cities but nine is already quite the number. Idk, just always hit me weird.

The dyed beards shit is dumb too.

George fucked the pooch.

>>24474999
the lands of the Free Cities are dotted with towns that can compete with the smaller cities of Westeros but they don't have the legal privilege or cultural cache to call themselves Cities

Stealing this because it’s funny.

>>24474893
Viserys always spergs out; if Dany was gone he would completely sperg

There is exactly 0 (zero) evidence that Maegor was actually as bad as the stories make him out to be. The Hightowers are the jews of Westeros and Maegor dismissed his barren bitch Hightower wife which made Lord Hightower seethe and cope so hard he got the maesters to smear Maegor, the citadel kikes hated Maegor because he stood up to them, Aenys was their obvious choice to back because he was a beta bitch with a shit constitution (and a bastard) so if anything the biggest mistake Maegor made was not burning Oldtown to the ground.

>>24475187

Maegor was a usurper, kinslayer and all around spaz but he was right to put down the Faith Militant, otherwise Westeros would be ruled by a batshit crazy theocracy.

Walk with me, my sweet summer child, and hear the tale of fat pink masts jutting into sopping wet myrish swamps and black nipples brushing against silk until her cunt became the world while in the privy the princess guzzled arbor gold and shat but the more she drank the more she shat until she was shitting brown water and around her the planks of the ship groaned like a fat man taking a shit while she cursed the gods and nuncle smiled as he broke his fast on black bread, bacon burned black, and mulled wine while capon-grease dribbled down his chin and onto the boiled leather of his jerkin for did she not know words are wind and dark wings bring dark words and a lannister always pays her debts and mayhaps this is nothing but a mummers farce and useless as nipples on a breastplate and the princess has been fucking lancel and moonboy for all nuncle knows and he is the blood of the dragon for the night is dark and full of terrors but where do whores go and jon snow knows nothing and near enough makes no matter so nuncle smiled and dipped the heel of his bread into clam chowder and prayed for half a hundred more heh har HODOR

>>24475133
It would depend on the context then. If he sperged out and tried to hurt Drogo then he'd die, if he just hand a mental breakdown and just yelled like an autist he'd likely be allowed to leave.

westeros ain't ready for the nam-tier warfare that happens when the riverland vietcong start spreading the word of the red god. Fire only makes the faith burn brigther. The seven is a fuck. Burn em all. 184304830843 dead lannisters.

please george at least just finish winds oh my fuck please

>>24474999
>Idk, just always hit me weird.
It's inspired by Mediterranean/Baltic sea merchant powers, like the Hanseatic League, Most Serene Republic of Venice and Republic of Genoa.
>economy based on trade tariffs collected from coastal trade
>ruled by oligarchic associations of richest merchants with figurehead rulers mediating between them
>control very little territory
>influence a shitton of coastal cities though
>minimal regular armies, massive mercenary forces bought with abovementioned tariffs instead
>said mercenaries make said coastal influences extremely fluid and impermanent

>What's going on with all that land around it?
A fuckton of microkingdoms and small towns which are treated as utterly irrelevant as long as they don't sit on Rhoyne or a Dragon road. If they do, the Free Cities clash those mercenary armies for dat tariff cash flow from controlling them.

>>24475415
>Maegor was a usurper, kinslayer
Stopped reading right there. Get the Lietower cock out of your mouth, faggot.

Can George actually finish the series?
Like, forget will, we know he won't. But can he?

>>24475187
>There is exactly 0 (zero) evidence that Maegor was actually as bad as the stories make him out to be
Failed to procreate = a total fucking failure as a ruler. No amount of just judgements or righteous acts hiding under supposed H*ghtower slander can compensate for his deformed gay vasectomized micropenor.

>>24476117
>Failed to procreate
He was literally sabotaged by Oldtown niggers the entirety of his rule, they 100% are behind his failed procreation

>>24476122
"HIGHTOWERS could be here" he thought, "I've never been in this women before. There could be HIGHTOWERS anywhere." The sobbing of his new wife sounded good in the acoustics of the royal bedchamber of the Red Keep. "I HATE HIGHTOWERS" he thought. Bed squeaks "reverberated through the castle, making it pulsate even as the fertility brew circulated through his powerful thick veins and washed away his (merited) fear of disloyal vassals. "When you're a king, you can marry any woman you want" he said to himself, out loud.

>>24476130
Hightowers aren't the only niggers in Oldtown, there's Faith niggers and Maester niggers

>>24475415
>Westeros would be ruled by a batshit crazy theocracy.
And that would be better than targshits.

>>24476164
...as well as Harrowayniggers, Westerlingniggers, Costayneniggers, Baratheonniggers, Arrynniggers, Starkniggers, Lannisterniggers, Pentosniggers, builderniggers and Targniggers (i.e. all the Targs other than himself personally).

>>24475776
Please, please. It rhymes with cheese.

>>24476193
The fact of the matter is that you can play coy all you want but there has yet to be no, zero, nada, squat in terms of evidence that proves Maegor deserved his nickname.
>b-but in the book
Give me 1 unbiased first hand account where even with context it's impossible to deny he was in the wrong.

>>24476188
based and rainbowpilled Shepardmaxxer
lizard people need to get the fuck off my continent

>>24474978 (OP)

When reading AGoT did people actually believe that Tyrion might have tried to murder Bran. In the show when Littlefinger reveals the knife my mind subconsciously never assumed for once that it might be Tyrion. Dinklage is just too charming for that. But the book Tyrion appears sus af and for a first time reader I think there is a mystery element to this arc. Did he actually try to assassinate Bran or did he not?

>>24476246
Tyrion is literally a PoV character, this theory is retarded

>>24476249
I don't think his pov is ever shown to deal with the knife question until Catelyn kidnaps him. At which point , I presume it becomes clear he dindu nuffin. But rn he looks a lil bit sus

>>24476188
>>Westeros would be ruled by a batshit crazy theocracy.
>And that would be better than targshits.

Yes.

>>24476219
"i like my dog"
redditors: "SOURCE? IS THAT PEER-REVIEWED? IS IT UNBIASED??"

>>24476479
>I went onto reddit, said something that people disagreed with and got heavily downdooted, now I seethe about it daily
Get well soon.

>>24476517
sad to hear this happend to you anon. don't go on reddit next time

>>24476049
Only one way to find out: take away all his other projects and lock him in a room with a computer, all his material about ASOIAF and an internet connection that only works for research and email communication exclusively with his editor and Elio Garcia.

what an exhausting way to write

>>24476898
Holy shit that is genuinely terrible.
It's a miracle that he has managed to get this far.

>>24476831
The only thing he would write is a long blogpost about how he was depressed about being locked in a room.

>>24476898
Reminder that he wrote 500 pages of Quentyn arriving a month before Dany's marriage to Hizdahr, as well as 500 pages of Quentyn arriving long after Dany's marriage to Hizdahr and then deleted those pages after changing his mind to put Quentyn arriving the night before Dany's wedding.

>>24475725
I can actually imagine him trying to hurt Drogo for indirectly killing his sister through childbirth but otherwise maybe not.
I guess he would be kidnapped on the way back to Illyrio's though

>>24477032
Now imagine him doing that for knots of plotlines that actually matter.

>>24477094
Winds made the Meereenese Knot look like a fucking joke

>>24475725
>, if he just hand a mental breakdown and just yelled like an autist he'd likely be allowed to leave.
Do they even understand what the little weirdo is saying half the time? Dany was his main translate so he would be helpless to even understand what's happening?

>>24477126
By the time of Vyseris' death Drogo can understand some Valyrian.

>>24477150
Doesn't Viserys insist on Common or something?

>>24477151
I don't remember.

>>24477157
Some people were saying he insists on Common to prove he was not a real prince and a Lysene slave with schizophrenia who escaped or something
I don't remember either. I think that Drogo probably understands a little more than he pretends to because he had to talk to representatives of the free cities who give him tribute.
I myself do not like the idea of Viserys being a phony. Dany being fake might be a plot point but Viserys kind of has to be real to be what he is

>Bookclub asked the question about what would happen to Viserys if Dany dies
>They all say he commits suicide
Wtf. Even you lads think he would probably be allowed to wander away

>>24477204
Those are not mutually contradictory.

>>24477204
what he does depends on when she dies, i do not think he would ever try to kill himself though

>>24477221
I don't get the insistence on Viserys suiciding if Dany dies. Maybe having a mental breakdown and pushing someone else to kill him (he was having one when he died) but not suicide. That attributes too much of Danyfags projecting on him
>>24477223
He was a coward and cowardly people rarely kill themselves, plus he does not seem to love Dany very much

>>24477228
i don't think its the cowardice but rather the narcissism that would keep him from suicide.
he'd be screwed without daenerys but it would never drive him to suicide and the degree of his screwedness would vary depending on when she died
if it was before they left pentos then he'd try to reformulate some other plan. if it was with the dothraki they might just kill him after he inevitably freaks out for the first time, with no daenerys there to act as a deterrent. i doubt he'd try to leave them if they were too far from a free city, he knows he wouldn't survive in the wilderness.

>>24477181
>Some people were saying he insists on Common to prove he was not a real prince and a Lysene slave with schizophrenia who escaped or something
How would that make sense? If he is from Lys then he's more likely to speak Valyrian than Common.

>>24477223
>Orphaned and impoverished, genuinely loved and admired the family he lost
>Remembers time when he was not so poor
>Constantly laughed at
>Implied to have eaten rotten garbage at one point to survive
>Probably got sexually abused considering the setting
>Genetic psychiatric condition or unironic autism that setting has no hope of treating
>Spent adolescent years as a teenage single parent to someone he did not even sleep with someone to create
>Miserable and friendless
Viserys's life was kind of suicide fuel. If he did not consider doing it before he would not do it if Dany died in childbirth. Unless you want to claim he would feel remorse because of what happened to his mom

>>24477236
I think an aspect that would possibly kill him is if someone he respected just cold told him he would never sit on the Iron throne
It's the dream that keeps him alive.
The worst type of screwed is stuck with the Dothraki in the wilderness without Dany though, I agree; then it might get tricky since Jorah also wants to kill him
>>24477239
People just want him to be fake because Dany needs to be fake for some reason

>>24477241
>Abusive and autistic teen single father
>Gross little girl
They are a social worker's nightmar

>The 10 year dormant fanfic about Dany kidnapped and tortured by Joffrey has updated Woah

>>24477340
>Dany kidnapped by Joffrey
????

>>24477347
There was a Russian who wrote a long fanfic about Daenerys being kidnapped by Joffrey (AU obviously) and about a team up of Jorah and Viserys trying to get her back (and it being hilarious failure). I always thought it was abandoned for good

>>24477219
we never got this kino.... i fucking hate gurm

>>24475877
pic related reminds me of those memes of the cop leaning all the way back in the chair during that kids interrogation

Gurm, Gurm. it rhymes with Worm.

>>24475776
I legit only care about Stannis taking the north.
I want to see the him beat the Boltons with the northerners, everything else is less than secondary.

>>24478074

>>24478142
I fully expect this to happen
I just want to see the official version.

I've got a question for you guys. I've heard the real reason that he can't finish the books is because that would require a true blue hero or for everyone to die and suffer, the former which goes against Martin's style of writing where everything is doom and gloom and the latter which would make the fan base violently angy.
Do you think there's any credence to this idea?

>>24478843
no, he just lost interest altogether
he could finish the story with everyone dying and the world being unsaved, but he doesn't do that either. he's just uninterested in the whole story, no matter what type of ending

>>24478843
Make Stannis the true hero, that would be a good ending that subverts expectations.

>>24477771
i want one, just one, good cross-over fanfic where Skitter & co get iskaied into ASOIAF and then start being bad-assess
Or maybe Tattletale and Glory girl...
but there's nothing. absolutely nothing

For all the gardner-style writers out there: let be GRRM be a warning to you all

>>24479400
It’s not actually a bad way to write. He let the weeds grow out of control, like in any unkept garden. But weeds can be pretty.

>“My own heroes are the dreamers, those men and women who tried to make the world a better place than when they found it, whether in small ways or great ones. Some succeeded, some failed, most had mixed results… but it is the effort that’s heroic, as I see it. Win or lose, I admire those who fight the good fight.” - George R.R. Martin

really? a whole continent with no one lending money? just this one bank 1000 miles away, on a literally different continent?
what are small houses, merchants and even smallfolk supposed to do if they need money? ask their liege? surely then we would've seen the consequences of such system

>>24479468
Dany confirmed a hero
i knew crucifying those masters was _a good thing_

another day of no updates...

>>24479562
winds will be announced before thread #100 trvst the plan

>>24479562
you got an ELDER RING update just a couple weeks ago, what more do you want?

>>24479623
George is gonna throw another meltie because he heard us complain about not getting the "right" update...

>if we can take them in the rear while they are beating off what they think is my main thrust
Robb chill out

Quentynbros...

>>24479686
>tfw you're the chubby younger brother just like Quentyn
He's a little too "literally me" for my tastes.

George just had to fill 14-year-old Dany's life with so many gigachads to fuck her and then give her some average dude to reject. Poor Quentyn.

>>24479715
What changes if his sister goes instead?

>>24479804
>tumblr nose coloring

>>24479804
>Arianne realizes Daario is trouble for Daenerys
>seduces him and rides him until his balls are empty

>The gooey warm sensation inside her and the sordid knowledge that it was her own beloved son who was emptying his baby-making batter inside her brought Rhaenyra to her own orgasm a moment later, as she shivered and gasped against him, grinding her pelvis against his as he continued filling her.

>When their mutual orgasm died down, she collapsed atop him with a long sigh, planting kisses on his shoulder. They said nothing for several moments before she ran her fingers through his brown hair. “Luke…are you alright?”

>She was worried for the briefest of moments when he didn’t say anything, but then her fears were assuaged when she felt him gently caress her hip. “Like I told you once. Perfect.”

>>24476625
What an absolute insufferable faggot you are

>>24479418
The warning is that you should finish your book before the weeds start eating people.

>>24479518
oldtown, lannisport and gulltown all have banks with oldtown's being the largest, smallfolk would get monies from small time moneylenders or from their fief

>>24480513
in other cases, there are guilds

>>24480513
if only that was shown in books, somehow
and had impact on the plot
or the worldbuilding
read 'the accursed kings' to understand how important money-lenders were in dark ages

>>24480363
you sound upset. you should calm down

>>24479715
>After Ynys had come the Drinkwater twins, a pair of tawny young maidens who loved hawking, hunting, climbing rocks, and making Quentyn blush. One of them had given him his first kiss, though he never knew which one. As daughters of a landed knight, the twins were too lowborn to marry, but Cletus did not think that was any reason to stop kissing them. "After you're wed you can take one of them for a paramour. Or both, why not?" But Quentyn thought of several reasons why not, so he had done his best to avoid the twins thereafter, and there had been no second kiss.

>More recently, the youngest of Lord Yronwood's daughters had taken to following him about the castle. Gwyneth was but twelve, a small, scrawny girl whose dark eyes and brown hair set her apart in that house of blue-eyed blondes. She was clever, though, as quick with words as with her hands, and fond of telling Quentyn that he had to wait for her to flower, so she could marry him. - A Dance with Dragons - The Merchant's Man

>"Daenerys Targaryen is not the only woman in the world. Do you want to die a man-maid?"

>Quentyn did not want to die at all. I want to go back to Yronwood and kiss both of your sisters, marry Gwyneth Yronwood, watch her flower into beauty, have a child by her. - A Dance with Dragons - The Dragontamer

He could have had a wife and two tomboy side bitches and he abandoned it all for some used up dothraki whore.

>>24480863
>he's even more literally you- look at all these other women he fumbled
STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP

Ynys has gotta be the worst name George has ever come up with.

>>24479804
Arianne would eat her pussy so good that she'd call off the wedding the night before, say her brother could put a baby in her (mistakenly assuming he's as good and hot as her), and drop everything to head for Westeros. Quentyn gets cucked by Trystane.

>>24480892

>>24481094
too ugly to be Arianne

I wonder how much George is seething from these retarded, clickbaiting journalists that are all posting headlines like this.

He did it to himself though.
Reputation fully down the drain.

>>24481530
I think Westeros SUCKS

what's the point of the Quentyn Martell side-story/plot?

>>24474978 (OP)
The dude is 76 years old. he's never going to finish the series, let it go!

>>24481614
it shows Doran doesn't put his eggs into one basket, gives his character more agency
it gives insight into more dornish houses and some facets of their culture
it creates a conflict for Daenerys and a reminder that she should be going west and that she DOES actually have potential allies there, IF she doesn't fuck it up (which she did)

none of these are very important mind you and could have been left out completely, but they are points nontheless

>>24481665
we already have, retard. we can talk about what we do have though. no ending doesn't diminish what already exists

>>24481667
fair enough, they are indeed points
i like the third one, which might've been used for drawing dany to westeros

>>24481614
He's going to bring a dragon to Young Griff.

>>24481676
yeah. I imagine it to be a slap in the face. She wasted so much time not going to Westeros, that Westeros has come for her. It's a reminder of her incompetence and could have served as the catalyst to finally have her abandon Essos and start sailing

That's what I was thinking to will happen when I first started reading the Quentyn chapters. I thought that was Gurm's intention too and it may have been at the start, but muh gardening ended it with Dany flying away back to the Dothraki and now we will never know what happens next

looking very rough

>>24481614
I legitimately forgot he was a POV character until these threads. Just another pointless thread in a story overflowing with them

Why couldn't you guys just be nicer to George? If you guys weren't evil bigots and voted according to his politics while silently waiting for Winds we would have it by now. It's literally your fault. You sicken me.

>>24483037
VALAR MORGHULIS

>>24483096
thoughts on Brienne and Tyrion travelogues?

>>24483130
Brienne is my favorite character in my favorite book. Her story is good and filters people with shit taste. She does have an arc and the story progresses. To bad it'll never be concluded because I have no idea what he was going to do with Brienne/Jaime/Stoneheart.

>>24478843
No I think you're a fucking retard who hasn't understood the themes of the books at all and has just been imbibing shitposts from /tv/

>>24479686
>be a dull stick in the mud
>somehow it's the woman's fault for rejecting an obvious genetic dead end

>>24481530
Unironically journalists should be thrown in prison and given daily floggings for writing misleading and false information.

The series not being finished is a good thing. It fits the themes and style of GRRM. It should either remain unfinished or have a horrible downer ending desu.

>>24483601
Mega cope

>>24483601
5th stage of grief

>>24483601
The publishers will force a posthumous release. Elio and Linda have all but confirmed it. Whether or not it is actually good is a different question entirely.

>>24475776
Every time a fan begs George is filled with white hot rage but also an erection.

>>24483560
hope she sees this bro

>>24483037
I hope he dies on the toilet with his pants around his ankles and his cock in his hand. I want that to be the image of him stuck in the minds of the people who find him, forever.

>>24483819
I'm already married. I just want anons to stop falling for mopey horseshit and start improving their lives. Dudes around here will post textbooks worth of cope instead of seeing the obvious fact that if you want to seem like a good match you should actually be a good match.

Esos>westeros

Prove me wrong

Jonsa status?

>>24484089
Never even bugun. Although a stark-targaryan cadet branch would probably yield very magically powerful humans. A powerful match would of course be the jon-dany pairing but dany is an infertile schizo so that line is probably no good.

>>24484089
still winning and canon, of course

>>24484089
Wrong sister.

>According to a new study, 64% of men are in a relationship with someone who shares significant personality traits with their mother.

>>24484089
we are so freakin up

>>24484159
The best possible pairing for that would unironically be jon and arya, maybe that's why george had them become lovers originally

>>24484330
why wouldn't a jon and sansa pairing accomplish the same thing, tho?

I had a dream that George released new ASOIAF content. It wasn't TWOW, it was a few Arya and Catelyn scenes that kind of bridged the gap to TWOW. Catelyn was getting involved in a plot to infiltrate the Twins by posing as a whore, I don't know how that would work with how she looks now.
He also said that TWOW was "89.99% done" and came to my house and befriended my dog (I don't have a dog).

>>24484380
Based. This means we're close

>>24484380
We're so back twow in 2 weeks believe it

>>24483186
isn't that just pinoy language

>>24484343
Sansa probably has some kind of potential due to her heritage but she can't use magic and can't warg as far as we know

>>24484380
>Catelyn was getting involved in a plot to infiltrate the Twins by posing as a whore
She's a walking corpse

>>24484723
i've seen some whores who looked worse than a walking corpse would
and i've met some men who would..

>>24485007
>>>/tv/

We did it reddit!

Goddamn he looks terrible

>>24485229
For context, the PureASOIAF subreddit noticed that George was feeling down so they decided to call on their users to send in heartfelt messages for George (what ASOIAF means to them, how much they appreciate his writing, etc. but mostly sucking up to him).
The mods then compiled those messages, bound it into a book and now George has received it.

>>24485229
>>24485249
don't care
still not writing Winds

>>24485249
The funniest part is that this project started early last year. I wonder how many of the people that contributed to this would now renounce their message after George went apeshit and lashed out his supporters.

>>24485229
he looks the same as ever

>>24485229
i loathe him. if millions of people actually care about your soul and health,you shall have a decency to either finish your book or admit you can't do it.

>>24485427
>jew
>decency
pick one

>>24485229
I hate him so fucking much

>>24485270
Zero. The kind of people who signed that book dislike the kind of people that post was attacking.

Attacking, attacking. It rhymes with snacking.

>>24485666
Claim him, Satan.

>>24474999
>The dyed beards shit is dumb too
Arabs used to dye their beards red.

>>24475187
this is why he was named Maegor the Cool but (((maesters))) changed it.

>>24486153
This is an accurate statement, shame redditanon cannot see this. He was a man who above all else loved his family, he even loved his brother (a weakling bastard born to a whore mother) and allowed him to sit the throne. He drew the line at the prospect of letting a Velaryon (Oldtown plant) sully the throne.
Let us look at the Hands of Maegor's usurper Jaehaerys "Cunt Retard" I Targaryen
Rogar Baratheon
>Pussywhipped by a Velaryon hag
Daemon Velaryon
>Traitorous turncoat, possibly an oldtown asset
Myles Smallwood
>Loser lickspittle, literal who put in place to make his successor look better
Septon Barth
>Literal oldtown plant and sucked shit as hand
Ryam Redwyne
>Won tournament for Jaehaerys in OLDTOWN. How convenient.
Baelon Targaryen
>Nepobaby and possible incestuous faggot
Otto Hightower
>Jew

>>24475187
He was a Targaryen, he’s automatically bad
(Targs are canon extinct by the end of the series and that’s a good thing)

>>24479521
Those niggers only understood force.
>B-but there were some masters that opposed the crucifixion of childr-ACK!
They're all complicit.

>>24481173
Nigga what?

>>24486427
Yes he was bad, they are all bad, George does not write good characters. Alas it could be worse, he could be an Oldtown nigger.
>(Targs are canon extinct by the end of the series and that’s a good thing)
And it all starts with usurping Maegor. You literally can't prove Aenys did not want Maegor to succeed him, he knew that Velaryussy had crippled the blood of the dragon beyond repair.
>Maegors wives all had miscarriages
Yes, they were all tended to by citadel niggers, curious.

>>24481614
Continued Dornish humiliation.

>>24475187
oy vey

>>24482259
>her incompetence
Kek, she's extremely competent for a teen. She's also a huge bleeding heart who couldn't just leave the freedmen to their own devices.

>>24483130
Incomplete without Brienne riding Podrick's face/Tyrion sucking on Lemora's titties.

>>24484380
I always thought it was contrived that Catelyn got killed at the Red Wedding. Should've left her as a hostage and/or sex slave, it doesn't seem very in-character for Walder to pass on the opportunity to screw the daughter of his Lord-Paramount who always looked down on him.

>>24486507
What do you think they were doing after stripping her and before throwing her in the river?

>>24486483
You are correct. What I meant was her incompetence in going west, which is supposed to be her actual goal. She's been doing side-quests all this time and the main quest is catching up on her in the form of Quentyn. It's a reminder that her actual goal is west and she is just wasting time, hence the incompetence. But maybe I should have used a different word, I'm ESL thoughbeit

>>24485249
We should make one for /grrm/ but it's just a compilation of messages calling him a fat cunt and telling him to hurry up and finish the books.

We'll call it 'Dear Gurm,'

>>24485791
>The kind of people who signed that book
Aren't people

>>24486868
Good idea, I'll start.
Finish your book fat.

> “I will never finish WINDS, If I do, I will never finish A DREAM OF SPRING. If I do, it won’t be any good. I ought to get some other writer to pinch hit for me… I am going to die soon anyway, because I am so old. I lost all interest in A Song of Ice and Fire decades ago. I don’t give a shit about writing any longer, I just sit around and spend my money.”

the first occasion of him being truthful in literal decades

He looks terrible because of the Ozempic you dumb fucks

Who the FUCK takes Ozempic when you can just go to the gym

I see old men with their walkers in their 90s going to the gym.

>I will NEVER let another writer finish my story, help me pad out the chapters and editing to release things on time, or use AI EVER!
>I will however TAKE A FUCK TON of Ozempic to lose weight a decade before I die of natural causes anyway potentially causing death even faster than if I stayed fat
Amazing.
Gurm you fat bitch you will never EVER not be spiritually fat no matter how skinny you are.

>>24487877
>go to the gym

Gurn probably doesn't even walk to the fridge anymore, he probably has Shae fetch his chicken tendies.

>>24478843
Mate go read Dunk and Egg
Yes we know how it will end, but the entire theme of it is brimming with positivity
It shits on ASOIAF desu, fuck winds give me she wolves of winterfell

>>24487920

>>24488002

"Haha, look at them seething!"
"Is funny, meester Gurm."

>>24487981
I feel bad for Dunk and Egg fans.
Even if the main series is finished George is NOT writing 12 novellas before he dies.

>>24488013
You just know that he's jerked off to her porn videos

>>24488058
He left us the titles. One day there will be a COOL ASS video game about Dunk and those will be guidelines. Really, I hope we get at least one more story.

How are translations of ASOIAF? Are there any in particular that work well with the theme? How are the translations of names and placenames?

>>24488058
9 more straightforward, small-scale, single-POV novellas would be much easier to write than 2 massive, hugely complicated, world-spanning novels with a dozen major POVs and almost as many secondary ones.
I still think that if he managed to finish ASOIAF it'd be very easy to finish D&E. Of course he isn't finishing ASOIAF, but if TWOW ever gets done we might get a couple more D&E stories plus Fire & Blood 2 which is apparently already half written.

George will die soon
George will die soon
George will die soon
George will die soon

>>24488161
George will die on the toilet of a blood clot while straining to take a massive shit

>>24488165
he gonna die like elvis

>>24488084
Polish translation leaves names and surnames and translates place names if they came up with a good name
>Winterfell, Riverrun and Casterly Rock
>Eyrie (Orle Gniazdo), Highgarden (Wysogród) and King's Landing (Królewska Przystań)
Also in CoK ironborn's thralls are translated as slaves since the distinction is stressed in FfC.

>>24488065

He did more than that.

>>24488058
Dunk and Egg is episodic and we know how they end up so it doesn't matter as much tbqh
God I'd like more though, but he won't write them because he's too tied up not writing winds

>>24488084
I read a couple pages in a bookstore, it was painful. Unnecessary direct translations of names, terms and titles.

>>24488260
The expressions on their faces make this less sleazy somehow

>>24488165
That’s too good for the fat fuck. I hope he gets tortured and killed by an unhinged fan

>>24475094
>This is pure dragonglass!
>Thank you, Aegon. I’m glad it’s acceptable.

Why is Jon snow such a bitch in the show. In the book he appears to be a sly and sharp character

>>24488481
>Le secret Prince
Jon snow sucks in both mediums

>Aerea had become a terror, a willful wild child who defied her septa, her mother, and her maesters alike, abused her servants, absented herself from prayers, lessons, and meals without leave, and addressed the men and women of Rhaena’s court with such charming names as “Ser Stupid,” “Lord Pigface,” and “Lady Farts-a-Lot.”

Is house "Farts-a-lot" a major or minor house? What's their sigil and house words, does anyone know?

What would you do if you were Dunc?

>>24488830
Kill all Oldtown niggers

>>24488892
Even Maester Aemon?

>>24488830
Kill egg, his sisters, his brothers, fathers, his uncles and aunts

>>24488892
House Targaryen is extinct
Based maesters and Hightowers killed their dragons

>>24488957
what about his nieces and nephews

>>24488830
Do what Aerion proposed and castrate Egg to make him into my boywife.

>>24487877
You underestimate how set in their ways boomers are. All they know is consume goyslop, consume news cycle, repeat news cycle as if it were their own opinions, and sell out future generations.

>>24488084
In Italian they couldn't even translate the titles right.

>>24479468
This is driven home memorably in Dying of the Light. The dude comes from a fucked up culture and admired the people who fought to make it less fucked up, but others from his world can't understand why he'd consider losers heroes.

i hope george leaves enough notes or whatever so that the publishers can pay somone to actually finish this series.
Whats your guys's ideal ending btw?

>>24478843

Nah, it's the same thing that happened to every single story cycle he has ever started. He simply lost interest.

>>24489591
i guess i can understand how one would lose interest if your writing process is like what >>24477032 was describing
George you fat fuck PLEASE JUST HIRE A COUPLE DUDES WHY DONT YO UJUST HIREE SOME HEELPPP

>>24486467
>Yes, they were all tended to by citadel niggers, curious.
Tyanna of the Tower wasn't.

>>24489588
I don't really care as long as Jaime has a satisfying conclusion to his journey. A few more clues and insight in to the mysteries of the world, the wall, the others etc. would be nice.

>>24489588
A return to independent kingdoms and total targ death

>>24489606
>Tyanna of the Tower wasn't.
They used cloak & dagger tactics to get to her.

>>24488921
>Even Maester Aemon?
Maester Aemon was spawned from the line of the usurper Jaehaerys, he is as guilty as the Lietowers.
>>24488964
Yes it is true however you think it was extinguished far later than it actually was. House Targaryen died in 48 A.C.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dz4zA0LCTA

you guys didn't mention that a new Michael just dropped

>>24474978 (OP)
It's kinda weird how seemingly nothing happened between Grey Rebellion and the death of Jon Arryn.
No, incidents.

>>24490009
>kinda weird

Why? Westeros had just gone thru Robert's Rebellion and then Balon and the Ironborn flipped out (once again) and were put down, the kingdom was pretty stable at that point.

>>24488830
>What would you do if you were Dunc?

Request a better artist.

>>24490047
rude

>>24474999
Martin is terrible with geographical scale, specially when combined to chronological scale (something he doesn't fully grasp either).

Valyria is the worst offender: existed for thousands of years, with hundreds of dragons, yet they never went further than West Essos, despite Aegon conquering the entire Westeros with 3 dragons in a couple of years.
They live a few hours flight from Sothoryos, but only one dragonrider in millenia of history tried to travel there.
In a single cataclysm they literally all died and the other city states, who somehow barely inherited Valyrian culture despite being neighbors, were completely fine.

It's perhaps the most underachiever empire in all fiction, all of that because George can't into geography. It could be plausible if it was a region very very far away from Westeros, but it's not. Now we just wonder how a such a powerful empire managed to influence very little all the places where the action takes place

>>24488260
Gurm, Gurm, it rhymes with sperm.

>>24490046
>300 years of Targ rule overthrow doesn't cause more revolts

>>24490114
Who would revolt?

>>24490148
Dorne?

Dorne, Dorne. It rhymes with Porn.

>>24490160
that it does

>>24490155
Anybody who can?

>>24490148
fans should revolt against gurm

>>24481667
It shows that Doran is a fucking retard who is getting his family members killed pointlessly in convoluted schemes to hopefully get revenge later for his dead sister. Doran had a dead sister, now a dead brother and a dead son. Soon Doran will have a handful of dead nieces and a dead daughter to go with them.

Ellaria says the theme of the whole Dorne plot out loud in her speech when they're feasting upon receiving the Mountain's skull. The older Sand Snakes sneer at her and Doran says she's right but chooses to keep engaging with his retarded plots because of sunk cost. I would not be surprised at all if Ellaria kills Doran like she did in the show, but for completely different reasons, namely that his plotting is killing more Martells than the Lannisters ever could.

>>24490236
The sack of santa fae

>>24490239
the whole Dornish plot is spoiled by none other than Doran himself in the first line in the first Dornish chapter.

>The blood oranges are well past ripe,” the prince observed in a weary voice, when the captain rolled him onto the terrace. - The Captain of the Guards, A Feast For Crows

>>24490239
I do think Ellaria has the best "speech" given to a minor character, this one, Septon Maribold, and Wylla Manderly have the best.
>"Sisters, truly, I know the poison Father used. If his spear so much as broke the Mountain's skin, Clegane is dead, I do not care how big he was. Doubt your little sister if you like, but never doubt our sire."
>Obara bristled. "I never did and never shall." She gave the skull a mocking kiss. "This is a start, I'll grant."
>"A start?" said Ellaria Sand, incredulous. "Gods forbid. I would it were a finish. Tywin Lannister is dead. So are Robert Baratheon, Amory Lorch, and now Gregor Clegane, all those who had a hand in murdering Elia and her children. Even Joffrey, who was not yet born when Elia died. I saw the boy perish with mine own eyes, clawing at his throat as he tried to draw a breath. Who else is there to kill? Do Myrcella and Tommen need to die so the shades of Rhaenys and Aegon can be at rest? Where does it end?"
>"It ends in blood, as it began," said Lady Nym. "It ends when Casterly Rock is cracked open, so the sun can shine on the maggots and the worms within. It ends with the utter ruin of Tywin Lannister and all his works."
>"The man died at the hand of his own son," Ellaria snapped back. "What more could you wish?"
>"I could wish that he died at my hand." Lady Nym settled in a chair, her long black braid falling across one shoulder to her lap. She had her father's widow's peak. Beneath it her eyes were large and lustrous. Her wine-red lips curled in a silken smile. "If he had, his dying would not have been so easy."
>"Ser Gregor does look lonely," said Tyene, in her sweet septa's voice. "He would like some company, I'm certain."
>Ellaria's cheeks were wet with tears, her dark eyes shining. Even weeping, she has a strength in her, the captain thought.
>"Oberyn wanted vengeance for Elia. Now the three of you want vengeance for him. I have four daughters, I remind you. Your sisters. My Elia is fourteen, almost a woman. Obella is twelve, on the brink of maidenhood. They worship you, as Dorea and Loreza worship them. If you should die, must El and Obella seek vengeance for you, then Dorea and Loree for them? Is that how it goes, round and round forever? I ask again, where does it end?" Ellaria Sand laid her hand on the Mountain's head. "I saw your father die. Here is his killer. Can I take a skull to bed with me, to give me comfort in the night? Will it make me laugh, write me songs, care for me when I am old and sick?"

>>24490069
Could they have just been hedonistic do-nothings who only ride their dragons around the cities to go to giga-brothels and magic shade of the evening orgies? Occasionally they engage in Dragon Blood sport because they're so bored and apathetic?

>>24488830
I'd try to not change a single thing because the man is my hero

>>24488830
Kill Cuckraven.

>>24490114
300 years of rule is insignificant tbqh
GRRM is shit with dates and timing

>>24490114

The overthrow already had almost more than half the kingdom on board. The other half simply complied and Robert allowed them to do whatever they want as long as they acknowledged him. He was still a far superior option to what came before

>>24490606
Merovingians ruled from 511 to 751, they lost power in 639 and became puppets.
But they were still kept around for almost a century because they were considered legitimate.

>>24490603
he almost did

>>24490631
Being as though Martin loved aping WotR then Plantagenet were around for 300 years, had a fairly comprehensive civil war at the end and then died put as Tudor, who also promptly then died out
But many families of Europe ruled for as long or longer, and died with a whimper, or a single civil war, maybe an international sucession crisis, but still only the singular one
It's not unbelievable to me that after 300 years a family who nearly no one liked is ousted and there is only a single rebellion that's only somewhat related afterwards tbqh

>>24490606
300 years is longer than the Carolingians, Romanovs, Bourbons in France, Julio-Claudians, Safavids, Ming, Qing, or any dynasty that ruled England. The only dynasties I can think of that have lasted longer than 300 years are the Rurikids, Habsburgs, Ottomans, Medici and the Japanese imperial family. It is incredibly rare for ruling dynasties for last that long.

>>24490503
It takes too much suspension of disbelief to imagine an empire that lasted for almost 5000 years doing nothing. Cultural zeitgeists change over time. The Roman Empire lasted just 500 years yet they changed their approach to politics and culture many times. Dynastic China exists for more 3000 years and look how much it conquered and changed.
It is hard to believe that Valyrians just spent 5000 years being hedonistic lazy retards with zero social and cultural evolution or even population growth (given that they barely settled outside their small peninsula)

And this without mentioning that Valyrians had an army of flying weapons of mass destruction. They just defeated Old Ghis millenia ago, bullied a couple of neighboring Rhoynar cities... and that's all?

I know it's fantasy and all, but for such a tight worldbuilding for Westeros, it's pretty disappointing handwaved the lore for Essos and Valyria is.

>>24490707
History is exaggerated. The Wall was built 2,500 years ago. Valyria bragging about its age is like Yi-Ti (the Yi-Tish are actually worse / more pathetic).

But George made it clear in a recent blog that the Valyrians were suspiciously held up in their golden peninsula. It was truly a paradisical land—‘the lands of the long summer’ and all.

He even said dragons don’t travel much. They stay in areas. But like, what was so damn great about the Valyrian peninsula?

>>24490703
>I can think of that have lasted longer than 300 years are the Rurikids, Habsburgs, Ottomans, Medici and the Japanese imperial family
The Han dynasty in China (despite a minor intermission) lasted for around 400 years and the Adaside dynasty in Assyria lasted for a whopping 1000 years.

>>24490707
>>24490717
If you lived in a nation that could erect literal skyscrapers and had dominance in matters of magic… and you were among the nobility… why would you ever want to leave?

>>24490717
>He even said dragons don’t travel much. They stay in areas.
Makes sense. Dragons roost. They love caves. They sleep. NEET creatures.

>>24489588
In Essos:
>Victarion puts down the revolt in Meereen and sacrifices all of Hizdahr's and the besieger's leaders (including Hizdahr himself) as a blood sacrifice to make the dragonhorn his own.
>Barristan tries to stop him, but he is defeated and forced to blow the horn for Victarion
>Barristan dies and Viserion becomes enthralled, but not to Victarion, to Euron. The sacrifice did not work and the horn had not changed masters after all.
>Viserion flies away to Westeros, the first dragon to be seen atop it for centuries, named after Viserys the Exiled Prince.
>Dany returns to Meereen with a bunch of Dothraki, atop Drogon, like a Khal coming to conquer
>She battles Victarion and kills him.
>She burns Ben Plumm and intimidates the Second Sons to serve her
>Meereen is left as nothing but rubble and unburied dead, from the pale mare, the revolts, the sacrifice and lastly Dany and Vick's battle.
>She has had enough and starts westbound with Missandei, Tyrion, Penny, Jorah (in secret), Moqorro, the Unsullied, two dragons, the Dothraki, the rest of the remaining mercenary groups, including the Second Sons
>She is already half-mad (she already was in her last chapter, talking to rocks and grasses and laughing at pain.)
>She hears of fAegon's invasion and it pisses her off more
>As she appears near Volantis, the slaves there revolt and ask for her help overthrowing the masters
>She burns the city, killing masters alongside their slaves. Simultaneously punishing the slavers and freeing the slaves, by way of death. Then continues West as if nothing had happened, cutting the Essosi knot
>She becomes increasingly unhinged, so Daario nopes out and leaves, making her even more crazy
>The mercenary groups she has essentially enslaved with fear slowly slip away whenever they are able, which pisses her off even more and she brutally murders any she catches

In Westeros:
>fAegon's invasion is making great progress with all of the Stormlands coming under his control
>He marries Arianne, and thus Dorne becomes an active participant in the new war for the throne.
>Cersei is increasingly unstable, thinking Tyrion is inside the walls and had just killed Kevan the same way he killed Tywin
>She plots as the Tyrells rule through Tommen
>fAegon naively reaches out to Euron for an alliance against the crown. Joncon is livid.
>Euron agrees to it (he's bluffing)
>Joncon wants to move on King's Landing quickly in order to take the city and install fAegon as king before he is consumed by grayscale, but fAegon and others see it more strategic to take control of the Reach and cut off the Tyrell grain to the city first. Joncon reluctantly agrees to it.
>Joncon accidentally starts spreading grayscale amongst his men. With his body becoming more and more consumed, it becomes hard to avoid all contact
>Greyscale devastates the Golden Company, a twisted mockery of the skull hardened in molten gold that is their symbol, instead being petrified in stone.
(to be continued)

would you

>>24490707
>It takes too much suspension of disbelief to imagine an empire that lasted for almost 5000 years doing nothing.
The timeline is most likely fake or just wrong though. It's brought up more than once in AFFC/ADWD.

>"They are mentioned in the annals, though not as often as I would have thought. The annals I've found and looked at, that is. There's more I haven't found, I know. Some of the older books are falling to pieces. The pages crumble when I try and turn them. And the really old books . . . either they have crumbled all away or they are buried somewhere that I haven't looked yet or . . . well, it could be that there are no such books, and never were. The oldest histories we have were written after the Andals came to Westeros. The First Men only left us runes on rocks, so everything we think we know about the Age of Heroes and the Dawn Age and the Long Night comes from accounts set down by septons thousands of years later. There are archmaesters at the Citadel who question all of it. Those old histories are full of kings who reigned for hundreds of years, and knights riding around a thousand years before there were knights. You know the tales, Brandon the Builder, Symeon Star-Eyes, Night's King . . . we say that you're the nine hundred and ninety-eighth Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, but the oldest list I've found shows six hundred seventy-four commanders, which suggests that it was written during . . ."

>"And miss the first kingsmoot called in . . . how long has it been, Nuncle?"
>"Four thousand years, if Haereg can be believed. Half that, if you accept Maester Denestan's arguments in Questions.

>"Five hundred years before the Andals. A thousand, if the True History is to be believed. Only no one knows when the Andals crossed the narrow sea. The True History says four thousand years have passed since then, but some maesters claim that it was only two. Past a certain point, all the dates grow hazy and confused, and the clarity of history becomes the fog of legend."

>>24490069
The way you fix this is by making Valyrians an exaggerated myth by the Targ propaganda.
Instead of thousands of years, only existed few generations.
Instead of hundreds of dragons, they only have a handful.

>>24490725
See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_policy_in_the_Middle_East

>>24490760
Yeah, I agree, but the fact that we need to resort to headcanon/fanfic in order to make sense of the worldbuilding is a sign of bad writing.

>>24490756

>>24490813
5000 years is the difference between bronze age steppe pastoralists and the fat pink masts of today

>>24490807
Worldbuilding is bad, but there is a lot of it.
Ultimately, we like this series because characters and the story Martin has created and not the world.

>>24489588
>>24490741
Continued:
>Euron prepares a grand sacrifice at Oldtown when Viserion appears in the sky
>Instead of using him to lay waste to the city, he adds him into the sacrifice alongside the Redwyne fleet that rolls up behind his
>The waters around his ships start boiling and turn red as they all become consumed
>Red waves of blood and oil cover the whole city, with only the Citadel remaining tall
>whomever the this oily bloodsea touches melts into a pile of unrecogniseable meat mush
>Euron surfaces from the sea, in the form of a tentacled monster the size of the citadel
>The deaths inside the city fuel his power, but it is becoming increasingly harder to control. As a result the bloodwaves subside.
>Sam sends Gilly and Mance's son out of the citadel to flee
>Sensing the King's blood in Mance's son, Euron moves towards them to consume him in an effort to regain his power
>Sam blows the horn of Joramun from the top of the tower to gain the his attention instead
>Euron destroys the citadel, killing everyone inside, before himself dissolving into a pile of oil and bile, covering the ruins of the citadel, turning its remains into oily black stone. The very same type that served as the foundation of the tower, creating a new layer.

>fAegon and co make steady progress in the conquest of the Reach despite their setback with the Grayscale
>He decides to follow Jon's plan and attack KL as Jon is now extremely adamant about it (He knows he doesn't have much left with the greyscale and wants to crown him asap. Losing troops to greyscale also urges him to be even more hasty)
>Once they set themselves up around the city, Cersei sees that defense is futile, so while everyone's preparing for the siege, she has wildfyre laid out all under the city which she plans to ignite as she leaves with Tommen to burn all her enemies (the people who have seen her walk of shame, the Tyrells, the Faith Militant, the High Sparrow and now fAegon also) on one huge pyre
>Loras has returned to the city some time prior, woundless. It was one of his underlings that wore his armour during the siege of Dragonstone, receiving the reported injuries, not him
>Margery is still imprisoned by the High Sparrow and Loras wants to go and free her, but he hears Cersei give out the order to ignite the wildfyre under the city to burn them all
>Knowing that his sister is still out there, he kills the alchemist running to fulfill the order and then moves towards Cersei sitting atop the iron throne with Tommen
>He wraps his hands around her neck and chokes the life from her. The little brother of the Tyrell family, the youngest brother of the King's guard, the knight who was likened to Jamie, killing the queen who wished to burn the city down. The valonquar prophecy said "THE little brother will", not "YOUR little brother will")
(to be continued)

>all this mostly speaks one language

>>24490878
>THE little brother will", not "YOUR little brother will")
I swear people don't point this out enough

>>24489999
Didn't know Michael was a JonsaCHAD

>>24490920
Cersei will be killed by Garlan Tyrell after she's too open about taking a victory lap over Loras getting fried

>>24489588
>>24490741
>>24490878
>The siege continues and is eventually won. Cersei has made no effort to protect her people, locking herself up in the keep while they had to defend their homes themselves
>However, fAegon and co were gentle with the city and are hailed as liberators by the people, fulfilling Dany's vision of the cloth dragon held up by the people
>The remaining Tyrells become prisoners and made to swear fealty to King Aegon VI
>News of the takeover are sent out across the realm, asking for fealty
>Joncon is made Lord Paramount of the Stormlands
>Joncon doesn't care, he just hastens fAegon's coronation
>That day the bells ring in joy like they have never run before. The city is safe, the king is good pious, the queen is beautiful, the old regime is gone and the people are loved
>During the coronation, hearing the bells Joncon's ptsd is triggered and he collapses into a writhing mess
>He wishes for his prince, Rhaegar to come and save him, when suddenly the dragon Rhaegal flies above King's Landing
>Soon after, Daenerys arrives on Drogon as the Iron fleet sails into the ports
>The wedding party flees into the keep for safety, but the dragons's flames melt the stone around them, as it once happened to Harrenhall.
>The city fights back using scorpions and Rhaegal gets shot down, the dragon prince's namesake, dying in the city he could never rule
>Dany goes fully mad and has Drogon burn everything in sight
>His flames melt through the streets of KL and ignite the underground wildfyre caches, exploding the city in green flames
>Joncon, fAegon, Arianne, the remaining Tyrells, Varys; they all perish in the flames
>The Mad Queen sits atop her crown of ashes as around her the city is in total ruin.

In the North:
>Theon is offered up in sacrifice for victory
>Stannis and the Boltons set up for battle on the ice, unbeknownst to the Bolton side.
>Stannis's army lures them further onto the lake and has the ice broken
>Much of the Bolton army submerges in the lake, but so does Stannis' army.
>The Bolton forces fall back, making Stannis wins the battle, but it was a Pyrrhic victory at best
>Ramsey, unsure of the outcome, thinks that Stannis suffered bigger losses and he himself drowned too, so he writes the pink letter to Jon
>Stannis starts marching back to the wall to regroup and rethink his new strategy, as he doesn't believe he can siege Winterfell with his reduced numbers

>>24489588
>>24490741
>>24490878
>>24490976
sits atop her throne of ashes*

At the wall:
>Jon has been killed by the conspirators
>Melisandre tries to resurrect him, but it has no effect.
>The conspirators from among the NW with Selyse's entourage and the Wildlings with Jon's loyalists are at each others' throats
>They are overwhelmed and become confined into a small part of Castle Black where they make their last stand
>Stannis arrives, seeing that he has no hope of making a new army
>Melisandre offers him to wake dragons from stone in exchange for burning Shireen
>Seeing no other option, Stannis reluctantly agrees and burns her
>Shireen dies, and her soul is split from her body.
>Her soul breathes new life into Jon, who resurrects as a result
>Her body, ridden with greyscale starts transforming into a enormous stone dragon. Melisandre did wake a dragon from stone, but prophecies are tricky, like the valonquar's previously.
>This is possible from Shireen's Targaryen blood. It is implied here that the first dragons may have also been people, twisted by magic in some way.
>This dragon is not Shireen, not really. She was merely the vessel. Her being was her soul, which was sacrificed to resurrect Jon
>Jon during this time was warged inside Ghost, however this has not protected him from losing parts of himself
>The new Jon is silent, cold, calculating. Ghost lay lifeless beside him
>Inside his human body now exists two minds fused in one: one of Jon and one of Ghost. He was a man, then a wolf, then a man again, but inside the man was a wolf and the wolf was also the man.
>"Shireen" the stone dragon wakes in rage and lashes out at all around her. She takes to the sky right as the sound of a horn is heard resonating in the sky
>Suddenly the wall starts to collapse and Shireen is able to fly across it towards the North
>Stannis, seeing all that had transpired, full of guilt over his daughter takes off his crown and walks across the ruined wall and disappears in the haunted forest, unable to live with himself, hoping to die.
>The Wildlings worship Jon, thinking he's some sort of god
>Jon uses it to take control and defeat the conspirators whom he brutally executes
>Selyse tries to hide, then flee, but is hunted down by Jon
>As Jon gathers the wildlings, his raven perches on him and cries "King!, Snow King!"

>>24490926

>>24491047
>Inside his human body now exists two minds fused in one: one of Jon and one of Ghost
Oooooo this is VERY Gurm. It's like the ending of his short story Under siege

>>24489588
>>24490741
>>24490878
>>24490976
>>24491047

At Skagos:
>Davos arrives on shore and is met with armed wild men, riding atop wooly rhinos, speaking the old tongue
>He tells them he has come to take Rickon Stark home
>A wild man's eyes roll upwards for a moment, before returning to normal.
>He tells Davos: "Wilderwarg tell come" as he beckons him with his hand.
>Davos follows them to a wooden longhouse deep inside the island
>Inside he sees human meat drying above a central longfire while men and women alike on their knees pray towards a figure at the back end of the room
>As he moves closer he sees the figure move, seeing it now to be a giant direwolf snarling towards him with furs standing upwards like a great mane
>Before the wolf is a throne carved from wood and great tusks
>In it sits a boy with auburn hair, as he gnaws on what appears to be the bone of an arm
>The boy looks expectantly, so Davos again says he has come to take Rickon Stark home
>The boy says he is Rickon, but he is already at home. His old home was destroyed and his family is dead, so now he has a new home and a new family
>Davos tells him he still has a living brother, Jon Snow
>He tells Rickon that King Stannis wishes to avenge his family and that they need his help, they need him to be a ruler like his father Ned was
>Rickon doesn't want to be like his father, because his father is dead. But eventually Rickon relents and agrees to help take revenge on house Stark.
>Rickons followers in the longhouse erupt in celebration at the notion of bloody vengeance.

(gonna continue my ideal continuation tomorrow, whether anyone likes it or not teehee. but for now i'm sleebing)

>>24490813
>showrunner is not only a jew but a woman as well
It's over kek.

>>24491073

The Skagosi are not cannibals, that's just tall tales.

>>24490741
a bold theory but you forgot one critical detail
>the plot hasn't progressed in 25 years

>>24490813
>>24491082

>>24491631
ffs

>>24491631
>>24491082
this got canceled years ago
https://www.avclub.com/george-r-r-martin-expresses-condolences-for-the-death-1839514663

>>24491646
>canceled

They'll just resurrect it when they run out of other shit to fuck up.

>>24491587
>>24491590
>can't read
(anon was prompted for his ideal ending, not what he believes to be the real ending as intended by the fatass. his ideas don't need to follow whatever you think is canon)

>>24491631
>Borenstein

Which sigils do (you) like best?

>>24492572
For me its house Dondarrion
Beric is probably my favorite secondary character

>>24492594
>House and sigil founded when a lightning bolt killed two Dornish men
lol

>George still hasn't corrected the spelling of ELDER RING

hmm...

>>24492572
tell me about House Banefort, why do they wear the hood?

>>24492572
Darklyn

Why is lady Nym such a lesbian and is she predatory?

>>24492817
>Why is lady Nym such a lesbian
she is? proof

I'm reading Windhaven now.

>>24488481
This tweet is still 100% accurate.

>>24491067
Crazy how that number is so high when it’s never going to happen. Easily the biggest crack ship ever.

>>24491047
>>24490976
>>24490741
So this is what happens to a fandom when a new entry isn’t given for 14 years. They write stupid shit like this.

>>24488481
Most characters are terrible in the show because showrunners have to make it as appealing to a general audience as possible by leaving out the more nuanced aspects

>>24492877
She fucks feminine blonde twins.

> "And you?"
>Nym glanced over a shoulder, to where her companions rode a dozen lengths behind. "I was abed with the Fowler twins when the word reached me," the captain heard her say. "You know the Fowler words? Let Me Soar! That is all I ask of you. Let me soar, Uncle. I need no mighty host, only one sweet sister."

>>24493244
Jeyne and Jennelyn Fowler.

>>24491949
Yeah buddy I'm not "debating" fanfiction, just commenting

>>24493244
>>24493247
fucking hot

>>24492817
all Martells are bisexual because of (the original) Nymeria's feminist genes

>>24493150
Hi Preston

>>24493272
UH OH

>>24493272
Kek get fucked George. He’s gonna see this too, I hope he fucking dies of seethe

>>24493372
>George gets bullied by Sapkowski into finishing Winds and Dream

imagine

>>24493024
feel free to share with us your own stupid shit ideal ending anon. we're all in this together

>>24493272
too bad the witcher is boring slop

>>24493272
Isn't there some rule against artists attacking other artists?

>>24493557
seems like it might be just a friendly jab

>>24493606
Fuck that, he’s shitting on George for being a lazy fuck and rightfully so

>>24492572
The scorpion on Lorch coa looks like the monster from godzilla creepypasta here.

>>24493606
>pulled a stunt like that on me
The fat retard refused to finish his books, there was no stunt pulled on him.

Redditors are seething due to the Witcher author making fun of GRRM. You love to see it.

the andals caused the long night by bringing ironworking to westeros wake up sheeple

>>24493272
Possibly the only successful fantasy writer alive that's legit a worse writer than the fat man himself.

>>24493150
>because showrunners have to

No, they don't "have to", they're just talentless hacks wholly unsuited for the task.

People want to believe Hollywood is some kinda meritocracy where actually talented artists are promoted and given the best projects but that simply isn't the case.

>>24494434
D&D are based tho, they literally said AFFC was shit and they barely read it.

>>24494048
gurm is an excellent writer, much better than sanderson, abercrombie, or sapkowski. he just refuses to writer, that's the problem

>>24494475
Nobody who writes something as insultingly bad as this can ever be based.

>>24494046
big if true

>>24493606
there's a non-zero chance he writes a seething blogpost about this

>>24494880
he could take home a minor dub if he posted another sample chapter in response.
OR HE COULD FINISH THE FUCKING BOOK FUCK YOU GEORGE
GIVE ME A RELEASE DATE

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>>24494890
>>24494890
>>24494890
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>>24489588
Gurm has set things up so that all his incomplete work will be destroyed after he dies. I unironically hope someone breaks in and takes all his shit on a thumb drive.