I don't like either of them but Plato's shit seems like peak sophistry. Aristotle might at least be somewhat coherent + he came after so he has that added hindsight.

>Sophistry means philosophy I don't like
For somebody who doesn't want to read Plato you got the spirit of what he said down pretty well.

>>24476359 (OP)
You seem too tainted for Aristotle. I'd recommend going into him via Heidegger to clean up your act with some hermeneutics.

>>24476359 (OP)
>Plato's shit seems like peak sophistry
the Platonic dialogues are the whole reason you're using the word sophistry as an insult.

>>24476369
Yes. Look at the damage he did to public discourse.

>>24476359 (OP)
>Aristotle
deboonked already

>>24476759
Elaborate.

>>24476761
soience deboonked him

>>24476759
>>24476762
You can get raped in many ways here are two

>>24476762
Well yeah but it's not like Plato got off much better.

>>24476804
Science the art of not reading nor listening

You don't have to watch the pot cause it's timed

No wonder they can't follow the flow of the conversation

>>24476759
>>24476761
>>24476762
>>24476804
You stupid niggers, you god damn stupid niggers. People like you shouldn't be allowed to read the greats.

>>24476825
people like you shouldnt be allowed to do anything

>>24476359 (OP)
You are not smart enough to grasp plato, you know it deep inside

why was there no one smarter than both Plato and Aristotle that tried to combine them, within at minimum 300 years of Plato and Aristotle?

>>24476825
>>>/a/

>>24476887
because one is metaphyiscal and the other is deductive logic through observation.

two completely different schools of thought

>>24476957
and reasonings.

>>24476957
are you somehow implying that aristotle was not metaphysical? one of his most principal works is "Metaphysics"

>>24476975
Not at all what im implying.
They both studied metaphysics. Plato focused much more on theoretics. The forms for example.

>>24476975
unlike the rationalist and empiricist debate they weren't split along the same dogmatic debate line, even though they kinda were depending on what you read and they both use form as a concept

>>24476762
he invented science, it's not his fault they hadn't developed electron microscopes yet

>>24477000
twin van man

>>24476991
he was more empirical but still made conceded that universals are more real even though we are more immediately familiar with particulars