Thread 24480201 - /lit/ [Archived: 842 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:22:18 PM No.24480201
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Have you read ayatollahs book recommendations?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:32:22 PM No.24480218
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>>24480201 (OP)
His number 1
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:34:42 PM No.24480226
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>>24480201 (OP)
His number 1
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:36:13 PM No.24480228
>>24480201 (OP)
Why does he type like a teenage girl?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:36:37 PM No.24480229
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>>24480201 (OP) (OP)
His number 1
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:38:38 PM No.24480238
>>24480201 (OP)
I know he wrote mystical theological poetry in his youth and studied philosophy (Mulla Sadra etc). Pretty sure he even wrote a commentary on the Theology of Aristotle (the Arabic version of Plotinus). Now he's going to get blown up by some fat boomer who watches FOX news 8 hours a day.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:38:39 PM No.24480239
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>>24480201 (OP)
Unironically probably more intelligent and cultured than lots of Congressmen and some recent presidents. I don’t like Islamo-fascism, even many Iranians under the regime hate it, but I can’t help but sympathize with his judgment of some Western leaders, many of whom are basically just Rothschild-and-Rockefeller stooges now (and of the Kuhns, Loebs, Morgans, Warburgs, Wallenbergs, duPonts, Medicis, etc. - international finance, old money bloodlines or offshoots of them or the associates and bankers for hem).
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:40:23 PM No.24480244
>>24480239
If Plato had acquired political power he would have been pretty much exactly the same as Khamenei. I agree with you - evil politics, he tortures dissidents, etc, not a nice dude, but I still like him more than American politicians on some level. Would drink tea with.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:44:26 PM No.24480254
>>24480239
When you see how Iran was under Khomeini compared to now it's difficult to hate the guy. Iran nowadays just look like the Balkans instead of the dark ages. I'd have a drink with him.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:48:40 PM No.24480269
>>24480228
His 13 year old wife manages his twitter account
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:50:46 PM No.24480276
>>24480269
Based if true
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:27:19 AM No.24480357
>>24480239
Why does US rarely elect any w risk smart intellectuals? Where does this aversion of intellectualism come from?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:31:04 AM No.24480369
>>24480357
No intelligent person would run for president of the US
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:52:27 AM No.24480413
>>24480357
bookcels rarely get to power by majority vote, haven't you read Plato?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:53:55 AM No.24480422
>>24480229
That’s the most generic Goodreads review synopsis of the book imaginable.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:46:41 AM No.24481147
>>24480201 (OP)
>#Books
>#AvidReader
lol
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:04:42 AM No.24481166
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His tweets are so fucking silly
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:05:43 AM No.24481169
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:10:30 AM No.24481177
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:23:55 AM No.24481195
>>24480357
It's the same problem in all democratic countries, though.
The reason is that the average person is /pol/tier in thinking, and to rile him up for voting you must use cheap emotional tricks, not rational discourse.
It's easier to sell to the public the notion that life would be better if we expel all immigrants/Russians/Jeets/Jews rather than explain how the problem lies in inequality and poor policies that would require effort and time to improve.
It's the same in Estonia.
A coked up BPD bitch who was the most profound political non entity in existence became Prime Minister due to the Russian War and by selling to the people a simple slogan - Eesti Kindlates Kattes, Estonia in Steadfast Hands - with the image of her holding her intertwined hands before her, suggesting the act of protection. For me, it was a very clear cut view into what politics is really about: emotional manipulation not that different from average marketing campaigns.
It's the reason why right wing shitholes like /pol/ have such a pull: very simple, very emotional memes that hit right into the animal soul.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:33:54 AM No.24481208
>>24481195
>It's easier to sell to the public the notion that life would be better if we expel all immigrants/Russians/Jeets/Jews
Then why don't countries do that rather than import millions of immigrants instead?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:47:45 AM No.24481221
>>24481195
You are so disconnected from actual problems that to you all problems are just some minor 7% crime or x% of the population only having y% of the capital. Yes, there are inequality issues, but there are also other issues that can quite literally be solved by deporting a lot of people quickly, by gunpoint or directly to the afterlife if necessary, and not accepting more. I'm not someone you would normally consider right wing, but in my specific case, if every single Spanish speaker and brown person in my neighborhood were deported, my life would dramatically improve. This isn't a problem of poor education or a lack of proper inculcation of Western values, you could hit these spics with every tome in the western canon and they'd still go on a shooting. In my neighborhood, there are several shootings per year, and a mother got shot in the head randomly for literally no reason three houses down from me. I hear this daily.

For a sheltered person like you, the 4% national increase in crime or whatever seems like literally nothing, for the person who has to live in the neighborhood where thst crime increases by more than 200% it's fucking bad and you fear for your life daily. If I go outside I could get shot. I don't really care if some capitalist is skimming 60% of my labor, I will die if these niggers aren't deported. It's not fascist to acknowledge it, it isn't an appeal to emotion, and many other people on /pol/ know this and see this for themselves. It seems like some emotional over-reaction because YOU don't have to deal with the negative effects of these ridiculous policies, all it looks like to you is some spreadsheet X% Y% Z%. Just unironically touch grass.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:58:29 AM No.24481226
>>24481195
True but why are you pretending multiculturalism isn't directly implemented by our elites for financial gain and they use the same techniques of emotional manipulation to force us to accept turning our country into poopistan? It's hilarious how the left have been psyops into absolutely rorting the working class because of much brown people and muh sodomy rights.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:06:25 AM No.24481239
I hate to break it to you guys, but it is not literally the Grand Ayatollah himself writing those tweets like Trump sperging out on on truth social.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:17:17 AM No.24481249
>>24481221
No, he's right, the excessive immigration amplifies the problems for the most part but they're independent from immigration in that they're structural issues and if you get them sorted out you wouldn't really need that much cheap labor/slavery, but to do that it would mean going against many vested interests burrowed too deep within at this point
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:30:45 AM No.24481258
>>24481249
>if you get them sorted out
What is "them" exactly?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:34:39 AM No.24481261
>>24481258
the problems, the lousy, lousy problems! they're structural you see, and if you fix them, they're no more! very problematic, and structural they are, these structural problems!
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:36:38 AM No.24481265
>>24481249
You said nothing relevant. You didn't even say anything at all.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:37:52 AM No.24481268
>>24481265
I said the truth. If you need it explained to you then consider reading a book or two.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:47:46 AM No.24481278
>>24481195
How the fuck do you feel entitled to speak in such a haughty tone when you are just repeating the safest, most basic bitch shitlib talking points? If you're this much of a cookie cutter retard, then lower your fucking voice when you talk to us.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:52:15 AM No.24481283
>>24481278
>Safest, most basic bitch shitlib talking points
>Haughty tone
Part and parcel innit
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:55:04 AM No.24481287
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>>24481195
Neck yourself you fucking retard. But before you do, riddle me this: what are the purely socio-economic factors that contribute to you being such a fucking poof?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:58:56 AM No.24481289
>>24481195
>The reason is that the average person is /pol/tier in thinking
God I wish
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:59:15 AM No.24481291
>>24481268
>Some problems make other problems worse
You think so, Sherlock? The fact that you could write such a trivial and inane observation as if you were contributing to anything at all means you vastly overestimate both your knowledge and intelligence. I'll read a Thomas the Tank Engine and whatever else is on your grindset.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:06:50 AM No.24481296
>>24481291
No, what I said in essence was:
>rightoids are too worried about attacking the effect when they should be looking to tackle the cause
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:11:01 AM No.24481303
>>24480201 (OP)
>>24480229
>>24480239
I'm starting to like this guy.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:11:22 AM No.24481304
>>24481296
NTA but what's the cause?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:28:12 AM No.24481318
>>24481304
What he means is that poverty that immigrants are subject to are what causes the crime, and if we just offer equal opportunities to them, crime will disappear because mudslimes pillage rape and deal drugs because they are so hecking oppressed, and once we do that all will be made clear, because race is a social construct you rightoid sicko!!
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:31:51 AM No.24481320
>>24481304
Entitlement culture, matierialism, and also extreme inequality, downstream from pervasive greed, in itself downstream from the first two.
People refuse to live with less voluntarily, commercial advertising methods reinforce entitlement, basic necessities are commodified and the indebtedness swamp makes it so everyone's nice and muffled. Consumerist propaganda makes it so short term gratification, cumulative and incessant because it doesn't satisfy wholly, is favored over absolutely meaningful experience. Normalized narcissism. Unsustainable business and social security systems victims of their own short-sighted success.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:34:18 AM No.24481325
>>24481221
Crime has been decreasing since the surge in the 1970s-1990s. Very recently it has been increasing because of soft policing policies. A tough policing regime like that in El Salvador was able to turn a country full of violent "Spics" into a safe tourist destination. Immigrants are imported by Westerners as a slave class to handle demeaning labour, like doing DoorDash deliveries and working in care homes. The far right parties always want to heap blame and scorn upon the immgirants while praising and upholding the capitalist system that has made their countries shit in the first place and have imported them as slave labour.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:34:26 AM No.24481326
>>24481320
So people 100 years ago were less greedy and that's why they didn't have millions of pajeets and muslims pouring in?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:37:07 AM No.24481327
>>24481278
>the safest, most basic bitch shitlib talking points
When will the anti-immigrant right stop pretending they're Punk Rock revolutionaries? You have the richest man in the world offering support and financial assistance to your cause. The President of the US is totally on your side. You constantly love to point out that polling suggests normies agree with you on limiting immigration. You are the establishment.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:40:36 AM No.24481330
>>24481327
Didn't Elon support bringing in even more immigrants? I know he sperged out about how stupid people that are against Indian immigrants are.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:41:29 AM No.24481334
Don't reply to the retard, he's just trolling.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:47:17 AM No.24481342
>>24481330
Yeah with the same supremacist logic. Those high IQ Indians are supposed to be genetically superior and therefore equal with white people, whereas Mexican immigrants working on farms are inferior so should be reviled.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:51:07 AM No.24481350
>>24481326
No, we didn't have excessive immigration because the system put in place allowed for it, back then, and what we're observing now is but its logically conclusive degeneration, in retrospect. Don't get me wrong, it was very successful and allowed for extreme devlopment economically and technologically, and socially goes without saying, but it's only now that we start to clearly see its shortcomings. To hinge on unlimited growth, creating a generalized greed for the superfluous, as opposed to greed for the necessary like that of 100 years ago, which I'm not sure one can even call it greed, makes it so the breakless train that's been set in motion can only stop upon slamming into an immovable wall, and the aftermath only gets worse the more you try to lessen the effects of the cause than going straight for the latter (collapse of the social state, millions of angry immigrants roaming the streets, way more volatile than they are now, etc.).
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:55:33 AM No.24481357
>>24481350
Sounds like you're asking for us to RETVRN to TRADITION, anon.
You'd be called far right in most places on the internet.
>>24481342
> Indians are supposed to be genetically superior
modern supremacism is very gay then
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:56:34 AM No.24481358
>>24481357
I don't care for right or left lables, the cattle can call me whatever it wants, it won't make me less right.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:58:54 AM No.24481361
>>24481358
You're right. Your national-socialist ideology doesn't need to be labeled. It's what's in your heart that matters.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:26:48 PM No.24481406
>>24481296
The effects in this case are an immediate danger to millions of people. Some rich person making more money than he deserves matters fuck-all when your life is in danger daily to criminal elements.
You can see the same privileged discourse here >>24481325 where the effects are minimized just because from his perspective crime is some "x%" and the criminals are just some brown person that delivers tacos to his suburban community. He doesn't live with the immediate effects that need to be addressed just as much as the cause itself.

It's like a serial killer shooting some guy in the chest:
>Help! I've been shot! I need an ambulance!

>My good sir, don't you realize your bullet wound is symptomatic of a greater, more pervasive problem?

>I really don't care right now, call the ambulance.

>You rightoids... Don't you understand that solving the immediate effect of being shot does not solve the underlying cause?

>I know there is a psycho shooting people, I just need this wound dealt with.

>My good sir, I simply do not know what you mean. Go read a book or something, then you'll understand that this was just a 0.004% chance occurance. We ought to apprehend the shooter immediately, then we have solved—

>I HAVE A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW!

>What do you mean good sir? You are merely wasting time and resources that could be allocated to solving the root issue at hand, that being the apprehension of the shooter.
For the person that doesn't suffer the immediate effect of the psycho, the solution to the immediate effects seem pointless. For hundreds of millions, whether there is some structural problem matters not-at-all compared to the immediate, easily solvable problem. Even solving the underlying cause does not solve the immediate effect that those people are dealing with in the moment, and when those issues directly, and greatly impact their standard of living, safety, etc., it will always be more important and especially more salient than solving the structural issue.
>>24481342
God you're fucking retarded. Elon Musk is a leftoid championing immigration that is wildly unpopular on the right.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:42:57 PM No.24481423
>>24481406
>>24481296
The boat is sinking. Good heavens the boat is sinking. I see holes in the ship, holes and pirates too. The pirates are quite an issue—the holes too—but whatever the case, the ship is sinking!

"Good sir," I ask the man upon the deck. "Are you the Captain?"

"Not so, I am but a lowly cook."

"I may be mistaken, but it appears as though the ship is sinking. There are holes in the hull, and pirates too, going through-it as the pirates do. Might you tell me where the Captain is, that we may remove them from the ship?"

"Science forbid! The pirate is not the problem you see, just a sign of a greater one than he. The Captain is at fault, for he gains advantage when you concern yourself with such trivialities as holes and pirates. The Captain pays us only twelve an hour and takes home the lions share, yet we must slave away on this Science-forbidden boat like dogs!"

"I see, very well. However, the boat is sinking, and there are armed pirates on the deck. I would prefer it if we could survive at least until the morrow, then we can consult about the wages. For now, let us find a way to stop the pirates?"

"Science forbid! The pirates are quite the non-factor. It is merely a symptom—"

"My good man, they are making holes in the hull, they just killed Linda and Martin, and Clarice too."

"—a symptom of the Captain's greed, who splits us man against man in the eternal war of Class—"

"Let's boot the pirates and plug the holes first, and then consult about the wages—"

"Enough about the holes! Don't you see the true enemy is inequality? Why do you think the pirates are reduced to this piracy business? If not for the Captain's greed, you and I and pirate alike would join together in arms—"

"That's wonderful, but the ship sinking. We can figure this equality business out after the holes—"

"Fudge! Enough about the holes and hole-makers! All you care about are silly emotional qualms, while people such as you or I struggle to afford basic necessities like a Nintendo Switch 2 or Universal Healthcare, all to satisfy your petty fascistic desire for control. Don't you see that if the Captain were deposed, we could support as many pirates as Science would allow, all together joined in Proletarian harmony?"

"Yes, all wonderful things. Let's deal with the Captain. Let's also deal with holes before we drown—lo! Another ship-full is boarding! Some are bearing arms!"

"Enough about the pirates! The arrival of pirates is merely an effect of the system which benefits from the division of proletariat—"

"I know! I know it's just a symptom of a greater issue! Let's boot the pirates, plug the holes, and then kick the Captain!"

"Fudge about the holes!"

It is said that all drowned quite equitably.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:07:20 PM No.24481461
>>24481423
:^)
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:19:24 PM No.24481477
>>24481423
Hole-plugging and violence against pirates is reactionary, thoughbeit. True liberation comes from class consciousness.
>drowns
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:52:08 PM No.24481549
>>24481423
It is really more dire than this, it's more like they hate the navigator because occasionally the places he navigates to are unpleasant.

"The navigator simply travels wherever he wishes, if we got rid of the navigator we'd only have to travel to the most beautiful and temperate ports"

"But we are a merchant vessel, the way we make a living is by traveling and selling goods based on demand"

"That won't be a problem, we don't need money, everyone on the boat can share"

"But there is a finite amount of food in the boat, we'll all starve"

"Enough of that reactionary rhetoric, don't you see that the navigator is simply trying to turn us against each other so he can profit"
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:13:27 PM No.24481565
>>24481342
There is no "supremacist logic", openly or cynically. Cynically he supports Indian migrants because they are perceivably good labor for the price point and are much easier to control than native workers. Openly, it's all about muh american dream and muh land of opportunity.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:15:50 PM No.24481572
>>24481195
The irony of this post is that it's ridden with dishonest, emotional appeals and flattery to one's own "intelligence" for having seen through the supposed animal programming that is so commonly used on the rest of the populace.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:22:04 PM No.24481580
>>24481423
Telling that you see the mere existence of minorities as equivalent to pirates storming a ship and capitalists exploiting workers is something that needs to be dealt with "later".
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:24:38 PM No.24481582
>>24481565
He's an IQ supremacist he sees the future of humanity as high IQ spacemen setting up colonies on the moon
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:28:31 PM No.24481587
>>24481195
>than explain how the problem lies in inequality and poor policies that would require effort and time to improve
You're right in saying that the average person falls for cheap emotional tricks, but what you suggested as an alternative is just basic bitch left wing populism, which mostly consists of, you guessed it, cheap emotional tricks.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:35:44 PM No.24481599
>>24481423
Why can't there just be a political movement that is against mass immigration, social degeneracy, etc and also against capitalism? Why is it always one or the other? The debate is just reduced to arguing about which is more important, the economic inequality or the social issues. Why can't a single movement prioritise both?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:38:40 PM No.24481610
>>24481599
Obviously because once you give into the idea that immigrants are poor because they're inferior and should be kept out of your country because they're inferior and will make your country poor, you can transfer the same hateful logic to the white poor. Why aren't they also poor on account of being inferior? And if that's the case, why should we help them? They should just accept their lot in life and be slaves to the genetically superior ruling class. That's where your own principles logically lead.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:40:10 PM No.24481611
>>24481580
>My good man, don't you see not all of these men are pirates? Some are merely vagabonds and stowaways, come to look for better opportunities within our ship. Look at that good sir over there, making use of our rations—he even cooked enough for me, good chap.

>Yes, but can we deal with the pirates before they kill us, or the holes before we drown?

>Telling... Oh telling it is that you see all of these gentleman as pirates. Such bigotry is expected of a mere "deckhand" such as yourself. And what of the Captain? You propose that we just scurry off and deal with a few armed men rather than deal with the structural issue—"

>The ship is sinking. There are armed pirates. Linda, Martin, Clarice—there those Clyde's head rolling down the deck—let's deal with this problem and then see about the wages perhaps?

>Nonsense. It is only through revolution, Comrade, that this boat may be—PROMPTLY!—saved.

>Then by plugging the holes?

>Nonsense.

>Removing the stowaways and illegal boarders?

>By Science—No!

>Arresting the pirates?

>Tyranny!

>Conserving resources for the crew and legal passengers?

>Science forbid!

>Then what is this immediate solution!

>I propose we set pamphlets about the deck until we are united as one Vanguard against the Captain, then our crew shall see, then the vagrants shall see, then the pirates shall see, then our Comrades in arms shall join in glorious revolution!

>When shall this revolution take place?

>Later.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:41:19 PM No.24481615
>>24481599
Every single one of my posts are anti-capitalist. I am a socialist. I'm just not a fucking retard that pointlessly tries to defend or deflect from salient issues because muh racism.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:47:38 PM No.24481627
>>24481406
You typed all those lamentations about your pathetic life just to miss the fact that poverty = crime is a universal equation and your naive desire to instantaneously disappear the brown people in your neighborhood is perhaps one of the most far fetched and retarded non-solutions to a problem. Stop appealing to your being in the trenches or on the frontlines, you have an ant’s perspective.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:49:31 PM No.24481630
>>24481610
>Obviously because once you give into the idea that immigrants are poor because they're inferior
This is not the argument against immigrants. This is a strawman you deluded yourself into believing followed shortly by a non-sequitur for lack of any sort of argument. Try again.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:49:50 PM No.24481631
>>24481610
> you can transfer the same hateful logic to the white poor. Why aren't they also poor on account of being inferior?
This is a logical error. It is not inconsistent to believe that "immigrants" are poor because they are "inferior", while also believing that natives are poor for other reasons.

if (inferior -> poor) -> (poor -> inferior) is affirming the consequent.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:58:04 PM No.24481644
>>24481627
An ant's perspective shared by, evidently, a very large number of people. Yes, removing the brown people would drop the crime rate to 0. Yes, removing all brown people in America would by strict, statistical necessity, regardless of whether the problem is caused by economics or not, reduce crime; In fact, I don't care whether it's caused by economics or not. I don't want to wait 30-100 years for petty bourgeois socialist reform to remedy historical systemic inequalities. I have problems and I vote to solve those problems.
Your post was devoid of a counter-argument at any level, although it was full of cheap emotional tricks (not rational discourse) as detailed here >>24481195
I'm sure they pass as arguments to someone as out of touch as you.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:10:46 PM No.24481663
>>24481631
Wow you're so smart kid. Obviously it's not a logical deduction it's just a natural way to think given the circumstances. Once you admit genetic inferiority as the primary cause of poverty in the immigrant then it's perfectly natural to ask why genetic inferiority isn't the primary cause of poverty for the white working class.
>>24481630
It's the main argument against immigration. There are also conservationist anti immigration people who want to just conserve the white race but the vast majority are supremacists who think that the immigrants are like a slave class that's only good for extracting their labour which is why they support "eugenic" immigration of high IQ people from India.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:26:13 PM No.24481681
>>24481644
>Yes, removing the brown people would drop the crime rate to 0.
Who is the one levying irrational statements?
“Make the brown people disappear” is an ant’s opinion because it shows a lack of understanding of how bureaucratically monumental and ill-conceived of a task it is. Already, due to the militarization of ICE, we’re seeing the problems of trying to make your problems go away with armed thugs: wrongful detainments and the persecution of legally abiding foreigners as well as masked agents operating as a kind of secret police. Whatever “random guy from the hood thinks” is inconsequential to me when the militarization and fascization of our country is a side effect of mass deportation that much outweighs “the people in my area happen to be illegal immigrants and do crime!” High crime areas are not limited to places with a lot of illegal immigrants. You are looking at what’s around you and making a false universalization. Your solution is foolhardy because even with high amounts of deportation, such as under Obama, as long as Central America is fucked there will always be the need for people to immigrate. That’s what the intelligent people in the room mean when they talk about structural factors. El Salvadorans in your neighborhood didn’t wake up one morning and decide to be evil to fuck with you.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:35:10 PM No.24481700
>>24481644
Men commit much more crime than women. Should we devise a system to perhaps inject boys with estrogen so they become less violent?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:54:20 PM No.24481732
>>24481663
>Wow you're so smart kid. Obviously it's not a logical deduction it's just a natural way to think given the circumstances.
Fallacious.
>Once you admit genetic inferiority as the primary cause of poverty in the immigrant then it's perfectly natural to ask why genetic inferiority isn't the primary cause of poverty for the white working class.
Which has nothing to do with anti-immigration sentiment. Your problems are a result if a lack of intelligence thoughbeit.
>It's the main argument against immigration
No it isn't.
>vast majority are supremacists who think that the immigrants are like a slave class that's only good for extracting their labour
No they aren't.
>Your entire post
smdh you're genuinely a retard. You are a machine that takes in words that you don't understand and spits out fallacies and bottom of the barrel IQ takes.

>>24481681
>Who is the one levying irrational statements?
Do you want statistics? In your next reply, make a direct statement. Say specifically, with no ambiguity at all: If all non-whites were gone from the USA, would average crime increase or decrease? Then we can see who is "levying irrational arguments."
>is an ant’s opinion because it shows a lack of understanding of how bureaucratically monumental and ill-conceived of a task it is.
There are many other positions where the same can be said. It's a proletarian ant's opinion that the economic system can be reformed or replaced with an equitable and effective socialist system, especially when it has failed wherever it has been tried. Why should I care about some ant's opinion?

This is, again, not an argument at all. Why are you so bad at this?
>The rest of your post
All moralization. What effects? Just like you don't care what some hood guy thinks, the popular vote majority disagrees with you. Disagreement is not an argument.
>High crime areas are not limited to
Yes, this doesn't falsify my statement. This isn't an argument.

>Your solution is foolhardy ... as long as Central America is fucked there will always be the need for people to immigrate. That’s what the intelligent people in the room mean when they talk about structural factors.
I have never seen someone so retarded. What about some other region having problems creates a logical, structural factor whereby another arbitrary nation must accept immigtants? This necessity only exists in your head.

Whether the problem is universal is not relevant. Your little moral qualms are not relevant. Whether you consider my problem to be inconsequential is not relevant. Your side-effects are irrelevant to me. You have not formulated a single argument in your entire mouth-breathing post.
>>24481700
You are creating a false equivalency. Voting against accepting immigrants does not mean I believe we should go ahead and end all suffering while maximizing pleasure by putting all people into experience machines. Even accepting your argument, it doesn't work: "Immigrant" is a choice made, not a biology.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:02:39 PM No.24481745
>>24480238
Islamic spiritual poetry is boring. It's not as good as someone like John Donne. It's just "ooh god is love and he is delicious like fine wine and everyone is one in the embrace of god" blabla
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:21:55 PM No.24481792
>>24481681
>>24481732
Oh wait, before you respond, it just occured to me that you may be even more retarded than I first thought.
>Who is the one levying irrational statements?
>“Make the brown people disappear”
When I said removing brown people would reduce crime to 0, I meant my neighborhood. Besides me, all other families are brown. I do not commit crime. Removing all brown people will by necessity reduce the crime rate to 0, because there will only be 1 family, me, who has never committed any legal crime. I'm assuming you were trying to be a "smart kid" and forgot the next line
>Yes, removing all brown people in America would by strict, statistical necessity, regardless of whether the problem is caused by economics or not, reduce crime;
Refers to the extension of the issue on my neighborhood to the country as a whole, which is a response to your:
>your naive desire to instantaneously disappear the brown people in your neighborhood is perhaps one of the most far fetched and retarded non-solutions to a problem.
Which quite literally would solve the problem, because it would make the only resident in my neighborhood to be me, and the majority of people here are already immigrants or second generation immigrants.

Not looking good for you.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:17:31 PM No.24482255
sl k2
sl k2
md5: a16a84eaf2e1eeab8e6344859908a3e1🔍
Replies: >>24482268 >>24486108
nomad
6/20/2025, 7:22:22 PM No.24482263
1697908564537677
1697908564537677
md5: e194488b9fcd2adb0686c60e48041cf2🔍
>>24480229
What other books has he stated are good?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:24:14 PM No.24482268
>>24482255
>bmw
like moths to a flame
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:40:43 PM No.24482622
>>24480229
>guy famous for hating westoids and their degeneracy
>his favorites books were all written by westoid degenerates
HMM
Replies: >>24483049
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:57:24 PM No.24483038
>>24480229
>Good taste in literature
>Hates the USA
Holy based
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:59:09 PM No.24483047
>>24480228
Most Iranians have a curiously effeminate typing style
Repressed spiritual feminine side
Replies: >>24483056 >>24484611
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:00:11 AM No.24483049
>>24482622
He is a phoney. He introduced transexuality to his country
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:01:45 AM No.24483054
>>24480201 (OP)
Putin recommended the Silver Knight and the Twelve Chairs. Both are pretty good but very degenerate
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:01:57 AM No.24483056
>>24483047
They are poets at heart. Living proof of the warrior-poet.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:06:48 AM No.24483070
>>24483056
They are no warriors. Warriors do not need to chop off little girls' breasts for reading yuri manga. They don't need to whip women into submission because women are naturally attracted to them. They are cursed forever for having betrayed the Shah
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:55:48 AM No.24484206
>>24480229

So does he have any more?

This is the only book he recommends in this entire thread.
Replies: >>24485312
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:00:13 AM No.24484212
>>24483070
They're warriors. Who gives a shit about all that. And the "shah" is an ugly turkish nigger.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:25:31 PM No.24484611
>>24483047
We have healthy relationships with our mothers and a refined sensitivity that makes women at ease with us while still retaining our masculine potency and vigor.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:47:01 PM No.24484664
>>24483070
They were effeminate before they betrayed the Shah
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:50:56 PM No.24484678
>>24480244
Pretty sure he is literally inspired by the Republic
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:04:24 PM No.24484711
>>24481327
Trump is very enthusiastic about bringing in third worlders, just legally. The maximization of room temperature IQ brown rapists and drug dealers in every Western country continues to be a universal imperative.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:40:35 PM No.24484782
>>24481278
>talking to us
>us
That anon youre responding to is a typical retard but this isn't group therapy, none of us friends, retard.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 3:58:55 PM No.24484826
>>24480201 (OP)
>not into cinema and visual arts
Is the Islamic Republic the closest thing to a realization of the ideals of Plato's Republic?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:01:46 PM No.24484840
>>24484826
Last I checked they do not have a marriage lottery secerately controlled by ruling theologians
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:04:34 PM No.24484851
>>24484840
>closest thing =/= identical thing
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:07:05 PM No.24484860
>>24484851
There's also the fact the philosophy is distinguished from theology by the fact they seek explanations of the world surrounding them by observing the world around them, rather then accepting ready-made myths, theology is therefore antithetical to philosophy (and it was latin scholasticists and muslim scholars who used greek and later philosophy to bolster their theological consistency)
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:52:17 PM No.24484975
>>24483070
Kys, Jew. Getting tired of your psyops. With or without Islam, Iranians would still be your enemy. Cyrus/Kourosh made a mistake freeing (((them))) from Babylonian captivity.
Israel is the number 1 sponsor of terrorism, number 1 in illegal organ trade & human trafficking, and a genocidal criminal syndicate.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 6:56:50 PM No.24485262
>>24482263
incredibly based
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:17:39 PM No.24485312
Screenshot 2025-06-21 101701
Screenshot 2025-06-21 101701
md5: 16de4741b35939a73938a0119b323a10🔍
>>24484206
From a website called Shia Chat
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:20:15 PM No.24485316
40c78bad-3bc3-487e-8428-6ac74f3ff4b2
40c78bad-3bc3-487e-8428-6ac74f3ff4b2
md5: ae7aa0131ba406451eb751cb0b064953🔍
You aren't reading the books that actually influential world leaders (proclaimed dictators) are reading?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:25:05 PM No.24485333
GkbpylFXoAAqnef
GkbpylFXoAAqnef
md5: 772596faf429b1fa11076f2dbdaa1a0d🔍
>>24484678
Khamenei is kind of a pseud, but Khomeini was influenced by Mullah Sadra, who was influenced by Al-Farabi, who was influenced by Plato's Republic and Laws; so that's the Golden Chain.

Iranian revolutionaries during the Islamic Revolution also made great use of Heidegger.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:36:53 PM No.24485510
>>24482263
>"You've written a trite, derivative novel with tepid, shallow writing. You must now die."
He really is one of us
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:37:51 PM No.24485795
He wrote an actually useful article:

https://english.khamenei.ir/news/4679/I-read-through-an-eight-volume-set-of-books-on-the-bus-Imam
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 1:05:10 AM No.24486108
>>24482255
>and how about you, every Persian guy ever
>WHITE BMW
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 3:19:02 AM No.24486398
>>24481627
Walk into a ghetto right now you faggit niggerlover
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:22:20 AM No.24486498
1750551382172344
1750551382172344
md5: 02050f3d8f644b6fb85e3464ee215cbe🔍
Replies: >>24486500
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:23:45 AM No.24486500
1750342464382289
1750342464382289
md5: d4c91a806f42a3928f62ac691acea37a🔍
>>24486498
he's a sensitive young man
Replies: >>24486502
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:24:48 AM No.24486502
1742577156567028
1742577156567028
md5: f1dda649a2753167799aa56719fbb5c0🔍
>>24486500
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:27:21 AM No.24486503
>>24480228
kek
>>24480269
KEK
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:37:12 AM No.24486509
>>24481195
Based and perhaps keyed.