>reading makes you stupid
Was he right?

I'm talking about Socrates btw.

>>24487092 (OP)
He was 100% right. There is no tangible benefit to reading, intellectual or otherwise. It's just failed men reading the mental masturbation of grifters that have been dead for 200 years. It's just the e-daddy grift for dudes that think they're too good for the modern e-daddies, just like how some retards play 30 year old video games because they "don't make them like they used to".

>>24487095
Sorry buddy I gotta issue you one of these for this post.

>>24487092 (OP)
>"I'm too smart to read."
Butty obvs has ADHD.

>>24487092 (OP)
>needed all that booklearning when he went before a judge

He wasn't right enough to make any of that a conviction.

>>24487092 (OP)
Jesus Christ... you should NOT be on camera if you look like this

>>24487092 (OP)
>dude bitches, chaos, and cars lmao
Did he forget he's supposed to be a muslim?

>>24487173
Yes, he should be focusing on raping 9 year olds!

>>24487092 (OP)
Socrates didn't gave much to read. He could still come up with ideas never said before just hanging out and drinking with his buddies. Reading is more interesting today than in his day.

>>24487181
Yes because our buddies are retarded now. Software engeneers at best, which could be even worse.

>>24487092 (OP)
Is he not even trying to cover up the fag lisp anymore?

>>24487173
The only reason he's Muslim is because they're the ones that let him rape girls.

>>24487092 (OP)
Fagdrew Tate says trannies can be a "10", also he's a Muslim dog who preaches lies about Christianity.

>>24487211
Why are there so many Europeans who turn to religions and philosophies of the East (Islam, Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism etc.) instead of focusing on the religion that has been practiced here for thousands of years (Christianity) and our culture is based on?

>>24487211
He right

>>24487220

>>24487214
Religion as actually practiced in the West has become so decayed that people turn to Eastern traditions which they perceive as more pure, ignoring that practice in those countries suffers from the same problems.

>>24487225
You could discard the elements you perceive as being decayed and focus on elements that are still pure. We are lucky that we have access to thousands of years of great Christian writings that come from a time where Christianity had a different standing in the world. The great thing about eternal wisdom is that it's eternal and thus still is relevant today.

>>24487223
Just talking facts

>>24487240
>has to hide face, man hands, and most of body
You're clearly just a porn addict.

>>24487252
>has to hi-
>ACK

>>24487269
Schopenhauer was being ironic in that aphorism...

>>24487257
You're just a pedophile.

>>24487270
just keep fucking reading retard. don't respond.

>>24487092 (OP)
I want to punch his fucking teeth out before giving him a lecture on the benefits of one's ballsack smashed into pulp with a golf club while tied to a tree where no one can hear him squealing like bitch for me to spare his pathetic waste of a life.

is that normal?

>>24487324
based ESL.

>>24487214
Maybe it's all the microplastics and xeno-estrogens and birth control (that doesn't get filtered at the water treatment plants) in the water and soi in the food, they're all super effeminate and faggy and they love their Eastern religion garbage. Even Islam is effeminate, their men literally wear dresses and raping young boys is common in many Islamic countries but they claim it's "not gay" because it's "not love".

>>24487269
Schopenhauer somewhere says that Socrates was a brainlet for not writing his thought down, and that every serious thinker should do that. Not to mention he quotes classic authors all the time. He's just against the conflation of being smart and being well-read.

>I'm too smart
>my brain is far too advanced

>bitches, chaos, action

He's right but not for the reason he thinks.

>>24487356
He's not right and neither are you.

>>24487351
>Schopenhauer somewhere says that Socrates was a brainlet for not writing his thought down
he also said Socrates was stupid because he had a big belly.

it sounds silly right? because you are butchering the thought by taking it out of context. he wrote that to show why he believes Plato came up with the philosophy, wrote the books and used Socrates only as a character to voice his opinions.

>every serious thinker should do that
I think you are making a mistake again. maybe my memory fails me but I don't think he said "should", he simply noted that they do that because a thinker is afraid of losing his valued ideas. lack of such a reflex in Socrates is one of the reasons that led him to think he was not a thinker.

>He's just against the conflation of being smart and being well-read.
nope. he does not say that anywhere. he's literally against to the idea of cramming books into your brain.

>>24487092 (OP)
stop posting this babbling monkey here, chaim.

>>24487214
attraction to the exotic I guess. Devon Stack mentioned it.

>>24487092 (OP)
This guy is a rapist, is attracted to children, is hateful, and worst of all he has a shrimp dick.

>>24487092 (OP)
>I'm talking about Socrates btw.
socrates' argument against writing has to be taken in the context of you reading it in a work written by plato
by writing it down, plato is implicitly making the claim that he has solved the problem he is having socrates describe

>>24487209
I thought that was Jews.

>>24487905
He has a jewish handler (not joking).

>>24487905
It's both the Talmud and the Quran which promote rape and pedophilia.

>>24487092 (OP)
post the original undoctored antistratfordian version

>>24487947
What parts of him do they handle?

>>24487270
no

>Students and scholars of all kinds and every age as a rule are only focused on information, not on insight. They make it a point of honour to have information about everything, about all rocks, plants, battles, experiments and especially about every manner of book. It does not occur to them that information is a mere means to insight, having little or no value in itself, whereas it is the way of thinking that characterizes philosophical minds. Occasionally, when I consider the impressive erudition of these know-it-alls I say to myself: oh how little they have had to think about, in order to have been able to read so much! Even when it is reported of the elder Pliny that he was constantly reading, or having things read to him at the table, on trips, in the bath and so on, the question arises for me whether the man was so terribly lacking in thoughts of his own that those of others had to be incessantly transfused to him, just as a consommé is given to a consumptive to keep him alive. And neither his undiscriminating gullibility nor his unspeakably repulsive, incomprehensible, and paper-saving collectanea style does anything to give me a high opinion of his capacity to think for himself.

>In the same way, new and great ideas and insight will be achieved only by those who have, as the immediate object of their studies, the attainment of their own knowledge and are quite unconcerned about that of others. But scholars, as a rule, study for the purpose of being able to teach and write; and so their heads resemble a stomach and intestines whence the food again passes away undigested. Their teaching and writing will, therefore, be of little use; for others cannot be nourished with undigested refuse and leavings, but only with the milk that has been secreted from the blood itself.

>the philosopher always becomes such as the result of a perplexity from which he tries to disengage himself. this is plato's thaumazein, astonishment - a very philosophical emotion (theatetus, 155D). but what distinguishes ungenuine from genuine philosophers is that this perplexity comes to the latter from looking at the world itself, to the former merely from a book, a philosophical system which lies in front of them. this was also the case with Fichte, for he became a philosopher merely over Kant's thing-in-itself, and had it not been for this would most probably have concerned himself with quite different things with much greater success, for he possessed considerable rhetorical talent.

>>24487269
>>24487270
>Schopenhauer was being ironic in that aphorism...
>>24487351
>He's just against the conflation of being smart and being well-read.
I know that none of you read books, but can you at least read the paragraph posted?
He says clearly "If anyone spends almost THE WHOLE DAY reading..". He even compares it to a person riding a horse all the time instead of walking. Do you think he is arguing against using horses as a means of transportation?

>>24487092 (OP)
>I'm too smart to read
>see, I need constant action. I need fast cars, I need girls, champagne, I need action and explosions and lots of fast paced stimulating experiences for my brain to digest quickly
>see, everything has to be FAST because my brain gets BORED if things are slow, because my brain just processes information so FAST that if I try to read, it's just boring, because it's not FAST ACTION PACKED EXPLOSION SPORTSCAR HOT GIRL
>I can't sit down and mentally digest complex themes, connecting the dots while dodging intentional misdirections like red herrings meant to act as cognitive dead-zones to keep me off the author's intent trail
>that's something only stupid people do. Stupid people with slow brains
>my brain is FAST, not slow
>and FAST equals INTELLIGENT
>just like my computer is FAST
>FASTER = BETTER
A fly's brain is four times as fast as a human's at processing sensory information. I guess that means a fly is 4 times more intelligent than Andrew Shite. Makes sense, all things considered.

>>24487092 (OP)
>My brain is too advanced
>Needs constant chaos/action
Kek, what an ugly brainlet. I guess he needs constant distraction to forget how much of a douche nozzle he is.

>>24487214
Christianity was based on what was already popular in Greece at the time, not the other way around.
The philosophy of Christianity is almost entirely Grecian and it was projected onto a disconnected Jewish cult proselytizing in the area that aligned with Platonism 'well enough'.

>>24487095
I'm sure watching YouTubers like this nigger or playing brand new videogames games is smarter than reading a book.
Tate probably just can't read, it's common these days, most people are illiterate in the sense that they can read short sentences but not entire pages.
Barely anyone around me can read a book it's hilarious and a eye opening experience.
>give the epic of Gilgamesh I've read in 2 hours to my dad
>that's too unbelievable I can't read
>give the WW1 rain of steel book to a friend who went in the army when he was young
>never hear anything from him again
>give books he wanted to read to my neighbor
>he tells me he has trouble reading he's sort of dyslexic
When I explain what I've read though people listen when the story is great.
Was reading just a fad that lasted a few centuries / decades for the the normies?

>>24487092 (OP)
Dunning Kruger effect, anyone? Reading is about the only channel we have to listen to the wise men of the past. If you think you're too smart to read Aristotle, Dante, Joyce or the Bible, then you're probably just too great a fool to recognize your own folly. Tate doesn't care about wisdom, he cares about hedonism. Pleasure in the present moment and possibly some present discomfort for the sake of pleasure in a future moment. For him there is no benefit to reading because it doesn't make you money, doesn't get you women, (I.e. future pleasure) and it doesn't provide momentary pleasure. He's a fag, no different from a feminist, only caring about pleasure and not truth, goodness, or beauty.
In addition, in Socrates' day, oral traditions still reigned supreme. He probably heard a shit ton of poetry recited and saw plays performed; these were his ways of accessing the wisdom of those who came before him in order to build upon them.

>>24487092 (OP)
>many people (including Christians) actually care what this hedonistic faggot ejaculates from his retarded mouth

>>24487095
midwit

>>24487269
>reading is le bad
>writes it down

>>24487095
>some retards play 30 year old video games because they "don't make them like they used to".
This is me, lol

>>24487269
Do you retards not understand that he literally implies here that reading is a necessary step in learning and gaining access to new ideas but the point is that you need to exercise these ideas through your own will? Lots of you are extremely shallow thinkers

>>24487092 (OP)
If I agreed with Andrew Tate about anything, I'd kill myself.

I want to hear more about this pirate. What did he do on the boat?

>>24487905
Jews, Christians, and Muslims are all fine with rape as long as you marry the child first.

>>24487092 (OP)
>I read that reading makes you stupid

>>24491391
Gottem

>>24491161
I think he's right about women but nearly wrong about everything else

>>24491339
Explain what's wrong with rape without making appeals to emotion or humanitarian silliness.

>>24491480
this is why people hate 4chan

>>24487173
That was before he converted.

>>24491507
So? I don't care about the opinions of the unwashed masses. Tell it someone who actually gives a shit.

>>24491480
Rape violates the principle of reciprocity.
I don't want to get raped so I don't do it to others. Rapists get treated "very well" in prison. So that's nice.

>>24487092 (OP)
Ahh yes I'll listen to a retarded nigger baboon, who'll be a literally who in a few years.

>>24491760
Prisoners are retards incapable of self government. Plus sex's solitary function is to produce children which none of them know about because they're faggots.

>>24491765
Is this a convoluted way of expressing that rapists won't get raped in prison because males can't bear children? Rapists are pretty low status in prison, probably just a tiny step above pedophiles and get to enjoy experiencing what' it's like to be a living Fleshlight for horny inmates. I think the drive to humiliate others is only if the main motivators besides sexual urges but I don't know for sure because I'm no rapist or convicted criminal.

>>24491783
You do know they're in there because they couldn't stop breaking the law right? Not just rapists. All of them. I'm just saying that ten seconds of slightly uncomfortable sex is not that big of a deal compared to stabbing someone or robbing a store or even selling heroin and causing someone to overdose.

Tate's trying to move to politics and he sounds like a turbo retard.

>>24491794
Humans operate on a very simple rule in society: Don't do to others what you wouldn't want done to you.
Your insistency in labaling rape as a minor inconvenience begs the question: Do you wish to get raped, anon?

>>24487095
People play video games and read because they enjoy it. Andrew is the exact type of guy you described.

>>24487092 (OP)
Why do I need to take advice from someone who looks like the IRL version of the amerimutt meme?
>>24491794
It's about power.
You're keeping a person immobile; you beat that person; you dominate that person physically; you cause that person physical harm to the genitals; you distort the sexual response of the person.
The experience is about your control being taken away totally from you combined with damage to sexual organs and to the sexual act itself, which for a lot of normal people that aren't Estonian or Russian is considered a natural and pleasurable and intimate act to be performed with someone you love and care about after a period of getting acclimatized with him or her.
The experience of rape leaves even adult people with a low self worth due to its extreme humiliating nature, an inability to trust others, inability to experience intimate bonding and sexual enjoyment, persistent chronic anxiety about people in general and, in extreme cases, psychotic paranoid beliefs and panic and PTSD attacks.
You should try and find a pedo victim and try to argue with her or him that the experience has been only 10 seconds of slightly uncomfortable sex.

>>24491909
Its not though. In order for someone to exist, sex needs to happen. This isn't up for debate, Katie. Either more men need vaginal access or another population bottleneck is going to happen. You are complicit in genocide.

>>24491909
Don't bother.

>>24491909
He's technically British

>>24491921
He's a humanzee.

>>24491909
The fuck is that part about Russians and Estonians supposed to mean?

>>24491391
Socrates did not read that however.

>>24487162
>Ayys get this, so why can't people?

>>24487092 (OP)
No, but I think you should read only what strongly interests you in the manner you like. You don't have to start with the x. You don't have to read the entire z canon.
Just read what your areas interest you, and you're already more well-read than the masses.

>>24491764
this is refuted by the fact that your family has a library but you are a bunch of loser nobodies.

>>24491783
Neither pedophiles nor rapists tend to be placed in general population. They're left together in a facility to rape each other.

>>24487214
European attitudes are shaped further by their spiritual inclination to Paganism than their importing of the foreign Christianity. I have no ill-will towards either but this is the objective truth of the matter.

>>24487905
Muslims are Jews.

>>24487214
Wasn't Jesus supposed to come back at some point? Where is he?

>>24487092 (OP)
He sounds retarded. Smart people don’t necessarily enjoy reading, though. It may even be overly stimulating. Something he doesn’t understand. Processing words is chaotic to some minds.

>>24487214
>bases his whole online presence on bitching about women and calling them whores
>converts to the religion that gives you total ownership over your woman
Gee I wonder. Goobers like him wear religion like a fancy watch, it just gives him a reason to talk about Mohamed being based and red pilled and how Tate was right about women all along.

>>24487092 (OP)
>I’m too smart
>my brain is too advanced
Um.
Did he really think this would sound good.

>>24488530
Reaction times are correlated with IQs, but Tate here represents the bad side of “fast thinkers”, meaning he’s always in the moment and doesn’t like to ponder or think things through critically. Probably.

Please tell me he’s not serious.

>>24492831
Yeah. That’s called having a short attention span. Guy’s an insecure moron. “Reading is too hard therefore books bad!”. What the hell.

>>24487092 (OP)
Why are men this ugly taken seriously? If a woman of equivalent arguments was making equivalent points she would be in a feminist cringe compilation
It's bewildering
>>24487989
It's literally only the Quran. The section of the Talmud that gets posted by /pol/tards and the e-celeb black girl who denies the Holocaust was badly edited and even Hindus used to recognise that children can't consent.
It doesn't mean that these cultures aren't effected by the cancer of paedophilia now but the only religion that actively encourages it is Islam

>>24487092 (OP)
The problem is less reading on its own, but treating reality as something limited by linguistic abstractions or assuming possessing a verbose lexicon is equivalent to being correct. These tend to be flaws with people who are well-read, but that’s not the same as reading being inherently bad.

>>24493482
In general women are treated with less compassion than men are.
>A man shoots up a school
>But the male loneliness epidemic, muh mental health
>A woman rants about men shooting up school on the Internet
>She's a feminist extremist and a hater
I've also literally never seen a man being called a slut for being raped by another man, even if he was shirtless in public

>>24493511
lol

>>24493511
why do all the ftm trannies rope themselves if being male is so great?

>>24493515
You know its true. Whenever there's a male mass shooter there's people in the comments section calling him a poor baby. Meanwhile women get harshly criticised for mild things. How many of the tumblrinas (disgusting as they are) actually assaulted a guy or committed a crime in real life? Meanwhile their male equivalent (ugly, loud about hating the opposite sex on the web) is actually dangerous
>>24493521
Why do mtf trannies? Transexuals in general are mentally disturbed men and women who try to fix themselves by turning themselves into the opposite sex. When they chop their body parts off and its only worse of course they kill themselves

>>24493511
What are you talking about? Whenever a mass shooting takes place it’s a nation wide tragedy with widespread mourning and flags are always ordered at half-staff. Within the media these events are weaponized by gun-control advocates. Also, nobody cares about male loneliness. Feminists don’t care about it, and the average male also doesn’t care about other men being lonely. This world you crafted only exists in your head.

>>24493542
It depends but a lot of news outlets try to talk about males and mental health too; many journals including feminist ones push the male loneliness epidemic propaganda.
Also

>>24493551
It doesn’t excuse murdering people, but acknowledging mental health as a motivating factor isn’t invalid. If you’re bullied constantly with no reliable authority figure or social system to help you out or possess an outlet to express anger then you become a pressure cooker waiting to explode. There is an obvious link to crime and poverty. Which doesn’t excuse violent crime, but that also doesn’t mean we shouldn’t alleviate poverty especially with the intention of reducing crime.

>>24493611
>It doesn’t excuse murdering people, but acknowledging mental health as a motivating factor isn’t invalid. If you’re bullied constantly with no reliable authority figure or social system to help you out or possess an outlet to express anger then you become a pressure cooker waiting to explode. There is an obvious link to crime and poverty. Which doesn’t excuse violent crime, but that also doesn’t mean we shouldn’t alleviate poverty especially with the intention of reducing crime.
Good points, but it seems to just further stigmatise the poor and the mentally ill. Many people who are poor or suffering from mental illness never cross the line into murder but saying that their condition causes violence makes people treat them worse

>>24493622
I totally agree. Which is why I said it doesn’t excuse their actions. People who murder should be punished by being tossed in jail with the key thrown out. However, if it prevents future incidences and helps other people along the way via making society a better place to live in then it’s worthy punishment of acknowledging as a problem to fix.

>>24493515
lmao even

He makes the meat head gymbro crowd look really stupid

>>24493521
FtMs are less likely to rope than MtFs

>>24487214
Postmodernism and the school of resentment wearing our universities as skinsuits have instilled in the westoid a deep self loathing of his own culture. Christianity is le bad because of the crusades and stuff. Eastern religions have no dedicated hecklers poisoning the well over here.

>>24493622
Have you ever endured severe physical or emotional trauma

>nooo he's stupid! you obviously have to read because [verbiage that leads to nothing]

>>24487214
Because Christianity failed?

>>24487363
And neither are you. And neither am I.

>>24487396
You come across angry with envy.