← Home ← Back to /lit/

Thread 24488678

33 posts 4 images /lit/
Anonymous No.24488678 >>24488779 >>24488905 >>24495564
The Netanyahus
Anons, I picked up this book to read today, but I was taken back by all the usual suspect markers all around the cover. Before loosing my time I wish to know, is it worth to read?
Anonymous No.24488779 >>24491531 >>24495438 >>24496909
>>24488678 (OP)
I’ve read a lot of Cohen
Wouldn't recommend him but he’s very talented, Bloom thought he was great
But he’s a nihilistic egoist (does his work enlighten, or does it just display virtuosity? — and if youre looking for virtuosity read Book Of Numbers)
He came from a devout Zionist family (i remember reading his uncle advice him as a young journalist, “more simple declarative sentences supportive of Israel”) but being an accomplished man of letters who fornicates and likes P Roth and is attracted to socialism he feels ambivalent
I really don’t care about liberal minded Jews ambivalency about Israel, and expressing this ambivelncy through sophisticated art , snore!
Read his other work instead
Anonymous No.24488905 >>24489228
>>24488678 (OP)
Does he still lurk here?
Anonymous No.24488936 >>24489134 >>24489228 >>24490784 >>24491410 >>24491566 >>24491987 >>24492247
The best part of the book is the Afterword where he shares a letter sent to him by an unnamed female relative of Harold Bloom
>Dear Joshua Cohen, I've just finished reading your 'book' and I'm going to say it once and for all and that's it: Judaism is just another word for THE PATRIARCHY (and for PATRIARCHAL HEGEMONY). We're all one people, the Human People, with no differences between us. The planet is ruined, the machines are taking over, and none of this Jewish crap still matters. WAKE UP!!!!!! No one reads books anymore and the Jews are either on the wrong side of history or just irrelevant. IF YOU'RE HAVING AN IDENTITY CRISIS, I'm sorry, but your only choice is to expand your consciousness and join the Human People in our common struggle against pollution and technology or spend the rest of your life crying for a past that let's be honest couldn't have been that great if this is where it leads. Everything you believe in never existed, including your individual self, if you ever believed you could change that. Admit it, even literacy is dying--and when the last old Jew of you is finally as dead as (((God))) this proud nonbyinary dyke YES DYKE IS GOING TO DANCE NAKED AS HELL ON HIS GRAVE.
Anonymous No.24489134
>>24488936
Anonymous No.24489228 >>24489265
>>24488936
Based and Weininger pilled
>>24488905
How do you know?
But yea he definitely does/has
Hi Joshua!
Anonymous No.24489265 >>24489846
>>24489228
There was that time where he said, well I'm off to write a novel! Nobody thought it was going to be a Pulitzer prize winner.
Anonymous No.24489846
>>24489265
That's our Josh!
Anonymous No.24490673 >>24490737 >>24491847 >>24495986
The reason poeple will not read this book is they have no interest in reading some light-hearted comedy about the family of some bloodthirsty genocidal maniac.
Anonymous No.24490737
>>24490673
But it totally clowns them.
Anonymous No.24490784
>>24488936
as if we needed any more proof that what dykes actually crave is corrective rape.
Anonymous No.24491410
>>24488936
>(((God)))
what did she mean by this
Anonymous No.24491531 >>24491571 >>24491847
>>24488779
> Jew thought Jew was great
Shocker
Anonymous No.24491532 >>24491574 >>24491847
Is he a talented writer? Yeah, he’s not bad. Is he worth reading at all? Not even a little bit. You literally can only appreciate his books if you’re a Jew, a philosemite, or some kind of antisemite picking it apart for psychoanalysis or some schizo code breaker project, which is probably /pol/‘s next new low by the way.
Anonymous No.24491566
>>24488936
Would think that Jews would have a harder grasp on their female relatives knowing their culture.
Anonymous No.24491571
>>24491531
They're not really a hive mind though. Almost every political or social worldview has had its share of Jews and they don't always have kind words to say about each other.
Anonymous No.24491574
>>24491532
>some kind of antisemite picking it apart for psychoanalysis
This is probably the next step for them, reclaiming psychoanalysis for the right.
Anonymous No.24491665
If he's going to shill his book, he should at least do an AMA
Anonymous No.24491847 >>24491967 >>24493380
>>24491531
You sound ignorant and this kind of braindead anti-semitism isn't helpful. Bloom promoted Freud and Kafka but it wasn't like we was subservient to Jewish writers or give them special treatment, besides personal interest. He didn't like Saul Bellow for example. Cohen is a real artist with taste and a lot better than Franzen or Wallace.
And Cohen is better read than anyone on this board. Of course he's a slave to liberal opinion and so his work suffers from that
>>24490673
Good point. My problem is this kind of thing isn't taking things seriously (Weininger actually said that was the sin of Judaism: to not take things seriously, to smile at God.) He wants it both ways. Jewish family sentimentalism and humanist morality. It's dishonest. (But this dishonesty comes down to the hoax at the end of the day.) I like Joshua a lot though. Greatness is a difficult path and I don't expect people to break out of their "race"/upbringing
>>24491532
Book of Numbers is a great attempt at an "Internet Novel". There's no modern novel that can compare (on the other hand who else can get published? Jews actually have a literary culture so talents can break through). And the idea of avoiding Jewish stuff or not taking interest in it is unreasonable. It's like avoiding the internet or blocking out all media. To understand modernity you need to understand Judaism: with sympathy but also critically
Anonymous No.24491967 >>24492025
>>24491847
>The book centers on a fictionalized account of Harold Bloom's encounter with Benzion Netanyahu and his family
Anonymous No.24491987
>>24488936
based
Anonymous No.24492025
>>24491967
What's your point?
It turns out the story might not be real--or the real story is also a ficitonalization from something less interesting. Bloom liked to make up tales about himself
Anonymous No.24492033
Oh, are you referring to Bloom's alleged favoritism? Bloom died before the book was written. If so, you are retarded
Anonymous No.24492247
>>24488936
jej
Anonymous No.24493380
>>24491847
>a lot better than Franzen
Thinnest kid at fat camp
>or Wallace.
Now hold on
Anonymous No.24493644 >>24494157
We really want to read about BenZION Netanyahu
Anonymous No.24494157
>>24493644
I did, it's why I read it
Anonymous No.24495438 >>24497170
>>24488779
Witz is virtuosity, Book of Numbers is boring
Anonymous No.24495564
>>24488678 (OP)
This summary tells you everything you need to know.
>"The Pulitzer citation for the novel described it as, 'a mordant, linguistically deft historical novel about the ambiguities of the Jewish-American experience, presenting ideas and disputes as volatile as its tightly-wound plot.'"
Anonymous No.24495986 >>24496798
>>24490673
>light-hearted comedy
It basically accuses Bibi and his brother of being serial rapists from birth
Anonymous No.24496798
>>24495986
Where?
Anonymous No.24496909
>>24488779
it might always come back to philip roth (when describing someone like that), and i appreciate it
Anonymous No.24497170
>>24495438
I actually found BoN moving