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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:02:03 PM No.24490848
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The Eternal Recurrence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb79IM0UcJM

Nietzsche's concept of Eternal Recurrence (or "eternal return") is one of the most profound and challenging ideas in his philosophy, appearing notably in The Gay Science and Thus Spoke Zarathustra. It's not simply a cosmological claim, but primarily a thought experiment with immense ethical and existential implications.

At its heart, the Eternal Recurrence posits the possibility that this life, exactly as you are living it now, with every detail, every joy, every pain, every thought, every sigh, will repeat itself infinitely, without any change or deviation.

In essence, "Nietzsche: The Eternal Recurrence" is a powerful philosophical hammer designed to shatter complacency and conventional thinking, forcing individuals to confront the deepest questions about their lives and whether they are truly living in a way they would wish to live forever.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:18:54 PM No.24490883
You're out of your depth nigger
You're out of your depth nigger
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>>24490848 (OP)
>AI slop post
I mean, yeah, but it's not a "primarily a thought experiment" but an ontological claim with deep relation to the Will to Power. Heidegger deals with this exact topic on his lectures on him. One cannot understand Nietzsche if one does not engage him on the field of the ontological.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:26:19 PM No.24490901
>>24490883
Heidegger argues that the Eternal Recurrence, for Nietzsche, is the ultimate expression of the Will to Power. If everything recurs, then the very essence of existence is this cyclical, self-overcoming force that constantly reasserts itself.

Overman (Übermensch): The Overman is the one who can fully embrace the Eternal Recurrence, suggesting a transformation of being that aligns with this ontological understanding.
Anonymouṡ
6/23/2025, 11:42:31 PM No.24490957
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>>24490848 (OP)

Picture a tall, dark figure, surrounded by cornfields . . .

NO, YOU CAN’T RIDE A CAT. WHO EVER HEARD OF THE DEATH OF RATS RIDING A CAT? THE DEATH OF RATS WOULD RIDE SOME KIND OF DOG.

Picture more fields, a great horizon-spanning network of fields, rolling in gentle waves . . .

DON’T ASK ME I DON’T KNOW. SOME KIND OF TERRIER, MAYBE.

. . . fields of corn, alive, whispering in the breeze . . .

RIGHT, AND THE DEATH OF FLEAS CAN RIDE IT TOO. THAT WAY YOU KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.

. . . . awaiting the clockwork of the seasons.

METAPHORICALLY.


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And at the end of all stories Azrael, who knew the secret, thought: I REMEMBER WHEN ALL THIS WILL BE AGAIN.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:09:54 AM No.24491037
>>24490848 (OP)
Alright op, I'm inclined to say we're not going to be acknowledging the external world. Once that refutation is performed Neetch has no choice but to retreat back to his head. You might like something new though. You already have the thought experiment and can load it whenever you want right? Strauss gamed this one out pretty well, I'll use the word game since Nietzsche already fragged his own truth claims. Strauss thought that the eternal recurrence experiment was something that Nietzscheans could use to extensively brute force themselves into different 'types' of Nietzscheans. Hegel might give them grief on nihilism being an unsustainable paradox so the Nietzschean is forced to game nothing into a focus of sorts. For the Nietzscheans who brute force themselves the most extensively through just trial and error he thought this produced a flattening effect between savage and noble mind which was something that was documented later by the French. This is arguably the worst Nietzsche to deal with, it's the epitome of Nietzsche's response to Descartes, instinct has been honed to such a remarkable degree that Neetch appears to be a bona fide 'noble' even if the person has no veritable claim to any such thing.

He also thought that continued application inside the head of Nietzsche would produce someone with the mind of a 'soldier'. Perfect and precise demonstration in stoic and sceptic but tuned to sensory usage, otherwise they wouldn't know when to use either, but the person may never join a military of any nationality, they simply acquired this 'similarity' through trial and error.

He conjectured that some Nietzscheans would game themselves into purely aesthetic territory and pursue art.

He thought that some would be unable to determine when the heuristic was working and when it wasn't and as a result they basically just reject whatever civilized elements are a part of them and try to reject rationality or perhaps more fittingly ignore their own as well as what are perceived to be external sources of it.

If the Neetch has an aptitude for it then continued gaming will produce a mind that is just scientific at the expense of morality. Strauss conjectured this Neetch always turns highly cynical.

A Neetch might reject science and embrace morality, this one only seeks ends and basically stops caring about means.

Interestingly enough, he thought that if left to the Neetch's own devices long enough, the Neetch simply becomes the godfather of nihilism and paradoxically enough ceases to be a nihilist.

Give it a try. There's no fastest possible route on this one. It's just trial and error.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 12:59:08 AM No.24491139
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>>24490848 (OP)
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 2:19:01 AM No.24491304
>>24490848 (OP)
Accurately states that it's "not simply a cosmological claim," which is a common misconception. This immediately steers the interpretation towards its deeper philosophical implications.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 6:25:45 AM No.24491788
>>24490848 (OP)
When I was 20 I thought this was the most thought provoking thing ever but now I really wouldn’t care if I had to relive my entire life and don’t the idea has much substance
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 3:53:07 PM No.24492500
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>>24490848 (OP)
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:01:47 AM No.24494222
>>24491788
Space-time is itself entirely a nebulous concept so repeating something on end infinity times is unlucky. That would imply the eternal soul lives within finite time-space. Think about it.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 4:06:34 AM No.24494225
Faggot OP should ask ChatGPT what Nietzsche, Plato, Aristotle, and Jesus would think of relying on AI for answers