Does belief in God provide a stronger incentive for moral behavior (e.g., fear of divine punishment, hope for divine reward, desire to please God)?

>>24494668 (OP)
Many religious traditions offer what are perceived as objective, unchanging moral standards given by a divine being. This can provide a clear framework for right and wrong, reducing moral ambiguity and potentially leading to more consistent moral behavior.

>>24494668 (OP)
See the rules >>24337195

>Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ *should be based around specific philosophical works* to which posters can refer.

>>24494687
Fuck off wannabe jannie nigger

>>24494687
christcucks will just spam these types of low effort questions as a form of soft proselytizing, should ban them

>>24494712
Christians and feminists are cut from the same cloth — both act like self-appointed moral police invading spaces where people just want to be free and unfiltered. Christians roll into chaotic, raw communities preaching about sin and salvation like they’re some divine social workers, sucking all the life and fun out of the place with their guilt trips and virtue flexing. Feminists do the same in male spaces, turning every joke, every bit of rough banter into a harassment tribunal. Neither gives a shit about actual freedom or diversity of thought—they just want to leash everyone to their fragile egos and controlling narratives.

Both groups thrive on policing behavior, sanctimoniously declaring who’s “good” or “bad” based on their rigid, hypocritical standards. They show up to enforce obedience disguised as “care,” but really it’s about crushing anything that doesn’t conform to their version of order. It’s the same energy: power-hungry, self-righteous, and desperate to kill anything that feels alive or chaotic. Christians and feminists aren’t here to build communities—they’re here to dismantle them and replace them with sterile, suffocating echo chambers that revolve entirely around their fragile need to feel in control.

>>24494716
Didn't read. Didn't ask. Don't care. Keep seething though janny nigger

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>>24494687
spbp
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>>24494687
I don't care

>>24494716
Because leftism is a modern form of (((Christianity))) for atheists/materialists. Feminism, communism, liberalism, wokeism, It's all the same old kike bullshit in new bottles.

>>24494769
Wrong

>>24494769
Correct

>>24494668 (OP)
It provides a strong incentive to do what God wants you to do. So if God wanted you to torture babies for fun, you would have a strong incentive to do it if God said he would torture you for eternity if you didn't. You can after the fact label the rules God enforces "morality" if you want.

>moral behavior
kek'd
Morality is determined entirely by the dominant culture at any given time, and as we can see Christian culture has been used to justify some pretty horrific shit historically.
Christianity itself isn't necessarily to blame, this happens to every religion and it too falls completely victim to it, but part of the issue is that morality is a meme.

>>24494668 (OP)

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>>24494668 (OP)
well it provides an actual basis for a belief that there are such things as right and wrong.

>>24495444
No, it does not. See the Euthyphro dilemma.

>>24495476
Wrong

>>24495482
Wrong.

>>24495552
Is something good because God wills it, or does God will it because it is good?

Religion is always a fast track into perverse immorality and societal decay that are impossible to achieve for atheists.

>>24494687
Based. OP is and always will be a faggot.

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>>24494668 (OP)
I don't believe so, because as we have seen repeatedly, religious people are still prone to horrendous immoral acts and many will use mental gymnastics to convince themselves what they are doing is not immoral.

stop replying to chatgp JEET threads

>>24494668 (OP)
>glances briefly at European history since the reign of Constantine
Um, no.

>>24494716
I think you're overlooking the enormous amount of feminist activity that is really just a dispassionate, descriptive analysis of culture as is that doesn't lean into the prescribing of behavioral norms. Plenty of feminist work is simply a commentary that women engage with certain things, say social media, in a gendered way.
>Feminists do the same in male spaces, turning every joke, every bit of rough banter into a harassment tribunal
Often times those jokes mean more to the person being joked about than to the person making them. No doubt you've had experiences in life that you wouldn't wish to be the subject of humor, even if that humor was well intentioned. For feminists, this often includes sexual violence which women tend to suffer from more than men. It's also natural to speculate about how a culture which approves of "jokes" about sexual violence might then structure a society in a particular way.

I would also like to point out that plenty of right-leaning men invade "women's spaces" (kind of a problematic term but I'm mirroring your language here) to then dredge up various examples of behavior they find unacceptable. For example, the perennial threads here about booktok or women's erotica. The internet sensation with the "ick" meme.

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>>24496560
How long are you going to post your fap material on /lit/?

>>24496566
forever, I'm getting rewarded by money and women? what about you jerk

>>24496569
In English, please.

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>>24494714
It’s just the one guy

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>>24494668 (OP)
apparently not
Most people who believe in God range from proud sinners to extreme evil doers.

Jesus Christ was very clear about those who causes the little ones to stumble and Christians decided not to heed his words.

Child abuse could've ended 2000 years ago.

Universally Preferable Behaviour will be the future of moral universals through peaceful parenting.

>>24494668 (OP)
Don't know about that but it makes each masturbation session much more arousing knowing that someone is watching...

>>24494716
Fucking THIS. We degenerates are at least HONEST about the way we are and don't larp as something better than monkeys who learned to use language to increase the life of their thoughts. They think guild-tripping works on US because it worked on their weak brains. They just don't know the depth of or degeneracy and enjoyment of chaos.

>>24494668 (OP)
maybe

>>24494668 (OP)
>Does belief in God provide a stronger incentive for moral behavior
It gives me a stronger sense of criticism towards god and realization that humanity or life itself shouldnt be exist in a first place

>>24494687
>discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ *should be based around specific philosophical works* to which posters can refer.
OP was clearly referring to the bible and other theological works of philosophy, so he didn't break your little rule, if anything you possibly broke global rule 7 by falsely misclassifying the rules.

>>24495592
If it is good because God wills it, it is arbitrary. If God wills it because it is good, goodness is independent of God. So under these possibilities either God is an arbitrary basis for morality or goodness has nothing to do with God.

>>24494668 (OP)
Maybe we should ask the guys sucking bloody baby penises if their belief in god is what made them them so moral that they are compelled to constantly mutilate and consume all the infant penis blood that nobody else was bothering to consume.

>>24497059
Jesus's standard of child care as laid out by the torah which he never tried to refute is to mutilate children within a few days of birth and beat the shit out of and/or honor murder children who don't obey their parent's rules, so I won't trust his opinion on what it means to make a child stumble.

>>24496521
>this often includes sexual violence which women tend to suffer from more than men.
Not true at all, they just whine about it more often, but what happens to men in jail alone is more sexual violence than anything you women collectively experience.

The thing that I really wish we talked about more frankly in Christianity is: is it true, or not?

Is God real, or isn't he?

Did Jesus Christ rise from the dead, or not?

If it's REAL, than what the fuck can you do, but follow? But obey? But bow your head, and praise God?

This is the hinge of it all but I see it expressed so little. This is the reverse side of Nietzsche, by the way. Nietzsche is correct in pointing out that if Christianity is fake then all our morality and all our practices in a Christian world are bullshit. But what if it's not fake? What if it's real?

What if Jesus actually did rise from the dead?

>>24494668 (OP)
The resurrection is considered "the central mystery of the Christian faith." Its historical reality would solidify Christianity's foundation, proving that God accepted Jesus' sacrifice for sin and offering hope of eternal life to believers

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>>24494668 (OP)
>Does belief in God provide a stronger incentive for moral behavior
For those who lack morality it does, just like feat of going to prison or other punishements does.