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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:12:27 AM No.24496531
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Proof positive that worldbuilding consultants should be a thing in scifi/fantasy writing

The type of meta-autistic who can world build is almost never good at characters and intrapersonal narratives (maybe once in a decade we get someone who can do both -if that) or the nuts and bolts of writing a compelling human story.

There are hundreds of examples of "well the story and characters are dull but the world is super interesting." and "loved the story itself, but the setting is a bit cliche".

We only really need a handful of the sort of spergs that can mine the annals of Kazak history, the depths of Indonesian animist religion, and pits of14th century Croatian architecture to build out a compelling original frame for a story to take place in.

(In this case it was a game, but its the same sort of thing.)
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:16:37 AM No.24496544
>>24496531 (OP)
The only thing GRRM did with Elden Ring was name every character something with the letters G, R, or M. Other than that the world and lore was no different than Dark Souls or Demon Souls.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:20:16 AM No.24496556
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>>24496531 (OP)
Fromsoft is good at leaving their worlds vague and implicit enough that the player essentially 'yes ands' themselves into it if they're a nerd who enjoys 'lore'. That's it.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:10:05 AM No.24496671
>>24496531 (OP)
The worst thing about this shit is how similar a bunch of character names are
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:05:04 AM No.24496763
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>>24496531 (OP)
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:35:56 AM No.24496802
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>>24496531 (OP)
GRRM thinks Elden Ring is a dark souls sequel bro, they only wanted his name, his input was purely superficial
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:37:25 AM No.24496804
>>24496544
The dung eater, and incest too.
>>24496802
kek (@ image)
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:04:49 AM No.24496839
>>24496802
He came up with the royal family tree. He did a good fucking job.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:12:02 AM No.24496850
>>24496802
>he thinks it isn't
filtered
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:22:25 AM No.24497275
>>24496802
He doesn't game, and only recently stopped thinking video games are for losers (which is funny because GRRM is THE proto-nerd). His assistants got him hip to modern games and the story telling in them, which is how we ended up with him writing Elden Ring.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:00:37 PM No.24497500
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>>24496544
I get that there is a lot of copium anon
But in the end the Fallen Leaves do tell a story. And its a structure that FROM can't make, which makes it very obvious when its bolted on again as the 2nd layer to make it a adaption
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:41:16 PM No.24497551
>>24496531 (OP)
Even World of Warcraft has better worldbuilding than Elden Slop.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:47:11 PM No.24497561
>>24497275
Probably got really confused why war games didn't have rape in them
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:44:31 PM No.24497651
>>24496544
>The only thing GRRM did with Elden Ring was name every character something with the letters G, R, or M
Seriously. It's a bit ridiculous.
>Godfrey
>Godwyn
>Godefroy
>Gideon
>Malenia
>Melina
>Marika
>Miquella
>Etc.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:22:26 AM No.24498919
>>24496531 (OP)
>Worldbuilding consultants should be a thing
>They can't tell good stories
If they can't tell good stories they shouldn't be involved in the writing process.

Fucking goober ass take. The best and most successful stories do minimal worldbuilding. A setting by itself isn't a story, it's just empty tropes that serve no purpose. You don't even need them for games, Dwarf Fortress fucking randomly generates all its worldbuilding, what matters is the story that comes out.

GRRM doesn't need any more excuses to not finish his fucking series, nobody needs to invent more reasons for him to procrastinate.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:56:38 AM No.24499014
>>24497651
>Seriously. It's a bit ridiculous.
>Æthelstan
>Æthelbald
>Æthelberht
>Æthelred
>Æthelred II
>Æthelwulf
>Æthelswith
>Æthelflæd
>Æthelthryth
>Ælfthryth
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:35:43 AM No.24499435
Elden Ring's world is a disgustingly feminist one. That is all I have to say.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 6:03:58 AM No.24499606
>>24499435
but u kill many women in game