>>24501612 (OP)
Evil ideology my mom believes in

>>24501620
Well how come women and young people lean toward leftist politics while men lean toward right-wing politics? Just biology?

>>24501626
They've been brainwashed by their mothers.

>>24501626
Judeo anglo bankers want to divide regular sexers to collapse world population for the benefit of foxes and raccoons.

>>24501628
So women and young people are leftists because they’re brainwashed?

>>24501633
Did I stutter?

>>24501612 (OP)
Double Standards: The Ideology

>>24501612 (OP)
>What does feminism mean to you?
Subverting the working class

>>24501633
>>24501626
>how come women and young people lean toward leftist politics while men lean toward right-wing politics? Just biology?
Women and young people are naturally submissive, they conform to what they think the herd thinks, which through propaganda is leftism

>>24501652
>>24501626
Or slight correction: Not the "herd," but authority in a societal context, which ends up being government and media.

>>24501655
And in ancient times would be the local leader(s) of the tribe

>>24501652
They don’t seem submissive to me. Is that all that makes them leftists?

>>24501659
NTA. Libertarianism is seen as a right-leaning ideology and the left is associated with the "nanny state" for a reason. Since Trump entered politics all leftwing soundbites have been about fear (e.g. acting like the J6 riot was a highly organized insurrection that could have overthrown the Republic, lol) and the left frequently projects that onto the right.

>>24501679
Interesting take, but I’m still a feminist.

>>24501690
So am I in the sense I don't hate women but the fact is the birthrate crisis was caused by forcing women into the workforce and the gender pay gap is a lie.

>>24501612 (OP)
All authority and no responsibility

>>24501612 (OP)
1st wave: equal treatment in law
2nd wave: theorized the male tendency to rape could be stopped by destroying propaganda mills but liberals won the pornography war so males can wank themselves into insanity over increasingly degenerate content
3rd wave: total feminist death

>>24501695
A simple Google search (AI) disagrees:

“Yes, there is a gender pay gap. Women in the United States are typically paid less than men for the same work, even when factors like education, experience, and job title are considered. This gap has narrowed over time, but it still persists, and progress in closing it has stalled in recent years, according to the Pew Research Center.”

>>24501612 (OP)
Grass routes fem thing picked up by The Globohomo who previously feared Chang and sought to compete with his raw numbers by enlisting all of society, in a similar vein to how the civil rights were only passed to counter the USSR abroad.

Then AI showed up and revealed having a bunch of superfluous college educated "workers" was more of a weakness than a strength, and DEI was immediately abandoned and will continue to be phased out in the coming years.

>>24501706
Bad bait

>>24501659
"Leftist" is an umbrella term. Most white women in the in the U.S. are conservative.

By "leftist" you mean tranny freaks, people on welfare, immigrants, college professors, and zoomers?

>>24501706
>A simple Google search (AI) disagrees
AI isn't infallible, anon. The gender pay gap is an lie that is notoriously exaggerated for political purposes. The reason women make less is that they work fewer hours and tend to prioritize things other than career growth. It's no different than sperging about women not having the right to vote when the reality is 99% of men were disenfranchised.

Also, the reason the birthrate crisis exists is because women have been forced into the workforce and there's also the fact people have lower satisfaction of life than when they were supposedly less free. Feminism sells a false product and uses resentment to get people to glomb onto its ideology.

>>24501717
College professors might be a force of nature, are you sure you want to set yourself up against them?

>>24501734
>College professors might be a force of nature
Lol.

>>24501755
Not my prerogative, could be yours.

>>24501734
Thanks for the laugh, masterbaiter

>>24501761
Education is the backbone of democracy.

Serious question: are women only stupid for loving stupid men?

There's bad leftist feminism (ie pro sex work)and then good feminism

>>24501612 (OP)
Movement about women's rights. May ocasionally encroach on my life in some retarded way. Beside that I'm generally indifferent.
Be a feminist if you want, Women wouldn't be any less insufferable without it. I'd be less averse to the idea of marriage I guess.

>>24501797
So submissive women are valid and unsubmissive women are sex workers?

>>24501812
Political movements are delimited by their social motivations. You really think feminism ends with political unrest and retaliation?

>>24501612 (OP)
this book was cia propaganda. the author was affiliated with the cia.

>>24501849
Google AI says:

“Beauvoir's political stance: Beauvoir and Sartre were part of the leftist intellectual scene in Paris, known for being critical of both capitalism and the Soviet Union's actions. Their politically non-aligned approach through their journal Les Temps Modernes aimed for a neutral stance in the Cold War context, which aligns with the fact that they were not writing for CIA-backed publications.”

>>24501865
Fuck you and fuck AI. I can't even go to the grocery store anymore without being attacked by the Terminator because I didn't scan my frozen nuggies under the camera.

>>24501896
I didn’t program AI. Sell your soul and see if it improves your results.

>>24501842
>You really think feminism ends with political unrest and retaliation?
No. I don't quite think about feminism much, really. If I have to think about the topic, Women are a much more accurate topic to ponder about. Where do you think feminism ends?

>>24501626
A lot of it is just "this side dislikes me, I should dislike them", which is at its core rational. White dudes rarely vote left anymore because the left has spent the past decade demonizing White males and limiting their ability to make a living through diversity hiring.
Women and minorities hear you lads chat about enslaving them or beating them and know not to vote for the person you support

>>24501865
>Google AI says:

>>24502002
Are you saying AI is wrong? It’s happened for me before.

>>24501620
Same, and my sister too. It just means female supremacy and the sexual oppression of men. Feminism is why incels exist. The idea that only one orgasm is needed for reproduction and its the mans orgasm frightens women on a psychological level so they have to create laws and join movements like metoo to criminalize the male orgasm

>>24501954
I rest my case

>>24502163
NTA, but Google AI is very often wrong, especially with complicated matters and authorities. It will definitively provide an answer based on sources that don't actually support the answer Google AI provided.
I'm speaking generally, and not about the Beauvoir thing, which I have no opinion of or even the will to check it.

a deeply unsuccessful movement considering we are about 5 waves deep into it and women are still extremely unhappy, extremely mentally ill, and still demanding more things 24/7

im upper middle class and pissed af

>>24501612 (OP)
I find feminism very fascinating.

>What does feminism mean to you?
I've seen some debates in which self-described feminists participated and they defined it as a movement towards acquiring rights for women and giving them equal power and status in society to men. But I think this is actually somewhat anachronistic.

There is certainly this emancipatory trend to feminism, but I think there's another trend of developing woman's self-identification which goes undermentioned. Feminism doesn't just say that women are oppressed and that's bad, it also often looks at the particular ways in which women navigate various aspects of society. Some of these might not be a direct manifestation of oppression but are just a different mode of being which deserves examination. A lot of articles in feminist journals go down this route. For example women online typically have a different set of experiences than men online. There are some studies about the degree to which social media can hamper a woman's self-image that doesn't seem to be quite there with men.
So in a sense, feminism is like the study of woman and the surrounding gender environment.

>>24501612 (OP)
>Second sex
There's more?

>>24501865
They were Cold war liberals generally speaking, A direct inversion of the Ben Franklin maxim "Those who trade liberty for safety deserve neither liberty or safety", just switch around safety and liberty in the first part. I don't actually care if they were anti-CIA. Both were ivory tower academics hellbent on being the " exceptional human" in the face iof adversity while ignoring the subjective dimensions of their consequences, which Camus rightfully called out, despite him being somewhat part of the problem. French thought was simply reacting to German systemic autism and Anglo empirical analysis, which is why Nietzsche found a spiritual home in minds of the French.

>>24502179
The ourborous eats itself

>>24501612 (OP)
I don't know. I was born after it already existed so I don't know what the actual original struggle was if there even was one. I know that as soon as something is labeled, it takes on a new life that is far from the original purpose and that's my suspicion with feminism. A lot of feminists I see seem to think about the feminist issues on a plane of abstraction that has nothing to do with their current reality or life, which is highly privileged and where they get to do basically anything they want.

>>24502343
Ironically enough, all men had to do to destroy women was give them control over their own lives

Comodified, utilitarianized intimacy and human relationships
Sexist hostility