Thread 24504444

I've always wanted to be a creative ever since I was young. I've day dreamed about being one and tried working my ass off trying to write ever since I was around 12. My parents tried pushing me towards it for school assignments. I also wanted to draw but never got into it seriously.

I've been wanting to write again for nearly 2 years now and have barely made any progress towards that goal. I've only done one little drabble like 2 years ago and haven't done any exercises since then. I've been trying to get myself to write, but all of it looks too complicated and exhausting for me. I've tried multiple different strategies, but they never seem to work. I've tried forcing myself to write, but can only make myself write a couple of sentences for barely 30 seconds before stopping and looking at my phone again.

I've never been able to complete a single multichapter story in my entire life and actually coming up with stories isn't much better. I can't think anything through and everything about trying to make an entire story looks too hard for me. I want to be a creative really badly, but nothing I've done seems to have amounted to much of anything. I want to become one so badly, and I want to stop wasting my life doing nothing.

>>24504444 (OP)
>a creative
Why the corporate lingo OP? Just say you want to be a writer/artist

Set some time aside for writing or drawing, making sure that there’s nothing digital around to interrupt the flow state. Don’t say “I have the whole day to work” because you won’t do anything with unlimited time; with limited time, however, you’ll be more likely to actually work. Start small - 40 mins to an hour, before gradually increasing that to a few hours. Also look into the pomodoro technique.

>>24504444 (OP)
Read a lot
Set timers, starting out small and gradually increasing, and only allow yourself a phone break after the timer goes off

>>24504444 (OP)
you don't want to be an artist you just want attention, which is why you spam these posts instead of writing.

>>24504585
>>24504544
>>24504500
How do I make myself? My medicine makes me really unmotivated.

Try having sex

ive been considering selling my pc and just getting a laptop to create some kind of friction before i can access the internet

>>24504500
>>24504544
How do I make myself? I've been trying to get into it again with roleplaying, but even then, I can't make myself get into the flow state like I used to. I used to be able to get into it really easily, especcially when I was in school still, but nowadays, I can't make myself. I don't know what to do. I work a job now too. I don't know if it's my medicine making me unmotivated or not, but I'm tampering them down a little.

>>24504544
I also have a really hard time focusing on reading. I can't make myself read anything that's more than a paragraph long.

>How do I become a creative?
suffer

>>24504444 (OP)
You want to be but you are not willing to put in the time and effort, you want to win the lottery. Hence your never finishing anything but short simple works, long breaks from writing, asking "how do I make myself," etc etc etc etc etc... Either take up writing in earnest or drop the game and move on.

>>24504638
This is what it's like for everything I try doing.

>>24504644
so give up on everything

>>24504638
How do I make myself how do I make myself do it? This is what it's like for literally everything that I've ever tried doing.

>>24504650
And do nothing?

>>24504657
you're already doing nothing

>>24504660
Okay so how do I make myself?

>>24504667
How do I make myself do something?

>>24504660
Okay so how do I make myself do something?

>>24504638
How do I make myself?

I have the same problem except I'm not on meds. Outside of wageslaving I just idle my time endlessly

>>24504444 (OP)
Is this howie?
I think it is

>>24504500
How do I make myself?

>>24504585
Because I'm too overwhelmed and I can't write is the problem.

>>24504675
you said you can't

>>24504842
Yeah so how do I make myself?

>>24504444 (OP)
14 metres of human cock, 150 mm a time.

>>24504885
Can you give an actual response instead of trolling?

>>24504857
you said you cant make yourself
what do you think can not means

>>24504925
So I'm asking how do I make myself do it.

I am more or less the same as you, have you ever tried to find a study buddy ?

>>24504930
you cant. you said so

Write more
The answer to every possible question you have
Write more

>>24504954
I don't know what you mean by study buddy.
>>24504969
How do I make myself write?

>>24505034
A study buddy is someone with whom you work in collaboration to create accountability and keep each other motivated. Each group of study buddies can establish personal strategies suited to their needs and goals.
If you are interested in trying a partnership, I can give you my Discord ID and see if we can make something work together.

>>24505088
You can drop it here and I'll see about it.

>>24505112
Username: x253.

>>24505034
write more

it sounds to me like you couldn't care less about writing but like daydreaming about being a writer. either focus on something you have more energy for, or pull up your sleeves and focus. in the end, that's what it comes down to.
writing is not complicated at all, dump all of your preconceived notions.
1. know what you are going to write
2. sketch a bulletpoint plan
3. write it out
that's all, that's the most basic version. do this for a while to get in the habit of it. then, start thinking about what makes good sentences. look at good and bad writing, and think about what makes each sentence good or bad. apply the logic to your writing, and make good sentence. then move onto good paragraphs, good pages, good chapters, good story arcs, good stories.
experiment with different styles, techniques, methods.
you can get 90% of the way on plain intuition, at worst for the remaining 10% you should see what other people say are the important elements of writing, and then spend time thinking about what these elements should ideally be like.
none of this will happen if you don't have the motivation and space to write. this can be a result of either not caring about writing at all (which is common with people who say they want to write), or as a result of having a million other things you prefer doing over writing (such as shitposting on a tibetan basket weaving forum, which is arguably even more common).

>>24505202
>it sounds to me like you couldn't care less about writing but like daydreaming about being a writer
This is what people have said to me about literally every single hobby I've ever tried doing.

My problem is that I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know how to plan a story about properly, and my anxiety and OCD makes me want to get everything perfect on the first try. This is why I barely write because I have to be in the absolute perfect mood with the perfect amount of focus to do it. This is why I only RP now. I don't know how to fix this. I don't have motivation to do ANYTHING is the problem.

>>24505202
>it sounds to me like you couldn't care less about writing but like daydreaming about being a writer
This is what people have said to me about literally every single hobby I've ever tried doing.

My problem is that I don't know what I'm doing. I don't know how to plan a story about properly, and my anxiety and OCD makes me want to get everything perfect on the first try. This is why I barely write because I have to be in the absolute perfect mood with the perfect amount of focus to do it. This is why I only RP now. I don't know how to fix this. I don't know what I'm doing is the problem. I can't come up with good ideas, I can't come up with any characters, or whatever the fuck. I don't know what I'm doing.

>>24505202
To give context, I've been writing and RPing for 12 years now since I've been about 12 or 13.

>>24505213
yeah i kind of get that too, a traumatic upbringing can introduce a kind of avoidant/perfectionist attitude, where everything has to be perfect in order to avoid being punished for mistakes, but obviously it's exhausting to make perfect things so it always get deferred "for later". best you can do is go to a psychologist for that and maybe get some anti-anxiety medication. just relax and calm down generally.
keep in mind also that RP has a lot of other incentives as well besides being easier and less stressful. RPing with people means that you only need to do a little bit at a time, is very character focused, and also there are people presumably looking forward to everything you write, at every point of the process. this is completely not the case for novels or even generally for web serials. the writing process is long, exhausting, and lonely. the social incentive can help cover the hole in motivation that can be harder to cross with novel writing. in my case, i don't have your problem of not knowing what to do. i have written incredibly detailed notes, outlines and storyboards for some of my novel ideas, going into tens of thousands of words. i have one story that is "finished" as a bulletpoint plan, in great detail, from the first scene to the last. but i have not written it because writing it feels like it would be exhausting, unfun, and a chore. meanwhile, when i was roleplaying, i wrote millions upon millions of words and i did not have this motivation problem, because other people were excited for me to deliver small chunks of writing at regular intervals.
currently, i have not written in years. i keep coming up with stories, but i never have interest in actually writing them. certainly not, compared to browsing the news or this website. i allow some of my ideas to drift together and merge and form a richer and broader setting, and maybe one day if that story is complete and becomes important to me, i could write it. but if i have to be honest with myself, i don't think i will end up writing a story because of the reasons i gave earlier.
i don't know how they measure up to the reasons in your situation. but whatever your situation is, if you are determined to write, you should either alter the conditions, or else push through them forcefully. if anxiety stops you from writing, please remember that writing is a safe experience, not physically challenging to do, and can be iteratively improved on. if you were to close all of your programs right now, open word, and set out to write 3000 words, not a force in the universe could stop you (except a power outage, sudden ballistic missile strike, or an act of god, but hopefully these won't intervene).

>>24505237
I'm already on anti anxiety medication like Paroextine and I'm wondering if that's what's been making me unmotivated to do things.

>>24505914
yeah probably

>>24505237
How do I make myself?

>how do i pet the dog
>i want to but i just cant
>other people get to pet dogs all the time this is so unfair

>>24506417
Yeah, so how do I make myself do anything?

>>24506444
How did you make yourself type this post?

>>24506462
I don't know. It's a habit.

>>24505914
no idea
>>24506321
take out pen and paper and write down the factors we mentioned and then add your personal life circumstances and try to figure it out. you are much more qualified than me to come up with a fix for your own life.

>>24504444 (OP)
is there a KYS board on this hellsite I just haven't l seen yet? Go there.

Creativity is something you cannot help, you cannot stop doing, outsider art and self taught authors who are the sons of glovemakers never ask anything. They just do because it's in the blood.

>>24504644
>>24504652
>>24504682
DFW wrote a 1100 page novel about people like you.

>>24506979
>KYS board
>>>/lit/

>>24506985
What's that novel?

>>24506979
Can you give me actual advice? I have a ton of ideas but I can never get any of them down because the moment I start, I just lose interest or just get distracted.

>>24506979
I have a ton of ideas but I can never get any of them down because the moment I start, I give up, lose my dopamine rush and interest very fast. This is all thanks to my ADHD.

>>24506612
I'm constantly on this website and I can't stop looking at my phone. Even when I'm not on either, I end up just staring at a wall or a ceiling for minutes at a time.

>>24504500
My other problem is that I need something digital to write with. I can't use anything else. My hand writing is shit and my hands get too tired.

>>24507010
Are you that Anon that everyone tried to help multiple times but all you can do is work, stare at your phone and goon? and made every excuse possible why you couldn't take any actual advice?

the consistency you make this thread and repeat the same lines over and over with is pathetic whether or not you're trolling anon

>>24507587
Okay, so how do I make myself focus on writing instead?

>>24507611

The best thing that could ever happen to you anon is if you kill somebody will driving and get 15 years in prison. You have no willpower and no inclination to ever take advice. The best solution is if you are forced and Sodomized by other men, only then might you gain inspiration.

>>24504444 (OP)
These people will beat around the bush, but the truth is you need to develop a heroin habit. Great musicians, writers, all got started off the dope. You can do this. I believe in you.

Bump

>>24508505
fuck you, stupid fucking worthless howie. fack off, go spam /adv/ with your useless shit

>>24508511
How about give advice?

>>24508692

Is there a copy pasta people can use when he asks for advice? the problem is, you never take any good faith advice that's ever been given to you.

If you can't see that pattern you have no business writing as you have no insight.

>>24508724
I can't make myself do anything is the problem. Even taking advice.

>>24504444 (OP)
No one knows how to do anything you little faggot. The only thing I can tell you how to do is get fucked in the ass, by me.

get rid of your computer im serious

>>24509559
i think hiro should open a 4chan mail-in service exclusive to /lit/

- missingno-

i thjnk about the craft that goes into writing

more than that though i myself where i have written 1 or 2 lesser writing but gotten depressed by like the futility of all things or like the absurdity of seeking recognition for it or like the absurdity of not seeking recognition or i have just gotten over the concept writing something new as being depressing or like again futility of all things

>>24509248
so why ask for advice, even simple advice if you can't take it?

if you just love annoying the shit ouf of people maybe that's who you are in life.

>>24507002
Seriously? Infinite Jest.

>>24504619
If you are serious I have a solution but you wont like it.
>stop using internet for a month
That's it. It'll be easy if you change your environments (go to a cottage or something). Take only books with you. No phone. Your brain will rewire itself from the dopamine circus that you've engaged with for years

t. came back from a month long retreat and can now read without issues

>>24505914
>Paroextine
A selective serotonine reuptake inhibitor. SSRI.

Well let me introduce you to the world of post SSRI sexual dysfunction

https://www.pssdnetwork.org/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PSSD/


So how is your schlong ? Mine is getting better after like what 5 years, i can cum, sometimes.

>>24512004
>Paroextine

https://www.reddit.com/r/PSSD/comments/19drxkq/i_have_heard_that_there_are_types_of_pssd_and_the/

>I have heard that there are types of PSSD and the worst type of PSSD is caused by escitalopram & paroxetine?

You're cooked!

>>24512016
>>24512004
This isn't what's happening to me. In fact, I feel hypersexual on my paroextine.

bump

I can tell that you’ve accepted the bullshit narrative that creative people are just sort of naturally creative and talented enough to just create things. That’s not actually how it works. When it comes to writing in particular, whether you’re talking about prose or poetry, the art is in a sense a craft. It can be studied, understood, and demands not a natural inclination so much as it demands effort and attention. Talent can’t be taught, obviously. But it has to be uncovered. It takes work. It’s literally like work. Think of creating as something in-between work and play. If you can work, and you can play, you can create. Furthermore, you have to learn to let yourself be who you are. We can’t approach the world with the sincere religiosity of a medieval poet. That’s just not us. The soil we grew up in different than theirs. So if the way you approach writing is more practical and even cynical kind of ways so be it. Engineers can make paintings with engineering principles. And people with mature, even materialistic and practical worldviews can write poems. The trick is to push the intellect out of the way and let instinct do its thing.

So if your goal is to write fiction, read a how to write fiction book, and then write 3 short stories. Don’t give up until you’ve finished 3 stories. If your goal is to write poems, read a how to write poetry book, and then write 3 poems. Don’t give up until you’ d written 3 poems. Don’t worry about how good or bad they are. Just do it. This is the process of creating, and getting better is just a process of refining that process. Again, it’s a craft. It exists somewhere between work and fun, and it can be honed, like any craft.

>>24507020
Then you don't have a problem with writing, you have ADHD. You obviously wont get psychiatric help and should simply start smoking meth

>>24504444 (OP)
quads

>>24513729
Yes. I have ADHD. What do I do?

Bump

>>24504444 (OP)
Lots of LSD. Even the greeks enjoyed the occasional ergot tea at the Eleusinian mysteries. Its what all the moderm musicians do for inspiration as well.

>>24516120
I'm looking for answers that aren't trolling.