what are some good philosophers who combine philosophy with fringe science?

also general x/occult/fringe/ufo/magic thread

>>24513098 (OP)
FWJ Schelling

>>24513098 (OP)
literally esoteric kantanon

Dean Radin kinda, though he's primarily a scientist who makes reference to philosophy - mainly idealism.

>>24513098 (OP)
No one who has ever claimed to practice magic turned out to be legit. Every last one of them created elaborate smoke and mirrors around what inevitably turns out to be "mental alchemy" (i.e. feelgood woo-woo) or outright bullshit. The copes are endless - "you're too sinful or unclean to witness my true power," "a closed mind can't understand the truth of magic," "your disbelief makes it impossible for you to see it," etc. Charlatans, all of them, all the way down.
This doesn't mean the supernatural doesn't exist, only that those who claim to be able to harness it are retarded fart huffers. You're better off looking at Christian monasticism and philosophical/theological thinkers for something closer to the supernatural, with the caveat that none of these people actually had magic powers and would say so to your face - all miracles and miraculous workings in Christianity are a gift from God rather than something that can be harnessed by man like a tool. Works like the Ladder of Divine Ascent or the Philokalia go into a little detail about what I mean but they're not really meant for consumption as standalone texts by random people so much as for study under the careful guidance of a spiritual elder.
I think it's possible that evil forces and demons and stuff exist but you don't want to get involved with any of that and studying it is a waste of your time at the very best.

>>24513183
>No one who has ever claimed to practice magic turned out to be legit.
cope

>>24513196
Show me the proof, bro. Otherwise you're just another bullshitter.

Goethe, Spengler, Steiner, Bortoft

>>24513183
I agree with you in a general sense but you have to realize that priests are professional magicians

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>>24513098 (OP)
Mitchell Heisman

>>24513098 (OP)
Mitchell Heisman

>>24513238
You read the whole thing?

>>24513238
also Thomas Moynihan and Nick land

>>24513098 (OP)
Look up Kevin Cann

>>24513240
NO, it got overly repetitive after a while, i am convinced almost none actually read it 100/100, he was a nooby writer despite having a magnifiucent and unparalleled mind, his text needed serious trimming

Philosophy is literally fringe science.

>>24513250
>It is characteristic of Schelling and Hegel (largely as a result of Fichte’s Wissenschaftslehre) that they do not merely regard speculative philosophy as a “Science,” but as the only “Science” worth of the name. Hence “Science” and “philosophy” become synonymous.

>>24513255
>Muh german idealism is science

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>>24513259
This. But unironically.

>>24513243
Why'd he do it bro?

>>24513250
It’s the other way around stupid. Science is just an applied method of philosophy.

>>24513262
I have a nice suggestion for you then, Kant’s On the Common Saying

>>24513265
>what does identity mean?

>>24513265
>stupid
Do you want me to say mean things to you? No? Ok then don't say mean things to me ok.

>>24513238
I don't like him, personally. self-hating Anglo.

>>24513260
I have some John Keel stuff. Jacques Vallee too.

are there any good catastrophists that exist out there, like advancing on Georges Cuvier's natural history?