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Anonymous No.24513098 [Report] >>24513115 >>24513119 >>24513183 >>24513235 >>24513238 >>24513242 >>24513260
what are some good philosophers who combine philosophy with fringe science?

also general x/occult/fringe/ufo/magic thread
Anonymous No.24513115 [Report]
>>24513098 (OP)
FWJ Schelling
Anonymous No.24513119 [Report]
>>24513098 (OP)
literally esoteric kantanon
Anonymous No.24513123 [Report]
Dean Radin kinda, though he's primarily a scientist who makes reference to philosophy - mainly idealism.
Anonymous No.24513183 [Report] >>24513196 >>24513228
>>24513098 (OP)
No one who has ever claimed to practice magic turned out to be legit. Every last one of them created elaborate smoke and mirrors around what inevitably turns out to be "mental alchemy" (i.e. feelgood woo-woo) or outright bullshit. The copes are endless - "you're too sinful or unclean to witness my true power," "a closed mind can't understand the truth of magic," "your disbelief makes it impossible for you to see it," etc. Charlatans, all of them, all the way down.
This doesn't mean the supernatural doesn't exist, only that those who claim to be able to harness it are retarded fart huffers. You're better off looking at Christian monasticism and philosophical/theological thinkers for something closer to the supernatural, with the caveat that none of these people actually had magic powers and would say so to your face - all miracles and miraculous workings in Christianity are a gift from God rather than something that can be harnessed by man like a tool. Works like the Ladder of Divine Ascent or the Philokalia go into a little detail about what I mean but they're not really meant for consumption as standalone texts by random people so much as for study under the careful guidance of a spiritual elder.
I think it's possible that evil forces and demons and stuff exist but you don't want to get involved with any of that and studying it is a waste of your time at the very best.
Anonymous No.24513196 [Report] >>24513203
>>24513183
>No one who has ever claimed to practice magic turned out to be legit.
cope
Anonymous No.24513203 [Report]
>>24513196
Show me the proof, bro. Otherwise you're just another bullshitter.
Anonymous No.24513226 [Report]
Goethe, Spengler, Steiner, Bortoft
Anonymous No.24513228 [Report] >>24513230
>>24513183
I agree with you in a general sense but you have to realize that priests are professional magicians
Anonymous No.24513230 [Report]
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Anonymous No.24513235 [Report]
>>24513098 (OP)
Mitchell Heisman
Anonymous No.24513238 [Report] >>24513240 >>24513241 >>24514106
>>24513098 (OP)
Mitchell Heisman
Anonymous No.24513240 [Report] >>24513243
>>24513238
You read the whole thing?
Anonymous No.24513241 [Report]
>>24513238
also Thomas Moynihan and Nick land
Anonymous No.24513242 [Report]
>>24513098 (OP)
Look up Kevin Cann
Anonymous No.24513243 [Report] >>24513264
>>24513240
NO, it got overly repetitive after a while, i am convinced almost none actually read it 100/100, he was a nooby writer despite having a magnifiucent and unparalleled mind, his text needed serious trimming
Anonymous No.24513250 [Report] >>24513255 >>24513265
Philosophy is literally fringe science.
Anonymous No.24513255 [Report] >>24513259
>>24513250
>It is characteristic of Schelling and Hegel (largely as a result of Fichte’s Wissenschaftslehre) that they do not merely regard speculative philosophy as a “Science,” but as the only “Science” worth of the name. Hence “Science” and “philosophy” become synonymous.
Anonymous No.24513259 [Report] >>24513262
>>24513255
>Muh german idealism is science
Anonymous No.24513260 [Report] >>24514114
>>24513098 (OP)
Anonymous No.24513262 [Report] >>24513267
>>24513259
This. But unironically.
Anonymous No.24513264 [Report]
>>24513243
Why'd he do it bro?
Anonymous No.24513265 [Report] >>24513273 >>24513274
>>24513250
It’s the other way around stupid. Science is just an applied method of philosophy.
Anonymous No.24513267 [Report]
>>24513262
I have a nice suggestion for you then, Kant’s On the Common Saying
Anonymous No.24513273 [Report]
>>24513265
>what does identity mean?
Anonymous No.24513274 [Report]
>>24513265
>stupid
Do you want me to say mean things to you? No? Ok then don't say mean things to me ok.
Anonymous No.24514106 [Report]
>>24513238
I don't like him, personally. self-hating Anglo.
Anonymous No.24514114 [Report]
>>24513260
I have some John Keel stuff. Jacques Vallee too.

are there any good catastrophists that exist out there, like advancing on Georges Cuvier's natural history?