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7/2/2025, 7:25:56 AM No.24513502
The Black Book of Communism
The Black Book of Communism
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What are some books that completely dismantle and BTFO communism?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:29:31 AM No.24513510
>>24513502 (OP)
Anything by Nietzsche
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:35:25 AM No.24513518
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:40:20 AM No.24513535
>>24513518
>This is a critique of Communism - circa 1957 - but still quite interesting more than 60 years later. Many of the author's comments about how communism would end, are prescient in retrospect. The author was a high-level Yugoslav official in the communist government of Marshall Tito who eventually became disillusioned with the system and became a Social Democrat. He came to view entrenched Communism as little better than one autocrat system substituting for another (such as, in Russia, the Communist leadership substituting for the Czar) since the power of communists was absolute just as in an absolute monarchy. The one-party state meant that parliaments were little more than window-dressing, and the fact that the state owned everything including all factories, meant that strikes were essentially meaningless. The workers paradoxically lost power in the workers' state they created. The most striking thesis is how the idealism of revolutionary Communism invariably ends up delivering the opposite of liberation, because of the unwillingness or inability of the Communist state to change and share some of its vast centralized power with the citizenry. He does say however that the revolutions in E. Europe and Asia were responses to the slow pace of industrialization in those areas - and that perhaps (disorganized/haphazard) capitalism could not have delivered industrialization in E. Europe/Asia as quickly as a planned economy, especially since capitalism, centralized in the West, might not want to promote "competition" in areas outside the West. He says that the price of rapid industrialization under Communism was enormous inefficiency and waste - briefly citing the environmental damage that the communists usually ignored. There is thus the arc of the romantic idealism of revolution - the direct "descendant" of the French Revolution, which promises a class-less society and equality, but after a few short years, that idealism is quenched by grim reality: The communist leadership has become "the new class" as Djilas calls it, which doesn't want to relinquish power and usher in the withering away of the state, or at least share power with the masses. Rather, the leadership becomes a powerful "new class" of bureaucrats that protects its own privileges and perks. The new Communist elite replaces the old bourgeois elite - and inequality in this system may be even worse than under Capitalism as the bureaucrats own everything and thus may be said to own unlimited power over the entire population. Djilas predicted that the system would fall, but when he wrote this book, could not have imagined the way Communism would finally fall in E. Europe - triggered by trade unionists in Poland at first, but hastened by Gorbachev, a communist reformer who managed to reform his own country (USSR) out of existence.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 7:44:44 AM No.24513542
>>24513502 (OP)

Already debunked

https://youtu.be/rIB4e8AfPcM?si=LWKdWHA9IOylwBlB
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:01:19 AM No.24513657
>>24513502 (OP)
Wall Street and the Russian Revolution by Richard B Spence.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:56:30 AM No.24513736
>>24513535
>workers paradoxically lost power in the workers' state they created
oh my god
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:10:14 AM No.24513755
>>24513502 (OP)
Of the two powers that raised a meaningful challenge to the hegemony of their era >communism was the power that owed a strand of its existence to the same forces that created that hegemony (the Jews)
>communism was the power that conceded to the hegemony by helping it beat the heckin' evil and problematic Nazis
>communism was the power that owed everything it managed to achieve to forces outside of its doing, its consideration or its desire and in the aftermath of being defeated in the soviet era, exists today only as what it always was: a set of ideals innately incompatible with vitality, with spiritual accord, with philosophical inquiry and even with the idea of a shared reality in itself
Horseshoe theorists (lmao) will stop at the idea that both are heckin' undemocratic and lost because nothing says consistency like simultaneously valuing freedom over everything and strength over values. There is absolutely no equality in how they lost and why they cannot re-emerge from our current paradigm. Communism is BTFO'd in large part by the fact it ever existed and what it did with its only chance at life.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 4:19:22 PM No.24514357
>>24513502 (OP)
atlas shrugged
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:35:42 PM No.24515094
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>>24513502 (OP)
here is a stack
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 9:49:28 PM No.24515166
>>24513502 (OP)
Go suck off some more billionaire dick, fascist

>hurr-durr I'll post a picture of le black book of 900 gorbillion people who were never born
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:00:40 PM No.24515215
>>24515166
>liking free markets makes you fascist
By that logic John Rawls is a fascist too.

>>24513502 (OP)
Main Currents Of Marxism
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:22:54 PM No.24515484
>>24513502 (OP)
Well, not that one. Muh gorillion/no food arguments are probably the worst.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:28:06 AM No.24515671
>>24513542
>>24515166
>>24515484
Death from communism denial is not merely retarded but extremely boring. At least hall of cost denialists put some humor into it in the middle of autistic rants about forensics.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:44:22 AM No.24515693
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