Hey so this is kinda retarded of me but I prefer reading ancient greek philosophy since it is mainly short text (plus I am greek so I can read the original ancient text). How do you get into reading full on books about philosophy? I never really tried it since I am like why write a book when you can be laconic? Isn't long texts a form of manipulation or self importance? I know I might be stupid so please explain since I want to get into modern philosophy too

>>24522232 (OP)
Well there have been practitioners of the aphorism if that's what you mean

>>24522232 (OP)
Get a textbook, it will save you a lot of time.

>>24522232 (OP)
>Isn't long texts a form of manipulation or self importance?
Abandon Preconception. Adopt genuine interest and curiosity. And then you can read almost any philosophy book.

I dont get the point of this thread since you already have an answer though. Just read the Republic. I had always been into philosophy, but not truly until I read a book myself and realized how thoughtful and developed a philospher's thought is.

If you want general philosophy that covers almost anything without being too esoteric, then read Plato or Aristotle first. If you already have an idea of what specifically youre interested in understanding more, then find a philospher that talks about that. For example. If youre interested in understanding more about Language you can start with Wittgenstein, but honestly Wittgenstein kind of destroys the entire endeavor of philosophy and im still trying to recover, so actually read one of the boring logic bros like Frege first or something.

>>24522232 (OP)
Accidently Borgesian lol

>>24522373
Nta but how

>>24522496
boreges was a lazy fuck and preferred to read (and write) short texts.

>>24522373
Paraphrase of Borges- "don't ever write a long book if the point can get across in a shorter, concise way"

You see this a lot in Borges. Tlon and Uqbar is a short version of George Berkeley's books, Approach to Al Atism is that Indian book about the birds flying to the center of the earth to discover nothing is there. Most of the time he'll take a longer book and shorten it to a story

>>24522741
lazy bastard

>>24522751
Yeah, I don't like Borges much.

>>24522232 (OP)

>>24523250
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>>24523250
Nicki gets a pass. Op should actually post a few more pictures while he's at it.

>>24523431
The contrast she has to any intellectual endeavour is too sweet for me to look down on it so she gets a pass.

>>24522232 (OP)

This is a great Q, and you’re off to a good start with Greek Phil since it’s the gold standard

Majored in philosophy and was never assigned a book from start to finish. If you _really_ want to get in the weeds, find a book + author you like (for example, Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason) and look up syllabi from a good college or uni and see what they read in their classes.

It takes some time on the front end, but will save you ENORMOUS amounts of time in the long haul. No one needs to read that book cover to cover

Crowd source selections from good sources on the internet basically, or ask gpt what are the most important parts of a specific text are

>>24523433
The bimbo-intellectual pairing is criminally underexplored

>>24523444
Samefag here

do NOT read anything contemporary.

Greeks, Descartes, Kant, Hume, Nietzsche

Personally I enjoyed Kierkegaard’s Either/Or and Fear and Trembling for a great religion-based supplement to existentialism. Dostoevsky novels also are good reads

If you’re interested in the pro-god side of things, St Augustine’s Confessions is a cover to cover read. Just read cliffnotes to Aquinas

But reading Hegel will make you dumber. Heidegger is interesting but not needed. Wittgenstein is, I dunno, ‘intellectual’ Almost anything written after 1900 will make you gay.

Can’t stress that last point enough. Satre, Camus, Foucault, Hegel, Zizek, et al are written for an audience that wants to sound cool at dinner parties and are not serious philosophical investigations. Save time by reading Catcher in the Rye instead

Also, if you’re serious, prepare to only get through ~10 pages an hour. Use study guides and supplements. All this stuff is really hard and not all the greats are great writers

>>24523840
>But reading Hegel will make you dumber
Filtered

>>24523867
Hilarious that you put Kierkegaard into ''serious literature'' and Hegel into ''cool at dinner parties'' when most of Kierkegaard's thought is just aping German idealism. Not that he's not brilliant of course he is, since the Germans were brilliant of course a student would be so as well, but there is next to nothing original in Kierkegaard.

>>24523840
>Can’t stress that last point enough. Satre, Camus, Foucault, Hegel, Zizek, et al are written for an audience that wants to sound cool at dinner parties and are not serious philosophical investigations. Save time by reading Catcher in the Rye instead
God, atleast low culture has the humility to know that it's low culture, pseuds like you bother me to such an insane degree.

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>>24523879
>>24523867

It’s bad philosophy. Unserious, even

>>24523942
I have to accept that the world is full of morons, that no matter how much I try I won't reach you, that there is a chasm between us, and that every attempt is a complete waste of time. But god does it bother me haha. Cheers man, have a nice day.

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>>24524043

You’re a bad writer, you have poor reading comprehension, you give up at the first sign of friction, you don’t make any attempt to be persuasive

Fucking kek

Enjoy sounding cool at the party

Hope you get laid!

>>24523782
>The bimbo-intellectual pairing
I love bimbos so much holy shit any kino like this bros??

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>>24525776
Yeah