New alt-lit agitprop just dropped lads.

https://archive.md/obXuv

Somone was asking the other day if everyone had forgotten about Mixtape Hyperborea, well here he is now

>IF ANYONE HAS THE ABILITY to make literature cool among young men again, it might be Reinspects.

>Twenty-six, handsome, and charming, I got the impression he was sleeping with half the girls at the party, though he claims it’s only two. He insists we meet in a cemetery — “It’s a good place to think” — and we chat sitting in the front row of his black 1997 Ford Mustang. “I used to have a nicer car,” Reinspects says. “A 2020 Camaro. But I totaled it doing donuts.” He smokes three hand-rolled cigarettes over our hour-long chat. Prior to moving to L.A., he bummed around Paris for several months. “The greatest tragedy of my life is that I’m not European.” When he notices a headstone engraved with the name “Macbeth,” he immediately breaks into the “Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow…” soliloquy that closes the play.

>Reinspects is cagey about his personal details. Reinspects is a pen name — a lot of alt-lit writers use pen names — and he refuses to tell me specifics about his life, other than to say he’s from the Southwest, is the son of Slavic immigrants, and went to a Waldorf school, a “child-centered” educational philosophy that emphasizes a child’s holistic well-being. In 2020, he graduated from a state university with a political science degree. He only lets me photograph him from the neck down to avoid getting “face doxxed.”

I hate this fat chungus world we live in

why do presumably left wing establishment writers always stoop to these levels?
>hey that mostly lefty thing you like? the right is going to steal it, better watch out

>>24526645 (OP)
>>IF ANYONE HAS THE ABILITY to make literature cool among young men again, it might be Reinspects.
>>Twenty-six, handsome, and charming, I got the impression he was sleeping with half the girls at the party, though he claims it’s only two.

Listlessness is cool, not normie success and hypersexuality. This writer is surely a millennial if not older.

this is so embarrassing

the first guy who establishes himself as the american Houellebecq or Celine is going to be a millionaire i tells ya

>>24526645 (OP)
reads like a made-up person, and probably is.

>>24526645 (OP)
>the son of Slavic immigrants
yeah "slavic", right

oh it's in rolling stone, yeah this is definitely some fake ass shit.

>>24526683
That stuck out to me as well. It's always these randos who somehow mysteriously get promoted in the public consciousness.

>>24526645 (OP)
>“The greatest tragedy of my life is that I’m not European.”

lets see what the glowie assets can do

>>24526711
my guess is supporting our number one ally

>>24526702
Meanwhile in Europe:
https://youtu.be/RF-rFx3yVzA

>>24526732
Do you know what the difference is between European and American irony?

A European is serious, which is why every act of irony is obvious and a relief before taking on another responsibility.

An American is constantly frivolous, which is why he has trouble finding balance in life and is therefore constantly afraid. Irony in the US therefore results from fear, but also causes fear. This is, among other things, why Americans are so neurotic.

>>24526732
hell ya what a jam

>>24526750
Save your vapid generalizations for your own ethnic hive.

>>24526762
My country is white as snow, touchy Burger :D

once again i am explaining how the french did it first 100 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89pater_la_bourgeoisie


once the american decadent phase is over the american futurist phase will begin

this stuff will be on the edges, maybe at best the author will have a twitter or instagram. they will write about stuff like being a neet, or incel, or cuckold, or some other modern thing that lives on the edge of society.

you'll know its over when the major publishing houses are forced to make their own alt lit garbage books

>>24526809
yeah ppl should really enjoy being on the margins cuz once it gets coopted all the opportunities will just go to ivy league connected people like everything else and you'll be alienated from your own culture

>muh generation
Aren't burgers embarrassed by deriving so much of their identity from groups made by marketing divisions?

>>24526833
No. The true ironies of life are imperceptible to them.

>>24526833
anon trying to put us down
just cause we G-G-G--G-GG ET AROUND

>“There’s a massive cultural pushback against millennial moral censorship,” Chris Zeisscheig, a former porn performer turned indie novelist

>>24526645 (OP)
>cumtown style honeypot to lure in rightwing schizos and then suddenly start shilling the merits of socialism and trans acceptance in 2 years once a sizeable audience has been reached for you sir?

>He later discovered online writers like Robert Stark and Twitter personality Bronze Aged Pervert and was drawn to their “aristocratic radicalism,” he says. “It was right-wing in terms of being individualistic and non-egalitarian, but with a more refined, cultured, and aesthetic bent that you couldn’t really find within the American right.”

BAP; the poster-child of millennial yuppies in 2025 (as he was destined to be)

>>24526976
Trans rights, you fucking bigot.

>>24526983
>astroturfed bronze jew
Your based racist right-wing yuppie, sir.

>>24526990
go back to kiwifarms

>Mexican, Salvadoran and autistic, King unironically uses phrases like “gee golly’ and “hunky dory” in conversation.

total millennial death

>>24526645 (OP)
Reads like a parody tbqh.

>>24526645 (OP)
The fact they think chuds would fall for this, a faceless writing collective that is not only willing to talk to the mainstream media, but is getting favorable-fair coverage from them, makes me a bit worried the chuds actually might win.

>>24527007
they're based in los angeles so probably one of them is a nepo baby with access to a publicist who can get them a story in rolling stone. it's just some failson's corny crew.

>>24527016
Brother (sister?(...unlikely, anyway)), a chudjak cadre is getting a glow up from a Guardian hack. No one is going to buy that shit. No one who would read books in the first place at least. As an enlightened centrist, it's quite embarrassing, if not outright frighteningly incompetent.

>>24527028
ohh the author's main is the guardian? ya def a glow op

>article uses the term alt-lit 11 times
poor tao lin he tried so hard to own the alt-lit brand only to be completely irrelevant

>>24526750
>This is, among other things, why Americans are so neurotic.
The chief cause is circumcision

>>24526652
rage baiting leftards.
What, did you think they only did it to us?

i feel like all this "why aren't men reading novels" stuff like asking "why aren't men listening to jazz"

>>24526645 (OP)
>A major social trend has begun!!!
>It is in LA!!!

That's not how organic movements happen.

>>24526645 (OP)
Good writing usually doesn’t have to slap these faggot labels on it.

>>24527191
and what is your answer?

>>24527228
I don't fuck men unless they read jazz and listen to novels.

>>24526645 (OP)
>Reinspects is cagey about his personal details. Reinspects is a pen name — a lot of alt-lit writers use pen names — and he refuses to tell me specifics about his life, other than to say he’s from the Southwest, is the son of Slavic immigrants, and went to a Waldorf school, a “child-centered” educational philosophy that emphasizes a child’s holistic well-being. In 2020, he graduated from a state university with a political science degree. He only lets me photograph him from the neck down to avoid getting “face doxxed.”
Ah yes, classic case of nepotism. We need to get rid of that. Very Jewish cultural aspect.

>>24527191
men dont listen to music either, pop music caters to the sensibilities of teen white girls

both in literature and pop music there is a definite void of masculine energy, there are articles asking where all the male pop star have gone too

we are long age away from michle jackson dominating as the king of pop

>>24527240
yess reading all those music theory books and listening to audible has finally paid off!

>>24527245
>michael jackson
>masculine energy
lol had me for a minute

>>24527255
you are ignoring my point to make a shitty joke. somewhere around the 2010s they decided that only marketing products to blue haired cat ladies was the way to go

this is how you get a world of taylor swift and romantasy novels

>>24527265
You seem to be full of resentment and fixated on how women look. Have you considered manning the fuck up and listening to jazz for the next 18 months?

>>24527265
no joke, what is masculine about michael jackson? at least axle rose was masculine, sort of

but, have you heard of this thing called "rap music"?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx7P_ENnDPE
>147 million views
it's kind of big

>>24527288
u know when i think abt it jazz is actually hella masculine i mean even rock has chick bands like l7 or whatever, but what's an all chick jazz quartet? like in the whole 20th century jazz there's like alice coltrane and ... idk some singers but i mean instrumentalists. there are tons of women instrumentalists in classical, so it's not like it's sth about playing instruments. what is it about jazz that makes it such a sausagefest?

They keep misspelling his name (&amp did too)…

>>24526690
This. Rolling Stone is garbage. I'd put it on a tier lower than Vice, and they write about gooning to the Grinch.

Never forget that Rolling Stone has never apologized for the lives they destroyed in publishing A Rape on Campus in 2014.

>>24526645 (OP)
>Nearly everyone is white.
And that's a good thing, Rolling Stone.
>start talking about Kamalara Harris losing the election
Good god, why does every news piece about culture inevitably spiral back to the election? Dont these faggots ever think of anything else?
>Despite writing passages that make Lolita’s pedophilia look tame by comparison
Lolita is tame. There are zero explicit sex scenes. Rolling Stone strikes again, showing they've done zero research, but hey, at least it sounds hip. And their readership is too retarded to call them out on it.

>>24527532
>why does every news piece about culture inevitably spiral back to the election?
Its the literal only point of excitement in their otherwise dull lives, and their horse losing lets them pretend to be some sort of oppressed underdog. Remember how like 30 years ago only old people were super into politics, because they're the sort of people who have nothing going on but CNN playing on the TV 24/7/365?

>Dont these faggots ever think of anything else?
Nope.

>>24526645 (OP)
>anti-woke
Hasn't that term been recently redefined to mean "pro-Israel"?

>>24527228
They do, they just don't tell anyone or do performative tiktok bullshit

>>24526732
idk how chuds don't realize germany is gay af

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0qsqZxkxI4

I've never heard of any of these people. Should I have?

>>24528006
no

>>24528006
They are Millennials experiencing the beginnings of their mid-life crisis, so no.

>>24527191
Are men not listening to jazz? I am. Pat Methany ends one of the jojo anime seasons. Seems popular.

>>24528101
oh god pat methany is like everything that makes contemporary jazz cringe. in the 50s jazz was actually cool.

>>24528117
Nothing wrong with Metheny just because you wanna noir larpfor arthoe pussy. Granted it definitely makes me think of my Dad.

>>24526645 (OP)
His book was pretty dreadful. And this account of their meeting feels like a full-on LARP. This is just embarrassing.

>>24526683
i've already narrowed down his surname to ending in "witz", "stein", "berg" or "man"

>>24527007
whats with the filename?

>>24528206
amogus?

>>24528011
>brie and olives
>cornichos and sardines
Holy uncultured swine batman.

>>24527035
>>24527028
>>24527016
What do you even think the "op" here is? I've met Dan Baltic before, these are all real people

>>24528006
Flash in the pan final paroxysms of a dying culture. Keep sticking to books written at least 100 years ago or about shit that happened at least 100 years ago

>>24526661
This chick was dripping wet for the big alt-lit cock
She can hardly contain herself typing this fluff article up.
He probably fucked her in that 97 stang, let's be honest.

>>24526750
You'd be paranoid too if you lived in an occupied nation but everyone around you acts like you don't. Fucks with your head.

>>24526645 (OP)
only thing missing from that image is a bottle of estradiol

>>24527028
NVM my chick comment, this guy wanted to swallow the other guys hog whole

>>24528225
>Dan Baltic
>Blurb Book 1: "About the author: Fired from his NYC nonprofit job for writing a "reactionary" manifesto during work hours, he drowns his sorrows with high-end liquor and online porn while raging against the "Davos Daddies" and their plans to crush Western civilization"
>Book 2: A smut writing project bunch of sympathetic stories about the plight of sex workers.

It seems they have a bunch female authors in this little glowgram as well, all of whom have the same backstory about being cancelled for being reactionary but in fact just write smut.

Luring chuds in with the promise of a based experience, only to divert them with horny, otherwise known as the 4chan mission brief.

>>24528271
>if you join this writing club you might accidentally have sex
quite the glow op huh

>>24528280
Correct. Women ruin everything they have ever touched, and there's not a single example in all of history tonthe contrary. Once women have infiltrated a movement, it's dead.

>>24528280
i would rather have sex with an actual prostitute than some 6/10 who's entire biblio is books about being an actual prostitute.

>>24528280

>>24526645 (OP)
I see some occult symbols on one of those books.

>>24528271
>Fired from his NYC nonprofit job for writing a "reactionary" manifesto during work hours, he drowns his sorrows with high-end liquor and online porn while raging against the "Davos Daddies" and their plans to crush Western civilization"
this sounds like something a chick from an mfa program who has never knowingly socialized with a republican would write as a parody of chuds. sounds so inauthentic. if you're going to write a book about rightwing conspiracy shit at least watch alex jones once.

>>24526645 (OP)
>Twenty-six, handsome, and charming, I got the impression…soliloquy that closes the play.
I think this guy should kill himself. This reads like the biography of a pedophile drama teacher that fucks seventh graders.
>>24528280
That's how every glow op works, retard. That's the main basis of anti-spy training given to workers dealing with confidential information.

>>24527104
>The chief cause is circumcision
Never understood this, literally the only reason I would ever snip my cock is if I got a Jewish wife in return

>>24528452
>That's how every glow op works, retard. That's the main basis of anti-spy training given to workers dealing with confidential information.
what's the op you retard? tricking single 20-somethings into having heterosexual relations with an egirl or two? these are all just normal people writing what's basically smut that gets read online by the other 30 people at the party and nobody else. most of these guys aren't even chuds, they're gen x bernie bros mad they can't call people fags and retards anymore. if you knew any of these people irl you'd know how unhinged it is to sperg out that their twitter book club is some kind of honeypot. the fbi doesn't give a shit that dan baltic is doing readings of nutcrankr to the girl who went on a sam hyde stream once.

Man I really don't identify with most of the writers in my peer group.

>>24527016
anon most of those rags are dying pay like $1000 they will write an article blowing you

>>24528494
So what you're saying is, if I have a few thousand dollars to throw around I could self-promote on a grand scale?

>>24526652
Because they are smart enough to understand that every space needs to be strictly gatekept at all time so that your side can maintain power. Leftists succeeded in their long march through the institutions and now they aren't stupid enough to give any space to the right.

>>24526645 (OP)
idk how to describe it but that's extremely repulsive person. Trying to act like sophisticated intellectual while he is materialistic rich-kid idiot trying to look cool to stupid women.
Reminds me of university students studying literature, who do not read, but want to look like they read. That fucking hamlet part...holy fuck...he 100% memorized random parts of classics without reading them just to seem well-read.
These people belong to mass grave. No, scratch that. They want to belong to mass grave, but historically mass graves are reserved for intellectuals, which they are not.

>>24526645 (OP)

Yeah I'll stick to classics and weird fiction from 80-150 years ago over reading these retarded, American faggots.

>>24526645 (OP)
>Twenty-six, handsome, and charming, I got the impression he was sleeping with half the girls at the party, though he claims it’s only two. He insists we meet in a cemetery — “It’s a good place to think” — and we chat sitting in the front row of his black 1997 Ford Mustang. “I used to have a nicer car,” Reinspects says. “A 2020 Camaro. But I totaled it doing donuts.” He smokes three hand-rolled cigarettes over our hour-long chat. Prior to moving to L.A., he bummed around Paris for several months. “The greatest tragedy of my life is that I’m not European.” When he notices a headstone engraved with the name “Macbeth,” he immediately breaks into the “Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow…” soliloquy that closes the play.
Please tell me this is satire. Holy fuck.

>Vibe Shift
>aristocratic radicalism
>a new consciousness that emerges that’s post-political, anti-tech, anti-stimulation
>“begrudgingly” made a Twitter account
> look for fiction that, however unpolished, has an element of authenticity
>banner of anti-corporatism and anti-techno feudalism
Vgh

There's very little money to be made off writing, outside very specific niches dominated by very big names. So beyond those niches /lit/ is dominated by colored queer welfare faggots sucking culture grants, and then there are these cunts who spend their dad's nepo dough on opening a publishing house that shits out three books that say "fag" before they get bored and abandon the whole biz. And even then they only draw attention as le "subcurrent" for the gay-ass burger left-right rigamarole.

They're willing to do absolutely anything as long as it's not writing something that people would like so much they'd be willing to buy it.

>Vibe Shift
>aristocratic radicalism
>a new consciousness that emerges that’s post-political, anti-tech, anti-stimulation
>“begrudgingly” made a Twitter account
> look for fiction that, however unpolished, has an element of authenticity
>banner of anti-corporatism and anti-techno feudalism
Vgh

There's very little money to be made off writing, outside very specific niches dominated by very big names. So beyond those niches lit is dominated by colored queer welfare faggots sucking culture grants, and then there are these cunts who spend their dad's nepo dough on opening a publishing house that shits out three books that say "fag" before they get bored and abandon the whole biz. And even then they only draw any attention as le "subcurrent" for the gay-ass burger left-right rigamarole.

They're willing to do absolutely anything as long as it's not writing something that people would like so much they'd be willing to buy it.

Reads like a parody, to get the male audience today you first self publish it in webnovel form and if it gets traction you start a patreon and then you get it professionally edited and release it on amazon and audioshit. You can write whatever you want, right know its mostly fantasyslop but will change when more authors catch on.

>>24528835
Or youchewb. You forgot about the youchewb pipeline

>>24528470
>imply that something can't be a psychological operation because it results in members having sex
>sperg when confronted with your own retardation
Sorry nobody likes your faggot friends.

>>24528979
if you weren't a dipshit you wouldn't have to come up with unbelievable lies just to say you don't like something

>>24529021
>le performative lowercase Faggot wants you to know he's not like the other boys

>>24526645 (OP)
If this article wasn't about how the scene was "anti-woke" you faggots would be ridiculing it but because they're Le Based you faggots have to pretend that they're producing good, important work lul

>>24526750
Rent free

>>24526770
Not for long. Especially if I have anything to do with it.

>born 2001
>comes from a wealthy, successful family (good genes)
>attended NYU
>worked as a tutor to Baron Trump, taught him martial arts and geopolitics
>quit to focus on his art
>has written numerous essays, short stories and poems for popular right wing substacks
>travelled across America by various means of transport
>is on first name terms with Tao Lin, F Gardner and a host of influential figures in the world of contemporary art
>has Elon Musk as a follower on Twitter
>stylish, suave, intelligent
>is not a virgin, and has in fact bedded at least several women (female)
>has written a highly provocative debut novel (yet to be published)

How can we compete?

>>24529062
Most people in this thread have been mocking it, there's just one guy in here who personally knows people involved in it defending it

>>24526645 (OP)
Publishers are this desperate eh

>>24529033
>better capitalize a random word so I'm not also using all lower cases

>>24529114
>>worked as a tutor to Baron Trump, taught him martial arts and geopolitics
Who are you talking about?

>>24526645 (OP)
The only two lit movements I would be interested in would be a new pulp action hero movement, and esoteric wodehousianism (which I just recently created a thread on and no one replied)

>>24529168
Have you considered using twitter or starting a sub stack?

>>24529199
I've been on Twitter for years now

>>24529310
It shows.

Zinger!

>>24526661
You're not quite right. The coolest thing it's possible to do in this age of permissiveness and depravity is to be boring and wholesome. When the normies catch on, you'll start to see people openly idolizing Ned Flanders.

>>24526645 (OP) (OP) #
>Pegas speaks first, sharing a piece from his self-published short story collection The Black Album, about a viral video of a man being tortured by a Mexican drug cartel. The tormentors administer an adrenaline drip to keep their prisoner awake and maximize pain. Earlier, Pegas told me his two biggest literary influences were Bret Easton Ellis

How original

>and David Foster Wallace, and his story combines Ellis’ gratuitous violence with Wallace’s postmodern fixation with mass media.

Daring today, aren't we?

>>24529479
Man, funny thing. A few months ago I was watching old simpsons and I had that realization. If a person lived like Ned Flanders, it would be a pretty good life.

>>24526645 (OP)
>the son of Slavic immigrants
Meaning he’s Jewish, like all of Costin’s butt buddies.

>>24526831
>all the opportunities will just go to ivy league connected people
Costin went to MIT, Columbia, and Yale. Jonathan Keeperman (Lomez) was a professor at UCLA. Both are Jewish.

>the jews are trying to tell me that the "right wing" is a bunch of jews in LA/new york being slightly less jewish (albeit very jewishly) again

Whoa, you're telling me the whole "/lit/ Renaissance" is a Jewish psyop too!?

>>24529798
>DA JOOOOOOS
>DA JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS
>JOOOS JOOOS JOOOOOOOS
Please go back to your containment board, the adults are trying to discuss literature

>>24529904
why would they do that? I hate jews as much as anybody because they are responsible for everything bad that happens in my life, but controlling lit seems like small potatos

>>24529913
Using the silly alternate spelling doesn‘t make him wrong

>>24529928
>DA JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!!

>>24529921
People are already speculating about Rienspects being one of Them itt...

>>24529904
>TKD on the cover
>one of three (3) contributing authors is a Jew
lol

DT was nice to me on twitter and for that reason I like him. He’s very funny and his stuff comes off as nonchalant. You’re tempted to think “I could write like that” and then you realize it’s harder than it looks.

>>24526645 (OP)
Buy an ad, faggot

>>24530027
I could never write like that as I'm not a homosexual Jew. Like thinking you could be a bird.

>>24530014
>JOOS JOOS JOOOS JOOS!!!!
>DA JOOOOOOS!

Weird. I met the journo who wrote this piece at that New Ritual party. Talked to him for a good chunk of the night actually. I went with some friends adjacent to the scene because I wanted to date one of the e-girls in attendance. Just glancing over this piece now, he really seems to have missed the point. For starters, if he were a good writer he would have honed in a lot more on the inherent comedy of the night. That propane tank falling into the fire pit and nearly exploding just being a footnote is an insane waste. One of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. All the theatrics of that night rang uncanny in such a hilarious way.

Otherwise, I feel like the entire narrative is so forced. I sincerely don't see much that's reactionary about this scene; I say this as someone who is legitimately right wing and who wishes that it WERE more so. But it's not. It's quite literally just the same grouping of nihilists reading their masturbemoirs to each other as have always been. Maybe they say "retard" or pay lip service to some BAP talking point from 7 years ago, but it's all the same as it ever was. Just bored well off twenty somethings chasing drugs and pussy and fame while writing about not much at all. I don't want to be harsh here, but he mentions that Classy Fred Blassy girl reading shakespeare. What he omits is her fatly prattling on about her SSRI use with the exact same tone, cadence, and ethos as Lena Dunham in 2013. Pegas features here. He's a nice guy, I only talked to him once. But he's just a slightly younger Mike Ma in my estimation. Unironically the only good writer on display that night WAS Omar King, whom McDermmott does a MASSIVE disservice to. No John, we were not laughing at the invocation of the naughty no no slurs. We were laughing because Omar wrote a legitimately funny, strange story in the vein of Flannery O'Connor-- but you were too concerned with his "neurodivergence" and ethnicity. Very midwit appraisal of the night. Disappointing to say the least.

>>24530105
I don't care who's a Jew, I just think it's funny that the editor unironically slapped TKD right beneath the name of the Jewish guy he just published. I liked Mixtape Hyperborea.

>>24530128
Yeah, it doesn't strike me as anything special, having seen the same kind of thing in my city across the continent. Fresh faces convinced they and their friends are the new taste-makers, where the insularity of it might incubate a handful of good writers but also puts some dogshit (or simply under-developed) writers on the same stage. Get them all to dress nice and the photo coverage will be fine though.

I don't think these kinds of scenes are bad, just a little naive, and probably a decent stepping-stone for some.

>>24530176
I'd kind of like to get more involved in the scene but I feel like my writing isn't ready to be shared quite yet. But then again it does seem that a lot of the people who d read aren't particularly good either. Probably a good way to meet girls

All the faggots itt talking about meeting whores ffs get a clue

Do I have to move to the coasts to get involved in this sort of stuff? The most "literary scene" action I ever got was when I lived in New York City for a while. I was part of an actual novelist's writing group, met some cool people. These modern scenes seem simultaneously ridiculous and intriguing. Like, I can tell all these Dimes Square type people are really talentless poseurs, but they seem fun to hang around in a limited capacity.

>>24530294
It's probably not the only literary group in your area, and not the only people willing to be irreverent.
>I feel like my writing isn't ready to be shared quite yet
You can always try finding a literary open mic, as odds are you won't be the worst. Plus it's something you can treat as an exercise in multiple ways, even if it's low-stakes.

Two the other two points: yes. (You'll meet other interesting people besides the women too.)

>>24529913
Little man thinks himself smarter than a vast majority of pre-WWII authors

>>24529913
What containment board? Even Reddit is virulently antisemitic now.

>>24529904
It’s more embarrassing than that.

>>24531905
go on…

>>24526645 (OP)
Can you seriously imagine attempting to pander to chuds by starting off with how much pussy the guy gets? How are they even supposed to relate to that at all? They don’t even want to have a harem 99% of the time; they seriously want a traditional monogamous relationship. I wonder how high on coke the writer was when he put this to page.

>>24532005
Basically there was a really active group on /lit/ publishing and shilling their books here. The editor of &amp said it was like a /lit/ renaissance, in the sense of a renaissance on /lit/, but certain members of the group interpreted that to mean a full-blown literary renaissance, and other members of the group felt compelled to own that label once it started getting pushed on the actual board. It failed because the &amp editor is a crackhead who chases instant gratification and Gardner kept kneecapping other people’s projects.

>>24532104
Our enemies fundamentally cannot understand us.

>>24532306
It’s more embarrassing than that.

>>24532306
wew, so glad I did not give this guy my novel to publish. I almost did, but I smelled that something was off, so I backed out at almost the last minute.

>>24527087
at least he was spammed on /lit/ in the early teens. maybe he should come out as a black lesbian with ADHD and partial blindness in one eye. Actually, that trend may have lost steam by now. That was so 2016.

>>24532362
Honestly if Tao hadn't fried his brain with drugs there's decent odds he might be a major American writer by now. He's not white, so publishers would have actually looked at him, and I really felt some of his early stuff had promise.

That whole Alt-Lit crowd feels like a massive lost opportunity. More than one of them could have actually gone somewhere in the world of literature if they hadn't squandered their potential on drugs and sex. It's like something out of a Bret Easton Ellis novel.

>>24532365
Can't really blame them since that is what the mass monkey culture celebrates. I was also a victim to the broadcast. Nevertheless, some scholar may unearth the remains two generations from now, if belle-lettres are still studied. But I can't really evaluate it myself, since I never read the work, seeing that I was balls deep in frog poetic schizophrenia at the time.

>>24526809
>you'll know its over when the major publishing houses are forced to make their own alt lit garbage books
We're probably only a few years out from this.

>>24530432
Yeah, you really do. I was involved in a small literature scene at my urban college campus while I attended school in a coastal megalopolis. It was the early '10s so the "alt lit" scene back then was still quite left-leaning and these days would be called woke but to my eye it seemed more punkish. I didn't fit in, in any case, despite not fitting in with the establishment literary crowd either, and didn't stick around.

>>24532358
He would’ve almost certainly put out a professional product if you had, it just wouldn’t have been marketed to a viable audience.

>>24526983
>BAP
>aristocratic

Pick one.

>>24527240
I read novels and listen to jazz. Not interested in fucking though; I'm already married and we're expecting a son in September.

>>24532583
Novel-reading, jazz-listening father of two. God bless.

>>24526645 (OP)
What would DFW (pbuh) say about this?

>>24527459
>A Rape on Campus
As of 2021, Erdely writes for the Jewish Federation of Greater Philadelphia and co-hosts the Jewish Philly podcast.[45][46] She previously taught writing courses at Temple University and the University of Pennsylvania.[47] She also serves as director of content for CTRL+M Health, a headache app.[48]

>>24530432
>Like, I can tell all these Dimes Square type people are really talentless poseurs
How is Honor Levy talentless?

>>24526645 (OP)
>the “Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow…” soliloquy

> It is a tale
>Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
>Signifying nothing.
perfect

Does anyone have any or know where I should look for any practical advice concerning how to actually live with a "bronze age mindset" I have a hard time initializing these feelings or seeing things this way. I understand intellectually but that doesnt automatically translate.

>>24527557
It hasn't you absolute schizo

>>24529913
>mfw I see someone talking about the jews
you just can't, OK!?!?
why dont you just go back to talking about white guys!!!!/?

>>24526652
Kind of funny how the left want to be revolutionary subversives and edgy punks but when real edgy punks show up they act like pearl clutchers.

>>24534801
nobody without a criminal record is an edgy punk

>>24534816
What do you call antifa who are backed by USAID>George Soros>Attorney Retainers who will bail them out after their controlled riot? Are they still punk?

>>24534508
No. It's stupid. Just read Plato.

>>24528607
The world is watching now.
Their rhetoric is falling flat.

>>24534938
It's from >Twitter, I know, but in this I come back to the idea put forth about foxes vs lions

Most of the Leftists in their long march are foxes. They rule by guile, cunning, and infiltration.

But that only works when you can act in stealth and secret, with nobody noticing you. When the spotlight is, suddenly, upon you, you can't operate that way because you'll be met with open resistance. You have to be a lion, basically, in those circumstances, and foxes can't transform themselves into lions.

Leftists basically don't have an answer to the prospect of getting their bones broken. Not even the antifa types, really, they're used to causing trouble unopposed versus being met in an open fight. They're terrorists, not warriors.

>>24529350
>lib pop groups want to be edgy subversives while their literature is paraded by mega corps and babied in the media
>Actually subversives who spent their adolescence under anonymity out of necessity to avoid doxxing and leftist mafia bullying.
>"oh wow you have plausible deniability? fuck you!!!!"

Cunts never have self awareness.

>>24534953
I think the problem with this analogy is that the right has had to become even more subversive and practice more guile than the left over the last 15 years.
Leftists get their opinions from mass media, they trust mass media more than the right. So where are the right wing coming from? totally underground initiatives.
Leftists are completely out in the open, the right still relies on anonymous accounts to spread ideology. A lot of right wing Twitter accounts just copy everything from 4chan so the whole movement is rooted in anonymity.

I think it works like
The left can label themselves as leftist just fine, but their actions are repulsive
The right wing label is repulsive, but their actions are accepted.

>>24536149
it's funny that the left produced works like manufacturing consent and have every kind of critical study imaginable but are unable to question even the most biased mass media

>>24536158
it worked when the left was all honey no vinegar, then when they felt they had bolstered their numbers over the right they let out all the vinegar and now sensible people can see how utterly insane their "suicidal empathy" truly is. Being a sexy liberal is fun when they're appeasing you with bread and circuses, I think many of us code switch to being leftists in the workplace and in the street. It's only in private conversation and amongst anonymous forums can we speak candidly.

>>24536168
when i'm at work i never say my own opinion, i just say stuff like "well some people say that..." and "according to blah blah it's said that..."

>>24528233
>This chick was dripping wet for the big alt-lit cock
Women can get into a man being a male feminist and sharing political interests, that can work on them for a while, but eventually their hormones flip and they require that man to dismiss their needs and tell them to fuck off, and these pleasant Understanding men just aren't up for it. It's always the same shit.

>>24536168
>>24536149


>pretend to be lefty in public

its called "hiding your power level", its a forgotten old tactic that used to be popular with pol types

>>24536212
I know 4chan lingo is proper here but if we're being serious you used the established terms amongst academics.
I was throwing the word "eceleb" to describe "influencers" and got corrected.
Code Switching is the term to hide your powerlevel, but let's be real here, using a dragonball reference is silly. I'm not a newfag I just never watched the show so I don't want to use that term.

Regardless, you don't have to be a neo nazi to be against whatever the fuck the left is doing.

>>24529904
POP SUMMER BANGER OF THE YEAR MMXXV™ WARNING: DO NOT CLICK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0DExjsAJpI

>>24534801
muh left retardation aside it is a fact little remarked upon in legacy media that the stereotype of a miserable scold changed during the 10's from a middle-aged christian woman to a middle-aged pronouns woman with a rainbow flag, nor the irony that both remain a middle-aged woman despite the tectonic shift

>>24536149
this chart just shows the collapse of legacy media in the face of algorithmically curated content bubbles. legacy media as such survives only as part of the content bubble of certain groups of the lower-affluent. like, you own two homes and work at a university but you're still the ready prey of finance and tech

>>24536232
code switching as a term in practice is just another excuse for when various diverse groups unexpectedly revert to mean

>>24536212
>>24536232
Hiding your powerlevel is about not being an anime sperg in public you retarded newfaggots.

>>24526645 (OP)
This guy is a corny ass nigga.

>>24535896
>spent their adolescence under anonymity out of necessity to avoid doxxing and bullying
bruh

>>24536232
Code switching isn't the same. You can code switch and not hide unpopular beliefs. It's more like using an unnamed class dialect. I had to do it when I worked with wealthy people in Boston. If I started sounding like a Massachusetts townie, not pronouncing R's at the end of words, using "wicked" as an adjective etc., I'd get dismissed as an idiot, so I had to change my pronunciation of words and avoid certain ones altogether, but that whole time, if I read the room properly, I could still make jokes about jews and women.

>>24536802
> Come here and be edgy!
> NOT LIKE THAT! SHUT IT DOWN!!!!
LMAO. Every time.

>>24526645 (OP)
sounds fake, faggot, and gay.

I think the problem with a lot of modern “alt-lit” authors now is that they all do the same thing:

>talk about pop culture and capitalist alienation
>pushes vaguely incel ideologies
>filled with watered down 4chan humour

You’d think there’d be more variety.

The discussion of code switching is just retard pseud shit.
>I'm gonna take this obvious thing that everyone understands and make it complicated so I can be the one who understands it the most!
Yes, people talk different when they're in different situations. You don't get a nobel prize for pointing that out.

>>24536993
Hiding what you actually believe to fit in and changing your accent and vocabulary to fit in are still different, brainlet.

>>24537003
Regardless, only faggots mince words.

All the archive.xy links track the IPs of users which is why you always see them in far right threads which are clearly posted by leftoids. This is some kind of long running campaign against 4chan users

>>24537106
go on…

>>24537106
is that so? can you post any proof?

>>24536924
>You’d think there’d be more variety.
They aren't very creative, first of all, because creatives create. They don't usually go around trying to start "movements" because they're busy with their work. Oftentimes when they do, it usually happens as a consequence of their creations taking off in popularity.

There's also the religious liberal problem of needing to conform hard with orthodoxy, so, this limits how far they can push the envelope and actually be subversive and shocking. Revolutionary art challenges the sensibilities and orthodoxies of the society in which it was made. Catcher in the Rye, for example, challenged American society and the "American Dream" by calling it all fake posturing for the sake of putting on appearances. 'Alt-Lit' kids can't do that, because they're true believers in the modern liberal world order, and to challenge it would go against everything they have ever held to be true. It's the appearance of radicality with none of the substance, hence, boring.

>>24537014
Apparently everybody doesn't understand the obvious thing... like you for instance, dummy.

>>24530057
>>24530176
>>24530981
>>24531248
>>24534671
>JOOOOOOOS
>JOOOOOS
>DA JOOOOOOS JOOOS DA JOOOOS
>JOOOS JOOOS JOOOS JOOOS
>DA JOOOS DA JOOOOOOOOOOOS

>>24535896
>out of necessity to avoid doxxing and leftist mafia bullying
LMAO
>WE REAL SUBVERSIVES
>WE BIG STRONG
>WE NOT WEAK FAGGOTS WE NOT WEAK WIMMENZ
>WE BIG N STRONG WE POWERFUL
>WE GONNA KILL YOU WE SO BIG
>don't bully meeeeeeeeee!!!
>you can't tell my mom I'm retardeddddddd!!!
>that's not faiiiiiiiiiiiiiir!!!

>>24538089
You ok sport?

>>24528457
>Never understood this, literally the only reason I would ever snip my cock is if I got a Jewish wife in return
Okay. I would snip, for Abby. I have taste.

>latest glowie project pimped by rolling stone

>>24533928
>How is Honor Levy talentless?
other than appearing fuckable in some photos tossed around... what exactly is her damn first book about, anyways. Sell it to me, like you need my approval to go ahead with her writing project. What would your pitch be.

This little ripoff of Mike Ma does not impress me

>>24539220
I've seen the infamous first page of her book and that's enough for me. Joyce can do slang, maybe Pynchon can do slang, but she's clearly not as talented as either of them. If you're not Joyce or Pynchon don't try to write in the slange of your time and stick to timeless diction. Otherwise you'll be dated from the minute your book goes to print.

>>24539205
so you be sayin this what the new niggas should be larpin tho fr fr on my momma you be spittin

>>24539220
I'd love to breed Honor Levy.

>>24540297
In an Octopus's garden
In the shade

>>24536149
>the right has had to become even more subversive and practice more guile than the left over the last 15 years.

Surely no one takes this remark seriously.

>>24526711
Checked and realpolitik pilled

>>24540366
Glowniggers won't check these repeating numerals

>>24528568
>grand scale
why do you think they're dying?

Los Angeles is cool

>>24534953
Both sides of the political spectrum have sort of painted themselves into a rhetorical corner and can't get out of it. With the left it's obvious, they want to be righteous crusaders against oppression but can't admit that they've become an entrenched bureaucratic behemoth in government and entertainment and frequently rely on brute force or social pressure to try and intimidate their opponents.

The right also tends to be hypocritical, in that they idolize strength, power, and self-assurance and want to portray themselves as paragons of these virtues, but generally speaking neoliberalism has eroded the foundation of individual power until it's now rare to see anyone work their way to prosperity and happiness. Look at the main characters of Harassment Architecture or Mixtape Hyperborea, they're both successful wealthy chads who have no trouble getting laid and portray themselves as effortlessly sidestepping the social conventions that hamstring everyone else. The authors are both handsome prep school kids who can just bum around and waste their time writing books while their social reject audience slogs through another day as a fulfillment associate at the globohomo slaveworks.

I forgot where I was going but my point is that I'd like to see a genuinely honest right wing book. Mixtape was good but it felt inauthentic to the average experience of the modern right-winger who only ever experiences true satisfaction vicariously through a screen. I remember there were a few tries back in the old /crit/ threads, tons of stories about bitter, isolated young men working dead-end jobs at fast food places but I vaguely recall that they also seemed to lack substance or honesty in some way.

>>24526652
They are insecure

>>24543381
What is needed is for a lot of things to just get broken. Politically, economically, culturally. The entire ecosystem of the modern West has become impossible to maneuver in, and needs a good shakeup. It needs someone to take a sledgehammer and smash it into a million pieces. Many things in the world today need to be broken, and broken beyond all hope of repair.

Isn't this the only sensible reason to ever have supported Trump? Not for this or that policy reason but in his capacity as a Destroyer. To break things, break BIG things, even without doing it on purpose. That was always the logic in it for me. Because for the good of many people, many things need to be broken.

>>24543921
That combined with the insensible reasons. Anyone paying attention knew he would win again.

>>24526976
I mean, transgenderism was always kinda philosophically right-leaning if you think about it. It's just that on an instinctual level most rightists are too xenophobic and disgust motivated to care. Nobody is more obsessed with upholding traditional ideas of gender and sexuality than trans people. They just want the traditional roles opposite to what they were born into.

>>24544275
you're, like, one step into the concept. there are more steps to take, but i agree plenty of trans people never make them. this is all a result of the rather conservative structuring of society and it affects cis and trans alike.

>>24544275
That's ridiculous. The idea that you can arbitrarily decide you're a different gender than the one you're born into is not right-wing at all. There's nothing "traditional" about it.

>>24543381
>Mixtape was good but it felt inauthentic to the average experience of the modern right-winger
So? I took it as sort of an idealised teenager in an idealised world. You get a glimpse of his frustrations (some stuff early on about his parents being cheapskates about cereal, how his buddies aren't happy for him that he got a BJ), but it's way more about stitching together a series of vignettes of adolescence. The risks and dangers are all child-sized and resolve within their respective chapters, and the protagonist never really aspires to be anything but just is. The perfect quip. The perfect routine. The unabashed love of his friends. It makes it unrealistic, but it allows the story to be an ideal and maybe feel closer to the positive parts of what it is to be a kid: struggles that end when the school day is over, terrifying things you bounce back from, risks that are only risks because you're a kid who doesn't know anything, friendships you don't have to work for. If you try to just remember the good parts of ages 10-18, then blur out the in-between and embellish them a bit, that's sort of what the book felt like.

There's a little more to it in the protagonist and his seafaring dream, and throwing in the term Hyperborean if you want to call that a dogwhistle or something, but I really read it as humourous and unfettered nostalgia 99%. Bear in mind Adem is apparently 26, and the book is about a high school senior in 2007, so he deliberately chose a setting that he didn't grow up in to write about. I don't think there's anything terrifically deep about it beyond choosing pretty well where to be honest; it's the kind of book I immediately wanted to show some of my high school friends. It's easy and it's funny and it brings back some nice memories.

I know at times he's driving at modern flawed masculinity, and I think giving his own idealised account of that is better (or at least still worthwhile) rather than hamfisting a more contemporary or realistic take on the struggle to attain it. If there are any meaningful takeaways, it's to be a homie and to tell your homies you love them, and that's cool enough.

>>24544275
>Nobody is more obsessed with upholding traditional ideas of gender and sexuality than trans people.
How many tranny housewives do you know? How many Ftm's fulfill the traditional provider role for their partner?
From what I can see online, most of them are degenerate sexual deviants that uphold 0 traditional values. Unless you want to argue that grooming kids on discord is traditional cause the ancient Greeks also did it IRL.

>>24544391
You can really feel the genuine concern of these words when your own board is littered with wannabe-rapist posts.

>>24544397
Concern? I was just disagreeing that trannies are upholding traditional values.

>>24528006
I haven't heard of any of these people either so I don't know but they all sound like massive fags anyway so who cares

>>24544397
What's wrong with rape?

>>24544391
Trannies uphold the "traditional values" of defining man and woman as masculine and feminine feelings and performance. Which is less "traditional values" and more-so traditionally sexist values.

>>24545614
But they don't "perform" according to those masculine or feminine roles.

>>24528117
Name some good stuff and why it was cool.

wow this thread is still alive?

>>24544891
Nothing now that I think about it

Not donating to your Patreon.

>>24545618
They absolutely do attempt to do so in order to build upon the delusion of “presenting” as a woman or man.

>>24547634
No they don't fucking attempt it.
I repeat, how many tranny housewives do you know? How many ftm's become providers for their partners?

>>24527179
It works way better on the leftards. they never see it coming

>>24547669
They don't see a lot of things coming. Best way for righties to beat lefties isn't confronting them with truth, it's bald-faced lying.

>>24539220
>What would your pitch be.

>>24549168
You have the fridge body down but you're too flat for this to make sense

>>24529114
who this about?

>>24526645 (OP)
I work with lots of these types and I've never ever heard of him, he 100% paid for this shit.

>picking a billionaire funded astroturfed "side" in a fake culture war
>arguing about it online
>for free
Unironically wake up sheeple

>>24550036
All civil wars are wars between the elites. If you have a faction you want to win it should be your goal to get at least some elites to join your cause, if you are not one of the upper-class yourself. Proles never successfully initiate a conflict.

>>24543921
Someone only says this when they don't understand the functions of everyone keeping society operating.

When the founding fathers had 13 individual colonies being harassed by Britain and wanted independence they didn't "smash everything" to fix shit. They were a collection of lawyers, generals, inventors, statesmen. They used their strengths to fix their society.

What America needs is a coherent vision, a singular goal that BOTH sides can agree on.
I think what's incredible is that everyone has already chosen a scapegoat that every generation can blame.

>>24544275
Ttansgenderism is at its core, a giant scam, like tricking someone into drug addiction, or falling for a cult.
There is no self determination, there is no individual spirit. They are always broken people who latched onto a farcical solution.

It's big pharma pushing these 100k surgeries, subsidized by governments through emotional manipulation. Lifelong pain medication and hormone therapy, putting someone into lifelong debt.

What's ironic however I'd that the left claim to be the moralists but let people destroy themselves in the name of "personal liberty" while the people on the right are trying to warn vulnerable youths to stay away from dangerous cults.

>>24550036

>>24551000
Congratulations on missing the point so fucking hard you might as well have been shooting with your eyes closed. Sin Taxes and Aston Martin making a cool car has absolutely fuck-all with talking heads financing some sort of weird astroturfed "alternative literature" movement in a transparent attempt to strangle an actual such movement in the crib.