Good psychology books about autism/asperger?

>>24526766 (OP)
most cases of aspergers are just boys who got smothered by their mom so never learned decent social skills. any books that admit this fact?

Right now I'm reading Temple Grandin's The Way I See It, pretty good

It literally is just low IQ. Anything else is just a psyop to cover up the fact that they're making us retarded

>>24526766 (OP)
Capitalism and schizophrenia changed or rather refined my view on autism

>>24526783
how do english professors get away with larping as psychologists, economists, etc. it's wild

>>24526780
I'd say most geniuses are extremelly on the spectrum. Doesn't mean I don't hate them

>>24526766 (OP)
Unmasking Autism is good

>>24526786
I hate to break it to you but there isn't a single provable case of a genius with autism in history. A lot of them were definitely cuckoos but clearly didn't have autism as modern science researchs generally tend to all reach the conclusion that autism doesn't give you any kind of superpower (I know I had an argument with somebody over it and we exchanged studies and all of his contradicted their title in the conclusions nobody seems to read).
It really shouldn't be considered to be a superpower because it just pushes societal problems to the side and if there ever was an autistic genius, the hard work he put in to overcome his autism would just be brushed aside

>>24526817
most people with autism will never even speak never mind so much as graduate high school

>>24526766 (OP)
I dislike loud noises and stem when alone. Besides that I don’t really think there are universal psychological traits for autism.

>>24526837
Yes a lot of them are (literally) drooling retards. Depends on the level of tism

>>24526844
wow u dislike loud noises? must be autism!

people claiming autism want so bad to special but don't even have the balls to become trans

>>24526852
No, I was diagnosed with it at 18. I don’t actually want to be autistic.

>>24526863
people who have real autism get diagnosed in elementary school because they're missing developmental milestones like talking, not at 18 because they're nerds with shitty social skills

>>24526817
Autism isn’t a superpower that’s just a retarded slogan you’re misunderstanding. High IQ autism has been documented since before the spectrum revision. You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about.

>>24526887
literally one of the indicators of autism is low iq. you're just some aspergers nerd coping.

>>24526844
There are universal traits, it’s part of the diagnosis. Jesus fucking christ the blind leading the blind.

>>24526789
it was rubbish and the author couldn't help injecting her/his tedious politics into everything.

>>24526893
how many people do you know who like loud noises? wow i bet autistic people also dislike being punched in the face, hey, me too! i must be autistic.

>>24526892
> one of the indicators of autism is low iq
DSM V is publicly available you retarded brownoid. Intellectual disability is a separate diagnosis.
Why the fuck are people so opinionated about things they choose never to understand or fact check?

>>24526902
Hyperacusis is one of the most testable physiological symptoms you could have. I wish I could ethnically cleanse every one of you pajeetposters.

>>24526906
ya in dsm 4 autism was under "pervasive development disorders" not mommy's little genius disorder

>>24526895
give examples

>>24526906
from dsm 5:
>Autism spectrum disorder. Intellectual disability is common among individuals with
autism spectrum disorder. Assessment of intellectual ability may be complicated by social-communication and behavior deficits inherent to autism spectrum disorder, which
may interfere with understanding and complying with test procedures. Appropriate assessment of intellectual functioning in autism spectrum disorder is essential, with reassessment across the developmental period, because IQ scores in autism spectrum disorder may be unstable, particularly in early childhood.

>>24526906
>guy with developmental disorder calls others "retarded brownoid"
interesting

>>24526906
Damn they ganging up on you little nigga

So are there any good books about autism/asperger? this thread has been useless so far

>>24526780
Its not, though. That's down syndrome
>>24526786
Good. We hate you, too.

>>24526955
If the shoe fits

>>24526817
this is a reverse cope. Newton, Kafka, Wittgenstein, Orwell, etc., all come off as having Asperger's if you study their biographies. besides, the idea that "autism" is a superpower is just marketing to describe the tradeoffs that high-functioning autism gives you. you get better at certain kinds of problems, but you get worse at others.
>>24526892
maybe the problem is grouping Asperger's with ASD in general. only then I buy your skepticism, but that is a problem with DSM-V categorizations if anything. but the idea that there was never a genius with at least Asperger's is ridiculous when you look at the evidence.

>>24527050
>the idea that there was never a genius with at least Asperger's is ridiculous when you look at the evidence.
so this is your cope for being diagnosed with a developmental disorder? there must have been at least one aspergers genius in history? i mean ok

>>24527083
Well, the argument is that the evidence clearly shows commonly-accepted genius as having substantial symptoms of Asperger's. You can attack the messenger all you want. But the evidence speaks for itself.

>>24527012
maybe tony attwood's books. not many though.

>>24526936
if you've actually read it you'd know it's nearly every page. i'm not digging my copy out for that.

my take is that you're not going to learn much from any book about autism. either you're of the retarded variety, in which case you probably can't even read, or you're of the 'high-functioning' sort, in which case it will be all too general to apply to your own case. you're better off keeping a journal and trying to understand yourself on your own terms.

>>24527050
>>24527112
Same logic that people on here apply to social stunted individuals they see, instantly talking about how they clearly have autism. Obsessive interests, difficulty in social relationships, and problems communicating is what most recluses have. And the geniuses who dedicated their lives to their crafts are instantly called autistic with absolutely zero scientific evidence (still waiting for that modern day autistic genius to pop up).

>Geeks, Genes, and the Evolution of Asperger Syndrome

>>24527165
>Falk's theories, although highly speculative (as she herself admits), are logical and intriguing. My only major point of contention with Falk's central hypothesis is that it assumes, without caveat or much explanation, that the genetic variants that contribute to AS and HFA confer specific cognitive strengths that were, and continue to be, adaptive and selected for in human evolution. While repetitive behaviors, narrow, specific interests, and sociobehavioral impairments are well-defined characteristics of ASD, including AS and HFA, evidence for enhanced abilities in specific cognitive domains is currently more anecdotal than scientific, and the proportion of AS and HFA individuals that possess these traits is unknown. Furthermore, the evo–devo trends Falk links to AS are true of ASD more generally, and recent data from the CDC estimates that roughly 30% of individuals with ASD are intellectually disabled. The significance of this cannot be ignored, as intellectual disability only occurs in ~1% of the general population. Perhaps a more plausible, if less exciting, evolutionary explanation for the emergence of ASD is an increasing tolerance for genomic variation in regions underlying brain development and function in humans, which would be necessary for rapid brain evolution, but would also greatly increase vulnerability to neurodevelopmental disorders.

>>24527147
There are plenty of autistic geniuses today. Silicon Valley was built by them. Geniuses are simply less impressive by today's standards because all the low-hanging fruit is gone and there's a lot of ideologically-motivated attacks on the validity of their work.

I'd be more interested to learn about ADHD. While autism is clearly real, ADHD doesn't convince me.

>>24527210
adhd is just from people giving their kids neon colored sugar cereal for breakfast before school

>>24526766 (OP)
Look up crowd psychology. Because herding us is like herding cats people are naturally resentful of those who don't sit around discussing men chasing balls in tights or obsessing over celebrities.

>>24526766 (OP)
Actual diagnosed aspy here. By top two books on the subject are “The essential difference” by Simon Baron Cohen and “Reframing your thinking around autism” by Holly Bridges. The books produced by the group Asperger experts are also good but they are self help books for people with Aspergers and not for just learning about the condition. “The Master and His Emissary” by Iain Mcgilchrist isn’t about autism explicitly but it’s frame of right and left brain thinking is very helpful for understanding autistic thought and perspective. It’s also just a very good book in general.

Some other more academic books I would recommend would be the following
>The Neuroscience of Autism Spectrum Disorders (get the 2022 edition if you can)
>the molecular basis of autism
>the polyvagal theory by Stephen Porges
>pic related

>>24526766 (OP)
>Good psychology books about autism/asperger?
Are there good books about raping male lions until they leave?

>>24527233
>normie culture bad!
sure, but if i say anime sucks ass watch a bunch of you nerds jump all over me

>>24527190
I give up arguing. Doesn't matter how many times you prove somebody wrong there's always a new cope that solely relies on vague statement and lack of empirical data (and doesn't even try to disprove the previous statement made). Good luck in life or something

>>24526771
Refrigerator mother theory.
And you're wrong. Mothers are inherently evil.

Imagine you are one of those brilliant narrow-focused super-autists, who can know everything about a subject and you focus specifically on Star Wars. Yes, you could have been a science major, but in staid you annoy people on wikipedia by writing obscure articles, about this one dirt miner called y'lek'i who lives on dukadukachakchak, who appeared in three comics, a 90's novel and a old star wars MUD game from 1994. What do you mean, irrelevant, it's like le heckin' Star Wars.

>>24527242
I could say the exact same thing about you. Except, I've actually cited examples of geniuses who had shown clear signs of Asperger's, and all you've done in return is sling insults. Maybe your position is just a cope for your inferiority complex towards smart spergs, and you have no rational basis to explain it.

>>24527242
All this really boils down to is the appearance vs. reality, symptoms vs. etiology, etc. And your rhetorical strategy boils down to "well, those cases have all the symptoms, but they're just *recluses* (or some other explanation), and they were not actually autistic." Aren't we putting the cart before the horse (for example, why were they recluses?). This is not a productive way to argue, and it is emblematic of shill speak. You can always "explain away" any counterexample by appealing to some magical factor (or non-existence of said factor) that makes the difference between two similarly-presenting cases. But where would be the logic in that? You lose credibility, especially when that is your knee-jerk reaction to each case.

>>24526778
I like Temple Grandin's writing. I read "Animals Make Us Human" which is primarily about animal behavior but had nuggets of her experience with her own autism and others'. She's clear and to the point while describing otherwise nebulous topics like internal experience and meaning-making.

>>24527235
Thanks buddy

>>24527235
so how would you rate/describe your life as an aspie? were you successful in studies/work?

>>24530126
I would rate it badly. I am a total failure. No skills, can’t do anything real, no prospects, nothing to live for. I would have a horrible life right now if I were not lucky enough to have a father that makes decent money that allows me to still live with him. For most autism/Asperger’s is a considerable net negative on their quality of life and anyone who says otherwise is a fraud trying to push an agenda. After my father is no longer able to work I am going to fall into wage slaving poverty and then live a terrible life and then probably die a terrible or pitiful death alone with nothing to show for my existence.

>>24530126
I was expelled from school and then did time in juvies for arson.

>>24530166
okay thanks for sharing. stay strong

>>24528328
>mothers are inherently evil
Any books about this?

we sigmas out here
biding our time.

>>24530324
NTA but my mother almost took me to a retard school because some bitch at a children's hospital, based solely on a caustic emotional outburst I had with my mother at the time, declared I was an aspie. So yeah, I think I'm morally in the right for wanting to cave her face in with my fists.

>>24530126
NTA, but I wanted to say that it can be difficult separating your autism from the rest of your personality. I'm a lazy, impotent person, but I feel that I would be quite similar without autism. I do have multiple non-autistic siblings whom I share negative traits with which leads me to believe that I would be similarly fucked without it though. A lot of people told me I was very smart as a kid (like 5-12), and I did well in early grade school, so maybe that was a benefit? Like the other anon, I would view Autism as a net-negative on my life.

>>24530126
Another diagnosed Aspie here, I’m cursed to be able to mask well enough to bang stacies but not date them, and I can hold a job for about three months before I become utterly apathetic to everything and everyone.
However, I’m a NEET with inherited land and money, and spend very little so I am indeed comfy.