Thread 24533585 - /lit/ [Archived: 338 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:45:02 AM No.24533585
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I wish I wasn't born in this 3rd world shithole. I feel so much isolation here I can't even describe. There is no one to talk to about books, most people are stuck in their colonial hangover of suppressing each other. Everyone is trying to outbeat others to get to that perfect sum of money and power. The culture is lost somewhere rotting in a place obvious to everyone but nobody cares enough to rescue it. Even when I go to book club of my university the conversations doesn't go beyond Alchemist and other pop books. There are just empty libraries here where people go not to study but the maximize their skills for next big thing that will emerge from the leftovers of new technological innovation. Families are way to exploit each other mentally, socially and sexually while thinking sticking together will preserve their heritage. All their talks are inherently without any meaning using jargons they don't believe about topics they don't care while imagining how they will win this game. I just watch smoking another ciggrate looking for something I never had
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:46:00 AM No.24533587
>>24533585 (OP)
Yea india sucks
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:48:10 AM No.24533682
I live in Africa and everyday I make love to my 100kg wife and survey my herds. The sun is very big when it comes up and I smile greatly when the light washes the night away. The milk is warm and I come back in the evening smelling like earth and milk and sweat and I make love to my 105kg wife. If nothing else, be thankful for living a life is a different kind. On Fridays I drink spiced rum at the tavern and make up names for my friends, names like I do my cows. Yes our country has problems. But our country has liberty of an order rare in this modern world.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:48:48 AM No.24533685
You think it's any better in the West?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:59:39 AM No.24533702
>>24533682
what's your country, larping retard?
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:02:15 PM No.24533706
>>24533585 (OP)
I was like this like 10 years ago, you will outgrow it and probably do better at life, life is about to throw some stuff at you that you will leave this mindset that is living in your head so much. You clearly see things differently from your contemporaries, many have felt this way, you sound promising keep at it
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:19:48 PM No.24533743
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>>24533585 (OP)
Colonial mimicry has destroyed the case of a stable subject here. Trying to be like them, mimic them is a perversion widespread. Not having Intellectual foundations or cultural of western world that builds and stablizes it's citizens has caused the creation of a bastard child. The citizen of shithole like mine is victum of degenrecy but also perpetrators of degenrecy. Lack of Intellectual cultural bases has created a fragmented subject, it's primitive values still intact trying to game the neo crony system (crony itself product of it) and the fragmented subject operating never as a whole but as spilit cases. I search for my own whole to see if there is one but there isn't any tape to hold them together anyway so I smoke another ciggrate and just stare
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:34:35 PM No.24533777
>>24533743
n/3
It baffles me how I will never get the stories of greeks,the fall of rome, Shakespeare naturally. No matter how much you learn other culture's language the clues,the context, the memory you won't ever be able to fully grasp and there will always be a gap. So I searched for my own roots to look up to my own heros,myths and legends but I couldn't grap them either. How they thought, why they thought, what they did on a surface level I could get that but looking at them it still didn't felt natural. Perhaps those roots are also long cut because of the huge gap in writting in this nation.Even they live in same incoherence hating western world while dreaming to go there, denouncing their family values while raping their own family members. Even my own Claiming about love's beauty while forcing me to marry some businesses guy daughter, all to get that additional cash and influence. This incoherence plagues my everyday life as I find myself more alone looking for those roots which were lost
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 12:41:42 PM No.24533788
>>24533585 (OP)
Welcome to America
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 3:48:47 PM No.24534060
Yo también comparto las mismas sensaciones de soledad en cuanto a mis gustos literarios, y de consumo en general.
No creo que tenga que ver con el nivel de clase social que tengan las personas, o incluso el país. Creo que simplemente debes pulir tus habilidades sociales y tratar de contactar con más gente con tus gustos particulares. Y si no puedes, pues simplemente aprende a estar solo. También tienes que trabajar la fortaleza y la templanza para poder superar adversidades por ti mismo, porque no siempre habrá otros para darte una mano o ayudarte.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:02:15 PM No.24534083
>>24534060
Eu também compartilho as mesmas sensações de solidão em relação aos meus gostos literários e de consumo em geral.
Não acho que isso tenha a ver com o nível de classe social das pessoas, ou mesmo com o país. Acho que simplesmente é preciso lapidar suas habilidades sociais e tentar se conectar com mais gente que compartilhe desses gostos particulares.
E se não conseguir, então aprenda a estar só.
Você também precisa trabalhar sua força interior e sua temperança para conseguir superar as adversidades por conta própria, porque nem sempre haverá alguém para te estender a mão ou te ajudar.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 4:33:52 PM No.24534129
>>24533585 (OP)
Yeah Vietnam sucks, I was born too late to be a shy conservative Confucious gentleman, and too soon to witness the end of humanity, but just in time to see the bastsrd child which is Vietnamese post-modern culture
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Evans
7/9/2025, 4:44:48 PM No.24534150
>>24533585 (OP)
Sounds interesing. Write a book about it all.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:19:41 PM No.24535099
>>24533585 (OP)
I love living in a 3rd world shithole because it's relatively easy to cheat and evade the law and nobody cares if you are politically correct. Also other countries don't really give a shit about us so they mostly leave us alone.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:21:09 PM No.24535105
>>24533585 (OP)
Sounds like S Korea
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:45:57 PM No.24535186
>>24534083
Falou tudo
meus amigos não leem nada, e poucas vezes consigo dividir meus outros interesses com eles
nem por isso sinto menos vontade de me entregar à apreciação artística como experiência pessoal
a solidão é algo a que se acostuma nesse sentido. Nem toda experiência precisa ser compartilhada, expecialmente a leitura, que sempre foi uma atividade extremamente intimista e solitária
não faltam foruns e ambientes online pra pesquisar mais sobre livros, se for o caso
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:15:38 PM No.24535290
>>24533777
If it makes you feel any better anon I was born in a western country to immigrant parents, yet feel like everything you wrote here applies to me too. No matter how much I learn and study the classics and mythology and the history of this country I know it'll never truly be mine and it really depresses me. I'm genuinely interested in all this stuff but sometimes I feel like I'm just LARPing or something. It doesn't help that I absolutely loathe my parents' culture and religion, meaning I don't have that to fall back on either. Not that there's much left there anyway, Islam wiped it out and now they all LARP as Arabs despite being seen as subhumans by Arabs. Idk really, too brownskinned to be white, too whitewashed to be brown. I have no roots and no sense of identity. But hey, at least there's more immigrants coming to fuck up the reputation of brown people even more. Feel like an unwelcome guest in my own fucking country just because of how I look.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:17:58 PM No.24535296
>>24533682
Even though you're a racist white incel you managed to write something beautiful. Godspeed Sirro
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:20:15 PM No.24535307
>>24533777
>>24535290
Though your day to day life may be shittier than that of white people, it won't do to characterize whites as being somehow innately gifted with all these ideas and culture. In secular modernity we are all radically deracinated, and what you apply yourself to learn with enough fervor and love will become a part of you and make you western in truth, no matter who your parents were.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:25:37 AM No.24535529
>>24535105
basado
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:29:17 AM No.24535537
>>24533585 (OP)
Yeah I'm from New Jersey too anon. We'll make it out someday god willing
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:32:04 AM No.24535544
>>24533585 (OP)
You think the average person in the west has remarkable knowledge about literature? lmao
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 12:38:47 AM No.24535563
>>24533585 (OP)
Doesn't your thirdie shithole have a elite class? I live in a third world shithole too and while they would of course never accept me as one of their own most of the time they are happy to discuss and debate great literature. You just have to know the right people.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 1:06:27 AM No.24535652
>>24535563
>elite class
>happy to discuss and debate great literature
NTA but I don't think the elite, western or otherwise, care about literature anymore. The richest man on the planet spends his time shitposting on Twitter. And anyway, even if some of them did care--prestigious, old money types maybe--most of us aren't going to be running into them any time soon.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 3:56:34 AM No.24536082
>>24533682
Actually nice
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:16:46 AM No.24536117
>>24535563
Don't know about other countries, but the riches in Vietnam are either just like some middle class American liberal (maybe this applies to their children more), or a full-on corrupted alcohol addict whatever communist official. It's grim. Those who are interested in cultural-historical stuff are ultra-nationalistic faggots - bootlicker of the State, called 'red bulls' like that of China, and only care about some collonialism history bullshit. There are, as you say, more 'Western' mind, smarter ones, but they are extremely rare (I have met only one).
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:22:45 AM No.24536136
>>24535563
They are too busy trying to go to west, all their talks without any weight. They are hollow caricatures trying to escape their own shithole while I don't wanna go anywhere else. People always say you should try to leave this place but the spectres of my own culture, How can I even escape? So I will stay in this shithole searching for some meaning while I can
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:26:46 AM No.24536143
>>24536136
n/5
The purpose of a third worlder is to escape his situation. This can be done temporarily through creation of gated societies that separates them from barbaric citizens or through escaping to the other countries. After this The Third world becomes their pride, a great cultural entity to look at. It's just that they want to be outside to it to be proud of it.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:32:36 AM No.24536150
>>24536117
when did vietnam become so cucked? you guys won the war.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:24:44 AM No.24536340
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>>24533585 (OP)
I feel you, anon. The pic is from a documentary about my country. The worst part is undoubtedly the widespread ignorance and laziness. On every level of society, in every interaction, day after day, the entropy is almost palpable. After a while, you just stop caring because nothing works and no one has any interest in fixing it. People here are like water; they will always follow the path of least resistance, even if it leads to a stagnant pool. Culture, governance, and religion all inevitably bow to the blind idiot god of apathy. Even Satan falls to sloth here. At least if we had pride, someone might have done something by now. Sometimes the frustration reaches a boiling point, and I wish I could do something, anything. But in the end, futility raises her hand, and I can only obey and retire in silence. It's a sad reality when failure seems as natural as gravity
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:41:01 AM No.24536469
>>24536340
south america or south africa
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:28:47 AM No.24536571
>>24536469
Belize. Imagine Brazil, but infinitely smaller and colonized by the British instead of the Portuguese. Vice did a documentary about the gangs here (we're too stupid and lazy to have cartels). I'd suggest you watch that documentary if you want to ingest just a fraction of the infinite blackpill that I must regrettably swallow every day here.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:15:12 AM No.24536626
>>24536571
i've watched mad dogs, the american version set in belize,
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:17:36 AM No.24536630
>>24536150
It doesnt mean anything. At least, if the southern regime had won, there would at the very least remained some aspect of pre-1945 Confuciousnism in our language and culture. But alas, the communist wins, and what is left of Vietnam after the cultural cleanse (similar to that of China) is a mutant of boshelvism and poor fags' amorality. After the war with the US, that just got worse. In the recent times, it became a troglodite of American liberalism, Vietnamese-Chinese chauvinism and poorfags' pure evilness.
FYI for anyone, ANYONE, who has a slight interest in Vietnamese literature: Search up "Nhân Văn Giai Phẩm" 人文佳品, basically Vietnamese authors publishing lit works to protest agaisnt the communist regime's censorship and directioning of ideology ("disturbed the undisturbed" for example), and they got btfo by the govs and Ho Chi Minh. Since then, this hellhole's literature had turned into shit.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:00:35 AM No.24536665
>>24533585 (OP)
I wish it was the 60s I wish we could be happy
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:09:45 AM No.24536675
>>24533682
Yes, fourth world is superior to the third as long as you can avoid nightmare mode. Not what OP is talking about.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 10:44:58 AM No.24536739
>>24533585 (OP)
I'm a South African, not afrikaner or bantu, too ashamed to announce my identity, because it's it's a mish mash of everything from holland to the greater cape to batavia. I am the mixed mutt, the /pol/tard fears. I feel what you're feeling in every possible way, life before 2013 was alright, good even. But has been spiraling since then. The number one detriment to my self-progression, have been family. Drunks, methhead thieves, elitist snobs, backwards with old school mentalities. Half of your family are leaches, the other half refuse to help you without a loan of any sort with interest. I'm planning to escape into another province next year, just so I can hear myself breathe. I raged quit digital art in 2021/22 because GAN's scared the fuck out of me, and now look at the state of art. Mass produced, synthetic slop.

I see no stable future for myself in this country. Everything seems to worsen by the year, the jews seem intent on punishing us for anti semitic, stances. The only solution to fixing shit hole countries like us, is fascism, derived of the "international" influence.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 11:28:58 AM No.24536796
>>24536739
are you coloured? why are you guys so violent, or why do you have a violent stereotype?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:34:24 PM No.24537079
>>24533585 (OP)
at least you aren't from kazakhstan like I am
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:38:12 PM No.24537089
>>24533585 (OP)
The first world is just as v retarded. There's just a fresh coat of paint on everything.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:43:58 PM No.24537091
>>24536117
>a full-on corrupted alcohol addict whatever communist official
Sounds like peak /lit/ crowd.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:52:23 PM No.24537101
>>24536796
Because, unfortunately, my "people" are genuinely retarded. It's a not socio-economic issue, it's a cultural mindset, raised on the fact that the first/rich world owes you everything for the position you are in, strongman takes what he wants from whoever. I wouldn't even chalk it up to genetics, which is already mixed bag. Some folks are indeed genetically predisposed to commit crime, but, not everyone is like that. I am certainly not. The violent stereotype you see, stems from the cape flats, which is a drug fueled, warzone made by various political factors. Honestly, I genuinely don't even know. Just two weeks ago, I had to stop a drunk from beating a kid over the head with a bottle.

I'd be the first to sign up for criminal purge, gun in hand, and make all the degenerates face the wall. Unfortunately, the "Ubuntu" government won't approve of such a thing.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 2:53:17 PM No.24537104
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>>24533682
VGH... We need to retvrn.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 3:34:12 PM No.24537196
>>24537101
aren't zulus as violent? when you say you want to leave the province, i know you guys have very thick accents, is sa so stratified that you can't thrive when you move away from your cultural cocoons
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 3:40:42 PM No.24537211
>>24533585 (OP)
>There is no one to talk to about books
Is there any country where this is the exception?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 3:55:47 PM No.24537234
>>24533585 (OP)
I feel ya, OP. Over here there's a crabs in a bucket mentality where if you try to expand your horizons (which usually means learning English since it opens a lot of doors) they'll literally consider you a race traitor or clown on you. Anyone who reads here is either capeshit graphic "novels" or like you said, pop lit. Nobody cares. Our music is incredibly degenerate (and not to mention, sonically trash) and if you disavow it, you are again a traitor of the nation.

The only constant I can think of is that the women are as dumb here as they are anywhere. God, women are so fucking dumb it's not even funny anymore. The only upside is that even with feminism, a lot of gals over here at least unwittingly are still a bit traditional in how they approach loyalty and relationships. Not all of them but enough to not make you get blackpilled.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 3:56:35 PM No.24537236
>>24535290
Hating your own culture is immature. There are bad parts to all of them. None of us here like most parts of modern American culture. Find the good.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 3:59:21 PM No.24537239
>>24533585 (OP)
But enough about Birmingham, UK
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:00:54 PM No.24537240
>>24533682
Where does browsing lit figure into the fold cromagnanon?
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:06:49 PM No.24537253
>>24537234
It's like that in most places of poverty I think. The American South is like that. If you aim to go to college or leave the town that has literally no jobs beyond grocery cashier, you're derided by many.
Sa
7/10/2025, 4:08:08 PM No.24537258
A lot of 3rd world countries have a better society than the west. There is more happiness and more family orientation. The only fear is hunger but if you have enough then you should be happy
Also, the west has also a terrible problem with loneliness so you’re one of us now
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:13:54 PM No.24537268
>>24537196
As violent? No. They're horrifically worse. Ritual killings, protest sperging, taxi mafias. They are a warrior group, and to an extent, so are the Xhosas(they are more of a pastoral group). I think that's the problem with a lot of post-colonial nations, you have major groups coming from warrior societies, and then you ask them to integrate into Western ideals. They just don't or it takes a millenium, ethiopia doesn't have the same raging nigger problem.

The Northern Cape is the chillest. It's where I wanna go isolated, quiet, and cheap. No loud darkskins hassling you for the equivalent of 1/15th a US dollar. No meth-addled cobra surfing in your toilet at 3 a.m.

Stratified? On the surface, people would label it 'unity under diversity,' i.e. Rainbow Nation. Problem is, you have 11 different languages in the country from 12-15 different ethnicities. Moving away is naturally challenging. Different cultural boundaries—in some places, you might be the outsider, literally unable to communicate with the guy next door. Thank God for those inbred English royalists. Just kindly waiting for Balkanization, well at least the Chinese are moving in.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:20:12 PM No.24537278
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>>24537258
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:23:27 PM No.24537285
>>24534129
chao anh ban
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 4:45:53 PM No.24537314
>>24536739
Mzanzi is the greatest and worst country in the world. This spectrum, its diversity of people and landscape, its blatancy of corruption and possibility, also makes it the most honest of all. Many times people born these have moved away, many times have they found themselves missing home. There is nothing that any other country has that SA does not have, somewhere in its borders. It's a country of miracles. Miracle that there was no civil war. Miracle that the state was not captured fifty years ago. The cities, yes, are petulant and lethal. But the countryside is full of an openness and clarity that is unmatched in all the world. There are still nukes beneath Silvermine.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:16:25 PM No.24537367
Vietnamese chud here. This whole thread really reads like a bunch of fart sniffers and pseuds yearning for some imaginary postmodern utopia that never existed. It’s like there’s this longing for a world where philosophers and aristocrats still define the zeitgeist, but that era is long gone. Every modern cultural wave, and whatever follows, will eventually be subverted, hollowed out. That’s just the cycle.

At some point, you have to drop the “I'm so much smarter than anyone in this shithole”. It’s tired. No society is ever going to be fully aligned in ideals or inner values. That kind of coherence just doesn’t exist in human nature.

There’s more to life than LARPING as a reddit cornball. Building relationships, and shaping your own personal trajectory. That’s where meaning comes from, not from detached cynicism or whatever ego stroking delusion.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:46:55 PM No.24537672
>>24537367
>but that era is long gone
There was no such era, the world has always been a cesspit of normies. You guys need to read the Greeks more deeply.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:56:42 AM No.24539213
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>>24533585 (OP)
For me it's Tangier.
Will we ever have it as good again bros?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:05:17 AM No.24539244
>>24539213
i recognize burroughs and ginsberg
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:08:47 AM No.24539259
>>24533682
based
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:10:44 AM No.24539265
>>24539244
the only other person of note is Corso
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:02:30 PM No.24540270
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>>24533682
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 3:03:56 PM No.24540277
>>24534129
>shy conservative Confucious gentleman
whats that
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 4:54:19 PM No.24540464
>>24533682
Why did you skip the part where only 1 in 10 children make it past age 8
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:10:33 PM No.24540493
>>24537091
If only.
Unironically the smartest Vietnamese goy I have ever met is stupider than the dumbest lit poster. Lit is shit, but this is my home. Other corner of the Vietnamese internet are just full of celebrity gossips or mundane shit like anime and whatever the shitlib zoomer on Tiktok consumes on a daily basis.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:20:09 PM No.24540512
>>24540277
Something about European women during the early 20th century saying that the Vietnamese men, who was still raised under Confucious-related literature and ethics, but 'woke' enough to start adopting Western ideas of Kant and the likes, were 'shy conservative men' of the Far East - comparing that to the more outward men of the Anglosphere and the US; thus, these women find those men interesting. Like manga yankees teasing shy nerds (me)
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 5:23:00 PM No.24540523
>>24537367
This nigger graduated from Reddit uni. Shut the fuck up you stupid shit nigger fakecel. Can't even long for a better world anymore without these stupid niggers acting all tough and "pragmatic". Hope you're born without an anus in the after life, anon.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 6:03:31 PM No.24540627
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>>24540523
This all reeks of you acting like angsty teenagers who are mad at the world.

Until you can meet idealism with realism, you'll stay the same joy allergic, bitter sack of shit.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 7:52:07 PM No.24540879
>>24540493

How do the natives back home feel about their golden child, Viet Thanh Nguyen and his award winning, The Sympathizer?
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:18:18 PM No.24541083
>>24533682
Okonkwo...
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:25:52 PM No.24541112
>>24541083
okay but seriously, how good was things fall apart? Like disregarding Achebe's voices of Africa essay and all the chimping out about heart of darkness, TFA really made me feel something.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:09:25 PM No.24541394
>>24533777
>>24535290
I'm Black American and I can relate to these posts, as well as many of the other posts by anons from the Third World. We are but a footnote in the grand narrative that is the West. To separate ourselves from that story, we separate ourselves from greatness. To become "Western" is an act of treason, but to deny the West's greatness is an act of delusion. We fear, in acknowledging their success, we affirm our own inferiority. But can we not acknowledge the objectiveness of their successes? Would Newton's laws be any different if they were Jackson's laws? Would the steam engine work any differently if it were invented by a Wang rather than a Watt? We deny ourselves the lessons of Western history, forgetting that those they once themselves were daunted by the achievements of their persecutors. Where would Britain, France, or Germany be without Greek philosophy and Roman law? We forget that before Napoleon was Napoleon, he wanted to be Julius, not just Charlemagne. Why must we be gatekept from Western excellence, when they never gatekept themselves? The White man is not ashamed of his numerals coming from Arabia, his religion from Judea, his calendar from Egypt, and his firearm from China—so why should we be ashamed? To become Western is to become great, and to become great is not to do something first, but to do it best.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:13:22 AM No.24541587
>>24533585 (OP)
Receive my digital hug
https://youtu.be/NDp1F2atGUg?feature=shared
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:20:35 AM No.24541613
>>24541394
>To become Western is to become great
You have drawn the wrong conclusion. The East is also great and becoming greater. Greatness has little to do with culture but almost entirely is due to geographic accidents and other accidents of history.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:30:15 AM No.24541643
>>24535290
>>24541394
This is a way in which leftists are right. You are still fundamentally a human, which makes you have something in common with everyone else. A cosmopolitan city might actually be a thing for you
Heritage is important, and diverse, distinct cultures have brought forth the grandest things yet. But maybe we can achieve the best if we focus on the fundamental human experience and create from that. In the modernity, the inevitable globalization + seperation of cultures brings more and more pain. The age of the tribe is dying. Humanity now has the choice to grow together and unite in its similarites, or to break apart on its differences.
This is how some of (((them))), at least the non-pedophile part, think. To create a united humanity with no races, no distinct cultures. It would remove countless obstacles and would enable humanity to advance as a whole. The biggest challenge facing that project is now is that the unification orients itself by the lower thirdie instead of the higher firstie standards. Also jews wanting to be a bit more equal than the others.
The only alternatives are a) we stay tribal and regress to WW1-time lifestyle at best, more likely pre-industrial, or b) total world genocide coming from one race. Morally ambiguous, to put it lightly.
>>24535307
This. Shape your own identity, by your morality and what you do. And act out of love.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:31:47 AM No.24541648
>>24533585 (OP)
>I wish I wasn't born in this 3rd world shithole. I feel so much isolation here I can't even describe. There is no one to talk to about books, most people are stuck in their colonial hangover of suppressing each other. Everyone is trying to outbeat others to get to that perfect sum of money and power. The culture is lost somewhere rotting in a place obvious to everyone but nobody cares enough to rescue it. Even when I go to book club of my university the conversations doesn't go beyond Alchemist and other pop books. There are just empty libraries here where people go not to study but the maximize their skills for next big thing that will emerge from the leftovers of new technological innovation. Families are way to exploit each other mentally, socially and sexually while thinking sticking together will preserve their heritage. All their talks are inherently without any meaning using jargons they don't believe about topics they don't care while imagining how they will win this game. I just watch smoking another ciggrate looking for something I never had
I'm so sorry you moved to the USA.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:32:19 AM No.24541649
>>24534060
Simplemente basado
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:37:35 AM No.24541657
>>24541394
if you're american you're western own it
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:38:26 AM No.24541658
>>24535290
I feel ya. I love my country and nation and it has a lot of potential but absolutely hate the absolute degeneracy that is lauded as art and the celebration of sub iq activities. I absolutely love western mythology and the western canon. Nothing has spoken to me so deeply as that. But I, as you, feel like I'm LARPing sometimes despite me techincally having European descent in me (my heritage goes back to Spanish and German but it's obviously mutted at this point). I'm basically a race traitor for all intents and purposes, as all my art is also written in English (despite my country having a prominent use of English). I feel ya 100%. I wish I could say with all confidence that my country is great (because in some ways, it really is) but holy fuck, our "art" in general is pretty garbage.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:47:14 AM No.24541679
Benozzo_Gozzoli,_Pletone,_Cappella_dei_Magi
Benozzo_Gozzoli,_Pletone,_Cappella_dei_Magi
md5: 8db75d8affd8fd5e4d9c0a5a7fc5bbc9🔍
>>24533585 (OP)
for me it's growing up in first world feminist retardation
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:52:14 AM No.24541693
1735262321595329
1735262321595329
md5: a87a35f20c5be05005129c310eb634fd🔍
>he thinks it's any different in post-smartphones, population-collapsing first world
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:55:47 AM No.24541702
>>24540512
just sounds like french whores eyeing the next colonized dick they can hop on desu
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 3:23:31 AM No.24542001
>>24540627
A whole lot of projection. "You don't understand CHUD! Either you ACCEPT this shitty world or you are a CHILD, because, uh... Because you're naive! You cannot be angry because the world could be better! Be a Pragmatic Goy and keep tolerating the World! Also try to mimic the niggers and Jews, it's worth it anon, you will grow up eventually."
Fuck off pseud.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 6:47:34 AM No.24542376
the whole dichotomy of 1st world-3rd world is degenerate and formed by the advent of industrialism.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 6:49:44 AM No.24542382
>>24535652
>musk
>elite
LOL
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 6:54:39 AM No.24542391
>>24542382
>ivy league education
>richest man on the planet
>was in the president's innercircle
yeah if only he were like some family of failsons on long island whose great grandfather founded a chain of hardware stores in the 20s, now that's elite!
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 7:27:20 AM No.24542452
>>24533585 (OP)
Why did you have to describe Estonia in such a laconic way?
It feels as if you're my neighbour, living here, in this epitome of Gnostice hellhole, somewhere, alienated, alone, wondering if there's a way out or if there's a glint of light, of true love, of true consciousness, withing the hellish dried fecal folds of the Estonia and it's excremental soulless golems, both Russian and Estonian.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:03:40 AM No.24542502
>>24537211
(Used to be more) France but they’ve made their insularity a way of life there and have deliberately erected barriers against the Anglosphere and that includes the Anglo internet world. Based on its own way but they’re playing directly into the stereotype of being world class insufferable snobs. One can be cultured sure but they’re not gentlemen about it
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:22:14 AM No.24542751
1708240346376326
1708240346376326
md5: 8423f36fe145e2fde71d0cf61a153cc7🔍
Pakistani chud here. All of you third world moaners need to kill yourselves for not recognizing the opportunities. It's great that those normalfaggots are dumb as shit now you have the perfect chance to conquer that space. Oh and if you're so better then those plebs then WRITE A FUCKING BOOK faggots. Do something creative and finish it for once no matter how small. Das rite you fucking can't. You're a scared pussy. You're scared to meet other people, you're scared to make your own shit, you're scared to make connections and you're even scared to say this shit in real life. I reuse to believe that there are no classics loving chuds in millions of people. Use social media, join facebook literary groups, go to literary gatherings, go to book publishing events, go to book reading events, go talk with your professors, go to book festivals, go to seminars, just talk to people you fucking pussy. Eventually you'll find people. And if you are not intelligent enough to hide you chudness while you go out there to touch grass then you are really stupid and those normalfags are really better.

Chuds in the past said "oh I don't like this shit so I'll make my own". All of you are defeatist miserable scum and I am sick of this trash. I think you can fight sickness only by creating good works of art. Fucking everyone in 3rd world have these cliche "oh look things sucks" moany conversations, yes even the noramlfaggots that you despise but no one bothers to make shit as a response to them. So how you are any better?
>"NOOOOOOOOO I HECKIN CAN"T DO THIS TOUCHING GRASS AND NORMALFAGGOTS SCARY"
People of your age in the past use to conquer other countries and here you can't make a place in literary world, lol, lmao even.

Lastly there is no "collective" redemption. But you're too far gone to be saved. Failed normalfaggots, all dumb as shit.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:48:35 AM No.24542785
>>24542751
>Pakistani chud here
I burst into tears
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:28:19 PM No.24542847
>>24542751
you are suffering from a utilitarian hangover pervading in most post colonial societies. There is no solution of internal contradictions through pretending to be doing something. And most literary festivals are about consumeslop in Pakistan don't bother, The issue of op can't be resolved because he is walking contradiction desiring for a culture or people in nostalgic way who never existed in the first place
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:38:23 PM No.24542853
>>24542847
>>you are suffering from a utilitarian hangover pervading in most post colonial societies.
what does this even mean? being a miserable, alienating yourself, smoking cigarettes and rotting in your room is better than making art? how making art is "utilitarian" or whatever the fuck when you know that things are already rotten.

>There is no solution of internal contradictions through pretending to be doing something.
which contradiction? stop thinking like you're the savior carrying whole weight of the country upon your shoulders and think about your likes and dislikes and what you want to do. collectivism is a sickness.

>And most literary festivals are about consumeslop in Pakistan don't bother
no true at all. consoomslop is there but a lot of "high art" is also there. you just need to open your eyes and look for books in urdu and punjabi. and if you go to readings, they have western classics of all sorts. where are you from btw?
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:53:16 PM No.24542880
>>24542853
>which contradiction? stop thinking like you're the savior carrying whole weight of the country upon your shoulders and think about your likes and dislikes and what you want to do. collectivism is a sickness.
this