>STOP READING FOR ESCAPISM AND GROW THE HELL UP!
Your response?

>>24538259 (OP)
"You're a slave. What you say has zero value to me."

>>24538259 (OP)
So glad I never fell for this guys shtick lmao.

>And be like you? No thanks.

>>24538259 (OP)
The funniest thing about his creepy, self-help-but-a-tough-guy schtick is, the first thing a man should really do to "grow up" and a "be a man" etc is, is to disregard anything someone who looks like that says
The dichotomy is wild to me, he lectures people about being grown ups, said people are willing to unquestioningly do what a stranger on a youtube video says, are, by definition, not adults yet

Define "grow up".

>>24538259 (OP)
It is precisely because I have grown up that I feel the need for escapism. If you're happy and content with the way the world is, you are not an adult, you're an ignorant child.

>>24538385
Work yourself to death to make your jewish masters richer.

>>24538385
Work a job, marry and have children.

>>24538262
You are an easily manipulated slave too you know, you are literally spreading memes and ideas that are not your own for free

>>24538392
Have been reading Stoner for the past 3 hours, stopped at the chapter 11
>He had come to that moment in his age when there occurred to him, with increasing intensity, a question of such overwhelming simplicity that he had no means to face it. He found himself wondering if his life were worth the living; if it had ever been.
And the next paragraph is
>It was winter, and a snow had fallen during the day, so that the out-of-doors was covered with a white softness. The office was overheated; he opened a window beside the desk so that the cool air might come into the close room. He breathed deeply, and let his eyes wander over the white floor of the campus. On an impulse he switched out the light on his desk and sat in the hot darkness of his office; the cold air filled his lungs, and he leaned toward the open window. He heard the silence of the winter night, and it seemed to him that he somehow felt the sounds that were absorbed by the delicate and intricately cellular being of the snow. Nothing moved upon the whiteness; it was a dead scene, which seemed to pull at him, to suck at his consciousness just as it pulled the sound from the air and buried it within a cold white softness. He felt himself pulled outward toward the whiteness, which spread as far as he could see, and which was a part of the darkness from which it glowed, of the clear and cloudless sky without height or depth. For an instant he felt himself go out of the body that sat motionless before the window; and as he felt himself slip away, everything—the flat whiteness, the trees, the tall columns, the night, the far stars—seemed incredibly tiny and far away, as if they were dwindling to a nothingness. Then, behind him, a radiator clanked. He moved, and the scene became itself. With a curiously reluctant relief he again snapped on his desk lamp. He gathered a book and a few papers, went out of the office, walked through the darkened corridors, and let himself out of the wide double doors at the back of Jesse Hall. He walked slowly home, aware of each footstep crunching with muffled loudness in the dry snow.
So yeah, I wouldn't mind some escapism

>>24538346

Why can I hear this image?

>>24538419

>>24538392
>I feel the need for escapism
That's because youre not very creative. Use that nogging of Yours

>>24538478
I don't answer to anyone and I don't have handlers or bosses like Jordy does. I post memes, yes, that's the purpose of memes, fag.

>>24538385
do whatever i say and always agree with me

>>24538259 (OP)
Behold and abide by the Petersonian commandments.

>wash thy penis
>pet the cat
>do not interrupt skateboarders
>have good posture
>clean your room
>if you don't know the truth then don't lie
>don't ask me to explain any of this just look for meaning

>>24538259 (OP)
My favorite non-escapist fiction is A Voyage to Arcturus by David Lindsay

>>24538669
You forgot the most important one:
>support Jews and Israel

>>24538259 (OP)
I do and it still doesn't make me desirable to any woman.

>>24538259 (OP)
what isn't escapism?
work is escapism.
existence is an exercise in escapism.

>>24540162
we're all trying to escape mortality.

>>24538259 (OP)
He is correct

>>24538512
Asshole left the window open.

>>24538512
>The office was overheated
must be nice. modern colleges blast the ac until it's 65 degrees. on those times u find urself in one of those old buildings in nyc that still has radiators in the rooms, the warmth is so crisp and dry.

>>24538262
Boy that big nose guy was really kind giving the crying man money to cheer him up!

>>24538259 (OP)
>grow up
meaning make keeeds and work hard at le job? To achieve what exactly, make more people and get the purchasing power for all the trinkets and baubles they create for totally-not-escapism? Why?

>>24538259 (OP)
What does "grow up" mean? Who determines the meaning? Why? What interest do you have that I follow your predetermined standard of being a "grown up"?

>>24540219
Until it's May and the radiators are still going, and it's 95 degrees in the classrooms.

>>24538259 (OP)
These threads only work on /v/ about video games. Peterson is a big proponent of reading fiction.

>>24538390
daily reminder that Georges Lukas, J K Rowlings, or Daniel Steel, writers, are richer that Tate or Peterson.

>>24540316
when they die, do they get to keep the money?

>>24540391
>money
I'm sorry, "jew tickets".
we call them jew tickets now.
jews ration them out to us to be used on increasingly more expensive goods & services.

Can you share whatever drug you are binging right now, Jordan?

>>24538259 (OP)
"sorry I don't wanna poop benzos"

>>24538383
Kek

>>24540255
>>24540237
Grow up is the trad fantasy of rejecting consumerism by buying into the very product of society turning into a consumer society: the 50s fantasy. Wife, kids, dog, car, a house and a steady job. Earning lots of money so you can spend it on fancy newfangled consumer goods like washing machines, and why just stop at one car? Buy a new one every year. Have two.
Amazingly they never once confront the dissonance between their idealized existence and the supposed message of eschewing shallow consumer culture and “escapism”. Who do they think bought the boob tubes and planted their kids in front of them?

There’s a very fascinating psychological problem ongoing in these minds. You don’t even need this realization about the birth of consumer culture to notice it, since all of these people will hawk crap on their podcasts and lectures every single time. From books to rugs to more courses on how you should live life. Extra cherry for manly man products for idiots. Buy a mangrate and a soap that smells like tar. Get VPN so you can pirate more entertainment.
The contradictions do not wake the zombies that listen to these people.

Art for art's sake

>>24541960
My dream is to buy a handmade Iranian rug but i can't afford it
Feels bad man

>>24538259 (OP)
No straight grown man cares what other grown men do with their spare time

>>24541995
trvke

>>24541995
The fact that collective swaths of society are reading comic books and playing with toys in their mid-30‘s not only has a deleterious effect on society but makes my options for interpersonal engagement really, really dull.

>>24542023
youtube channels that shill merchandise aren't real dude. maybe stop having parasocial relationships with influencers trying to sell you toys?

>>24542023
>im not straight
Coulda just said that and saved some time.

Reading philosophy is escapism too.

>>24541995

>clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
>academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
>research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
>university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
>assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
>accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 3 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
inb4
>he's a drug addict tho!
>his office was messy once!
>er...you don't have a dad!
>er...wash your dick!
>his daughter is a slut!
>y-you're Jordan
>he likes the Jews!
>he's controlled opposition!
Still triggering trannies who don't like the truth, libtards who propagandize, racists he won't associate with, and pseuds who can't tell the difference between a media personality and real life

>>24542069
no u

>>24542023
Somehow, a lot of guys like that are the ones getting married and procreating

>>24538259 (OP)
>>24538262
>>24538276
>>24538346
>>24538383
Evil rat.

>>24538259 (OP)
life is my escape from reading

>>24542201
Counterpoint

>>24538259 (OP)
I wish he would go on fishtank

>>24542250
Oof. No need to dehumanize Peterson like that.

>>24542023
>options for interpersonal engagement really, really dull.

I feel this, I'm tired of video game/gacha addicted bugmen for coworkers

It's really sad. He is so close to entering the truth, but refuses to move beyond his generalizations. He is the reason I became a believer in the first place. I believe at one point he genuinely wanted the truth, but now he's trapped in his sophisms. All it would take is one bold Christian to challenge him genuinely to stop hiding behind his language games and truly believe in Christ. He is so close, but the gate is narrow that leads to life.

Then again, who am I to judge, I am a worthless sinner.

>>24542201
>racists he won't associate with
Noooooo not my Juden Peterstein!!

Reading for escapism is healthier than using drugs, Pattycakes

>>24542201
He got BTFO'd by faggot atheists because he couldn't admit that he's not a Christian.

>>24538259 (OP)
No. What are you gonna do about it, crybaby? Are you gonna cry some more? Go ahead, cwy.

>>24541995
That is only true if you are Protestant.
Always keep that in mind

>>24542358
>Not living the NEET-life
You have only yourself to blame

>>24538259 (OP)
Has anyone actually read his book? I read the first chapter and didn't hate it, but Jordan is so far down with brain aids it's just unequivocally over for him.

The lover of amusement also seems to be intemperate, but really he is soft. For amusement is relaxation, since it consists in rest, and the love of amusement is one of those who go to excess in this.

>>24542023
Not very many people read comics. If you often run into comic readers it says something about you not society,

>>24538529
being creative is a form of escapism as well. creation is as escapist as consumption

>>24540219
>must be nice.
>>24540296
>Until it's May and the radiators are still going, and it's 95 degrees in the classrooms.
and until you live in one of these apartments for years and your sinuses are completely eradicated.

>>24542955
12 Rules for Life gets exponentially worse after the first chapter. It lures you in with the scientifically plausible stuff, then degenerates into religious preaching along the lines of "you should be good because jesus was good".

>>24538262
This is the only acceptable use for video generation

>>24538259 (OP)
>>24538262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYHnyomGZ1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpi1fHWHSRs

mountain escape

I'd tell him "Go to hell!"

>>24544326
DEFINE HELL

>>24542479
>do you believe in the Bible?
>the Bible is a hyperlinked library of wisdom across centuries. It’s not a book you simply “believe in.”
>so you don't take it literally?
>literalism is a modern distortion. Stories operate on multiple planes of reality.
>you're avoiding the question.
>i’m challenging its premises.
>are you saved?
>i think the idea of salvation is psychological, social, and metaphysical.
>so you're not saved?
>i'm working on aligning myself with the Logos.
>is that a yes?
>it's a process, not a status.
>do you believe in Heaven and Hell?
>we live them out psychologically. Every day.
>that’s not what the Bible says.
>well, the Bible isn’t a manual. It’s a narrative architecture of meaning.
>are you afraid of going to Hell?
>i’m more afraid of becoming the kind of person who belongs there.
>do you think atheists can be moral?
>hat depends what you mean by “moral,” and whether they're standing on borrowed ethical capital.
>borrowed from what?
>from Judeo-Christian metaphysics. From millennia of cultural evolution.
>so they’re moral, but for the wrong reasons?
>they’re moral, but they don’t know why.
>so you’re better than them?
>no, but I may be more aware of the foundations.
>so why not just say you're a Christian?
>because I’m not willing to trivialize that claim.
Fedoras mad.

>>24544368
ask any christian from the time of the apostles til now: "do you believe in God" all of them will easily answer: Yes. only JP and other postmodernists like him will quarrel with that question

>>24544368
Nice fan fiction

>>24544418
Because they know it's stupid and they will appear stupid, so they need to explain that they don't believe in a LITERAL god but something supposedly more abstract blah blah blah

>>24544436
>they need to explain that they don't believe in a LITERAL god but something supposedly more abstract
Except you can say you believe in God the same way you believe 2+2=4 (i.e. as an abstract but fundamental truth) AND acknowledge that you're a Christian. Peterson is unwilling to admit either claim.

>>24538262
I want to see one where they kiss desu...

>>24538259 (OP)
why
life is just as pointless as fiction

>>24538262
Now this is kino

>>24538419

>>24544418
>NOOOOO, YOU HAVE TO CONFORM TO THE STRAWMAN VERSION OF RELIGION WE PARROT
Lol, no.
>>24544422
>filtered

>Interviewer: Do you believe in God?
>Memerson: what do you mean "do"? what do you mean "you"? what do you mean "believe"? what do you mean "in"? what do you mean "God"?
>Retards: OMG HE'S SUCH A GENIUS!!

>>24538465
why?

>>24544436
>it's stupid and they will appear stupid
Fedora tipping is something midwits buy into because they think it makes them appear intelligent to others.

>>24544591
Avoid it and see how your life turns out.

>>>The entirety of modern philosophy is a weepy, drug addicted Canadian psychologist and a fat lisping Slovenian neo-communist

Philososhits on suicide watch.

>>24544651
Jordan is a self-help guru, not a philosopher

>>24544616
fear is not a valid reason

>>24544657
Nice mental gymnastics you got there.

>>24544568
Sure. What's wrong with that? If I was asked I'd reply that I don't know, but if I was really expected to address it, I'd also begin trying to specify what we mean by belief and God. How else can you answer if you hold any position but a simple yes or no? That's how I try to get down to the questions and answers by myself, too. And if I had an audience, then I would make damn sure I get to explain exactly what I think and not with hairsplitting and excruciating detail.

>>24544677
Just the truth. He hasn't written any philosophy work.

>>24544681
You're full of shit faggot. You are coping.

>>24544680
He knows what people mean, he's just choosing not to answer because he doesn't believe, so he shields the real answer, "no", with postmodern word games. Ask him if he supports Israel and you'll get a resounding "yes" instead of this nonsense.

>>24544684
Prove me wrong. Post the philosophy books he's written, you little peasant.

>>24544663
Who said anything about fear, brainlet? Go ahead, avoid responsibility for as long as you can, and see how your life turns out.

>>24538259 (OP)
>fiction stops having any value past a certain age because... because it just does okay?
None of this would be happening if the media in question wasn't being produced within a system that considers juvenile media a category something is relegated to rather than occupying in its own right. Nothing is "for children" anymore because being "childish" is a byword for "can't be bothered to try". Some of you people genuinely believe Tolkein is a failure because you can't tell the difference between the Silmarillion and Bluey.

>>24544708
>fun precludes responsibility
You're a good goy, dismissed.

>>24544913
Who said anything about not having fun, retard? Go ahead and keep playing Peter Pan and see how things turn out.

>>24544680
why doesnt JP just explain what he means by "do" and "you" and "believe" etc. etc. rather than keep asking the question back providing a total non-answer? he could simply say "no, i don't believe in God in the traditional sense" and THEN you can immerse yourself deeper in the the topic at hand.

>>24545020
being clear with language is a trap for being cornered by an autistic Socrates

>>24545046
hate this fucking colossally gay fucking methhead spastic rapist so much

>>24545020
People don't realise Peterson's "high verbal IQ word vomit retreat into semantics" is actually him trying to Mr. Miyagi you. He's teaching you the way he thinks rather than a direct answer to a question that isn't actually relevant to improving your life or reaching a collective truth. Showing the process rather than giving the answer.

>"what do you mean by 'believe'?"
>most people don't know what they even mean with the words they use, he won't "answer" because he wants to be genuinely precise with his speech to be in line with the Logos. he understands the importance of language and belief deeper than most.


I think people take all these categorisations and semantics too literally. he's essentially saying; "it doesn't matter what you TELL yourself you believe, merely by existing and having a basic ethical code, you are unconsciously acting out Christian ethics and stories. God is the interplay between conscience and calling. The act of voluntary self sacrifice can be found in all religions, all the questions you ask as irrelevant to the actual POINT i'm trying to make, you're just trying to gotcha me for youtube clout because you're obsessed with discrediting my character from a preconceived bias woke mind virus."

It's also just temperament and levels of consciousness. like the Dawkins debate. if you don't get it, you just won't get it.

>>24545135
age before beauty captain

>>24538259 (OP)
Well written fiction can teach more than actual guide books

>>24544368
posted it again award

>>24545589
Peterson will touch a nerve by simply pointing out something that is blatantly ignored in the way an ideological group frames an issue. He exposes ideological blind spots in a simple and straightforward way; this leads to the fellow travelers of whichever idea is being discussed having a breakdown and exposing themselves. He's valuable as a media personality if even for that reason alone.

>Peterson: it would be productive to involve men in the conversation about violence against women in a way that doesn't label masculinity as inherently negative
>Libtard: so you're saying in order to make men care about rape women have to be returned to the status of men's property
>Peterson: the rise of identitarianism is linked to reactionary politics that sublimate personal resentment into collectivistic extremism
>Chud: so you're saying white people don't have group interests and therefore shouldn't exist
>Peterson: transgender ideology specifically targets a group of people likely to be confused and open to mental pathologies via social contagion--we shouldn't give hormones to children let alone surgically mutilate minors
>Tranny: so you're literal nazi saying we're a disease and we should be exterminated like one
>Peterson: anonymity increases the likelihood of pathological behavior so perhaps one way to alleviate the negative repercussions of its overall influence would be to segregate accounts on these specific widely used social media websites--it's definitely better than secret and selective control of the public narrative as it exists now
>/pol/tard: so you're saying you want everyone everywhere to be tied to whatever they say and do at all times...I'm a freedom fighter [goes to another thread to post about AOC's asshole while writing "nig*er" 50 times]

>>24538465
you're such an NPC holy shit

>>24544651
I like how Pepe evolved into this invasive species of meme coming from a frog that was rather timid in its usage.

>>24545694
>having a job and a family makes you an NPC
No, anon. You're just a loser.

>>24545249
That is a fundamental truth.

>>24545834
>Spending all your time making more money for Shekelstein makes you a winner
Nta but thats absolutely embarrassing my dude

>>24545954
Sure, poorfag. Being unemployed and without a family really sticks it to the Jews, lol.

>>24544368
>judeo-christian
is the same as
>anti-christ-christian

>>24546995
I can help you out with that, pic related.

Also, there are some good quotes from him in the documentary "Marching to Zion". I think "Sodomite Deception" has some quotes from him too. You can find them on Odysee, pretty sure they're banned from JewTube.

>>24546032
i'm constantly counter signalling them online so im pretty sure i'm pitching in against them lol

>>24538262
That head tilt from the jew when he starts hopping is so comedic lmao
AI is getting too good

>>24538390
> Friendly guy you meet in the pub: Me and the lads see all the work you're putting in
Where? At the pub?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EA07LUEMZI

why do people idolize psychologists (and neurologists by extension) so much? these faggots are THE reason science is being criticized for having tons of fake research (no one serious considers these fields science).

>>24548403
That's only certain subfields, brainlet. Psychology is a relatively new science and is still closely associated with its philosophical roots.

>>24548505
>Psychology is a relatively new science
psychology is not and will never be a science.