Thread 24544676

>Philosophy before Socrates
>Questions and theories on how the universe was created, the nature of God, how and why our bodies function the way they do, what causes weather change etc.
>After Socrates
>Uhmmmm you have a source for that? How can you be sure water is wet, huh? If you touch the water it's your hand that is wet, not the water. Me? Heh, I know I don't know anything *smugle chuckle*

Nietzsche was too kind on Socrates.

>Nietzsche was too kind on Socrates.
Uhmmmm you have a source for that?

>>24544676 (OP)
I susect the reason they killed him was that he was so annoying and I'm on their side. Plato goes on and on about how wonderful he is but he never seems anything but sophistical to me in the dialogues.

The one biographical snippet that inclines me in his favour was that he was apparently a good and brave soldier. So he must have had a bit more about him than the average modern smart-aleck.

>>24544676 (OP)
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BREAK PENIS STATUES
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>>24544676 (OP)
>dude everything is fire
>no dude everything is water
>but what in Zeus' name is "everything", "fire", and "water"? Aren't you guys just arguing semantic bullshit?
>uhhhh get lost we're solving the mysteries of the universe here

>>24544676 (OP)
Why does no one ever talk about him looking like an autist

>>24544728
Xenophon literally makes fun of his appearance and that's one of the two sources we have on Socrates, retard.

>>24544732
>the ancient greeks knew how to diagnose autism

>>24544744
You have autism, anon. Because you took that very literally.

>>24544760
No, you misunderstood my first post. He looks like he literally has autism

Socrates had extra peripheral vision because of how far apart his eyes were

>>24544800
There are no facial features that indicate actual autism, anon. It’s a behavioral malady.

Were the sophists actually the good guys?

>>24544707
>susect the reason they killed him was that he was so annoying and I'm on their side
My exact feelings about Galileo. The inhuman amount of propaganda that has been peddled to obscure how incredibly fair the world was to Galileo is ridiculous.

>>24544889
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8773918/

>>24544894
>Were the sophists actually the good guys?
Were the Sophists trying to enslave all free men in Athens and install a homosexual Apollonian cult Tyranny? No, no they weren't.

So obviously the sophists were bad guys.

>if philosophers also do science... le good
>if philosophers only do philosophers stuff... le bad
nobody cares about the pre socratics unless they they are part of plato's headcanon. if nietzsche shitted on socratres for only doing philosophy then what about him shitting on aristotle who also did a bunch of science experiment and basically wrote about everything?

>>24544929
>Deep Neural Networks
>K K Mujeeb Rahman
Into the trash it goes.

The presocratics were lost because they fucking sucked. There was no conspiracy to get rid of their works, they were just obviously, grossly inferior to Plato and Aristotle, “Muh quasi-profound poetry and enigmatic fragments” fuck you. It’s all “everything is mind bro” “it’s all one bro” “my life is a punishment from the gods whoahh deep tortured soul” “everything is changing lol”. They’re basically shitposts.

the steeds that bear me carried me as far as ever my heart
Desired, since they brought me and set me on the renowned
Way of the goddess, who with her own hands conducts the man
who knows through all things. On what way was I borne

5 along; for on it did the wise steeds carry me, drawing my car,
and maidens showed the way. And the axle, glowing in the socket -
for it was urged round by the whirling wheels at eax
end - gave forth a sound as of a pipe, when the daughters of the
Sun, hasting to convey me into the light, threw back their veils
10 from off their faces and left the abode of Night.

Hylics get the rope.

>>24544984
neetche just talked out his ass about everything. he got so good at it, he spent the last ten years of his life with no bowel control.

>>24544707
he keel hiself he coosed death as theb punismint hiself

>>24544909
That's just a result of SCIENCE GOOD CHURCH BAD. The current zeitgeist likes to think of the Inquisition sneaking round like Monty Python, jumping out on all and sundry and dragging them off to the torture chamber.

If people want a martyr for nonconformist thought then Bruno is a more reasonable figure. But he wasn't as important a scientist of course.

>>24544909
>>24545112
wtf are you guys talking about

>>24544704
kek

>>24544909
I think it's still bad to persecute people for being annoying

>>24545546
I disagree

>>24545546
We should have set dogs on Jesus and have him torn apart for our own amusement. Crucifixion was too good for him.

>>24544707
They were pissed because he taught Alcibiades.

>>24544676 (OP)
It's hilarious seeing all the useful idiot antiwhite antichrists search for meaning in their lives through philososhitters because they reject and hate the truth of Jesus.

>>24545343
>>24545458
>>24545653
Go back >>>/lgbt/

>>24546335
His affiliation with Critias was what made him suspect, nobody cared about his tutelage of Alcibiades at that time.