who is the king of /schizolit/

>>24546892 (OP)
>PKD is a better schizo
>Delillo is a better postmodernist
>Kerouac and Hunter S. Thompson are more fun
>Gaddis is a better writer overall
The problem with Pynchon is that anything he does, someone else does better.

>>24546910
I like a lot of the writers you mention, but this is a bafflingly stupid take

PKD for schizophrenia/schizoaffectivity
Pynchon for schizotypal/schizoid

>>24546892 (OP)
Neither. I am king of schizolit.

>>24546892 (OP)
pkd is very enjoyable. few authors who nail paranoia the way he does.
my favourite is flow my tears.

>>24546892 (OP)
Just finished The Transmigration of Timothy Archer and I came here to say that PKD clearly died of too much intelligence and that I might be hebephrenic, or so I'd like to think to absolve myself. Hey, I can at least abstract, unlike Bill

>>24546892 (OP)
Havent read pynchon but love PKD. What other books would you recommend for someone like me who loved electric sheep, valis, and palmer eldritch? Really liked the theme of the characters not knowing what the fuck is going on with their heads and questioning the reality of everything

>>24546892 (OP)
Pynchon for me, but both are kangz in their own right

>>24546915
You couldn't explain why you think that even if you tried.

>>24547038
Barefoot in the Head by Brian Aldiss
The Butterfly Kid by Chester Anderson
Camp Concentration by Thomas Disch
Beyond Apollo by Barry Malzberg
The Shockwave Rider by John Brunner
The Inverted World by Christopher Priest
The Illuminatus trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea
Master of Space and Time by Rudy Rucker
Vurt by Jeff Noon

>>24547525
Thank you and god bless. Have been meaning to read illuminatus trilogy

>>24547528
You can also look up "New Wave Science Fiction", lots of authors under that category are very similar to Dick.

>>24546892 (OP)
whenever I want to check out another PKD book its blurb says "what if reality is le fake?" and I immediately lose interest

>>24546910
Who does it better than Pynchon?

>>24547916
He just outlined it for you

>>24546910
>>Delillo is a better postmodernist
not sure. he never wrote anything as good as GR.

>>24546892 (OP)
Dick was a true schizo. Pynchon was just a quirky pretender. Dick wins.

>>24546892 (OP)
ive only read lot 49 from pynchon but it reads exactly like a boring pkd story.

>>24546921

>>24546892 (OP)
Both are shit.

>>24548166
>tattoo it's
lol

>>24547069
>PKD is a better schizo
Havent read him
>Delillo is a better postmodernist
Considering his big works came after GR, which literary theorists count as the first and paramount piece of postmodern literature (see the Cambridge Introduction to Postmodernism), I'd say this is a stretch. Pynchon laid the foundation for literary postmodern tropes, but again, read the intro for a deeper dive.
>Kerouac and Hunter S. Thompson are more fun
I was one of the first defenders of Kerouac on lit. I think his best is terrific. That said, Pynchon has way more fun with his writings. In GR alone, you have Byron the bulb, the adenoid, and all the chase sequences, including the pies and banana peels. What you think 'fun' is is up to you, but unless you can lay out some parameters, this is a moot point.
>Gaddis is a better writer overall
Again, we're talking of taste. If you gave us some meat as to what you mean by 'better' and 'overall,' it would be easier to, as you say, explain why I think this.

Ultimately, you come across as a young one, and unread at that. Young people love to boil down artists to a few things they think they are. It's reduction. I understand why. The world is too big to swallow, so it's easier to break it down into inaccurate chunks. I made the same claims about the 20th century American writers when I was 18 (Steinbeck, Hemingway, Fitzgerald, and Faulkner). You'll learn eventually that your thoughts here are absurd.

In other words:
>Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged,
>Missing me one place search another,
>I stop somewhere waiting for you.

>>24546910
GR and M&D are better than anything Doolittle ever wrote.

>>24548419
>see the Cambridge Introduction to Postmodernism
Written by shills. One of the worst introductions of any such book.

The recognitions preceded GR by 20 years, as did John Hawkes and Barth.

>>24548511
>doolittle
im sure this sounded funny in your head but delillo has just as much depth as pynchon

>>24547943
CoL 49 is the only pynchon i've ever read but i like it a lot more than any of PKD's work. I never felt like PKD could create any world but one just populated by charachters with silly german names who secretly work for le shadowy organization. CoL 49 (and pynchons other stuff from what i can tell) actually seem to have living worlds with interdependencies within them

>>24546892 (OP)
L. Ron Hubbard

>>24548675
If you'd read the introduction, which I doubt you will because it preemptively btfo your argument, you'd learn that there are movements and the space between, and none of those borders are solid. Just read the book, anon. You'll see what I mean

>>24549777
You're a retard who is trying to sound smart.

>>24549796
Kek. I've explained it gently and offered you resources to go further yourself, and you're so damn scared of admitting that you don't know something that you lash out like a cornered opossum.

>>24549832
Don’t want to get too off-topic but I’m sick of the arrogant overly aggressive retards here too.
An anon who is a pseud, or trying to sound smarter than he really is, or whatever, but who actually read something good or interesting and sincerely tries to talk about it with any effort or detail, is better even than some hypothetical 170+ IQ gigachad millionaire /lit/poster who has two PhDs, one in Comparative Literature and one in the Classics, assuming this second anon just makes low effort bullshit responses and criticisms like that.

It’s also literature. It’s not a fucking hard science or mathematics. There’s elements of human subjectivity and taste here. OK, apart from literal things like misspelling the name of the author or book, not understanding what happened in the literal plot of a book or misreading parts, whatever, there’s deeper room for discussion. But retard losers go around making their retarded low-effort shitposts and nitpicking because of their deep rooted psychological issues, and treat a different literary taste, or a different interpretation on your part, as if you got something wrong on the essay or test and they’re a hardass teacher who wants to give you an F for that alone.

Retard hardass mentality.

I like Pynchon a lot but PKD’s VALIS is probably the summit of truly great schizo literature, if you’re judging it by how schizo it is while still managing to be a great book.

>>24550793
Don't know if you're agreeing with me or not, but that rant was reddit as hell

>>24550793
Ultimately it's a literature forum that went to shit a decade ago, though it's probably started off as shit. It's up to you whether you want to sift through it to find the gems, but don't get upset about it. They're just words on a screen about words in a book

>>24549832
Holy shit the pretentiousness

>>24546892 (OP)
I like dick more

>>24550841
Yeah I bet you do

>>24550821
>>24550793

nta but i think he makes a fair point. GR was pretty trend setting and so if delillo is in some ways "a better postmodernist", it makes sense. shoulders of giants and whatnot

>>24551442
I'd like Philip to be pynched on my dick if you get what I iygwim