What happens when a prisoner is freed and dragged out of the cave?

>>24548776 (OP)
You gain control of your emotions and therefore control over your life and the narrative you perceive.
What I assume anyway, newfag to all this.

>>24548776 (OP)
When first turned towards the fire, the freed prisoner's eyes are pained by the light, and they might prefer to look back at the familiar shadows.

>>24548782
The realist in me knows this to be true, man will always pick the cave over the daylight, we were cave dwellers at one point after all...

>>24548776 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpq35wyDi7I

>>24548776 (OP)
This moment symbolizes the difficult and often uncomfortable process of enlightenment or gaining true knowledge. The pain represents the struggle of moving from ignorance to understanding, and the desire to return to the shadows illustrates the human tendency to resist change and cling to what is familiar, even if it's not the truth.

>>24548786
Nope

>>24548776 (OP)

>>24548781
>You gain control of your emotions
lmao, is this what they are teaching now

>>24548804
Not taught, just naive I suppose
This anon never went to the fancy college courses

>>24548792
Enlighten me, why do you disagree?

>>24548812
man should not pick the cave

>>24548820
'Should' and 'do' are different, I'm not saying man *shouldn't* turn to light, just that most of the time they would rather choose coping in the dark.

>>24548821
they will not cope in the dark if they are given the choice or free will to do so

>>24548776 (OP)

>>24548786
>>24548812
>>24548821
OP's a jeet who's never read Plato, he just looks at ChatGPT summaries. Your instinct is right, but that's because the cave = civic life, and the shadows = civic opinions. Socrates says in the book just before that the greatest impediments to education are one's fellow citizens as they ordinarily are. Everyone eventually returns to the cave in the analogy, it's just a matter of whether it's as someone standing above moving the statues in front of the fire or trying to release the prisoners, who will for the most part kill anyone who tries.

>>24548872
you are pathetic, it is getting worse with your mental health, seek medical attention, insufferable pig

>>24548900
They are right, though. Sounds like you're one of the cave dwellers.

>>24548901
same fag

>>24548872
you are wrong, you didn't understand plato at all, GTFO piggy, you are blind

>>24548907
Cope in your cave and seethe before the daylight

>>24548776 (OP)
2500 years and still this tired metaphor is dragged through the mud and infused with artificial profundity. It may have been interesting in the agora's of Athens for one or two days but that is no longer the case.

>>24548915
do you have a better metaphors?

>>24548900
>>24548909
You've never read Plato, and Plato would say your reliance on AI puts you squarely in the cave, cope and seethe jeet.

>>24548920
Why do you think you are not in the cave yourself?

>>24548994
Everyone's in the cave, but not everyone's chained. The extent that someone just nods their head in agreement with anyone else as an authority, like relying on an AI summary, then one is still chained in the cave. To the extent that one can rely on one's own powers, then one is not chained.

>>24549006
>Everyone's in the cave
you are in the cave yourself

>>24549017
Retard, did you forget that the philosopher *returns to the cave*, oh, wait, you've never read the Republic, so all distinctions are meaningless to you

>>24549019
you didn't read any of Plato

>>24549371
You literally only read AI summaries

>>24549384
you have no clue

>>24549384
you didn't read any of plato books

>>24548786
Nope

>>24549821
>>24549840
Real big talk coming from a retard. Since you're such a genius, go ahead and tell me why Thrasymachus blushes, without using AI. If you've actually read Plato (you haven't), you'd know.

>>24548776 (OP)
He murders his liberator and goes straight back.

>>24550046
>why Thrasymachus blushes
What Good would it do if I told you that, you will stop banning us for no reason at all? this is never your board, God created it to serve a much better purpose than yourself, you are ruining this world

You read but have no understanding

>>24550049

Fall of Soviet Union colorised

>>24550062
I'm not a mod, retard. You claim to have read Plato; you spam threads on a *discussion board* devoted to books. Put up or shut up. Prove you've read Plato and aren't just some mindless retard who settles for summaries.

(Also, lmao, imagine being so braindead as to think 4chan exists for the sake of God's purposes.)

>>24550070
You are the mod, you keep complaining about chatgpt, every body is using it this days, retard

>>24550107
You're on a discussion board copy-pasting what some AI summary says without having read any of the books you ask the AI about. You don't think for yourself, you're exactly the kind of moron Plato and Aristotle looked down upon. And for a Christlarper, you're a pathetic one, your AI dependency is entirely in the spirit of the Antichrist, some retard leaning on AI instead of reading the scriptures for yourself.

Still waiting on that evidence that you've actually read Plato by saying why Thrasymachus blushes, but I know I'll have to keep waiting for that because you've never read him.

>>24550107
>you keep complaining about chatgpt, every body is using it this days
No anon, you are able to use it here without making a fool of yourself because of the anonymous nature of this site. If you were forced to use a nickname you'd either be ridiculed as a retard or be among retards.

Plato passionately hated retards because he thought they were responsible for killing Socrates.

>>24550213
He's pretty identifiable, he's been spamming the same threads for two months

>>24550046
Thrasymachus got booty-blasted by Socrates with FACTS and LOGIC. Thrasymachus didn't buy into Socrates's bs about justice but he couldn't argue anymore and was forced to concede that he was an ignoramus. He was mad seething.

>>24548776 (OP)
The prisoner realizes the shadows of the cave and outside world are no more or less real than one another and goes back inside the cave because it provides greater comfort.

>>24550227
Nope, he "blushes" (literally just "turned red") because he was arguing effortfully while the summer heat was getting to him:

>Now, Thrasymachus did not agree to all of this so easily as I tell it now, but *he dragged his feet and resisted, and he produced a wonderful quantity of sweat, for it was summer*. And *then* I saw what I had not yet seen before--Thrasymachus blushing. (350c-d)

Socrates is revealing that he was only pretending to be mad the whole time, he's been putting on rhetorical front the whole time, he's totally shameless.

>>24548776 (OP)
Spelunk the han son doong.

Thats literally one of the first things he talks about in the analogy retard. Read the fucking book youre not even setting the stage for discussion. Just asking to be babied.

>>24550131
>>24550213
What happens when a prisoner is freed and dragged out of the cave

Where are AI ? Normal anons won't know

YOU ARE JANNIES

>>24548776 (OP)

>>24550338
>What happens when a prisoner is freed and dragged out of the cave
>Where are AI ? Normal anons won't know
Dipshit, you've been spamming threads for two months, it's easy as shit to identify when you're using AI and when you're writing yourself.

You used AI for a single sentence OP, I can tell it's AI because it's more grammatical than your actual posts, which lack consistent capitalization, punctuation, exhibit poor grammar, and when you do write yourself, you write a line or two with limited vocabulary (my guesses for your own writing: >>24548792
>>24548820
>>24548832
>>24548900 [this one is how I know you're not a native English speaker, only children and foreigners use "pig" or "donkey" like they're the worst things you could call someone]
Etc.

Those are your posts. You consistently use AI to come up with grammatically correct questions you copy and paste as an OP, sometimes adding a tossed on question about book recs in your ungrammatical "Engrish" to get past having your thread deleted (as you did at >>24548933). Then you copypaste ChatGPT responses to your own OP, as you did in this thread at >>24548782 and >>24548790. *Native* English speakers recognize this as AI right away, because it reads with the general and vague diction of an Encyclopedia entry instead of a person sharing their views. Maybe *you* haven't noticed, but I've noticed that your threads with the longer AI summaries get skipped and ignored now by real anons, which is why you're cutting back to a shorter posts.

I could post dozens of examples of your shitty, lazy threads from the archives, and you know damn well a bunch of anons recognize your AI slop for what it is, because you're stupid enough to use the same patterns repeatedly, and too ESL to realize how unnatural AI writing is on a fucking message board.

>>24550402
>Dipshit, you've been spamming threads for two months
you are a Jannie then, ok dude

this is not your board bro, no matter how much you try, it will never be yours

>>24550432
It's not your board, faggot, go to twitter where you'll fit in with your fellow streetshitters

>>24548776 (OP)

>>24548776 (OP)
They realize that the meaning of life is an illusion.

>>24550443
you will never win against us, you will perish

WE WILL WIN

>>24550443
>>24550443
Matthew 4: 8 Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

9 And he said to him: “All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.

10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”

11 Then the Devil left him, and look! angels came and began to minister to him.

>>24550457
>>24550463
Plato and Aristotle reject revelatory theology, have fun simping for Greek philosophers hostile to your beliefs

>>24548776 (OP)
He goes back into the cave.

>>24549384
Actually, I listen to audiobooks while I'm half asleep.

>>24548776 (OP)

>>24550443
Lots of cope in everything you wrote ITT, nigga, but you're funny.

>>24550443
you are not funny

>>24550443
you should get killed

>>24551436
>>24551554
Jump in the Ganges, Suresh