Thread 24556003

Overpowered Isekai MC edition

Previous >>24552697

>What is Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royalroad, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

> Advice for Noobs!
Running your story like the business it is:
https://www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847

On writing webserials:
https://alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/

Sanderson's Writing lectures 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY

/wng/ Daily Quest

>reply to start your timer
>write your slop
>24 hours later reply with a reaction + report based on your progress toward the goal

Word goal of the day:
>1200 words
Quote of the day:
>"The difference between genius and insanity is PR"

>weeb op
JANNIES DO YOUR JOB

>>24556024
It's a western author on royalroad

>>24556024
It's a western web novel :)
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/118891/new-life-as-a-max-level-archmage

Truth be told, if I see an AI cover I simply won’t read.
AI lacks detail. If you can't pay some SEA 30 bucks to draw your waifu, or spend ten minutes in photoshop, or go outside and snap a nice photo of the wilderness, why should I care about your work?

>>24556069
This

>>24556069
>female
>mage
no. witch or sorceress.

>>24556032
>>24556029
it doesn’t matter to the janny

we’ve already lost two or three threads to their discretion on this matter anyhow

>>24556069
>effort
it took me many minutes to generate this chapter sir

convince me not to pick up LOTM the anime is so kino

>>24556069
Especially disgusting if you have money (which the OP author definitely does). You have normalfags spending a couple hundred on portraits for their OC in a TRPG, and furries dropping thousands on their fetish, and you are too cheap to invest in your story? Pathetic.

>>24555922
the gradient is a good effect, I'll experiment with that later

>>24556003 (OP)
https://youtu.be/WRd3g_8-WLQ?si=O5Mzi9gmIP8w6zPK

>>24552851
Wrote 300 words of slop...
>>24556015
start timer. This time I'm going all in and reach the word goal, for real.

>>24556123
It probably should be black for “The Crow”, gradient for “and” and then white for the “The Rabbit”
It’s like pottery. It rhymes!

>>24556003 (OP)
How's this cover?

Speaking of covers, how hard do you think an expressionistically painted cover is going to get filtered? Because I would like to paint my own. I'm not the best painter or anything but I'm gonna be backlogging my story for a while and would also like to up my painting skils, but I fucking suck at Anime figures. Most of the stuf I make is very loose and impressionistic, Van Gogh type shit. Would it get filtered?

>>24556069
Every time I've paid illustrators money I've been horribly disappointed. Last time I commissioned a cover it was so bad it was unusable. I'm never commissioning again.

Besides, so long as you avoid obvious overly-detailed AI styled art, no one will ever be able to tell it was AI.

>>24556155
I like the direction. cute
something is off compositionally. can't place what, it just feels wrong

>overwrote a segment and can't recover it
So this is how heaven tests me...??

>>24556166
The perspective is off and the title is angled improperly

>>24556156
>hand painting his own cover
based

>>24556155
Anon, I read your excerpt from the last thread and it was good enough to keep me interested.
That being said this cover has 3D effects that do not appeal to me. You might be better off just using the plain map as a cover and adding more detail. This looks like a scene out of Veggie Tales. Shoot, print out your map, spill coffee on it and then dry it, and recreate this image IRL with chest pieces or carvings.

Kys gong farmers

Why's this becoming schizo central?

>>24556181
Make another general about schizo slop to shit up the quality of this board, faggot

>>24556155
the 3D stuff is kinda uncanny like those bowling alley animations
i think it'd look better with something more natural

>>24556181
Just filter Gong’s trip and you’ll be okay. FFF is still in hiding so the thread should be safe

>>24556155
The map is too reflective, I don't know much about 3D, but lower the gamma of the render somehow.

>>24556193
these two are one and the same

>>24556181
It's mostly gonganon and he also lives in /wg/, just ignore him.

>>24556003 (OP)
>max level archmage
the latest chapter has hurt my expectations of the author's ability to maintain consistency

>few chapters ago the MC is spamming blink spells to catch up to the train, gets motion sick from teleporting too much so she swaps to flying with speed buffs which she says is way less effort and only a little bit slower.
>latest chapter "oh btw i can fly waaaay faster than that if I want I was just leisurely taking my time to catch up to the train"
then why were you fucking BLINKING in the first place?!?!?

>>24556155
i love it. reminds of hoi3 and 2's covers

>>24556205
I wasn’t on 4chan for days and only posted for maybe one day in total before today and you guys think I’m everywhere. Kek. You seem new to the internet.

>>24556179
>>24556182
maybe try more colors

>>24556196
No anon. You can clearly see FFF is some ESL from the way he posts.

>>24556212
you are truly the dumbest retard concieved
who do you think you're fooling?

>>24556172
>angled improperly
what is an improper angle?
It's not meant to physical object on the map, so it's angle should not matter.

>>24556175
maybe I go with a normal map, but I'm afraid even roughtened up map is kinda boring

>>24556217
Probably a brownoid considering his poor self control and massive ego.

>>24556217
>drops constant keks
>weird israel posting
>posting his publishers list
100% the same guy

>>24556179
>>24556182
why is she getting larger

>>24556218
Check the archive. I didn’t post between these two times.

>>24556226
Author's barely disguised fetish.

>>24556225
First off FFF is too stupid to figure out what a gong farmer is. Second off FFF and Gong respond in very different ways. FFF will either accuse you of being jealous of him, being his biggest fan, or just accuse you of being the guy sabotaging him. Gongtranny on the other hand can't even be bothered to read the replies to most of his comments because he is a different variety of mentally ill.

>>24556227
>!!qS01+GGe5pD
>!!lRrkVx+Ahhx
you cant fool me kinoman

Mazel tov, anons!

>>24556115
LOTM novel is great, I haven't watched the anime but the novel consistently remains my chinese #1 despite spending years wading through the chink .txt gutters.

>>24556235
being into medieval nerd shit is congruent. FFFs cover is a medieval manuscript and gong posts his pseudo manuscript art as well
they're both aggressive, insecure retards. gong is clearly putting on a persona to try and get epic pwns on people but it slips sometimes and he starts acting insecure and misinterpreting things to be more self centered
they both randomly brag deflect by saying they're published in a mag when they're shit on
they're also the only posters I've seen self reply and mark their post with a (you) while replying to someone else

Any good writing blogs or guides like https://maxonwriting.com/category/being-a-better-writer/ ?

>>24556263
The fact “They” got you this paranoid to make conspiracy theories speaks volumes. I’ll just stop posting if you’re this assblasted.

>>24556271
Behave or your turd will get another 0.5 review.

>>24556275
We don’t even live in the same Timezone. Why would his post frequency differ so much to this trip?

>>24556115
The translation is readable but still somewhat amateur so you've gotta be okay with unnatural / very chinese-sounding phrasing.
If you read webslop habitually it will still be better than most of that but if you're used to published novels you'll notice the difference.

There is a new translation coming out from Seven Seas but you'll have to wait quite a while for the full series, they're only releasing the first book for now.

Other than that I heartily recommend it.

you realize he chain replied in the dead thread for hours after everyone moved from it?
he does this shit all the time. he WILL do this all day. drop a .5 star on his garbage and ignore him

>>24556288
5th schizo

>>24556288
You need genuine help. I’m a completely different person. You either have a delusion of reference or can’t tell who is speaking to you when they do. That’s an issue with pattern recognition.

>>24556292
I lost the plot at this point.

>>24556293
chain reply to me
do it. bitch. you're a moth to my flame and you need my attention more then you will ever realize

>>24556296
Get some sleep, projecting lolcow schizo.

>>24556300
I guess I'm one now, but I legitimaly lost the count:
>Gong
>FFF
>Samefag schizo
>???
>???
>Me?

>>24556229
i didn't make those

>>24556310
>anti-samefag-schizo schizo
>jannies hate weeb ops schizo
>dialogue tag schizo
>anti FFF schizo (real)
>"why are there so many schizos" schizo
>(you)

>>24556321
>>(you)
Fuck

>>24556293
If you were actually a different person you wouldn't care so much about FFF getting poor reviews, and in fact would encourage it since you've said in your own words that you hate "slop" and web novels.

Everybody do NOT respond to @24556327
it is FFF falseflagging and accusing other obviously-not-FFF anons of being FFF to discredit the samefagging allegations

>>24556327
I don’t care if you give him bad reviews. I care about you conflating me with a gong farming slop peddler like him.

>>24556327
he's been baiting about the publisher stuff here and in /wg/
he dropped the trip to fight accusations but kept rage replying in /wg/ with it off, using the same links he always does
just tell people to reviewbomb him whenever he starts acting uppity

>>24556263
They're different people but both have the same self-destructive symptoms inherent to narcissism there is not much debate in realizing two comparable schizos exist instead of one

>>24556338
Meds

just noticed that he changed his trips again

>>24556360
...he doesn't understand how the trip works does he?

>>24556367
I forgot the exact trip password across devices

>get a new comment on Scribblehub
>it was a deleted comment by a now-deleted bot account

>>24556386
Keep going, anon.

third person limited past tense mmc pov

Serious question. Do you guys post at a specific time of the day when you post your chapter?
Is traffic highest in the early evening?

>>24556459
no.

>>24556459
you need those weird minute intervals like :37 or :52

>>24556459
i upload at 08:08

>>24556220
Don't be afraid to draw you map out on paper. Once in pencil, once in pen, and then spill some coffee or tea on it so it looks old

>>24556271
>>24556278
Oh. Shit. You are FFF, aren't you?

>>24556459
I don't think it makes much difference for when I posted, my chapters would only stay on the front page for only a few minutes anyway.

>protagonist is gonna ride a horse
>realize I don't know anything about horses
>spend 14 hours researching horseback riding (knights, racing, equestrian)
>study the biomechanics of horses and their breeding
>sign up for horseback riding lessons on a weekend so I can have some real world experience being around the animal and what its like to ride one

Is this normal? You guys all do this too right?

>>24556500
the horseback riding lessons are slightly less expensive than the idol horse game anon so could be worse
but still could never be me

>>24556508
forgot pic rel

>>24556500
Not to that extent, but at least having some idea of what you're talking about prevents making a fool of yourself.

>>24556263
>>24556486
I'm inclined to believe this. Because there is another underlying fact: despite being anti-slop the schizo fully ignores posts from the authors FFFag regarded well, all the while replying to "anonymous" anons with passive-aggressive bait. He's enacting revenge on the collective "anonymous" entity he cemented on his peabrain as his lasting haters, just like when he thought we were the ones who left him with a bad review. Those who didn't fell out of favor with him got spared from his tormented idea of collective punishment, just like his idea of shilling here in every thread as collective punishment.

FFFag was also last seen samefagging and replying to himself before fucking off, so he already showed proof of abandoning his old identity already in that very meltdown thread.

Why are you guys replying to the schizo? Just ignore it.

>>24556480
I dislike the practice of drawing on paper.
I can't scratch the map digitally and make it look if I want, but in this case, I do not see a reason why.

i'm going to write something for RR for the first time, could you give me your story ideas? and tips & tricks

did i post in the wrong thread? where are the idea guys

>>24556069
am I excused for using AI cover art if I'm legitimately broke even if I have a job?

Paying the bills and meds for my non-existent thyroid has me fucked up and cursing my genetics.

>>24556209
I feel like in stories where the character is godlike and extremely versatile you have to just suspend your disbelief almost entirely. you're reading it for vibes

>>24556610
>Reincarnated in Another World with a Cock Powered by the System: Only My Dick Levels Up?!?!? [LitRPG] [Reincarnation] [Progression] [Smut] [Harem] [Xianxia]
Douzo.

>>24556321
>>dialogue tag schizo
hey that's me!
pls anons just learn how they work. its not hard

>>24556610
>Reincarnated in Another World with a Cock that Heals Broken Hymen?!?! [LIT] [SEXO] [HARAM] [WUXIANXIA]
there's your idea, bro.

>>24556610
>Reincarnated as a female harem member of the hero party I have to escape before I'm raped

>>24556610
>Getting Transed in Another World: I'm the Most Beautiful Woman in Multiple Worlds

I keep bouncing between three ideas for my next book
>cancellation bait after A Certain Magical Index's style
>another dungeon crawling story, but with less or no litrpg this time
>generic reincarnation isekai MC appears underpowered but is ACKSHUALLY overpowered

However after finishing my last story arc I decided to stop consuming caffeine and I can barely copy and paste my chapters into royal road, let alone write more.

I dunno if good healthy sleep is worth it to be honest.

>>24556641
I'm telling you man, just make an infographic you can post in every thread showing how to do it properly.

>>24556459
>nuns
How has the weight loss been going, anon?

>>24556678
>cancellation bait after A Certain Magical Index's style
What does this mean

>>24556708
The story would have a similar vibe of an unfortunate protagonist dragged into problems because of his power (that he never wanted nor asked for). The problem is the nature of the power, which would be cancellation bait. No I won't say what it is here since I do intend to write it. The story would have "prejudice" as a theme which I'm sure wouldn't go over the heads of knee-jerk reactors.

>>24556610
Heir to an intergalactic crime family wakes up from a coma after the assassination of his father with total amnesia and has to run the organization.

>>24556610
>>24539393
here you go bro. make me proud.

>>24556610
you already know the don't dump everything in one go rule right?

>>24556678
>>cancellation bait after A Certain Magical Index's style
What does this mean?

>>24556708
>>24556793
my guess is that the mc's powers are that he cancels/negates other characters' powers/magic/etc? since that's what the mc in magical index has
maybe it lends itself to a particular type of conflict resolution and character arc

>>24556069
Nay.

For too long commercial artists have been putting on airs that what they do is about "expression" or "art". It isn't. It is satisfying the consoomer demand.

People (myself included) would rather have a few more fantasy books written in the style and following that pattern of Tolkein than all the derived fantasy slop that's come after or will come in the next 30 years. There will always be a place for true art, which AI by definition will not inhabit.

But some times a good formula just works, and for books like this it is not required that the be any "art" contained within. When you're writing isekai slop, you're making hamburgers.

>>24556802
No, it's that the power the MC has would be considered controversial IRL as well as in the story. The overall vibe is similar to Index in that the MC keeps getting dragged into conflicts because of his power.

>female protagonist
>women in position of power
I will not read your sloppa

>>24556836
your writing can be hamburgers but it's not imperative

>female protagonist
>sufferkino yuribait tragedy
I will now read your story

>>24556883
him? he's me

Dude I'm looking through reedsy for a freelance line editor and...they're so bad
I'm only clicking on people with big 5 experience, hundreds of books edited, and when they send me their line edit samples that shit is awful. not even line edits of my own work, but their curated choice they show off to customers
Are people really just this terrible at their job on average? Is this why they're freelancing now? do editors even matter?
Where do I find an actually good one?

>>24556920
>do editors even matter?
no. they never have
why are you paying a line editor for your slop?

>>24556920
Why the fuck would anyone ever want an editor
I don't comprehend

>>24556924
because i make enough money with my books it seems worth it for a professional editor
>>24556926
if i could find one that actually punched my manuscript up in a way I approved of, I would be happy to drop a few grand. the issue is the ones im contacting fucking suck

>>24556963
don't waste your money on an editor
they'll either suggest useless surface level edits or tell you to rewrite everything to their vision. either way you'll regret wasting your money. these days, most of them probably just run your shit through AI
just pay for grammarly

>>24557002
>just pay for grammarly
lol i dont have issue with proofing and grammar. im looking for line edits. improving the flow, clarity, and word choice
>don't waste your money on an editor
I'm going to at least try to find one i like. but im not dropping all the money at once. ill wait until i find a sample edit i like, then hire them for a few chapters, and then finally lock in

there's gotta be at least one non-shit line editor out there. surely....

had a go at the cover art. not an artist so i feel like it's kind of basic. feel free to request changes you'd like to see.

>>24557012
I'm sure they're out there. I suspect you'll get tired of dealing with them and give up long before discovering one
good luck. blog your experiences with them once you've worked with a few. curious how it goes

>>24557030
The thing is, I just have to suffer and find that one unicorn, then im set for life. it's not like i have to do it for each new book

>>24557027
I recommend making the title (or at least "Crow" and "Rabbit") clearly visible even in the 4chan thumbnail form.
Thumbnail clarity is more important than cover quality tbqh

>>24557012
>improving the flow, clarity, and word choice
That's something you as a writer should learn on your own

For example, look at the recent royalroad record breaker. "MAX LEVEL ARCHMAGE" in absolutely massive letters visible even when it's a tiny thumbnail
that's how you market internet sloppa, friends

>>24557052
I know how to do it myself, obviously. I get lots of compliments on my prose
Me caring about the line level is exactly WHY I want to get a line editor when 95% of litrpg sloplords don't. no matter how good you are at writing, a second pair of discerning eyes is invaluable

>>24557027
I like the direction. reminds me of the gray mouser covers
I don't like the round corners. maybe hard corners for the bottom, round corners on the top?
I agree with the sentiment of >>24557047 but I think you have a fine balance here
if you make the character art too small it'll turn into visual noise. as it is, the character art is immediately identifiable and you can make out the title. it's not completely clear but it is visually distinct unlike before
>drop shadow and black outline
it's that easy folks

>>24556751
to not info dump? yea. otherwise, no

>>24557091
chapter dump anon, do it slow, week by week or day by day, depends on your schedule

>>24557053
I'll keep that in mind when/if I write my next work, sounds like good advice.

>>24557053
it's not that you need a giga huge title on your cover, it's that your cover needs to have visual identity that is clear as a thumbnail

>niggas spending a lot of time and money on covers
Writing? No, we don't do that here

>>24557127
When you finally post something online with intent to attract readers, you'll understand

>>24557130
>99% of covers are AI
>80% of successful stories have AI covers
no, no I don't think I will

>>24556629
No. Draw.

Yeah, covers should be something discussed on /ic/. It utilizes art rules such as composition, contrast, values etc and isn't really a literary component at all.

>>24557127
I'm just going to ask my go-to artist to remake something like picrel and be done with it desu. but it's not something I'm going to worry about right now until I finish the outline and a portion of the first draft

>>24556920
>>24556924
>>24556963
>>24557002
do NOT get a line editor. There’s one on 4chan who always tries to get people to hire him on his fiverr account. Basically he charged me just to tell me he didn't like the story and that the plot should go in a vastly different direction.
Just use Grammarly.

>>24557139
whiny poster
post your fiction so I can review bomb you

>>24556500
yes i've done that kind of thing. Didn't need to do it with horses since I was around them a decent amount growing up.

>>24557134
>will never post his writing
yeah, we know, anon

>>24557143
>Just use Grammarly.
please see >>24557012
grammarly does not do line edits, you only need grammarly at all if you're kinda esl or illiterate desu, no offense meant

>>24557127
I only posted my cover since other people were posting their own, I didn't expect so many people to put work in on it.
I haven't spent money on the cover, I commission artwork of my characters for fun. The cover is just made from throwing text on top of that.
Asking about styles and layouts in a graphic design setting would be more productive, you are correct, but as this is a web novel general instead of writing general, talking about what audiences find appealing is relevant.

>>24557170
>supports human beings
very based
I thought you were an AI slave. your esteem grows with every post

>>24557084
thanks for the advice. i think i'll need to get rid of the ornaments if the text needs to be larger. let's see if this thumbnail works better.

>>24557084
thanks for the advice. i think i'll need to get rid of the ornaments if the text needs to be larger. let's see if this thumbnail works better.

>title is crow and rabbit
>picture is elf and frog

>>24557207
the "The"s being center aligned is giving me conniptions
try raising them to top align with Crow and Rabbit respectively
if you want some embellishments, you could add filigree to the top and left corners of the art work, but the art is fairly textured so anything on the cover art might become visual noise
could consider blurring the background of the art (not the monotone background) so that the character portrait doesn't bleed into the background

>>24557207
I liked the leaves. they looked nice

>>24556610
>I was reborn in another world with 1 max HP but my DDR practice gave me SSS+ rank evasion?!

>>24556708
It means the MC can only damage enemies by saying the n word

>>24557267
That's a pretty good way of putting it actually. It's not that, but same vibe. Also everyone knows that's his power and hate him for it even when he doesn't use it, and he gets dragged into conflicts where someone really really needs... that. I may write that one under a different pen name.

>>24556920
>do editors even matter?
line editors? no. for already published webfic? also no
the highest value of editors is the ability to tell authors "no this idea of yours sucks or doesnt work in practice, rewrite this plot point / redo this plot point / cut this filler"

>>24557296
editors are marketing agents who are responsible for giving your story bottom surgery
they're not really necessary outside of tradpub. if anon is after prose analysis he'd be better off having a critique circle

>>24556540
Stop gaslighting me, incel. I’m not the FFFag because I don’t write slop and find his cover to be disgusting. I’ll give his garbage a read and show you how much I hate it.
> Everyone except me. On the passenger seat of an expensive speedboat, clad in a reddish-brown wooden frame and powered by a cutting-edge magical engine, a young man casually reread his notes while a relaxing breeze was cooling down his worried mind and excited soul. The water is spotless, as if it isn’t afraid of me grasping at its private depths. And look at its surface—completely waveless. Wouldn’t it be good to live such a life? Wouldn’t it be good to live without a yesterday trying to devour my guts? Wouldn’t it be good to live without the weight of tomorrow crushing my back? Curb your enthusiasm, Rinaldo. Life loves irony, granting fools second chances so they can repeat the same mistakes. Well, as the foolishest of fools once said—third time’s the charm. He thought as he caressed the lake’s surface, noticing that, although the motorboat now racing across the water lacked a cheetah’s grace, the trail left by his hand was much wider than the boat’s.
Why is there a speedboat in a fantasy setting? Why are his descriptions and similes so bizarre and nonsensical? It’s garbage.
> ”For the last time, Rinaldo—don’t do it. You’re dishonoring our family and our republic. You are a Di Mario, and we don’t meddle with the Nobility.” The nephew appreciated his uncle’s effort to restrain the prideful roar that had made Gianroberto Di Mario---Maria’s Podestà---so feared and respected throughout the Empire and beyond.
He can’t use em dashes properly and just filled it with hyphens in one part, which is the cardinal sin of editing: being inconsistent with punctuation.
This was bad. Dropped.

>>24557311
I'd call you out for giving limp wristed baby criticism but I've seen your posts in /wg/ and you only ever make cinemasins level comments
if you're not him then leave a negative review on it
1 stars or less

>>24557316
I don’t have a RR account because it’s from Israel. I’m boycotting Israel.

>>24557248
blurred bg, fixed the text and gradient alignments. gonna take a break from my pc though. here's the psd if anyone wants to give a go at making changes.

https://files.catbox.moe/gif3sc.psd

>>24557253
you can play around with getting them to work nicely with large text if you want. the psd is above. if you don't have photoshop you can use a web browser clone of it on photopea.com (it's what i used to make this)

>>24557332
looking good anon. glad you liked my suggestions

>>24557302
I dont think critique circles line edit 100k manuscripts
how tf would you find a critique circle reliable enough to line edit for you anyway

>>24557385
They’d just steal it and post it themselves

>>24557385
100k manuscript would be a big ask. I have a group and we swap chapters/short stories and give the kind of analysis you're after
>how tf would you find a critique circle reliable enough to line edit for you anyway
poached from various corners of the internet. public critique circles and workshops are always, ALWAYS, packed to the brim with the dumbest mother fuckers you've ever met
I wouldn't do something like this without knowing the people involved and respecting their creative opinions/ability
>>24557385
crab

>>24557170
Cute elf, and good on you for being a commissionchad. I haven't read your story yet, is she the Crow or the Rabbit?

>>24556500
Doing background research is always respectable, but you may want to ask yourself at some point if the effort matches the goals, and you aren't investing too much in web slop.

>>24557583
horses are cool, even if the research isn't worth it the experience is

>>24557592
based life enjoyer
more rich life experiences can only be for the good of anyone's writing

>The general isn't even a month old and its already ruined
May this be a lesson for all sloppers, stay on your trooncord servers and stop shitting up my board
>T. /wg/GOD

>>24557650
hey gong tard, bored? fishing in both threads are we?
could try writing a new story. would expedite your learning process to start something new, your current story isn't worth continuing. even ignoring the bad press, with hindsight even the premise is terrible don't you think?
if you keep slacking you'll never end up writing anything worth reading you know?

>>24557656
Rent free, that wasn’t me. You’re seeing me everywhere?
>m-muh photoshop
Get a grip.

So he's finally admitted to being a samefag. Nice

>>24557662
>t.

Imagine sitting here for twelve hours a day just to take on half a dozen guises to shitpost under

>>24557670
I’m on holidays. I’ll be away in two weeks.

how are you supposed to go about commissioning a book cover anyway

>>24557674
r/starvingartists
You can get good ones for $150 USD

>>24557596
Real.
Frankly I feel like a lot of "nerd" professions actually really fucking suffer from being done by nolifers.
Writing, drawing, arguably even a good chunk of software development.
If it's just raw data processing being a spergatron 9000 that's never seen an ice cream parlor from the inside is fine but otherwise it actually takes away from things.
Bell Labs invented half the modern world just by making dorks socialize.
>>24556500
I learned how to synthesize amphetamine in order to write a lab scene well.

>>24557674
>message artist
>can I commission you for artwork I can use as a book cover?
>discuss copyright ownership or exclusive license
>come to an agreement
>tell them what you want and send inspiration
haven't done it but I can't imagine it's that hard

>>24557674
Look up an artist whose style you like and ask if they accept commissions, how the fuck else?

any recs for dungeon core stories?
I feel like I like the genre, but I can't name a single one that I'd call good

>I feel like I like the genre, but I can't name a single one that I'd call good
This but for interstellar

>I feel like I like the genre, but I can't name a single one that I'd call good
/webnovels/

>I feel like I like the genre, but I can't name a single one that I'd call good
any cultivation story really

why are cultivation stories not about cool shit like farming

>>24557712
beware of chicken, there i said it are you happy?

>>24557717
Beware of Chicken is only about farming in the first volume or so.

I just want to read a dungeon core story :(

>>24557691
>>24557738
Lewd Dungeon has the best loot (a terribly neglected part of dungeon core and litRPG in general) out of all dungeon core stories I have read.

>>24557691
It always ends up one of the following.
>I'm a heckin nice dungeon and I'm going to not kill anyone
>I'm a badass 14 year old dungeon with a harem of vampires and slime girls
>I'm going to be a dungeon for 20 chapters and then become some weird town hub and not be a dungeon anymore
I've read quite a few and always come away disappointed. Can't think of any that I would recommend.

>>24557753
What should a dungeon core story do then?

>>24557753
Lewd Dungeon is not like that at all, probably one of the few "evil" dungeon core stories that didn't lose my interest from the start.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/48893/the-dungeon-without-a-system
This one here seems popular but I dropped it because I don't care about seeing crabs kill humans and other shit like that.

>>24557765
It's actually not easy to say how a good dungeon core should be done. Most of the ones written for misanthropic edgelords fail to get me to root for the dungeon core while it slaughters more likeable adventurers, especially since their methods and dungeon designs can't make up for my inherent bias being for people rather than monsters.
But on the other hand, kiddie-friendly stories like the bee dungeon that make dungeons divine tools to cleanse the world and the main threat they have to fight off mindless monsters are also kinda lame.

I don't hate the idea of the nice dungeon core giving a safe home to the downtrodden fantasy races completely but far too many of them just feel like OP MC has absolutely no restraints and can just endless generate resources and space at no real cost.

>>24557765
Not be an isekai, namely. I like the vengeful spirit angle that Tenebroum took. If I was to write one it would be a naturally formed dungeon on ground where thousands died in a massive battle. Their vengeful spirits coalesce and form a dungeon core that can use necromancy. It simply wishes to kill those who enter it. It wants to have floors that reach kilometers downwards with tons of floors rather than expand on the surface.

Alternatively you could go the Wandering Inn route and create a vengeance dungeon that was created by a nation that was going to fall in war and wanted to fuck over their conquerors. Or make one that is the resting place of a sleeping eldritch abomination. One that is actually a vault for an ancient group of people who no longer exist, only protected by the magic constructs they left behind.

Whether created or natural, a dungeon should be written like how undead often are. A force that wishes to kill the living. Or it's indifferent and just wishes to kill intruders. I don't need human morals in a dungeon. Dungeons are for adventurers to either die in or make it big with a haul of riches.

>>24557807
>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/54416/dragonheart-core
Something like this?

Some premises are inherently bad.

>>24556003 (OP)
Now we are cooking.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/125106/hegemon-of-shongha
Decided to start with 1.2K words chapter, and work on releasing a new chapter a week.
Doubt I'll get more than 50 views, but that's fine.

>>24557815
>Some premises are inherently bad.
Indeed, that's why I avoid pretty much all classical literature.

>>24557816
You aren't actually going to hand over the sister to the goosh goosh sounding dude, right?

>>24557814
Haven't read this but the premise is fine enough. I think that vengeance is the easiest way to write a proper dungeon protagonist. Like the other anon mentioned, often when you have these isekai protagonists it becomes some weird resource generator for the them to exploit and they end up living in a very non-dungeon way.

Alternatively you can go some kind of xianxia route. Perhaps when some big shot immortal ascended he created a dungeon spirit to manage a dungeon that must be completed before someone can ascend to the next realm. Or maybe it was made by the gods themselves to recruit mortals. These are all far more interesting premises in my opinion.

>>24556386
What's your story?

>>24557816
>Shongma
>Shongha
Which one is it?

>>24557824
>Alternatively you can go some kind of xianxia route.
That could work, a "mystic realm core" that doesn't strictly want to kill cultivators but benefits from the insights and advancements they make while within it so it tries to constantly test and challenge them while actually not having an incentive to just commit mass murder (of course, it being xianxia there will still be lots of suicidally stupid young masters and mobs who get themselves killed). E.g. if one of the disciples comprehends a Dao while inside the dungeon it would be a million times more valuable to the core than slaughtering trillions of talentless trash.

>>24557816
So, The Heroic Legend of Arslan?

>>24557815
name ONE

>>24557765
like a fantasy safari exhibition, inventing and exploring cool ecologies and life forms
like a war strategy story between the dungeon and adventurers, each side pitting new tactics against each other in an attempt to out maneuver the other
like a comfy slice of life story that has a sense of verisimilitude that makes you feel attached to the dungeon as a familiar space

it's like when monster evo stories have the protagonist turn into a human. the story promises a dungeon, give me a DUNGEON

>>24557820
Wow, someone actually read it. Thanks for your time.
I'm not sure, honestly, this is the most pantser work I've worked on. I have faint ideas where things will go.

>>24557828
I guess fucked myself, but the only mistake is the title. It's Shongma.
I changed the title on the page, but the URL will stay as mistyped; I guess that's fine.

>>24557765
I've enjoyed good engineering solutions and archeological findings from digging expansion.

Having said that I don't mind harem , I'm one of the few that enjoyed Blue Core

>>24557847
>I guess that's fine
It isn't. It shows you don't care and aren't professional. If you don't care, why should a reader care?

>>24557841
I'm actually slowly reading Arslan and LOGH books.
So, Tanaka's writing is definitely an inspiration. I clearly admire how he moves things along.

Regardless, hopefully it will be different enought.

>>24557851
oh fuck off

>>24557826
I said Scribblehub but it's also on RR https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/117925/the-yellow-typhoon-and-the-final-waltz

>>24557849
>Having said that I don't mind harem , I'm one of the few that enjoyed Blue Core
It's not THAT unpopular, harem haters are just extremely vocal and rabid.

>>24557855
Why would you link to the RR page instead of the Scribblechad page?

>>24557839
>it benefits from the insights they make
I like the premise. It could provide benefits to the cultivators who do well through insights it's collected, cultivation resources and martial techniques. These kind of dungeons for protagonists to gain insights and power up in aren't all that unique (DoTF's Tower of Eternity / Primal Hunter's Nevermore) but being told from the perspective of the dungeon itself could be fun.

How do I write better descriptions? I can easily pump out tons of dialogue that flows decently well, I can write action and navel gazing, but when it comes to descriptions my brain just freezes. How do I get from 'uh, there was an oak tree and it was big and green' to something actually readable?

>>24557851
Why would people care about the urls? Especially since it has id either way.

>>24557170
> bratty looking flat chested elf
NGHHHHH I'm taking her again!

jokes aside, I took inspiration from your design for my female love interest below in pic rel. now I just need to write an actual premise for her...

>>24557853
Arslan's great and there aren't many stories like that, but it takes a lot of skill to do right. You need both tactical thinking, but also understanding of humans, and writers rarely can do both.

>>24557861
idk just dont detailmax?

let the viewers imagine on their own is my go to for descriptions but I do like writing where the author's descriptions just goes stream of consciousness and just bounces around and focuses on random parts of whatever it was they were looking at.

>>24557858
It wasn't really worth linking to the ScribbleHub one imo

>>24557861
I find animalism (or whatever it is called is useful) for avoiding passive shit.
Instead of saying as you said:
>There was an big green oak tree.
You can say something figurative like:
>A tree above all others shadowed the others with its enormous size, and its fresh greenness, no bush, shrub or or flower could deny their envy of it.

>>24557861
Think about what the tree's purpose in the story is in the first place and why you're describing it at all.

>>24557861
if you want to craft talk about it, go to /wg/
if you want functional advice, choose an emotion and touch on a few of the 5 senses to try and match that emotion
writing really good description is hard and there isn't really an objective answer

>>24557849
blue core was based af.

harem haters are the same people that cry wolf when they voluntarily go out of their way to read NTR stories and get mad.

>>24557027
"Crow & Rabbit" sounds a lot better IMO

>>24557884
Crow X Rabbit you mean

Crow RE; Rabbit

Re: Crow X Rabbit : Royal

>>24557885
Sure, but the double "the" thing is kinda overdone, Crow & Rabbit is more concise, pops out more on a cover, easier to tell other ppl what it is, feels more distinctive. Biggest downside is that it could be a pub's name.

>>24557884
hard disagree
using 'the' feels more fantasy. Crow & Rabbit sounds like a pair of sex toys

>>24557884
>>24557885
>>24557887
>>24557890
A Murder of Rabbits

>>24557864
Characters in Arslan are certainly it's strength.
I'm not so sure about the tactics.
Like the battle of Atropatene is kinda stupid. Parsians have no formations or strategy beyond just:
>CAVALRY CHARGE!
Stuff like siege towers in field battles is impractical.

>>24557896
Murder of Crow Rabbits

>>24557896
I...Kinda like it?

>>24557896
A Fluffle of Crows

>>24557896
Crow X Rabbit : Rising

>>24557884
>>24557885
>>24557887
>>24557890
>>24557891
>>24557894
>>24557896
>>24557899
author here;
I have thought about changing the title to "Black Crow, Grey Rabbit" a few times but it doesn't have the same feel.

>>24557918
Black Rabbit, Grey Crow is better. just dont fucking change the title like the retards like me here have suggested. you've made your title vague anyways, dont pussy out

>>24557918
>"Black Crow, Grey Rabbit"
Mentioning their colors would make more sense if their colors were different from what is expected.

That said, it should be:
>Crabbits in a Bucket

Warrens & Murders

Landplane Up

elf that kills you

>>24557939
Elf that fucks like a Rabbit with a crowd of Anons

>>24557918
That title sucks no offense, as above said it would only make sense if it was counter to logic.
If you actually wanted to game the title then Crow and Rabbit (& makes it more difficult to search) and then : some sub title that gives a hook for the reader.

I like "The Crow and The Rabbit" as a title thoughbeit, but I think it looks better as a title if you format it like
>The Crow
> (and)
>The Rabbit
or
>(the) Crow
> And
>(the) Rabbit

() meaning small

>>24557855
I saw your personal site link on your rr profile. I have a similar style site. We could like make a webring or something haha. jk jk unless..?

>>24557950
the offset and is cute and whimsical
which isn't really appropriate for his story honestly

>>24557954
Good point, I haven't read it.

How does anyone get noticed organically on royal road, it's a total meme right? There's no way you get noticed without buying an ad.

>>24557959
buy an ad or make a deal with a cabal. As the site grows and more stories show up, the harder it is to be noticed from uploads alone, especially if people are flooding the site with genAI trash.

>>24557959
On top of writing a good serial story, you also need to be an active and visible member of genre-specific and adjacent fandom communities, a marketing executive, a graphic designer, a brand identity designer, a PR manager, a copywriter, buy ads, be willing to participate in shout-out cabals, etc etc

/wng! I offer you my first born!
GRANT ME MY WISH!

>>24557975
what do you ask of the honorable and esteemed members of this general?

>>24557977
nothing more than the secret texts of the Rising Stars sect

I'm lookikg for non-human protagonist sloppa like re:monster, do you guys know anything like that?

>>24557959
Newest fiction tab? I use it sometimes and I often recommend web novels to my friends. That seems the most "organic" way to me. If a novels cover art isn't ai generated and looks like 2008 deviantart-tier amateur artwork then I am much more likely to click on it. If the description is short and sweet rather than an entire chapter with the typical "what to expect: no fricken harem, weak-to-strong, starts slow but will build fast" generic description tagged on at the end then I will ignore it.

>>24557992
I think most users aren't as proactive in their discovery process as you

>>24557984

ha! frog trapped in a well, blame this upon the misfortune of your birth

the dao that can be taught is not the true dao

you either have the aptitude to get unto the Rising Stars sect or you don't

prostrate yourself before their cliques, you will simply be a rock in their path and a stepping stone if you are lucky enough

pay the sect as much as you would like and be met with applause to then quickly fade away once the money stops

this seat recommends to simply enjoy the writer's journey to its fullest and weather the capricious whims of fate

but know this and rejoice

only through genuine good writing and not trend chasing will you gain the chance to get an wage living as a writer

>>24557989
Literotica counts as webnovels if it's longform enough, right?
https://www.literotica.com/s/the-beast-18
It has three sequels and is far more goody-two-shoes than Re:Monster but at least the MC is pretty monstrous without sacrificing the harem slop aspect.

>>24558001
genuine good writing and trend chasing are not mutually exclusive

>>24558003
What do you think is literotica's male to female ratio?

>>24557989
How about "I'm A Spider So What?"

you can tell everyone here is too lazy to be successful because if you had any balls you'd publish on webnovel
what's that? Scared of a little 1500 word per day requirement? That's right keep posting on 4chan.

>>24558017
that isn't the problem, it's signing your rights away to webnovel

>>24558007
Not sure but allegedly it's high.

>>24558017
my mom gave me a 500 coins giftcard for my birtday. i cant wait to read 2% of shadow slave with it.

>>24558018
Oh really? Post your work that has chapters daily. I'll wait.

>>24558025
so, I guess rape heavy works there aren't popular

>>24558033
I'm still backlogging haha

>>24558044
Nah, rape isn't unpopular exactly, it's just that haremfags aren't into it, at least not the western ones who congregate in places like the haremlit reddit or erotica sites that all have a rather simpy, feminist attitude. Women love rape, anyway, but they don't like male wishfulfillment stories.

>>24557937
Here, you deserve this:

(You)

>>24557027
Take the title, blow it apart, and organize it diagonally so it follows the blade.

>>24557677
It's incredibly hard.
>search twitter, gelbooru, pixiv
>make a list of illustrators you like
>find their contact info
>delete the artists who are trannies or feminists
>once you've got 20 or so illustrators send out emails asking if they take comissions
>10 of them will not respond
>5 of them are currently closed to commissions
>narrow it down to 5 illustrators
>pick your favorite
>pay them
>get a rough sketch
>approve it
>wait 4 to 8 months
>get the final version
>hate it
>ask for revisions
>wait 6 to 10 more months
>get the revised version back
>still hate it
>get ghosted
>end up with a shitty cover you hate and $1,000 gone
>download Stable Diffusion
>generate 200 covers in an afternoon
>touch them up in photoshop
>laugh at seething illustrators

>>24558017
I haven't stooped low enough to become a chink sweatshop slave

>>24558079
many artists will have their commission status already displayed on their website profiles.
there are websites designed to expedite this entire process
a lot of your description says you are working with professional artists.
There is no reason to be going to that kind of person for a book you will be putting on royal road that will have a cover squished down to 600x1000 anyway. Put your ego aside, find some hobby artist with a style you like and you can get a good cover for anywhere from 80 to 200 usd.

>>24557027
In case you prefer something worn out

we /gd/ now

>try reading the author of 12 Miles Below's newest story
>It has a system
>the system is using emojis and internet lingo
yup, you've earned a drop. i hate system sloppa and even more-so when the system itself is some goofy ass character with reddit humor. all system niggers will die by my hand inshallah.

>>24558131
/gd/, /jp/, /biz/, /soc/
everything but /lit/

>>24558097
>professional artist
I contacted literal fan artists and people who make posters for Mondo. They're not professionals.
>There is no reason to be going to that kind of person
No. You can hire anyone to do anything if you have the money.
>find some hobby artist with a style you like and you can get a good cover for anywhere from 80 to 200 usd.
No. AI can make better art than the illustrators on Fiver, who also take more than 6 months to deliver a single piece.

>>24558144
this person is praying for the downfall of the human race

>>24558138
I kinda want to write a version of DCC where the system is like an amalgamation of the worst (best) kind of 4chan users but only Japan would let me get away with that.

Pic related are Kinoman's stats.
Really impressed by them.
I guess all that spamming paid off.

>>24558145
>Waaaah! Pay me to make mediocre Yugioh tier art or the human race will perish!
If illustrators werent such a massive pain in the ass to deal with, I would gladly hire them. Hell, I found a pretty good artist on /pol/ once and tried to commission him. He wouldnt even make a throwaway email so we could discuss prices. Ok. Piss my money away. I'll go to stable diffusion, I guess.

>>24558146
[Identify]

Deathshroom (High Quality)

Description: This shit is more poisonous than Chinese bugman gutter oil. Unless you have are a 50 RES chad you will be deathmaxxing shortly after consumption.

>>24558144
fan artists aren't asking 1k
>fiver
maybe this is your problem?

>>24558158
Unfortunately, other than calling Chinese bugmen all the other things have long spilled over to general internet culture and wouldn't really rustle anyone's jimmies.
I think to really shock anyone you have to have lots of cute and funny rape and death or the like. Even if I go full misogynist I would just be called an incel and downvoted without people being all that shocked or captivated.

>>24556015
>>24554894

reporting in

i did it 1200 words
even with walpipi going on i made the slop

>>24558198
Based gong farmer

o shit erraticerrata finally put apgte on royalroad

would this be a good layout for a rentry?
https://rentry.co/r56vcpa3

>>24558303
This person requested to be added https://moonquillnovels.com/book/panics-present

Gotta be honest with you guys, seeing this number go up is the only thing keeping me from KMS

>>24558079
>>24558144
I've commissioned dozens of pieces of art. I won't lie, there are a lot of unreliable artists that will ghost you. But you can find a decent enough guy on /ic/ for $40 bucks. And you can find really, really good ones for like $350. Doesn't matter if AI art is better than fiverr jeets, people still wont take you seriously

>>24558356
>google docs
please be careful

>>24558361
Why? What’s wrong with a google doccy?

>>24558365
privacy concern schizos
they think google is gonna steal their shitty manuscript that people don't want to read for free

Got more responses back from "industry pros" on Reedsy, their line edits are universally terrible
One at least had consistent proofreading skills (not what I'm looking for, i have hordes of royal retards for that)
Maybe it's the ones who respond fast that are bad? Their quotes are really low too, like .015c a word
Holding out hope, anons...

>>24558393
I think the probem with one line edits is that they feel the need to edit every line.
Not every line in a 300 page story needs to be nitpicked

>>24558435
>people try to make as much money as possible when given the opportunity
whoa, shocking

>>24558435
Ironically I have the opposite issue, the sample edits barely touch the ms with like a few changes a page, and the changes are sidegrades or outright bad
>>24558479
wym if they were clocking it in they would do as few edits as possible. they get paid either way

I've been looking through https://www.the-efa.org/hiring/ and finding a bunch of freelancers with their own websites. I'm wondering if I'll have better luck there. They offer free sample edits of your own work usually, so it's no risk from a money standpoint. Seems like a pita though

>>24558435
Maybe yours does.

>>24558510
As a side note it seems like a slightly unethical cheatcode for you anons to get real feedback on your first chapter's prose, you'll just have to pose like you have a full ms ready lmao.

most people here don't need an editor and especially not an editor unfamiliar with the web novel scene
just read more, acquire higher standards for yourself, and do it yourself.

>>24558529
>just read more, acquire higher standards for yourself, and do it yourself.
I do my own editing already ofc but every writer knows that you're blind to your own work, at a certain point you can't "do it yourself" anymore.
I'm not necessarily expecting good advice, it's just a conversation topic and pseudo blog posting, but on-topic blog posting
Or should we go back to a multi-thread spergout about FFF-anon?

>>24556155
You must put a female character with big breasts or it won't catch attention

>>24558543
female with flat chest is even better
see >>24556003 (OP)

Editing is necessary but if you aren't averaging 2k a day it's just a cope for shit productivity.

>>24558543
You might be right, but I still won't change the cover.
>7 hours and 18 views
I presume the followers are from this thread (which I greatly appreciate).
I still expected to get at least 50... My previous work had an even shittier cover, and it got 100 views, within a few hours

>>24558578
2k is a bit high, I would set the bar at 3 chapters a week of 2000-3000, so 7500 a week on average. a tad over 1k
I think the only stories you need daily 2k releases for is the sloppiest sloppa litrpg grindfest like primal hunter. if you're writing something more character and story driven, readers are perfectly fine with 3x weekly

>>24558588
you'll need daily to make the most of a RS run though right

>>24558592
yeah sure but you get your backlog in advance. 2k daily = 14k a week which is not the average release rate for popular rr stories
if you can manage it, great. more is def. better. but 14k a week would burn me out, and many others. just pushing back against the idea that this is the norm

>>24558592
to elaborate on this:
first you need to get onto RS. that can happen with a normal posting rate + running ads if you have a solid story. a big backlog to dump 2x daily for like 3 weeks helps a ton though.

once you ARE on rising stars, daily releases helps pump up your view stat, which can get you onto Popular This Week, which is a great source of consistent traffic separate from RS. and a more mainstream audience too. if you get onto page 1/2 of PTW though you're doing extremely well, probably made it to the front page (top 7) of rising stars

when it comes to release I just recommend hitting RS; PTW is out of reach for most newbies.
So either
1. shout outs from big names (or lots of medium names)
2. ads (and good story)
3. ridiculous backlog to dump en masse over the first month (and good story)
Some people say you need all 3 but they're misguided. you don't. you only need to take 1 of those paths
i recommend normal size backlog and an ad. but if you're poor, you need to go the massive chapter dump path, and you'll still have to pray somewhat

actually there's a new meta i find kind of cringe, but rewriting has worked out for a few people. so do one of those strats, and if you fail to get RS, you can just wait a few months of posting then take the story down and post it again with your existing audience flocking to support it.

honestly...crow and rabbit anon...this strat could be pretty big for you

Backloggin' all day
Backloggin' all night
Got a rainy day plan and it's watertight.
If writer's block or cancer comes my way
Can't afford an upload delay
I'll never let my stockpile disappear.
I got a buffer for the rest of the year.

Too late for the dungeon core talk, so probably talking to the void here, but I feel the same, I think a dungeon core story is quite hard to write as at its core (unintended) it's a story with only one character and no scenery change, so writers feel the need to include characters that can go farther than the main.
I actually got around writing the outline for one a few months ago, but deleted it on a moody day, now I'm regreting. Let it be a lesson to never delete your writing, even for how shit it may be.

>>24558138
do you even like webnovels

>>24558646
litrpg is popular but that doesn't mean all web novels are litrpg
disliking system slop is hardly strange. coming from someone who reads (some) of it

>>24558588
Oh don't get me wrong I'm by no means advocating for 2k updates daily. I'm just saying that you need to train yourself up to that level so you actually have enough breathing room for deep edits in the first place.
Personally I'm actually team 2x updates even if that's hardly meta.

>>24558617
It's what I'm planning on doing desu.

>>24558646
Anon by your logic you're not allowed to like action movies if you hate MCU quipping.

>>24558671
want me to punch up your summary and ch1 in advance? it's something I like doing. of course, reject or adapt changes as you see fit.

the blurb is especially important. i'm glad you're improving your cover. that your story has gotten ~650 followers outside of RS means you might pop off on a relaunch, so i'm excited to see how that goes

>want to write a litrpg
>only MMO i ever played was Life is Medieval: Your Own
>only RPGs i’ve played are Morrowind, Skyrim, and Underrail

now that i think about it have most litrpg writers even played RPGs?

>>24558697
Oh no apologies I'm NTA just a random schmuck who's definitely planning on doing that because I need the panic of deadlines to stay motivated and thus have a really small backlog.

>>24558704
>he never played anything developed in China, Japan, or Korea
your litrpg is gonna lack that particular brand of 'tism, unfortunately

>>24558704
Lol no.

>>24558712
Ah, well good luck to you too

>>24558715
i’ve played amazing cultivation simulator

>>24558719
Thank you kindly

>bump limit in under a day with minimal sperging
Wew

>>24558617
>honestly...crow and rabbit anon...this strat could be pretty big for you
I'm almost done, I'm not going to do that. Ill work the website with my next story.

>>24558704
>now that i think about it have most litrpg writers even played RPGs?
I am pretty sure most of them have played only Skyrim and maybe a couple of MMORPGs. Or at least they only took inspiration from those. I think I've seen more litRPGs take inspiration from MOBAs than from actual D&D (video games), aside from common D&D races/monsters.

>>24558723
Just like writing web novels, bakers need to beat their daily quota.

>>24558715
the systems of Shin Megami Tensei: IMAGINE Online would make an incredible litrpg

>>24558724
fair enough
i already started on your blurb because i thought other anon was you, so i went and finished it
it's just a first pass so I'm sure there's parts you don't like or that missed the point. feel free to ignore, i genuinely just enjoy poking through prose. maybe it's why i can't find a line editor i like

The world is full of evil.
Thieves, oppressors, murderers. They do as they please, leaving in their wake broken trails of victims. Ferene hates this world. But she is no prey. She is a killer that turns her blade on evil, culling one unworthy life at a time.Yet the world is more than single lives, single evils, single deeds.

The world is unfair.
One cannot choose how they are born. But they can choose how to live.{Linara's circumstances prevent her from having what she wants the most. Yet her upbringing gives her an unfair advantage in other areas.} [This is vague and kind of limp, especially the second sentence, and I can't rework because I don't know the character. Be more direct with your hook. Give something that intrigues the reader and makes them want to know more about her!]

The world is vast and full of wonder.
To the south of the mountain wall, humans engage in human trivialities, slaughtering thousands over lines drawn on a map. Taradira recognizes the war that matters: to the north, threatening their very survival. She must crush this pointless squabbling and unite her people before it is too late.

This is a grim fantasy story.
It will have:
- A morally gray protagonist that makes mistakes
- An exploration of the cruelty of humanity
- A world that is hostile to the people living in it
- Non-magical fantasy races
- Non-magical fantasy monsters
- Tragic and depressing moments

>>24558775
How did 4chan become so feminized?

>>24558784
Autism + HRT
It's ogre

>>24558775
>This is a grim fantasy story.
>It will have:
>- A morally gray protagonist that makes mistakes
>- An exploration of the cruelty of humanity
>- A world that is hostile to the people living in it
>- Non-magical fantasy races
>- Non-magical fantasy monsters
>- Tragic and depressing moments
>
fantasy hard-boil, fantasy noir.
I like the idea.

>>24558784
jews, of course.

>>24558784
fmc>mmc

>>24558581
I liked it. Reads easy

I'm thinking still no rentry for the OP, what do you all think? On one hand it’s nice to advertise, but on the other it might not be worth the meltie when a certain someone sees he’s been excluded from it

>>24558784
Writers in general lean leftist and feminine.

>>24558851
Rentry anon here, I still have it saved, but I'm waiting for some time before making the decision to put it live again, and I would prefer to have the authors themselves express if they want to have it or not. One for example, wanted to pull their work from it.
Some anon(s) made a pastebin and >>24558303 made a better version of it, but I'm against posting without the author's consent.

>>24558775
It's a pretty shit blurb, to be honest. You waffle about the world being X but "full of evil" is a lame way to phrase it. There's just nothing there to catch attention.

>>24558910
Disagree (I am the editor anon not crow and rabbit anon)
The 2nd portion is weak as I noted, but the 1st paragraph and 3rd clearly establish a character and their motivations. that is much more than most posts here do
How are
>MC hates this world and hunts down criminals
>3rdMC needs to crush ongoing wars and unite for a more important one to the north
not hooks?
It establishes tone, character, and an idea of what these characters are working toward

>full of evil is a lame way to phrase it
Well, I won't fully disagree, I probably would present this differently. The parallelisms are somewhat interesting, but I'm not fully certain I like them in the end. "World" is repeated too much, and it's obviously for effect, but ehhh.
I was only doing line edits though, not reworking it entirely

It's one of the best blurbs I've seen posted to 4chan desu. But that's not saying too much unfortunately

i actually feel bad because people started editing my cover/blurb and now those people are getting called out for things that were my choices.

>>24558976
Based rabbitanon
Don't feel bad about it, people just like your work. In a way, it's working as a brainstorm exercise.

>>24558932
The thing is, I feel like most readers don't have the attention span to read past the first sentence. The tripartite structure is poetically neat but it wouldn't hook me. Maybe I'm just pulling this shit out of my ass, but I vaguely remember that the ideal length for a blurb is three paragraphs.

Also kind of confusing to have three people in the blurb and only one in the bullet points, frankly.

I've got nothing to go on except the posted blurb, which is too little to really rework it, I think. I don't know what these three women have in common. The standard fantasy blurb would be something like
>Three women - a killer, a [?] and a [?] - have to work together to [?]
and then elaborate in a single line per woman what her deal is. If that even is the intent here.

>>24559014
>Also kind of confusing to have three people in the blurb and only one in the bullet points, frankly.
There is one main character and the 2nd and 3rd books feature a secondary character's PoV. 60% of the story is following only one character.

>I've got nothing to go on except the posted blurb, which is too little to really rework it, I think. I don't know what these three women have in common. The standard fantasy blurb would be something like
>>Three women - a killer, a [?] and a [?] - have to work together to [?]
they don't. These are three separate characters whose paths cross(multiple times) but they do not form a long-term party. Each works towards their own goals independently, working with the others only during overlaps.

>>24559014
>but I vaguely remember that the ideal length for a blurb is three paragraphs.
the blurb is three paragraphs
>Three women - a killer, a [?] and a [?] - have to work together to [?]
this might work better if they indeed all get together in the first book and are working toward a common goal, but that very much might not be the case. idk, i didn't read. i was only doing line edits, taking what was there and punching it up
One paragraph per major character with their own relevant hooks each seems to me a totally valid blurb strategy though
In any case I'm not saying it's the best I've ever seen, it's like a 6-7/10 at best, but the thing is, most blurbs I see posted are 4/10s, dipping into genuine 1 or 2/10s for the worst. This one actually does tone, character, motivations, which was a holy shit moment for me because that doesn't happen in these parts

>>24558832
Appreciate it.
I do find it strange how people say that. If I were to post this on some writing forum (like I have before), I'm sure people there would complain about "white room", i.e. not enought visual descriptions.
But I have never understood it. To me there needs to be enought descriptions to paint a scene, anything more is a hindrance, because it ultimately puts the story on a pause.
Visuals are Achilles heel of a novel, no matter how many words you might devote to the description of something, a simple drawing says more.

Anyone baking?

New bread
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>>24557753
>It always ends up one of the following.
I read Dungeon Core Chat Group and it didn't hit any of these gripes but in the end I thought it was just ok.