what does /lit/ think of it?

First few arcs were good (especially Water 7) but it fell off hard. Oda seems to be more interested in giant setpiece fights and introducing new characters than actually developing the characters we already have.

>>24557943 (OP)
Could not be further from literature

>>24557943 (OP)
Went to shit after the time skip. The pacing was dragged down to a painful slog so bad that it was insulting to ask anyone to care about the series anymore. It became low effort slop.

>>24557943 (OP)
Skypiea was oda's masterpiece, it felt like a fairy tail.

Always was and always will be kino
Whole Cake was repetitive and Punk Hazard sucked but mostly it's fantastic and will be considered a genuine masterpiece

>>24557943 (OP)
I'm too smart to be called /lit/ but all tranime is garbage.

>>24557996
Booba became bigger tho

I have no tolerance for stories that drag things out and are poorly paced. Especially when it's never ending nonsense in a serialized format. Ever on-going series can work when it's episodic but endless never ending serialized bullshit can go die in a fire.

Also I think the vast majority of the charcter designs are fucking stupid and the overall story telling is lame.

>>24557943 (OP)
shonenshit like the rest of 'em. only shonen worth anything is attack on titan

>>24557943 (OP)
>A children’s comic book
>What does /lit/ think of it?
It’s suitable for kids/teens/YA, that’s it.

>>24557943 (OP)
more like One Peak lol!

>>24558396
unfortunately and I'm very much ashamed to say that it's mostly read by grown ass men.

>>24558424
I’m well aware of that, but it’s really no surprise. It’s the same with most pop culture stuff.
What does bug me is people who read it (and manga/comic books in general) tend to think of it as high art.

>>24557943 (OP)
I think I like huge tits and asses, but it's still not literature.

>>24557943 (OP)
I watched it all in covid.
It's shonen slop but it has it's interesting references to culture and /lit/. Usually every island tries to mimic either real countrie's culture (For example, Arabasta being an arabic country, or Dressrosa being Spain) or some kind of cinematic or literary genre (For example, Whole cake is full of references to Alice in wonderland, Wano is full of references to Kurosawa).
One thing that I'm proud of understanding due to /lit/ is the name of Usopp.
Usopp is a character who is always creating stories and he is introducing by pranking his town telling them that pirates are coming, and when the pirates actually come nobody beliefs him. He also has a long nose lile Pinocchio when lying.
Usopp's name is formed by the words Uso (Lie in japanese) and Aesop (Which means "stories creator in greek, but it is also the name of the fables writer who wrote the story of the kid who pranked his town telling them about a wolf in tje forest, but when the real wolf appeared nobody believed him).
Franky is Frankenstein. Don Quixote is obvious, but there is actually one more Don Quixote character in Skypiea. Nami might be Izanami. There are lot more but I haven't watched it in like 5 years.

>>24557943 (OP)

>>24558389
The only shonen worth anything is Jojo's because it's self aware of being a shonen and doesn't take itself seriously.
>main villain of the series can stop time
>"Hmmm, wouldn't this fight be even more fun to watch if the protagonist could also stop time? Fuck it. He can also stop time now."
>proceeds to write the best fight in all shonen history

>>24558520
>One thing that I'm proud of understanding due to /lit/ is the name of Usopp.

>>24558535
It made sense to me. If dio can stop time because he has The World so he can control the world, but star platinum is not part of the world. Its outside of the world and whatever bullshit. Its what I was thinking as a kid at the time.

>>24558535
my bad guys, forgot about the first goku-vegeta fight

GREAT: Arlong Park/Skypiea/Water 7/Enies Lobby/Marineford/Impel Down
>VERY GOOD: Sabaody/Alabasta/Dressrosa/Wano/Elbaf (so far/Egghead/Jaya
GOOD: Drum Island/Baratie/Orange Town/Little Garden/Whole Cake/Amazon Lily
>EH: Thriller Bark/Fishman Island/Punk Hazard/LRLL/Syrup Village

>>24558539
You niggas made me read the greeks. Now bare the consequences.

>>24558580
Dragon Ball, Z specifically, takes itself seriously.

>>24558587
>bare

>>24557943 (OP)
garbage that's taking too long to finish

>>24557943 (OP)
The world building is kino. The characters are annoying and the fights are too long.

>a short conversation drops a smidgeon of actually interesting lore about the world government
>feelintriguedman.jpg
>next 80 pages are just rubber boy shrieking about friendship and punching a pirate
>mfw

Dropped

>>24557943 (OP)

Never watched or read it even though I watch anime. Too old to start since it's made for little kids

>>24558672
Thats a dumb take to have. Theres many children's books worth reading at any age. I'll agree that it is long and tiresome.

>>24557943 (OP)
one piece fan here. do not get into it. its not worth the 1,100+ chapters and then having to consume dozens of hours of lore and theory videos in order to understand what's actually going on. the story also gets worse over time like almost all long running manga.

honestly just don't consume manga or anime in general unless its something really good like a miyazaki film or legend of galactic heros.

>>24558535
>this slop is kino actually because it knows it's slop!
the lampshading = good meme needs to end. I like Jojo too but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone not already into shonen. attack on titan is shonen but it also transcends the genre into a must for anybody interested in appreciating kino.

>>24557943 (OP)
Slop with never ending as every niponshit
>Berserk
>Juan Piss
>Dragon Ball
>Detective Conan
>Saint Seiya
>Pokémon
>Doramon
I can't believe there are people wasting its time reading those shit. Plus, Urasawa is the only good mangaka, he always finish his job. Special mention to Araki.

>>24558734
worth anything =/= kino

>>24558847
Life is too short to consume non-kino

>>24557943 (OP)
It was good when it was still about Pirates, it sucked once it became about fighting the shadow government. So up until Dressrossa.

>>24558769
Berserk was good until the Tower of conviction arc. After that it just became a generic dark-fantasy manga with poor character development.

>>24557943 (OP)
Single greatest work of the 21st century. The subtle undertones of marines being the good guys but forced to do sinister things mirrors the pirates being lawless people that just want to be free. That you must join the one world government but there are places that can hold out due to their own strength is a testament to the human need for struggle. Finally the dragons and the (occupied) empty throne. The face of the elites and the shadow masters behind them treating them as if they are untouchable.
It will be seen as a revolutionary work one day.

>>24557943 (OP)
is there any super long manga like this that stay good the whole run? i'd hesitate to say Berserk ever got bad but it certainly peaked early

>>24557943 (OP)
it had potential to be a good show cuz of its excellent dark lore. But only if they were serious about the story and by that I mean if it wasn't some shonen type anime with themes like "friendship".

>>24557943 (OP)

It’s the most impressive saga created since the Ancient Greek classics. A masterpiece

Source: I have a degree from an expensive private liberal arts college

best currently ongoing work of literature on the planet. pure kino. the story does drag some after the timeskip but it's still good. it's been picking up again since wano ended though and there have been payoffs to things set up 25 years ago which is fun. i will say it's a great time to start reading it because it is going to end in 5 years or so to much global fanfare, so you have a good window to read it at a leisurely pace. (the anime is good if you want to watch it but the manga is better, faster to read, has zero filler). i love one piece :)

>>24558535
part 2 was the best part I loved pillarmen.
sad that they weren't explored further

I remember when it first played on TV in the early 2000s and I caught it at like episode 12 and thought
>Damn I'll never catch up now
And didn't watch it

>>24559761
Part 8 my nigga

>>24559742
I can't wait for one piece to end and for everyone to get disappointed by what the "one piece" actually is then everyone is going to 180 on the series and discount the entire series because of it. Maybe then people will stop overrating this overly-long children's tv show.

>>24557943 (OP)
Stop spamming your shitty soulless chink-drivel scribbles on here pretending they compare with goosebumps books, let alone actual literature.

>>24558535
>and doesn't take itself seriously.
That's not some shield that defends it from being poorly written garbage.

>>24558769
You see, that's the thing. Comics had arcs that come to a hard close and have a bunch of different writers pick up properties and give their spin on them....But manga never fucking dies, and just keeps going, and going, and going, and keeps inventing more excuses to keep itself going, until it has spun so totally out of comprehension from its original intention, it is basically an entirely different story now.

Meanwhile, Batman is still fighting killer croc.

Comics may be lesser than literature, but they sure as shit stand above mangaslop. Still not a single volume published that's better than aama by Frederik Peeters, and its still not even as good as some of the capeslop that's been published over the years.