Thread 24558070

share your theory about why this book isnt coming out

Gurm hates his fans, and with good reason.

>>24558070 (OP)
The seeds and roots and shoots have grown too wild, too brambled, too deep to ever be found and brought back together. The story is now as its widest crest before its supposed conclusion but the act of "bringing the shoots home" is beyond any aged authors capability. Perhaps if George was given another hundred years of health and energy he could do it. But the story he created is destined to live on, undone.

It was pretty obvious with books 4 and 5 that GRRM wasn't sure where the plot was going. Even as late as book 5 of 7 he was introducing new storylines and characters. Where did he expect to find the time to resolve those storylines in a satisfying way?

He’s more likely to kick the bucket than finish those books.

>>24558070 (OP)
He wrote for a living and now he’s rich he doesn’t care.

With the removal of the time skip and the addition of many new plotline he has no idea what do with some characters. And he realized he needs like 5 more books to give the series a proper ending

>>24558070 (OP)
>theory
my theory is that he wrote it already and it will be dropped when he dies

I told him through telepathy that I didnt care for his writing a long time ago

>>24558070 (OP)
Why would he work at all if he already has fuck you money?

>>24558070 (OP)
His ending is a better written version of the shows ending (Danny goes crazy and burns down kings landing) and after seeing every liberal white woman on the interment collectively seethe about how “regressive” and “sexist” it was his boomer hippie ass can’t bring himself to release the book for fear of being called a fascist.

>>24558089
>the story he created is destined to live on
lol no

>>24558289
Like it or not, its legacy is deeply written into the Anglo cultural fabric.

>>24558070 (OP)
One of two:

1. He literally just gave up because it's too overwhelming.

2. He lost the whole manuscript on his shitty DOS computer and lost everything and can't be bothered to start over again

>>24558311
*Writ deep

>>24558070 (OP)
He's having sex with xiren jay zhao

>>24558070 (OP)
His entire theme was a reconstruction of epic fantasy. All the normal beats (chosen one with Jesus allegory, evil destroys itself) are there, he just used a false protagonist, a slow build and certain PoVs to hide this.
His story then became super popular as a deconstruction or epic fantasy. Further more itnushed in a 15+ year period of deconstruction and subverting expectations. People think of asoiaf as a subversive and deconstruction work. Even the shows attending could work in its original context, but the hack showrunners made it subversive and deconstruction, which ruined it.
Martin is now in an impossible position. To achieve his original intent he has to fight against the public perception ofnthe core structure of his own work. He has to completely change what people think it is, or he will fail. Put floridly, he created a demon by accident and now in order to finish his work he'd have to fight thst demon, and he's old and fat and tired

>>24558070 (OP)
The end of the show is the end of the books, everyone hated it so he can't be bothered to finish.

>>24558754
Did you say it was a deconstruction?

Best case scenario is: it is finished (ASOIAF not just Winds) but he is too pussy to publish it, so it will be done posthumously, just for the sake of avoiding the criticism he is certain his work will receive.
But why the fuck would we get best case scenario for anything in this fucking timeline, someone else has already given the correct reasoning above.

>>24558089
This is exactly right. Specifically, age is a factor not enough people take into account. Creating and keeping track of a coherent story in a world as complex as ASOIAF is no small task. Keep in mind he wrote those first few books in his 40s. He’s almost 80 now

>>24558754
It pisses me off when people say it's a deconstruction because they always bring up salacious details like the incest and murder then say it's opposed to things like Arthurian Legends, which is them confidently admitting they have never read Morte d'Arthur.

King Arthur cheats on his wife with a woman and unbeknownst to either of them, she's his half sister, then she births Mordred, who later mortally wounds Arthur, making Arthur the father of his own demise through his iniquity. The Knights of the Round Table have a civil war where they butcher each other because Lancelot fucks Arthur's wife. Uther Pendragon kills a man to marry his wife, Merlin disguises him as her dead husband because Uther couldn't wait for the marriage to fuck her and that's how the once and future king was conceived.

>>24558070 (OP)
Gurm spilled cheese on his harddrive where the sole copy of Winds was saved, and lost about 800-1000 pages about 12 years ago. He never recovered from the loss.

>>24558070 (OP)
He's written too many unnecessary plot threads that is too much of a hassle to untangle given he's lost his passion for the project. And he knows even if he slogs through it, his fans will reward him with scrutiny and overbearing criticism. He has no will and no incentive.

>>24558860
The "protagonist" loses despite having the moral high ground and dies. It is meant to appear like a deconstruction but reveal itself over time to actually be a reconstruction.
The show runners lacked the subtlety for this and played it straight.

Gardener got pissy because he thought he could grow an apple tree while blindly planting seeds and got upset when it turned out to be citrus

He could've finished but he's adamant about finishing with 7 books so he's been trying to fit 4 books worth of material into two books which is impossible so he keeps rewriting and rewriting on and om never finishing

It can't be that hard to pad out the ending of the tv series into two books?
They'd still sell.

>>24559715
He should just write filler books. Feast and Dance could have been multiple books that specialized in Iron Born politics, Dorne's plots, a hilarious stand alone Cercei novella, Jaime's stand alone novel, Jon's stand alone novel. The dramas of the East. We could be starting on book 4 next instead of 6. The fat man has miscalculated.

>>24558311
>>24558332
lel

>>24558070 (OP)
It took Goethe 35 years of daily work to finish Faust part 2, and it exhausted his mind and will completely. Not saying asoiaf is high art, but the anons saying he doesn't have it in him are right (Martin is of course no Goethe). I imagine the last two volumes are exponentially more difficult to pull off than the first four, just by virtue of how storytelling (particularly epic storytelling) works.

>>24558311
people said this about game of thrones kek

>>24559699
Imagine the state of his actual garden.

>>24560179
>Not saying asoiaf is high art
How dare you insult the modern Tolstoy!

>>24558070 (OP)
I don't really care.

>>24558070 (OP)
This is why i never started the book series. It's pretty clear to me he needs a writers room of ASOIAF nerds to read all of his notes and current work, plot all the storylines out on a big white board, he directs the plots which a writing team then does the actual writing, which he then approves.

It's what'll happen after he dies anyway, so he might as well do it now. Also this is what he's been doing for a decade now for the TV show etc. Sitting in a writers room bullshitting, whilst others do the actual work.

>>24558070 (OP)
Todd got him to write the story for the upcoming Elder Scrolls game.

>>24558070 (OP)
Depression from old age, feeling like his work is not good enough due to autistic perfectionism, possibly undisclosed health issues

>>24558278
This is probably part of it; his most iconic girlboss is a disgusting villain and the readers love her

>>24558070 (OP)
Because of lit. You guys are too mean

Normies were too stupid to appreciate his ending and it demoralized him

>>24558070 (OP)
It’s very obvious that he’s writing Winter and Spring at the same time and planning a duel-release of some sort. I know you’ll all laugh, but I genuinely believe he’s doing it.
It’s taking him longer because he’s hoping to vastly improve on the show’s ending. He’s vain enough to make everybody wait for it too. He wants his magnum opus to be the literary crown of the 21st century, and an infamous duel-release will secure his legacy.

You’ll all see.

>>24562318
>flirting with death to edge the masses
Ke based retard

>>24562354
Yes. Like I said, he’s vain enough to do it

He rapes his sister, Cersei