Thread 24560901

Why do leftists always champion combating illiteracy as some great achievement of communism when in most countries with over 90% literacy rates adults don't read a single book in any given year? What is literacy good for if you don't read any books? Society would be better off with most people being illiterate, I learned to read when I was 3-years-old from TV commercials, if you had to be spoofed and taught to read your "thoughts" are probably worthless anyway

don't forget most communist governments just straight up lie about everything so why do we even believe their literacy stats like it's not more bullshit?

>>24560901 (OP)
You simply can't function in a modern society without a certain degree of literacy. But you're right about how the communists weaponised it.
In the nineteenth century, literacy spread to millions who lacked the comprehensive education to judge their reading material. And so communism became a mass movement, pushed onto a largely clueless proletariat.

>>24560924
exactly marxism is full of sneaky fallacies that even today english professors fall for sometimes

>>24560901 (OP)
>commies are too smart so being an illiterate retard is good actually
The state of /lit/

>>24560941
>commies are too smart
The average commie in 2025 is a seething double digit IQ turd world-renowned who thinks the CIA forced him to be a subhuman shitskin

They couldve given him a picture book of le happy peasants.

>>24560944
The average commie is a normie european with a white collar job and an above average IQ, what you're describing is the average tradcath groyper

>>24560901 (OP)
>If you are retarded, you are less likely to be a communist

Lol just lol, commies win yet again

>>24561263
No, he's a trust fund baby who has no concept of hard work or the value of money, but adopts a "forbidden" ideology to get attention.

>>24560901 (OP)
It's part of a larger phenomenon that exalts public education. The naïve believe that schools are vanguards against tyranny or ignorance or w/e that produce enlightened critical thinkers, when they're really job training centers that drill convention and conformity into students. Any "enlightenment" that happens happens in spite of that.

>>24560901 (OP)
This is the end game of right wing retardation, isn't it?
>books are for faggots
As a political ideology.
Can't wait for the rest.

>>24561331
Not really, no. Leftists are actually the ones who have become increasingly anti-intellectual. Basically the entire western canon has become an ideological no-go for them. The only literature they are ideologically allowed to read is a handful of 19th century communist trash as well as 21st century work written by minorities. You can't really become educated in literature by limiting yourself to that sort of reading.

>>24561353
I'm pretty sure this post is a right winger saying reading was a commie plot to make the kids read books and stop saluting the flag and shit tho. Which one is it?

>>24560901 (OP)
I’m 99 percent sure this is actually a retarded left winger trying to link literacy to communism.

>>24561263
commies don't have jobs. They are either multi millionaire twitch streamers or unemployed college graduates drowning in student loan debt. Gainful employment is the number 1 enemy of communism.

>>24560944
You are a shut-in incel full of hatred in your heart seething on 4chin 24/7

>What is literacy good for if you don't read any books?
my brother in christ, im not having sex but having a penis feels pretty good. you should try pissing or writing sometime

>>24561358
Yes, but you are ignoring the fact that this is also the only right winger you have ever seen making that argument and everyone can agree that he's a moron and that it's a very stupid take. Meanwhile, there are thousands of lefties saying that the western canon was written by racist dead white men and needs to be replaced by more work written by women of color.

>>24561372
That seems convenient, don't it?

>>24561375
Not really no. It's simply a fact. Are you actually trying to imply that I as a conservative have to agree with any random retard on twitter just because they too might fall politically towards the right? Until this thread, I have never in my life seen someone make a genuine argument that literacy is bad and you haven't either, so what exactly are we talking about here? It definitely isn't at all a mainstream take from the right. What I mentioned on the other hand regarding the validity of the western canon IS a mainstream take on the left.

>>24560901 (OP)
you are answering your question with your very same picture, literacy is a basic precondition to access more advanced propaganda, the rural town's butcher at best can only watch television

there is a basic underlying play on the ego-tingling feeling of being part of the intelligentia which most definitely is exploited to get midwits on board with all sorts of ideas that make them feel like they are above the crowd, it goes beyond mere communism which you can observe by the fact that the very same instrument has been used to turn old school communists into the current coalition of socially liberal dysgenic freaks that would make Marx himself boil

literacy is a tool, a powerful one, its champions are naive like someone who thinks you can only use knives to cut meat and vegetables and not to stab someone

>>24561383
Yeah I've met plenty of fucking dumb yokels who are hostile to book learnin and educated types and get swept up in happy patriotic bullshit. Start crying at flags and shit. Consistently throughout life.
Also plenty of right wingers who are literate in a narrow domain and censorious regarding books they see as subversive.
Right wingies say no Marx, no Foucault; left wingies say le canon le bad.
It's all retarded shit from pigs at the trough, lol were totally ruled by plutocratic oligarchs who will kill anyone that threatens their reach.
This stuff is all meaningless. It's like team sports.

"Here's my opinion on what books to read." Glad to hear it pleb. Back in the cage

>>24561360
No, I had real analysis at the uni with this guy. He's an actual right-winger and pretty damn smart

>>24560924
15% of Americans are illiterate. I volunteered at an adult literacy center and it was surreal teaching a grown ass man in the trades the alphabet. I think you overestimate how literate people are and underestimate just how easy it is to “live” “life” nowadays.

>>24561385
>"Here's my opinion on what books to read." Glad to hear it pleb. Back in the cage
Hey man take it easy, I’m reading this during lunch break :(

>>24560901 (OP)
I think there’s a better question: what’s the point of modern education? You have a 5 year old and you send them to school for…? Yes, obviously to learn, but what and why? For example, in school we learned about different types of rocks (sedimentary, igneous, etc.), but I can attest and say that this information has never been useful a single day of my life. So why was I forced to learn this during school, why was it a part of curriculum, and how does this help achieve whatever objective public education is out to accomplish?

Stop caring about communism. It’s not some special societal touchstone of human history. It’s just a modern version of the peasant revolt, meaning, some lower-rung elites manage to organize peasant masses into a revolt against the ruling elites and install themselves as the new ruling elites who then promptly seek to dispose of the same peasant masses which they had used to get into power — that’s literally all.

>>24561454
Orwell advanced this idea in 1984. "The high, the middle and the low". The middle enlist the help of the low to topple the high, then establish themselves as the new high and subjugate the low again. Also of course Animal Farm follows this patten.

Not sure it's quite as ubiquitous as he pretends but it's definitely a thing.

>>24560901 (OP)
>the most anti-communist person I've ever known was my retarded grandfather who never knew how to sign his name
Convincing argument

>>24561454
Lenin and Stalin did always see it as best to have themselves guiding the blind at the top but communism was never simply opportunist means to get power. They really believed in it

>>24560901 (OP)
Incredible self own for every right wing conservative who thinks communism is the devil.
>Stay retarded
>Won't turn into a commie
No better example that proves that nationalism and conservative ideology is truly for the retarded. And the pedos.
Also, Soviet commies hated the intelligentsia. So, a double retarded take.
No. Make it triple. Because it argues the right wing conservatives give you the correct information.
Can't expect better from a Pole.

>>24560901 (OP)
Gentlemen, imagine if you will the following premise for a novel:

* MC = young man travelling round Europe (university sabbatical?)
* He comes across an idyllic, self-contained little community somewhere vaguely Switzerland-ish.
* They seem to have it made, combining a high level of technology with old-world pastoral happiness.
* He decides to stay awhile to discover their secret.
* Before long the awful truth emerges: WOMAN AREN’T TAUGHT TO READ AND WRITE.
* He is appalled.
* He tries to show his hosts the error of their ways using FACTS and LOGIC.
* Sadly, facts and logic are not on his side.
* He finds himself being won over. Partly by argument; mostly by the self-evident superiority of this way of life.


The heart of the book will be MC trying to put the case for the modern liberal paradigm. This will involve philosophical discussions about the merits and drawbacks of female literacy. Think Winston v. O’Brien in 1984, or John the Savage v. Mustapha in Brave New World, or Beatty’s monologues in Fahrenheit 451. Except that here, MC is wrong and comes to realize this. (So more like Lost Horizon perhaps.)

We will also need ADVENTURE and ROMANCE.
— Perhaps MC will fall in love and realize that a sweet-natured, illiterate sixteen-year-old with good practical skills is the perfect bride?
— Perhaps M.C. will make it his life’s work to defend this latter-day Eden against the wicked machinations of International Finance . . . ?


Here’s the key point:—

If the book ever gained even the slightest traction it would instantly get a billion dollars of free publicity from the frothing hysteria of the feminist establishment.

/lit/ could crowdwrite such a book. And we should.

To sell books of course. As if reading is the only way to get an education or acquire knowledge.

>>24561597
How is it a self own for right wingers when some retard on twitter says something they completely disagree with? As much as you'd want it to be, it's simply not a common, let alone popular opinion among the right whatsoever. It's literally one retard saying something stupid on social media and in your desperation to get a win for your "team", you try to act like this is something the right as some kind of hivemind universally agrees with?

>>24561597
>>24561917
And once again, it is the left that has completely abandoned the western canon and literary education. It is the left that refuses to read Shakespeare, Dante, Tolstoy, the Greeks etc because those works were written by sexist, racist european men.

>>24560912
>lie about everything
unlike our government and our officials

>>24561995
Yes and when our government and our officials lie, they are being called out by both the media and independent people with a platform. In a communist country, those voices would simply be disappeared. Stop trying this both sides bullshit when it comes to communism, it is objectively the worse evil.

>>24560901 (OP)
In the good old days (Rome) only your Jewish servers and Greek slaves were able to read and write, everyone else just lounged

>>24560901 (OP)
> Why is literacy inherently good?
Nothing is inherently good, nor bad.

> Why do leftists always champion combating illiteracy as some great achievement of communism
Because complex social systems require exchange of information in a more durable way than spoken language. Writing provides that. Since leftists (at least, notionally) believed that they need to bring peasants and the poor into society, making those people literate was an essential first step.

>>24560912
That's overexaggerated by a Western press that makes outlandish accusations of "enemy" countries and refuses to ever do any follow up when they're shown to be wrong. Basically the last 20+ years of discourse on China has been fueled by this unscrupulous dishonesty which satisfies an ideological need for communist countries to be villainously evil.

>>24561368
Holy projection.

>>24560944
all the browns who hate being brown are righties, they're roleplaying as monarchists and nazis on twitter

>>24560944
>>24561263
No, as a third worlder, he's right. Marxists are third world shitskins.

>>24560901 (OP)
So you don't have to roleplay as a mentally retarded serf for another 60 years.

>>24560901 (OP)
>maternal grandfather

well he's right, as long as he's retarded he's safe from the commies

>>24561654
Not an original idea desu, I think closest “pop” book that explores similar themes is Houellebecq‘s Submission (typical academic concludes that sharia law might be nice).

>>24562815
Third worlders as in the ideology are very distinct from Marxists since Mao preached solidarity with American proletariat

>>24561917
Isn’t Trump gutting Harvard and threatening to tax them for antisemitism?

I love literacy

>>24562953
Harvard died decades ago, to be fair.

>>24561360
It's AI.

>>24560901 (OP)
If you're illiterate you can't read the contract to legally work in gulag for seven years.

>>24562332
>Nothing is inherently good, nor bad
this kills the slave mind with its need for idol worship

Maybe the anti communists should have tried writing books as well instead of blaming communists for it? I’d rather live in the worst communist shithole and be literate, than live in some illiterate capitalist utopia

>>24563052
If by that you mean it is ranked internationally as the best higher education on the planet and Asians flock here just to study at Harvard even if they are going back home afterwards, then I suppose you are correct.

>>24561433
Learning about different types of rocks isn't by itself important, but it reinforces an understanding that the world is more complex than we might initially assume, and along with all the other little things, provides awareness of different fields that they might want to pursue once they do finish their compulsory education

>>24560901 (OP)
You're right. Literacy isn't a good thing, I've been saying this for years now.

>>24560901 (OP)
>Why do leftists always champion combating illiteracy as some great achievement of communism when in most countries with over 90% literacy rates adults don't read a single book in any given year?
Heretics of the Protestant Lutheran ilk literally think God is only fully present in His sacred Scripture. This blathering idiocy, that God became our Savior and friend to start a book club, created the rot that is modern leftism. These absolute apostates dregs basically value literacy as potential salvation and as such view literacy as progress. Literacy is a great good, but literacy being a metric of moral weight versus indicative of just a more successful educational system (education is good too) is from Luther's demonic halfwit puppets.

>>24563659
eh, more like it became a "style over substance" legacy school where rich foreigners send their trust fund kids but go off

>>24561433
>what’s the point of modern education?
Daycare and indoctrination. I would say training them to get a job, but they don't accomplish that either.

>>24562013
If our government is honest, surely the Epstein files will be released and Trump can explain his close friendship with an open secret pedo lord and having private parties with him, or that some of his victims were recruited from Trump properties.

>>24566074
Cool it with the antisemetism, comrade. We have no use for mentions of so-called "pedo lords" or anything related to mossad in the revolution.
Stop being a reactionary.

>>24560935
this
how the fuck is your value-form accidental

>>24563681
So the scope of public education is to…prove that the world is complex and to help you pick a career? Do you really think that the (American) education system does this? Do you think public school teachers would agree with what you’re implicitly asserting?

>>24566124
the American system is based off the Prussian system, and as such retains its ultimate goal of filtering people into specialized groups designed around a general set of tasks. Although to be fair, this strategy has taken over the world and as such is how nations in Europe, Asia, and the Americas teach their youth. It's why /lit/ tells anons to start with the Greeks.
>but in muh evropa it's ackshully
no it isn't, hasn't been in a long time. Education in your country has been thoroughly industrialized and embraced practicality long before you were born. See how the new buildings are rectangles while the old ones are fancy? Education is kinda like that.
Autodidactism is always the answer.

>>24566124
The scope of learning about different kinds of rock may be that. Math, English, History, and Civics being a part of the curriculum contribute to the scope in ways obviously beyond that.

>>24560924
>literacy spread to millions who lacked the comprehensive education to judge their reading material
Yeah, it's not because they worked in factories and mines 12 to 16 hours a day, struggling to feed their kids who also had to work in factories to survive, while a small minority of people reaped all the benifits and more.
No, it's because they lacked reading comprehension. You fucking moron

>>24561433
You're asking the questions that you're asking because of public education, more specifically because public education gave you the basis of critical thinking, that being literacy along with a rudimentary understanding of various important intellectual fields, which you then evolved by interacting with other people through various mass media which owe their existence to and presume the existence of a large amount of people with a similar level of education and discursive ability. If there was no public education there'd just be trade schools and the "important" affairs would be just handled by a secluded cabal that would detain all knowledge, like the relationship between the medieval church and the peasantry (except less benevolent). Moreover, from a modern state's perspective, it's better to have your population be educated because increasing the general level of education - all else equal - increases the general complexity of the average job and the general level of society's technological evolution which increases the average productivity (that being defined as the ratio between production and hours worked) which increases the general wealth of society which increases the general happiness of the population which then decreases its general rebelliousness and tendency to chimp out.

>>24561917
>How is it a self own for right wingers when some retard on twitter says something they completely disagree with?
The right (or /pol/tards at very least) does this too, all the time. They screenshot some lunatic on twitter, post it on here (meaning 4chan) then circlejerk for 500 posts about how all "leftists" are exactly like the literal who with 10 likes and two comments, meaning they're all freaks, they all hate humanity, they're all spiteful, they all hate beauty, and so on and so forth. If I remember correctly there's even a term for this phenomenon, "nutpicking" or something like that.

>>24561433
You sound like a fucking nigger. Listen to yourself.

You don't even have to be that literate to get force fed propaganda these days. Yeah Americans used it to keep niggers down but just because you can't read or right niggers are taking over doesn't mean you can't be told niggers are taking over.

You don't even have to be that literate to get force fed propaganda these days. Yeah Americans used it to keep niggers down but just because you can't read or write there are too many niggers these days doesn't mean you can't be told there are too many niggers around these days.

>>24566389
Yeah, this is very common here. Basically using a massive outlier as the norm or typical type of group or person they don’t like. It’s like real terrible propaganda yet some fall for it

>>24566361
>If there was no public education there'd just be trade schools and the "important" affairs would be just handled by a secluded cabal that would detain all knowledge,
I’d argue that *is* the case even now with public education. At my previous job, I worked adjacent to our lobbying group. I got to see how our government *actually* works at the ground level. Previous to that job, I was completely ignorant, and I’d argue ~97-98% of Americans are too. My current role I work as a business consultant for a major company. My job is to talk to the c-suite executives of the biggest companies in the world, and man, I didn’t know how (enterprise) business actually worked (and the internal politics, jfc). I think we all could muster up and understanding what work someone up to middle management does. But past that? Only a select few ~1-2% of Americans work those roles to know and they tend to live in the same communities (you’re a high-earner, gotta live in that one bougie area in your city) and therefore socialize amongst themselves. Is this not a cabal?

>>24566079
Ironic, given that leftists are the only one seriously opposing Israel today, while the right is completely philosemitic

>>24560901 (OP)
>What is literacy good for if you don't read any books
Being able to identify idiots (you)

>>24561654
Men shouldn't be taught to read.

>>24566698
Literacy is good for detecting liars. The illiterate believe everything they're told. They dont notice lies by omission. They dont probe for bias. They cant fact check. They cant form counter arguments.

Too often I see people posting this exact request here on 4chan: "I believe this. Give me something that lets me continue believing." No. You fucking moron. You should be reading stuff that challenges your beliefs, not confirms it. You want to read a whole book doing nothing but nodding your head, thinking, "Good point. Good point."? You should read what tramples on your beliefs, so you can either change your opinion or get better at counter arguing.

>>24563655
We didn't have to, Communism was defeated by the bible. It turns out that offering people theft and crime is less appealing than the salvation of their souls.

>>24566745
Illiterate people cannot be Redditors, and therefore are automatically less retarded than any demographic that can produce Redditors.

>>24560901 (OP)
after two world wars and human slaughter on an industrial scale it turns out the aristocrats were in fact right and peasants should be plowing the fields and not reading books

I can't help but consider everyone retarded who unironically says shit like "The Man doesn't want you to study and go to college, man, it wants to keep you dumb", like, what the fuck do you think the education system is built and maintained for by the state if not propaganda and indoctrination. It is absolutely interested in keeping you in the education system for as long as it is possible and effective because the better integrated you are into its system the less likely you are to rebel for material or ideological reasons.

>>24560901 (OP)
Unless I'm entirely mistaken, Will Durant talks about literacy and its place in forming a normative society in Our Oriental Heritage

Homer was Illiterate. If not reading was good enough for him, maybe I should hit my head enough so that I forget how to read.

>>24560901 (OP)
Why Commies from every place have this inherent idea that they are the only smart people that can change the world in a brisk ? Yet they're the most incompetent, dunce, ugly, weak, perverted group of people of a society. What causes this ?

>>24561312
Why that tree is giving Epstein vive ?

>>24560901 (OP)
>Communist
>Totalitarian
Huh?

>>24560901 (OP)
because normies are retards and them being literate and exposed to information (propaganda) does turn them into suicidal libtards like the op tweet describes

>>24560944
lot of seethe at this TRVKE, I wonder why

>>24566348
Daily reminder.
And by the way, Russia had an agrarian economy prior to the revolution. Most Russians worked on farms, you ignorant moron.

>>24568061
Communism is necessarily totalitarian. How else do you stop private citizens buying up capital?
Of course, totalitarianism demands a pervasive system of control, i.e. a state. Which is one reason why communism can never be achieved.
Or as Mao put it, "There is no communism, only the movement towards communism."

>>24568049
Youth, idealism and inexperience.
There are very few commies older than 21, unless they're exceptionally stupid.

>>24568336
>If you think the reason communism spread everywhere can't be reduced to a mere reading comprehension issue... you are a communist
You are a mindbroken retard. Of course you can't make the jump from what I'm saying about factories to the conditions in tsarist Russia and think that's some sort of gotcha.

>>24561267
Your sophism is the very point of this thread (your abusive assimilation of level of intelligence, of wisdom and of literacy) so you’re a retard or a sophist or both and doubling down on this even after the question was asked on the very point of your sophism. Really proves your level of literacy means nothing about your intellectual level and your real ability to understand the meaning of words

>>24560901 (OP)
Guenon (Pbuh) did good banters against the forced general school

>>24561353
*laughs in chauvinstic NazBol*

>>24569796
Are you seriously denying the role of propaganda in the rise of the Bolsheviks? Because they would laugh in your face. To them, it was a vital tool of revolution.

>literacy is because of communists!
you trying too hard, but this thread is interesting. if literacy wasnt taught, it would be the best way of seperating the wheat from chaff. literacy rates are high, but not functional literacy. most people do not know or cant interpret what they are reading right, that means for the normies reading is a matter of reading signs, or titles of a youtube videos or tv news channels. that happens because they essentially do not read enough and do not have the curious will to do so. if literacy wasnt taught that would be about who truly has the curiosity which leads to less mundane persuits, to those who do not.

>>24571086
>Are you seriously denying the role of propaganda in the rise of the Bolsheviks?
No I'm not, learn to fucking read.

>>24566764
Communism was defeated by capitalism offering better living standards coupled with the USSR commuting sudoku in Afghanistan and Gorbachov being a tool

>>24563655
communism is jewish saturnine philosophy, or maybe better put as an ideological garment for the sabbatean frankism religious sect. what springs from 'leftism' or the frank-furtian thought is in 1:1 ideological facsimile for what the frankist profess, making it so not a coincidence. the anti-communist dose then is essentially dualistic thought, since what the other brand side sells is monism, be of the physical or of the moral (breaking of taboos.)

>>24560901 (OP)
Because if you want to run a complex society you need educated people en masse. They don't have to be sophisticated thinkers but they need to be educated. That was a hard learned reality for medieval kings which is what drove the renaissance to even happen. The reason you go from six figure armies in the classical world to four figure armies for most of medieval Europe is the breakdown of organization systems. For institutions to function and scale effectively you need scaling masses of educated people to keep them running. Literacy loss would effectively mean mass starvation in the long run since the skilled labor necessary to keep infrastructure and institutions functioning to a basic degree would disappear.

>>24571120
A lot of irrelevant words there. The USSR and China were both eventually run by goyim whereas the Christian west is run by Jews

>>24571120
to the communist, the worker and the entrepreneur are different, but that isnt true, both can be said to be workers, however, since it is two sides, then one is bad, and they have to be made one under the largest unitarian identity that would be the country state. same thing for everything else e.g. male bad, female good, therefore trannies. white bad, darkies good, therefore miscegenation.

>>24571096
My assertion was that the Russian proletariat, despite their increasing literacy, lacked the sophistication to recognise propaganda when they saw it. The very success of Bolshevik propaganda is proof of this.
If you ever get near a point yourself, be sure to let us hear it.

>>24571132
yes, orthodox Christianity became a thing again in the territory once known as 'ussr' and so did russia. your point isnt doing you any favor. the west is no longer christian, so obviously it is run by jews. again, your point is meh

>>24571140
My point is that propaganda only works when there's something in it that makes it resonate with people, therefore reducing the whole issue to reading skill levels is moronic. Do you think picrel (and their soviet equivalent), would not have fallen for it if they had better reading comprehension skills? You're an idiot that thinks he's smart because of the benefit of 200 years of historical hindsight and technological development.

>>24571175
>reducing the whole issue to reading skill levels is moronic
And who did that, exactly? My point was that the proletariat lacked a comprehensive education, and thus the circumspection to judge the merits of propaganda.
Clearly it's you who is lacking in reading comprehension. And you're a salty faggot too.

>>24571205
>And who did that, exactly?
You (or the other anon if that's not you), here >>24560924, when you said
>And so communism became a mass movement

>My point was that the proletariat lacked a comprehensive education, and thus the circumspection to judge the merits of propaganda.
And my point is that even had they had the greatest reading comprehension possible at that moment they still would have viewed communism favourably because it spoke of their condition in the right way. To offer an additional counterfactual that reading comprehension had nothing to do with it: plenty of intellectuals viewed communism favourably and they weren't even working class, if this was a mere literacy issue or culture issue this would have been impossible.
>And you're a salty faggot too.
I'm not "salty" because I dislike pompous retards who pontificate ignorantly on history with the benefit of hindsight.

>>24560901 (OP)
illiterates contribute more to society than literates

>>24571156
Orthodox Christianity didn’t defeat the USSR, retard. It just came back after it was no longer repressed. If Orthodox Christianity was stronger than communism then communism would haven’t have taken over Russia to begin with

>>24571743
i didnt say it defeated the ussr, i said it emerged again in the territory once known as ussr, and so did russia, because russia as a thing is not the ussr, and it is orthodox christian. tl;dr russia and christianity was born once again after the ideological possession by the alien entity lost strenght. i was describing a mutual correspondence that makes the whole of russia as a nation.

I am literate and communists in the CCP enslave my people in slave cotton plantations for the "crime" of being Muslim in China.

Literacy does not prevent me from opposing communism, I know the history of Russia from literacy. That is enough.

>>24571774
same can be said for europe. we can hope that the european wins over this ideological possession by the anti-european-word viruses they released there. they may do a lot of word trickery, tricksters they are, but it is an ephemeral garment that falls short in the truth and glory of the only true God.

>>24560912
Because that's one they actually don't lie about.
Here in the former east bloc the communists really did make an effort to send teachers out to the boonies to teach people, something mostly impossible in democracies because nobody would willingly go to the arse end of the earth.
(FYRO)Macedonia for instance was about 50% illiterate in the 1950s
The communists have a lot to answer for but this is one of the few actually good things they did

>>24560944
no sorry that's groypers and magatards, the average communist has a degree and a stable source of income

>>24572001
The average communist is literally a discord tranny. Even the commies I met in college were trannies or tranny-enabling/tranny-adjacent/tranny-fuckers and I went to universities well known for their leftist activism.

>>24571774
>russia as a thing is not the ussr, and it is orthodox christian
You don't know what you're talking about. Russia was borne out of the post-Soviet market rush tearing down the old world and replacing it with the cult of MONEY. Moving from the land of opportunity Wild West days of the 90s to the middle-class-dominated zeitgeist of the 00s which then transformed into the stale risk-averse statism of today, to which Orthodoxy is subservient. There isn't a deeper ideology beyond what the PR teams at the top deem necessary to maintain the flow of matters. Orthodoxy is just a way to appear trad in opposition to the anti-trad elites of the current geopolitical opponents and to satisfy the core supporter base of the regime, which is middle-to-late-aged women, often government employees, who engage in Christian (and folk) ritual in a shallow social way.

>>24571156
>>24571743
>orthodox Christianity became a thing again in the territory once known as 'ussr'
Absolutely not true. Nobody is religious in Russia, Soviet Scientific atheism never left, in fact it warped the religous perception to the point where everyone believes in 'rituals' to secure meagre amounts of money they are making. For example 'don't drop empty bag on the floor - you won't have money',
'don't give items through the doorway, bad sign',
'don't cross the street if black cat crossed it',
'do not look in broken mirror, somebody will die',
'do not return if you just left the house, you need to look in the mirror if you did, or bad things will happen'.
And of course astrology.

Have any Russians read the bible? no. They have no idea that mysticism merged with pagan rites and 'orthodoxy' are incompatible. Echoes of scientific communism
>t. Russian

Not a single person in my extended family is a Christian except for 80 year old grandma that I know barely anything about.
They cooked up some kind of syncretism with Christianity where it has to be paraded as a virtue signaling, but any real talk about the bible evokes feeling of 'omg I don't care about these desert fairy tales, I just do it performatively' or outright atheism