Thread 24561998

>Eat like a human being, drink like a human being, dress up, marry, have children, get politically active—suffer abuse, bear with a headstrong brother, father, son, neighbor, or companion. Show us these things so we can see that you truly have learned from the philosophers.
>Epictetus

Is this why childless unmarried philosophers like Kant, Nietzche and Schopenhauer hated the stoics so much?

>>24561998 (OP)
These "philosophers" were unfuckable incel freaks. They just monetized it by shilling their mental masturbation as something profound. If they were alive today, they'd be NEETs with a blackpill youtube channel.

>>24561998 (OP)
Hegel retroactively refuted

>>24562007
unfuckable ? Kant fcked a lot of beautiful women you faggot.... he was very sociable... he just never married one

>>24562039
>marry and have children
>BUT DUDE HE HAD LIKE LOTS OF SEX WITH WIMMINZ

>>24561998 (OP)
>>24562034
Is the stoicism for gamers thread not working out? Is this an unintentional pun about stoics?

>extreme difficulty with the external world and the best it can offer is cope

I'd say Hegel was right.

>>24562034
Hegel was right about the stoics and the skeptics. It's a negation of life, leading to an unhappy consciousness.

>>24561998 (OP)
That's Jacobi, not Kant in the picture

>>24561998 (OP)
How did Kant have a view on history while believing in the phenomenal noumenal distinction? Wouldn't history and the evolution of ideas be too complex to make a coherent structure? The evolution of the noumenal world is simply unattainable from first or second hand sources (be it within philosophy of history).

>>24561998 (OP)
nietzsche agreed with a lot of what the stoics had to say

>>24561998 (OP)
ad-hominem non-sequitur
>le childless unmarried
yeah youre welcome to go marry a modern woman or have kids in this age lmao. you're childless and unmarried, OP

>>24561998 (OP)
He managed to beat the irrationality of life, beat the man primordial will of mating, and the gene egoism that demands to survive via reproduction and cause another litany of suffering in another human vessel
That's highly respectable because nof everyone can be like him. Most people (normies) think that life is all about marrying and mating and gave birth to another human being in which they are trying to survive in this gay and retarded world while trying to find the purpose of their own existence at the same time

>>24561998 (OP)
based Kant

>>24562448
thats who he plagarised the idea of eternal recurrence from

>>24561998 (OP)
How can this lil goblin be so based

it never ceases to amaze me some random asshole thinking he's better than someone like Kant because he got a woman pregnant.

no one gives a shit about your retarded child who will grow up to be a worthless piece of shit like his dad and presumably become gay and end your genetic line anyway which was supposed to end aeons ago.

>>24563447
breeding is the only imperative of life.
It's favstian, anything else is mental masturbation

>>24561998 (OP)
Most of his influential works came out in his late 40s and fifties. He rarely left his hometown and was a private tutor. Stoics are just assholes nobody has to like them

>>24562201
negation of life?

Fuck the philosophers. Their books are mostly boring and they try to gatekeep by using gay words that you have to learn. You can give yourself a more than sufficient education in philosophy just by doing thought experiments and reading other people's replies to them as well.

>>24563447
Kant has never heard of my philosophy which is "go to Asia and fuck as many bitches as you can." Know what my dying words will be? "Ecstasy."

>>24564112
filtered

>>24561998 (OP)
Did kant ever had sex?

>>24564112
>Their books are mostly boring
Yeah, just like listening to two guys talk in a foreign language is boring. Your brain simply doesn't register what's going on. You're too fucking retarded for philosophy.

>>24564134
If by sex you mean sex then yes

>>24564134
he ascended

>>24564134
>>24564233

>>24564173
Oh I know what's going on.

Am I alive or am I not? How do I know I'm alive? Yeah good one aristotle, I need to take a shit and I wouldn't be doing this if I was dead but I'll get back to you on that one. Some profound thoughts, worry of thinking about and analysing but I don't need to read 200 pages of some philosopher sucking his own dick for 6 poignant thoughts.

>>24564247
Right.

>>24564233
>>24564241

>>24564247
filterrred

>>24564363
Cos I don't want to read 2000 words by some roman paedo neets who didn't want a job so much they tried to turn every normal thought into a book. Pretty much every great philosophy book can be understood by reading the wiki page.

>>24564372
filterrred

>>24564373
Fields needed ploughing, roads needed building and piss pots needed collecting but your hero's would rather suck dick for patronage and turn a regular thought into an allegory lmao. Faggots.

>>24564385
back to the fields mental midget

>>24564387
Why would I go to the fields when I can suck an old rich man's penis and write 10 books on whether the colour blue is really blue or if I just think it's blue because I've been told it's blue. Then if I waffle enough shit I can then fuck young boys???? It's the same as Marx being a fat lazy piece of shit who grifted off rich people because he convinced some people his thoughts are smarter than other people's thoughts. Just a faggoty grift flamboyantly dressed up as interlectualism.

Da vinci mogs every single philosopher throughout history on his own.

You're probably the guy on pol currently arguing that pederasty is valid because it encourages men to look after boys lmao

>>24561998 (OP)
Why would i read to kunt i can read to jesus and get eternal life

>>24564401
cope

>>24562034
Hegel had a wife and children and successful career bruh

>>24562034
Wrong

>>24564401
>You're probably the guy on pol currently arguing that pederasty is valid because it encourages men to look after boys lmao
Now you are just slinging shit because you are stupid. Take a lap around the block champ.

>>24564372
>>24564385
>>24564401
Awww, look at the wagecuck getting angry over a field he's too simple to even remotely comprehend.

>>24564429
Hey easy on the wagecuck. Kantanon's a wagecuck.

>>24564422
Pederasty is very important in philosophy because they were all fucking young boys. Which is brilliant for you because they dramatically turned thoughts into a whole book which gives faggots like you the faggotry of a faggot dressed in the words of an interlectual. To you it's some high octane high brow mental masutbation eposlde. To normal people it's gay boring shit. None of you talk about the modern philosophers much or elevate them to greatness because homosexuality doesn't influence modern philosophy so much and you need the faggotry dramatics of the old guard.

>>24564478
retarded cope

>>24564429
In all seriousness I would love to go back to a regular job. Do simple shit, get paid, have my 4 hours of fun and do normal shit at the weekends but my skillset it so specialist I'll never be able to go back to the real world again.

>>24564488
It's all faggotry. Who was the faggot who talked himself out of a death sentance and then told them to kill him just because he wanted to do a dramatic performance lol. If he wasn't a faggot he'd have just told them to kill him. You like the classics because they appeal to the latent homosexual side of your brain you just won't empirically deduce this one thine self lmao.

>>24564524
pure seething and cope

>>24563635
>He rarely left his hometown and was a private tutor.
Tutor of what?

>>24564800
Mathematics and such

>>24564981
>philosophers obsessed with math
boring.

>>24564989
If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.

>>24565001
yeah math is like the most opposite of doubt subject ever, the most full of itself subject ever, considers itself "the universal language", and most egregious of all, "more real" than the real, despite being about as made up, and abstract as language

>>24565011
That is sort of true, but it does provide a solid foundation to lay all your assumptions on

>>24565027
>but it does provide a solid foundation to lay all your assumptions on
I just wish people would be more honest and simply admit that its more convenient and useful than actually "real".

>>24565030
Think of it like a lie not to deceive but survive, everything is just approximately real herr.

>>24565067
to, here etc

>>24565067
Descartes was real as fuck for that...why do we act like he was dumb again

>>24565081
Only retards do

>>24565081
I never did, i really don't know much about the board culture desu

>>24561998 (OP)
>>Eat like a human being, drink like a human being, dress up, marry, have children, get politically active—suffer abuse, bear with a headstrong brother, father, son, neighbor, or companion. Show us these things so we can see that you truly have learned from the philosophers.

>>24561998 (OP)
he was just autistic

>>24562039
name 5

Imagine if his name was Immanuel Kan instead of Kant. What he could have achieved in his life.

>>24563933
Here's from Google AI:

"Hegel's concept of "negation of negation" is a dynamic process of development where something is negated, and then that negation itself is negated, leading to a new, more complex form. It's not a simple return to the original, but rather a sublation, where the original is preserved in a higher form. Hegel critiques Stoicism for its abstract negation of the world, arguing it fails to engage with the world's concrete reality and achieve true freedom."

>>24561998 (OP)
Kant hated the Dutch. So he is ok in my book

>>24565067
Wtf does that quote mean

>>24562039
No. He was manlet.
>>24562203
On 4chan it's Kant

>>24562448
Nietzsche was a dickless faggot