why are litfags like this...

>>24563633 (OP)
read Ben Klassen.

Sports are for faggots. What else shall be said? The idea of running around chasing a ball instead of pursuing higher literature is fucking retarded.

You're retarded if you don't cultivate both body and mind. They harmonise.

>>24563639
you sound like you use the term "sportsball" unironically

>>24563633 (OP)
Plato means "broad" and he was do fit his shoulders were very wide. Every time someone argued against him, he'd just stand up and flex his muscles and win... he was an Olympian.

People who denigrate sports are usually ugly and unathletic. They're losers with chips on their shoulders because they embarrassed themselves in gym class.

the cure for this is The Trivium + Quadrivium -> Homo Universalis

>>24563633 (OP)
Because they're are based.

>>24563730
>Plato means "broad" and he was do fit his shoulders were very wide.
He was a solider so it served the purpose. Gymcels do it for foids, kek.

>>24563760
People who play sports are low iq retards.

Here's Ernst Junger's brutal take down of the monkey show that is sports

>>24563702
Nta, but I do. Sportsball as a term isn’t an anti-sport slur, but anti-spectacle, that is the sickening subhuman spectacle that is the modern sports entertainment industry. I still play tennis at the park or throw some hoops from time to time.

>>24563781
This is not by Ernst Jünger, it was written by his younger brother Friedrich Georg Jünger.

>>24563783
ok but saying it still makes you sound faggy and redditXMS24

>>24563783

ok but saying it still makes you sound faggy and reddit

>>24563775
>He was a solider so it served the purpose
Self-improvement is its own purpose.

>>24563799
You share that wholesome chugnus fact about Plato as if that means anything in the support of monkey show that is sports and gym culture. Read this >>24563781 and save your soul

>>24563807
>nooo you should let your body rot away while becoming illuminated
Mens sans in corpore sano, famalan.
Physical activities should be encouraged in equal measure to any cultural pursuit.

>>24563811
>>nooo you should let your body rot away while becoming illuminated
No one is saying that you retard. Hippocrates solved physical health thousands of years ago when he said: "Walking is the best medicine".

>>24563781
read Musil for the counter-argument, you fucking loser
Junger was a 3rd-rate thinker

>>24563633 (OP)
Sports are for children. I grew up thinking i hated exercising because I thought chasing after a ball and getting emotional over it was for retards.

>>24563775
>t. ugly, genetically inferior, sucked at everything athletic, and was never anyone's choice to have as a teammate
Lol

>>24563842
Even Seneca talked shit retards in gymnasiums.
>Junger was a 3rd-rate thinker
Okay consoomer

>>24563844
>ugly
I'm mid
>genetically inferior
I am tall in my country
>sucked at everything athletic
I was actually good in one sport which made few faggots so jealous that they sabotaged my position. Here's your "team spirit" and your noble sportsmen.
>was never anyone's choice to have as a teammate
Oh you naive bastard. You are a child if you are not aware of internal team politics and how petty these meat headed retards are.

anything to justify reading

>>24563841
>no argument
>calls other retarded
walking from the monitor to the fridge and back isn't what Hippocrates had in mind. also, there's less physical labor today than then. and a different diet among other things. there is litterally nothing wrong with playing any sport or going to the gym for a balanced life. you can both read and exercise for your own improvement. choosing one side over the other is completely retarded.

>>24563633 (OP)
/lit/fags desperately trying to get people to read more but are way too autistic and just make it seem gay as fuck. Honestly the best way is probably to latch onto /fit/ and spread the ideal /fitlit/

>>24563633 (OP)
Dont care; still gonna play my tennis cause its awesome, it makes me happy and its an intelligent game

>>24563781
Shit take

>>24563860
This is true; teammates in team sports wont hesitate to fuck you over for even the smallest of gains for themselves. Thats why i prefer solo sports

>>24563796
Obsessing over how you "sound" is more "faggy and reddit" than anything you could say.

>>24563868
I have never met an intelligent sportsman. Here's my "argument".
>nothing wrong with playing any sport or going to the gym for a balanced life
everything is wrong with this inhuman statistical bullshit. talking a walk in nature and hiking are enough.

>>24563775
He was an Olympian. He literally competed and won at the Olympics.

>>24563928
>Imagine thinking that modern corporate sponsored Olympics are same as ancient Greek Olympics which was a religious and cultural event.
Lol, lmao even

>>24563633 (OP)
Chess is the most /lit/ sport. Whoever doesn't into chess is literally a brainlet

>>24563978
I’m shit at chess and maxxxed out a literacy test

If lit fags we're athletic and got pussy they wouldn't be hiding in books. I pretty much stopped reading books when I got girls and took drugs but now the drugs are getting boring and the girls aren't as easy to get as they once were I'm reading more.

>>24563633 (OP)
I possess a seething hatred for memes like this. Maybe because it includes the meme makers face or its his wording. Maybe because the meme maker is clearly an insecure faggot.

>>24563842
>read Musil for the counter-argument
Wait… I didn’t get very far in the book, admittedly, but I thought a key theme was his despair over the fact that a boxer may be ‘considered a genius in this age.’ Elaborate?

>>24563639
This, except lifting and other sports that take a medium amount of skill. I don't get the hubub about """"cultural"""" sports.

>>24563781
What an excellent and wonderful argument. I live for speechcraft such as this.

>>24564181
*I don't get the hubub about """"cultural"""" sports. sadly**

>>24563783
poofter

>>24563843
turns our, its was because you are a fat retard that got bullied in school

I don't get why playing sports gets such negative reactions from /lit/ people. They entertaining, engaging, and literally make you happy, your body feels good when exerting itself

>>24563781
I think most anons that use this as a justification miss the point entirely - Junger is not arguing against exercising for fun but against sports as an institution and the adherence to rigid rules so basically anything involving professional sports. He would, I have no doubt, be disappointed in each and everyone of them if they would be next to him in the trenches.
the thing is that OP disregards the merits of casual sport and excercising. there is no inherit disadvantage in exercising or playing on one's terms and conditions for one's own benefit.

if your day to day life involves movement and physical activity then doing a sport may be rendered moot, but as most here are fucking neets with little to no activities outside of doom scrolling and maybe reading then any form of exercising will be a net benefit. anything other than that is pure cope to justify their lazyness.

I don't think any sane person will tell you to just read or just play sports, you can do both in almost equal measure.

What I'm more surprised by is the fact that even though Musil argument was used as a counterexample, none of the detractors of sports took into consideration that he died while exercising. Same as Jack London. Goes to show you the absolute state this board has become.

>>24563978
Cheerleading is the most /lit/ sport. Out of all types of athletes, cheerleaders are more likely to read.

>>24563883
Why did you quote "faggy and reddit"? It's faggy and reddit.
Agree with your point though.

>>24564325
because the average spectator/fan of sports games such as soccer, football, basketball, are extremely anti-intellectual people.

popular sports are overly marketed and entertainment based, so people generalise and conflate even though there are a massive amount of sports. many sports are also bullshit and there are varying degrees of simulation/luckbased/skill needed.

in my opinion martial arts and things like fencing where human perseverance and skill-honing can out-perform genetic athletic advantages are the best ones still around, but inherently modern sports culture is messed up due to the amount of money involved and PED's, major sports teams go as far as spying on opponents and sabotaging or drugging them, having players convert to various religions in order to make them better, delude and hypnotise them, find top-tier chemists to circumvent and dabble with PEDs.

>>24564404
>in my opinion martial arts
>two subhuman monkeys trashing each other in a cage for the advertisers
Pinnacle of humanity really

>>24564298
At least I'm not retarded like you.

>>24564414
What if I controlled your opinion and gave you based in exchange?

>>24564426
(You)

fighting done by cowards, thinking done by fools

>>24564414
you're very ignorant about martial arts, i know MMA fighters have a meathead reputation but that actually was also intentionally crafted by UFC when it started to take off back in the day.
fighters are actually the most complete and well-rounded athletes of all and the infinite amount of styles (within specific sports, not just different sports) and personality makes every single fight unique and there are always massive amounts of respect for every bad apple that acts like a cunt.
there are more notable lifestories and dense cultural aspects in combat sports than any other sport, there are also tragedies but thats to be expected as you need to be an extreme person to compete in it.
even without competing this also really develops people mentally and physically.
incase you're not aware wrestling and grappling is also martial arts.

Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related and similar cases or data that may contradict that position.

>>24564449
getting punched your head repeatedly on your head has made you retarded. go fight like a monkey for your millionaire advertiser you absolute chimp.

>>24564472
ok buddy, if you feel like learning something new and becoming a better, smarter and stronger person look into boxing or muay thai.

>>24564380
Same reason I quoted "sound", emphasis.

>>24563639
those who confuse being boring and sad with intellectualism are coping losers and their entire pursuit of higher literature is just a crutch for their ego
go outside and have fun, it will make you better at whatever you're doing
if you're not having fun, god doesn't like you and will punish you, so beware!

>>24563639
I can read classic literature and root for my favorite football team. Stop being a pretentious douchenozzle and learn to cultivate a plethora of hobbies to make yourself more interesting.

>>24563633 (OP)
Being weak and uncoordinated is not a crime and not his fault, but the childish "sour grapes" attitude should rate him a serious beating.

>>24563639

Literal faggot take. Sports is fun. I am utterly shit at it but it's still fun. Watching sports though is certainly boring . But playing sports is closest you can get to your primal hunter gatherer nature.

That image didn't elucidate how to be good at sports.

>>24565170
Playing sports growing up is a good way to learn basic manhood skills like being part of a team, being judged by others for being a gay worthless retard nobody wants, being admired by others for being good, being somewhat admired but not as admired as other people who are way better without even trying, meeting your limits, overcoming your limits, failing to overcome your limits and realizing you don't give a shit about this gay thing in which you are limited and are better at other things. All of this is valuable. However, watching sports is the fattest most American thing a person can do (and yes I include "English" "people" under American). Anyone who watches sports should be purged from the gene pool. It's a sign of complete irredeemable retardation.

>>24565193
>However, watching sports is the fattest most American thing a person can do
The American peoples of the 5th century BC Peloponnese.

>>24563730
Broad as in knowing a lot retard.

>>24565193
>watching sports is the fattest most American thing a person can do

Hockey is still fun watch (for free). Every other sport is essentially a giant commercial with occasional breaks to watch a game. People pay money to be inundated with advertisements which is where I draw the line.

>>24563633 (OP)
Lmao

This is the same take as Andrew Tate justifying why he doesn't read.

>>24563651
Truest post got ignored
Curious, that

>>24565193
I didn't like sports and remember feeling nothing except contempt around now much pressure there was for me to enjoy playing a game with a ball and how important everyone regarded it as being. As a child I suspected it had something to do with stupidity. And when I grew and realized that the aristocrats play different kinds of sports from the commoners, this was confirmed for me. I also didn't like some 40 year old dad who wasn't my dad, yelling at me and telling me what to do. I didn't like any of it

The most virulent haters of sports are coincidently trannies/gays/fags/women and lit elitists. Curious.

>>24563781
Ernst was a romantic and idealizer of the Greeks though. Spengler points this out and explains that our true task is not being romantics or idealists but men of our time, practical, realistic. Sports have their place, just like anything else.

Hating sports is okay as long as you realize it's because of who you are, and not because they're bad.

>>24567752
>Spengler
Wrote a romantic fiction on history. Next

>>24563979
>literacy test
This sum anglo thing?

>>24564337
As fellow /lit/ter I can tell you that reading books doesn't make you /lit/. I would even say that best posters here even never read or barley read a book 2bh

>>24564449
MMA is peak fagism. An extreme form of mental gymnastics that males are allowed to hug each other. As if boxing wasn't bad for that shit. MMA peaks in it and one of their worst offenders are bjj fags for their presenting attitude. The only martial art today that is not some form of staged homosex is fencing

>>24567781
>fencing
The only sport faggier than fencing is gymnastics.

>>24567781
you post like a retarded 12 year old who just watched south park, what kind of word even is "fagism"?
besides ignoring all the rest of my post about character-building and athleticism, i agree wrestling/grappling is boring to watch, which isn't what this thread is about. however its still one of the oldest traditions on earth and one of the most effective ways to fight. saying shit like "dude grappling is GAY! lmao!" just makes you look retarded as you might get dumped on your head and get your legs broken in 2025.
i don't know why i even bother with most posters anymore since you faggots brought the site's average iq down to 85, you don't even read entire posts anymore. i hope you're a kid so you might learn something, otherwise get a grip, insecure weakling.

>>24567809
go read a book, monkey

>>24567816
all the best authors and philosophers did martial arts or advocated for it.

>>24567809
Sloppy single leg into no side control. That dude maybe saw MMA on tv.

>>24567822
hes a pro fighter https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/75702-kaan-kazgan-face-puncher
he didn't want to hurt him too much, just teach him a lesson, hence the cutting elbows i guess.

>>24567819
i have no martial arts gyms around me.

>>24567837
do you live in india? even the most rural shitholes will have a boxing gym somewhere nearby.

>>24567828
Ah, he was holding back. That makes perfect sense. Even the elbows weren't all that bad.

>>24567841
>>do you live in india?
Close. I live in Pakistan. I wish there was a martial arts gym near my house in my teenage when I was getting bullied. But oh well i started isolating myself and found comfort and joy in books.

>>24567809
Gayreeks literally fucked boipucci and went naked to the gym which literally means nude. Your oldest tradition is cum soaked in homosex like your webm

>>24567807
kek you probably favor sport where you shower with the guys amirite

>>24567870
Why are you so afraid of naked men?

>>24567873
Not afraid. I don't seek naked men though. I'm str8

>>24567851

No pahalwan ground run by a Choudhary in your village to turn weaklings like you into men?

>>24567907
Choudharys want people to remain weaklings but yes Pahalwani culture is still alive in village. Unfortunately, I don't live in a village.
>weaklings like you into men
I wasn't weak. Just outnumbered.

>>24567870
Are you afraid of other men? Would it stir something within you, gay boy?

>>24563860
>I was actually good in one sport which made few faggots so jealous that they sabotaged my position
Chip on his shoulder confirmed, lol. You weren't good btw.

>>24567919

Welp. Infinite jest and gravity rainbow it is then (or whatever the fuck you read)

Sports are fun to play but I just couldn't get into watching it. I don't care what team wins and never got why people go so crazy about becoming a fanboy for their team so much to even fight over it

>>24567942
>Let me tell you about your biography
Maybe I wasn't good. But I had the balls and brains to pursue something totally different to the status quo. I went for philosophy and artistic beauty at the risk of getting labelled as a "gay autist" by my village's men. I read about things that are totally contrary to my views. I dared to understand and make sense of life. Yet they still have that same jockey retard mentality. They have never read a book in their life.

>>24563633 (OP)
Buddy was never chosen on the pick up games

>>24564415
So you were a fat retard who got bullied?

i like to read in the gym

>>24564812
>go outside and have fun
you're 12

>>24565170
>playing sports is closest you can get to your primal hunter gatherer nature.
No... that'd be hunting and gathering

sportsfags give off mad homo energy

>>24568008
>resentful loser demonstrates that people hate him because he's a pretentious faggot
Lol, only read the first 2.5 sentences btw.

>>24568815
Go back to your board you retarded meat head

>>24563633 (OP)
social media is the biggest childish endeavor
A complete man does reading/sports, doing either or the other leaves you with a weak mind or a weak body

Sports are cool. Caring about which millionaire kicked the ball into a gate, or wearing their name on your back is mad gay.

>>24569112
>a weak mind or a weak body
Kek, it's crazy that these /fit/ selfhelp retards read to become "smart" and view reading same as sports. What a miserable way to spend a life.

>>24563633 (OP)
The mind is an organ, no different from the heart and the lungs and the muscles and eyes.
The body is a cohesive whole. Just as neglecting dental health causes terrible ailments elswhere in the body, neglecting the body causes the mind to deteriorate.

We are humans, capable of reason, but we are also animals, bound in our physical body. To neglect that body is foolishness and stupidity.
It is only when we are at our physical peak that our mind too is capable of reaching its physical peak.
If you do not exercise but instead languish in dark corners all your life, your mind will become sluggish and unfocussed.

Furthermore, as social animals, we are hardwired to compete and pursue social status. Sports provides an outlet for this irrepressible desire. By engaging in sports and fitness, our body and even the animalistic parts of our mind become convinced that we are doing our proper duties as animals, and as such are rewarded with the peace of mind known as happiness and fullfillment.

But if we do not engage in sports but instead hide away from the world and other human beings, we will become miserable, depressed. And this is a toxin to any hope of pursuing intellectual work for intellectual work requires vigour, and one who is depressed will have no vigour.

To think you are not bound by your animal nature is to have delusions of grandeur. You are an animal, and you must appease its demands, or it will torment you.

>>24569135
Not to become smart, but reading has a lot of proven positive effects on the brain. Most important of all, it trains your brain to be capable of focusing on a task that doesn't have instant gratification for a prolonged period of time. Considering how many people these days have had their brains completely rewired by social media and now have lost their ability to focus for any period of time, reading seems more important than ever to me.

>>24565602
Πλάτων does not have the connotation of "knowing a lot" in ancient Greek, retard.

>>24569149
>positive effects on the brain.
>not for the aesthetic pleasure
You won't get it. Stick with sports.

>>24569143
Here another brain rotten retard.

Sportfags are so miserable, kek.

>>24569160
The whole "strengthen the mind and body" shit is cringe but there's no good reason why a person can't be interested in both sports and literature/philosophy. Kerouac and Jon Rawls were college football players, Nabokov, Roald Dahl, and Bolano were all boxers, Camus loved soccer, obviously Plato was a wrestler, etc.

>>24569173
The condition of the mind is directly related to the condition of the body. This is basic biology.

>>24569173
There's a difference between a high schooler eventually playing sports and some retard picking up sports or reading because his self-help guru told him so.

>>24569181
>heckin my religion of science is the truth mm'kay
Not at all retard. Disabled people can read and write. There's whole things about blind poets and how great they're.

>>24569188
>There's a difference between a high schooler eventually playing sports and some retard picking up sports or reading because his self-help guru told him so.
Agreed, but it's a mistake to do the opposite as well. You shouldn't decry sports just because you have an ego ideal of an intellectual living a sedentary life. You won't become less of an intellectual if you decide to toss a ball around, and you might end up having fun and learning something about life in the process.

>>24563781
He was a junkee who got his son killed. I'm not going to listen to him.

>>24563785
By his jünger brother you say?

>>24563633 (OP)
I look like this and say this

>>24563781
Sounds like Marxist propaganda but ok

>>24563639
*Watching sports is for faggots.
Doing sports or exercise is not.

>>24563860
>I am tall in my country
Kek. Now call me a bloody benchod bitch and fuck off.

>>24563633 (OP)
That's ironic but maybe you're low IQ get it but the legions of garbage /fit/ crossboarders (which makes them /pol/ crossboarders as well by nature) are exactly like that. Getting fit for the first time feels great. It gives a lot of guys a sense of confidence that they've never had before, and they get caught up in the subsequent smell of their own farts. They think: "wow! I'm actually pretty awesome, aren't I?" and from the discovery that they are indeed awesome at lifting heavy weights, they make the unfounded leap that they must also be awesome at everything else. Unfortunately for them (and for us) the act of lifting heavy objects doesn't actually seem to correlate positively with the ability to think independently and with cogence—or even, at times, coherence.

tl;dr retards start lifting weights, get confidence, then use said confidence in areas they really have no business being confident in

>>24569575
Indians have much more in common with blockheads like you. They worship cricket and football.

/pol/ gets too much blame for the amount of shit that /sp/ and /fit/ brought to 4chan. the overlap between /fit/ and /r9k/ is almost 1:1

most sports is for retards
doing pullups, jogging, situps, pushups is literally all you need

>>24563639
they already figured out thousands of years ago that lit + fit was the way to be, yet here you are still being a retard

I'm with Gumbrecht on this one:
>Sport fascinates us because it pulls us out of the flow of time – because it creates moments in which we are fully present. Not because it is moral, not because it educates or serves a purpose, but because it is beautiful. Because, as we watch, we are swept away – by bodies in motion, by tension, by the thrill of the unpredictable. Sport does not promise salvation, but it gives us intensity. It does not speak to reason, but to our senses, our bodies, our now. And that, rare as it may be, is more than enough.

>>24570922
>Sport fascinates us because it pulls us out of the flow of time – because it creates moments in which we are fully present...
this nigger has never read a book for pleasure. this is literally aesthetic pleasure.

>>24563639
Unironically seething

There is literally only one faggot here in this thread who hates sport most likely because he is either
a. Fat.
b. a cripple.
or c. Fat and a cripple.

>>24563639
go do boxing or wrestling if you don't like sports ball.
>>24563651
this.
a society that differentiate it's warrior and thinkers will have it's war fought by fools and it's thinking done by cowards. (some greek guy, long time ago)

Imagine thinking sports make you a warrior. Was this board always this low iq?

>>24572403
reading doesn't make you an intellectual, either.

You could be both athletic and smart if you spent less time jacking off

>>24563633 (OP)
Pythagoras made all his followers exercise and enjoyed viewing sports. That tradition continued through the scholastics and into the Industrial Revolution when poor fags decided to worship the industrious sportsman and not admire the spectator most. Total rejection of sports is actually the lowest tier of buyer and seller and loser most rejected by all others

>>24572506
spectator sports/games and betting and the like already existed since antiquity, but there is a sport for basically anyone and the only reason to abhor it is due to some kind of resentment or insecurity (being fat or bullied during school PE). conflating the practice of a sport and watching sportsball is just low iq, possibly subconsciously due to aforementioned issues.

your physical health is tied to your mental health, so not working out or doing any physical activity at all is the retard thing to do

>>24572506
>>Pythagoras made all his followers exercise and enjoyed viewing sports.
That was a highly religious vegetarian cult who worshiped apollo. you do it for the foids, tinder hookups and instagram likes. not the same.

/fit/ crossboarders are cancer

>>24570865
most sports give you all the benefits of calisthenics and cardio while playing a game involving skill and speed

>>24563633 (OP)
hating sports is an american only thing. i don't think i need to explain why.

>>24572549
america has the best sports culture.

>>24572549
imagine following some hedonistic millionaire kicking a ball for the benefit of evil corporations like a fucking monkey and then thinking that you are special for liking sports

>>24572543
unless you're a 18-19th century autistic savant writing philosophy or miserable existentialism you can't be a good writer while never going outside, practicing a sport or exercise of some kind makes you better at life in general and being stimulated by life whether good or bad will make you a better writer, i think you underestimate how many people practice exercise and don't see it as something they had to pick or think about, its just a given for many or most people. nobody says you have to dedicate a significant part of your life to it, doing the bare minimum gets you massive results in comparison to being sedentary. you think a writer or reader is better off sitting around or going for a 1h daily hike in nature?

>>24569173

>>24565193
Cope. Why so envious?

>>24563781
>Sports, then can be defined as a reaction to the conditions under which man lives in large cities
stopped reading there

>>24572561
>>unless you're a 18-19th century autistic savant writing philosophy or miserable existentialism you can't be a good writer while never going outside,
Borges was a librarian and then literally went blind. He is one of the greatest writers.

Just walking for one hour everyday in nature is more than enough. Maybe add some yoga. Everything else is perverse monkey bullshit.

>>24572556
such as? the american football is a crude butchering of the english football (soccer) which has become a global sport. but you guys have a strong basketball culture i'll give you that, in spite of the fact most players are black.

>>24572558
you sound unhinged. i have no idea what you're talking about.

>>24572574
people vary and might want or need something more or different, your opinion on what is enough is arbitrary. a cripple writer might want to do something he can do without legs, an extravert with lots of friends might want to do some kind of team game.

>>24572590
i know many good writers and poets in the literary circles and let me tell you that NONE of them do this monkey bullshit. they just talk regular walks at most. but you don't see them shilling literary lifestyles on /fit/. see to this post >>24569598

>>24572596
most good writers did some exercise and advocated for it though, you have some imaginary crossboard boogeyman in your head. /fit/ is an extremely dead board. i've never seen a single person think they could read classical literature because they did some curls the day before.
why is going from "regular walks" to "a game with walks with some runs and throws and jumps" too much for you and utterly ridiculous? i find it hard to believe you're not just obese.

>>24572604
this """rational""" nonsense of doing the """right thing""". this obsession with "a game with walks with some runs and throws and jumps" a little more and a little more. walking? why don't you jog? jogging? why don't you sprint? shut the fuck up. it's a perverse sickness of our times.

sportsfaggots/gymrats are utter and total pain in the anus for everybody. again see >>24569598

>>24572620
your only argument is that you don't like it, desu if you don't feel the need to stand up and move sometimes you're unhealthy, probably from your sedentariness. taking walks, unless you properly hike through hills/mountain paths isn't enough.
and your stupid strawman is embarassing.

>>24572620
>this rational nonsense of eating and drinking, i know many good writers and poets in the literary circles and NONE of them eat and drink, thats clown shit, who the fuck obsesses over not starving? being alive is not /litty/ and they should go back to their /ck/ board!

>>24572631
you're literally acting like jehovah witness. viewing sports as redemption, kek. modern man and his death anxiety is hilarious. most artists lived extremely irrational lives if anything.

>>24572633
point is that there are billion ways to spend life. you cult is not the only true. yes there are jain monks who starve themselves to death.

>>24572691
you're so fat and physically impotent you turned a conversation about sports being good for a person to a debate about free will and wanting to die having validity, get some self-awareness nigger.

>>24572698
why you're so afraid of death? i would rather accelerate my death than preserve it like a scared bitch. in the meantime im writing poetry. i walk in circles and talk with trees and that's cool. i'll parish by my own law not someone's else bullshit. no such things as "doing the right", never was.

>>24572707
i do muay thai, i can die anytime i do a competition.

>>24572707
being a life-denier doesn't mean being a death-affirmer, arguably its the other way around.

>>24572712
that's cool. im just sick of sports and gym retards imposing their bullshit down other people's throat like they're teaching the gospel and how they're special snowflakes for picking up some iron. see this post >>24569598

>>24572713
you're presupposing tons of bullshit here. i don't play by your religion.

>>24572717
nobody is imposing anything down your throat, you just took it as a personal attack that others are proponents of something, linking to your own delusional strawman over and over again is really stupid too. you seem really pathetic and weak not just physically but intellectually aswell. if you want to die then die, nobody cares. imagine bringing all this shit up just because somebody said moving around is fun and good. being sedentary has raped your brain.

Nothing special about not working out
Nothing special about working out either
Human beings can have different ways to spend their time and different aptitudes and that is in fact defined by your genetics and cultural heritage
The only retarded thing is following sports religiously or being overly obsessed with the physical form because try getting a job or money with that, at least litcels have an actual practical skill that can give them a bit of an upper edge
It's very feminine and womanly to show off your body for everyone too
It's very gay and close minded to think people who do sports and enjoy them are gymfags when most people only do them for the social aspect of it all and it's very good to have a group to go back to. I met my gf through surfing
You can do both but it's also objective that super athletes like the ones on tv are morons and super intellectuals like the ones who write books aren't very fit or athletic
>inb4 greeks
The greeks didn't need to pay fore a gym membership. They didn't live in a metropolis where no labor was demanded of them and their bodies grew rancid. Comparing the way greek figures to /fit/cels is like comparing someone feom a fishing villa to those gay ass professional fishers with countless gadgets and doo zits

>>24572727
it's not possible to separate yourself for whatever you say. no one can escape subjectivity. there are athletes who die in their mid 20s and some develop severe join pains and muscle injuries that won't heal for life. people who die at 95 even though they have never exercised in their lives.

again point is that there are billion ways to spend life. you're not special for picking up some iron or getting punched in the head which has made you retarded.

>>24572746
>durr there are millions of ways to spend your life
then why do you get so mad and defensive about this particular one? there are also millions of ways to exercise and do sports, on average people who exercise are way more likely to live longer and better lives than those who don't, being sedentary is a risk factor for all of the most common causes of death, it literally makes you stupider too.
nobody said anyone is special for exercising either, thats a boogeyman living rentfree in your head. i really wonder when 4chan got so many posters completely lacking in selfawareness.
>DOOD STOP SHOVING YOUR STUPID "GOOD" LIFESTYLE ONTO EVERYBODY, IM AN INDIVIDUALIST NIHILIST THATS WHY *YOUR* VIEW IS WRONG

>>24572765
>>then why do you get so mad and defensive about this particular one?
because sportsfaggots and gymfaggots shove your shit down everyone's throats.
>most common causes of death,
and gymcels and sportscels survive death? most get a terrible disease and then die. i know old people who died in 90s. none of them ever went to gym or played some sports. i would rather spent my evenings in a room filled with cigarette smoke and poetry reading than in the company of health freak shallow motherfuckers.
>NIHILIST
i am a relativist. stop presuming shit you don't understand

>>24572774
the old people who didn't exercise are exceptions to the rule, had better diets, or likely were not sedentary in their life back in the day. the effects of exercise are one of the most well documented things in history/science. i can say the same shit too, even elite athletes that push it to a point of unhealthiness often live to their 90s or beyond, even many boxers did so without CTE despite having brawler styles. your arguments are horrible and fallacious. if you do not move, your joints and cartilage and muscles will decay, there is no way around this, if you want to be a dependent living with assistance not being able to walk when you're like 60 then thats up to you, dont take it so personally that others don't want to be a miserable weakling like you.

>>24572717
Stop being fat, nigger.

>>24563633 (OP)
I love the assumption that OP is deriding exercise as a whole and not just sports. Like no one is saying you shouldn't take care of your body but playing sports is not really the most efficient method for that. Hell, there clearly is a baseball bat in that basket, a sport where most players just stand around most of the time lol the most activity you will get from baseball is running around the bases in intervals once every half an hour.

>>24572786
>history/science.
i don't believe in history or science. both are religions. life is so unpredictable and weird that anything is possible. i might wake into a totally different dream. whatever you're saying doesn't concern me. you carry billion presuppositions to justify your religion. i think old age itself a disease. anyone who lives above 50 is an abomination and a leech. i don't consider healthy what you consider "healthy". there are billion theories on health. sports injuries are a lifetime turmoil. i won't risk it. having fun with your mind numbing rationality when life is irrational.

>>24572818
you should try being fat. it's pretty liberating to defy all of health and medical industry's propaganda. just the existence of being fat make certain retards seethe. smoke cigarettes, eat food, read good books, fucks prostitutes, go to literary gatherings, ride motorcycles, sleep in graveyard, walking circles, talk with trees, ask hobos for medical advice and drink wine. i would highly recommend it.

>>24572925
its not just about health, games are fun and exercise enhances life in general, all the things you mentioned are better when you exercise, ofcourse you're going to be selectively blind/deaf regarding all the arguments used and just want to rant your fat ass off because 4cuck is full of insufferable retards like you.

>>24572543
Most of the Greek thinkers promoted physical fitness and enjoyed watching sports but not participating. Plebs danced for the master and the masters didn’t worship them for their skill. It was for their entertainment.

Psychical activity is so heathy I can’t imagine being retarded enough to hate it. Most of our healthcare system is subsidizing being fat right now in 2025. If everyone would run and cut some carbs we could save millions

>>24572925
>defy
kek, post bloodwork and vo2max.

>>24572947
>games are fun and exercise enhances life in general,
doesn't feel fun to me. 2 liters coke bottle is more fun than any sports or gym bullshit in the whole world. i have never eaten what they call healthy. you're just buttblasted that why some people don't live by the guidelines of your religion of science.

>>24572956
>kek, post bloodwork and vo2max.
>HECKING LOOK AT THE NUMBERS ON THE SCREEN BROOOO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS
i don't worship your religion. life is much much vaster than your calculations.

>>24572950
Again Greeks were religious and intellectual people. Their Olympics was a deeply religious event and not an advertisement monkey show for globo corporations.

>>24572967
no i just think you're really pathetic, i never see anyone fat being happy, the vitamin deficiencies, hormonal imbalances and lack of dopamine sensitivity makes them all depressed as fuck and dependent on SSRI's that make them even fatter.
same with all the people i know that never exercised, or merely did shitty labour their whole life, decayed and fucked up by 45, aged twice as fast.
"i dont exercise because i like to enjoy things" is hilariously contradictory, even if being in perpetual pain and immobility is fun to you i don't really care because its your choice, just don't act like its a false worldview that i'm obligating others to perpetuate while you act like yours is, you're insanely hypocritical, stupid and pathetic.

>>24572979
>the vitamin deficiencies, hormonal imbalances and lack of dopamine sensitivity
this is weird gobbledygook of your religion of science. none of it is real. life is more strange and vast. fat people are unhappy because they take alchemist tablets churned out by priests in white coats. i am insanely happy. coke makes me happy like a child. there is joy in smaller things and dreams and there are alien states of mind that totally forbidden to retards who follow the religion of science. nothing is objective. everything is permitted. what you call a deficiency is an alternative state ought to be explored. this is why opium is the greatest medicine known to mankind. one can live freely. one must shed the programming of modern religion of science.

>>24568693
grow up

>>24573000
alright man
you can stop coping anytime, many people were fat and disgusting at some point, all it takes is the first step to pick up a dumbbell and you'll realise you feel and perform better doing everything afterwards. its not too late to stop being pathetic.

>>24573019
these are typical subhuman monkeys making a show of themselves for the benefit of followers of the religion of science. i don't play by your rules. in fact im not even fat or skinny or buffed i don't know what you're talking about. and i don't worship iron. i worship trees. you're too pea brained to understand what i am talking about. consciousness is expansive. but the religion of science is a lobotomy done by priest in white coats. they waged a global war through intellect. magic is very real.

>>24573029
why are you in denial of sports being practiced for recreation? many pro athletes also don't earn shit at all yet simply want to be the best, they want to work hard and have it pay off, out-skill their opponents, and be written in history books. fighters especially know they will never get rich off it with the exception of boxers, they sacrifice their health for the joy and glory of fighting. most olympians according to studies would give up half of their life in trade of reaching their goals.

>>24573029
>everything is a religion which is bad because i say so, except what i believe because im fat and lazy

>>24573062
i don't use numbers above than 6. and i know that 0 was the real fall. a far east forged it. here is the refutation of your "studies". dude i don't about your religion. i have told you so. exercise might open one state but you're missing the alien states which you label as sickness. those deficiencies are dreams manifesting themselves into the real. who said life is comfort? it is many things. and vast things.

>>24573068
religion of science is the most wretched religion.

>>24573029
>in fact im not even fat or skinny or buffed i don't know what you're talking about.
if you're skinnyfat thats as bad as being obese, i'm gonna guess you live off mostly calories from soda, with protein/nutrient deficient "food" like frozen pizza, i used to live like that until my early 20s and you start to look like a skinny guy with fat instead of muscles, just smooth arms and legs with no definition, your body is in a kind of starvation mode running off of pure glucose to preserve itself, it'll speedrun you to diabetes, cancer, chronic illnesses due to weakened immune system, boneloss, arthritis and heartdisease in the end, besides all the immediate effects such as having the grip strength of a 5 year old girl, constant headaches brainfog and fatigue, not being able to walk a few miles without having to stop multiple times and having your whole body ache.

>>24573103
i drink soda and eat sour dough. but you're right. maybe i should go to gym. from where i should start?

>>24563783
Being a Mets fan has taught me more about suffering than any book ever could.

>>24572545
wrong as fuck

>>24573120
you don't have to go to the gym, the gym is where all the simpletons go, just eat some more things that come out of the ground or from an animal, you can get started with some simple calisthenics every other day, add a dumbbell set for some curls and row movements, or pick one of many sports, learn to dance or do yoga if thats what you like. you'll see results fast doing just that.

>>24573128
maybe not aesthetically but healthwise it does. ofcourse sports vary a lot so it depends, nobody says you become a beast by bowling.