Jesus left not a Bible but an ecclesical structure which gave us the Bible. 1 Timothy 3:15 says the Church is the pillar and ground of truth and the passing on of the Holy Spirit by the laying of hands gave us the graduated ecclesical structure that gave us the Bible and continues till today by the Holy Spirit. Below is the timeline of the Church, think it over.

>>24571814 (OP)
Why does every Christian denomination claim they’re the original one with timelines that always have their church as the prime branch and what does this have to do with /lit/? At least I’d you were a Bible humping Protestant or evangelical Christian, you could’ve made a Bible study thread.

Do you think sectarianism helps Christianity? In real life, a Christian can walk into an Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant church and be accepted. Promoting unity is always better.

As a Muslim, sectarianism is literally deadly. I promote Islamic unity at all opportunities, as the zionist Jews weaponize Islamic sectarianism to sow sectarian violence to destabilize Muslim nations for imperialist oppression and conquest.

Look at the Holy Land today. The zionist Jews genocide Christians, mostly Catholic and Orthodox, and sectarianism prevents Christendom from uniting against them.

The oppression of the zionist Jews unites Muslims. Hamas is Sunni Islamists, Hizb Allah is Shia Islamists, both united against a common enemy. If only Christians would unite against the satanic zionist entity.

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Every Christian denomination has a glimpse of the fullness of faith and the hope in Christ but we need to rely on history, tradition and reasoning to see who's truly speaking the truth. The Bible is a book, might as well speak about who gave it to us.

>>24571857

I don't have a problem with interfaith dialogue either and believe it is important. I wish you could see the bigger picture here and what is at stake in Jerusalem.

Do you know that Muslims are entrusted with the keys to open and close the doors of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre? Christian monks will literally physically fight each other over use of the holy site, such as Greek Orthodox and Armenian Orthodox, so Muslims have to keep the peace. Much like Christians, we do not reject Christ.

I wish Christians would spend more time uniting each other than dividing each other over what is essentially theological ethno-religious geopolitics.

At least you believe in God, that is sadly becoming rarer in our times. I prefer a Christian over an atheist any day.

>>24571857
>The Bible is a book, might as well speak about who gave it to us.
The institutionalized church of the Roman Empire? And then the different “branches” of “apostolic” Christianity started appearing. The east/west schism was literally a political divide despite anybody trying to claim it was truly over theology. Anyways, I’m perpetually surprised with how many autists in the west are allured by Eastern Orthodoxy, though maybe it’s because orthodox priests are literally neck beards. And yes, I have been to orthodox churches and broadly know orthodox theology since I was curious what all the autists were talking about. But lol, these churches were filled with old Slavs and a metric shitton of autistic men with quite a few openly talking about shitposting on 4chan during the coffee hour.

Just make creation more like god.

Our venerable father James the Ascetic (also known as Jacob the Ascetic or the Righteous - feastday January 28), a 4th century saint, left all worldly things to settle for fifteen years in a cave near a village called Porphyrianos. There he led an ascetic's life... a nobleman who had a daughter possessed by demons offered her to the saint for healing. The saint prayed and immediately freed her from the demon. The girl's father, though, was afraid that the demon would disturb her again, and so he left her and her young brother in the cave of the saint. Unfortunately, the saint was defeated by desire and slept with the maiden. He then became afraid that his abhorrent sin would be revealed, so he killed the woman and her brother and threw their dead bodies in the nearby river.

>>24571814 (OP)
Any branch could, and often do, make a graph like this and claim to be "tHE TRVE CHVRCH". The real truth is that what is most important is the presence of Christ within the individual. Most if not all of the pre-Nicene figures would've been horrified to find out that their religion would become a literal state asset for over a thousand years. It was not originally about having the right dogma or particular beliefs, these are all mere dressings for what is actually important.

>>24571814 (OP)
Its a vehicle for Slavic political adventurism.

Filioque.

>>24571861
The truth is beautiful and freeing, it alivens the souls and puts to death evil. To be mislead into believing something inferior deadens the soul, traps it under false pretenses. We're to worship God in spirit and in truth. What could the correct doctrine and tradition, worldview, do for our souls? What could the wrong one do?

>>24571892
Put the rest, anon.

"Thus, he despaired completely of his salvation and made haste to return to the world. But on his way he met a pious monk. The saint obeyed this monk's advice: he shut himself in a grave where he suffered every kind of hardship and torment.

Some time later, when the land suffered from drought and lack of rain, God ordered the bishop of the city that unless James who was shut in the grave prayed, the dry spell would not end. Then the bishop together with all the people went to the saint, begged and finally convinced him to pray for them. As soon as he prayed there came a heavy rain. From this sign the saint received good hope about his salvation. In this way he commended his soul into the hands of God."

Endure till the end, never despair!

>>24571845
Fallacious thinking. Just because everyone erroneously says they're the true church, doesn't mean there's not a true church. Look into Church history, anon. Something spiritually aliveing is waiting.

>>24571875
The Church was before being adopted by Rome, persecuted by Rome, anon. It was the witness and arguments of Church Fathers over time that allowed Christianity and the Orthodox Church to be accepted by Rome. The Church isn't a Roman invention nor tool, we've interdependent churches lead by patriarchs. Patriarchs have fallen and been compromised but tjay compromise puts them outside the Church, not corrupting it. Jesus made a promise the Church would prevail against the gates of hell and that means against anyone. Even you.