Thread 24573027 - /lit/

Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:47:04 PM No.24573027
white-nights
white-nights
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It surprises me that this got viral on TikTok. Isn't it much too abstract for normies?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:52:14 PM No.24573042
It is, that's why normies don't catch the metaphysical discussion in the book only the romance
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 6:55:07 PM No.24573053
>>24573027 (OP)
Nabby predicted this
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 7:58:02 PM No.24573284
>>24573027 (OP)
American youths read Crime & Punishment in school. White Nights is a short book, which is key for normie capture of a classic.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:00:40 PM No.24573540
>>24573027 (OP)
When you type "best books of all times", that hack Dosto is in nearly every single lists, just like Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time is in every "best games" generic listing on the web. Remember that anyone partaking in a site such as Tik Tok is feeding off the algorithm in any topic whatsoever, and this is no exception. There's also the simple possibility that they are larping, who cares.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:03:11 PM No.24573792
>>24573027 (OP)
>abstract
It's literally a dude talking about three times in his life that he walked a girl home to her boyfriend. It's not abstract at all.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:05:39 PM No.24573804
>>24573792

this. maybe we're normies??? literally felt like i was reading an incel's journal
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:09:32 PM No.24573821
>>24573792
Lmao I want to read this now. It it more hilarious than Underground man's nefarious plans of walking down the street and facing his abuser?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:25:25 PM No.24573860
Is there a Constance Garnett of this? I will only read Constance Garnett
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:36:07 PM No.24574026
>>24573284
>American youths read Crime & Punishment in school.
How does this lie keep getting perpetuated?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:37:09 PM No.24574028
>>24573860
No, itโ€™s by some guy whose name I canโ€™t recall off hand.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:38:48 PM No.24574030
>>24574026
Happy New Year, Charlie Brown
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:50:41 AM No.24574483
>>24573821
No, it's Dostoyevsky at his most sentimental and maudlin. It's 100% sincere in its assertion that the cuck should be happy it happened than that it never happened at all. It's extremely blue-pilled.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:26:09 AM No.24574551
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>i fucking wish modern readers read from my favourite dead writer and fall in love with classic literature.
>no-no NOT LIKE THIS!!
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:59:50 AM No.24574618
>>24574483
No you dumbass, it's not about the woman at all. The guy lives his life in a dream-world because nothing ever happens to him in real life. There's no assertion of anything, only the question of whether or not one interesting thing happening to him could be enough to sustain his dream-world for the rest of his life. He never actually gave a fuck about the woman, he was only interested in her because her situation reminded him of the melodramatic situations from his novels and daydreams.

Dosto viciously mocks actual cucks in Another Man's Wife and The Eternal Husband, it's ridiculous to suggest that he thinks cuckoldry is a good thing.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:02:40 AM No.24574620
>>24573027 (OP)
>can be read in 30 mins
Short stories are perfect for zoomers' reduced attention span
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:03:50 AM No.24574622
>>24573821

no i found notes from underground much funnier. white nights is almost like a prototype before he plunges into full inceldom
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:05:10 AM No.24574625
>>24574618

i bought it as shakespeare and company in paris and read it on my way home (irrelevant but makes me feel smart.) anyways, do you have any quotes from the text to backup your assertion here? because when i read it i didn't get any sense of this secondary layer.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:14:41 AM No.24574646
>>24574625
Read more Dosto, retard.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:20:08 AM No.24574660
>>24574625
I can't be assed to dig up quotes right now. For evidence within the text itself all I can say is ctrl+f "dream" to find the passages where the narrator explains himself to both the woman and the audience. Within Dosto's career you just need to bear in mind that during the period of his life just before and just after Siberia he was very interested in lampooning romanticism. He seems very sentimental and maudlin here because he's deliberately writing a parody of very sentimental and maudlin books, and the people who read to many such books. White Night and Notes From Underground both set up a scenario where a very romantic book would have the troubled girl choose the nice guy - complete with the nice guy being very genre-aware - and then slaps you with the reality that the troubled girl is fickle and the nice guy is contemptible. Probably the most on-the-nose example of Dosto subverting romanticism is the ending of Uncle's Dream, where the guy is fed some storybook scenario about a girl approaching him at a ball but then she doesn't notice him at all so he goes home.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:39:50 PM No.24575389
>>24573792
>>24573042
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:03:11 PM No.24575427
>>24573042
The same applies for Kafka's Metamorphosis btw
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:56:15 PM No.24575514
>>24574618
>He never actually gave a fuck about the woman
This is cope and you know it. You're merely banking on the fact that /lit/ doesn't read to be able to assert this.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:58:51 PM No.24575516
>>24573540
I remember my friend was watching an Ocarina Of Time playthrough and the guy doing the playthrough said "oops I fell into hole" in the most gayest sounding voice ever.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:00:22 PM No.24575520
>>24573027 (OP)
It is. They just like the aesthetic of pretending they read it.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:31:26 PM No.24575584
>>24573042
>>24575427
Unlike /lit/ posters who only read the plot summary and analysis on wikipedia, right?
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:33:29 PM No.24575587
>>24575584
/lit/ posters are the Gods of literature stfu
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:46:31 PM No.24575727
>>24575584
you mean the /lit/ posters that imagine some inexistent metaphysical/metaphorical (they use these words interchangeably) and comment about that so they feel superior to the average reader who actually gets more out of a book by simply taking it literally as it's supposed to be read.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:48:52 PM No.24575735
>>24575727
>by simply taking it literally as it's supposed to be read.
That is not how any book is meant to be read.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:17:38 PM No.24575801
>>24575584
>>24575587
>>24575735
/lit/ posters are the Gods of literature because we know that books are not supposed to be read period, not even plot summary and analysis on wikipedia

Books are literally paper accessories meant to suggest the author's genealogy and physiognomy for consideration, so that he can then be celebrated or ridiculed on ther basis.