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Anonymous No.24575277 >>24577052 >>24577374 >>24577510 >>24577521 >>24577919
>english has iambic pentameter
>french has alexandrine
>spanish has romance
>italian has the hendecasyllable
>greek has dactylic hexameter and iambic trimeter
What does german have? knittelvers?
Anonymous No.24575279
They got eepen-gloopen shleepen schlobben. Everyone uses Esperanto these days so who cares.
Anonymous No.24575770
Iambic pentameter
Anonymous No.24576898 >>24576916
I don't know nor do I care to know what iambic pentameter is. In fact my brain started to analyze the latin roots of the words and deduce what it is and I actively blocked my brain from doing that with meditation techniques. Such is my desire not to know about the gay shit you are talking about.
Anonymous No.24576916
>>24576898
Huh? every English speaker over the age of thirteen knows what iambic pentameter is. Also
>latin roots
lol
Anonymous No.24577052 >>24577504
>>24575277 (OP)
Tapping into my classical music knowledge for this one:

>Goethe / Schubert: Gretchen am Spinnrade
Meine Ruh ist hin,
Mein Herz ist schwer,
Ich finde sie nimmer
Und nimmermehr.

2 stressed syllables per line, alternating anapests and iambs. ABCB.

>Goethe / Schubert: Erlkönig
Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind?
Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind:
Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm,
Er fasst ihn sicher, er hält ihn warm.

4 stressed syllables per line, alternating anapests and iambs. AABB.

>Rückert / Schubert: Du bist die Ruh'
Du bist die Ruh,
Der Friede mild,
Die Sehnsucht du,
Und was sie stillt.

s L s L

Iambic dimeter. ABAB.

>Schubart / Schubert: Die Forelle
In einem Bächlein helle,
Da schoß in froher Eil
Die launische Forelle
Vorüber wie ein Pfeil.

s L s L s L s
s L s L s L

Similar to common meter, but with 1 less syllable. ABAB.

>Heine / Schumann: Ich grolle nicht
Ich grolle nicht, und wenn das Herz auch bricht,
Ewig verlor’nes Lieb! ich grolle nicht.
Wie du auch strahlst in Diamantenpracht,
Es fällt kein Strahl in deines Herzens Nacht.

s L s L s L s L s L

iambic pentameter, just like Shakespeare. AABB.

>anything by Mahler:
Mahler wrote his own texts for his lieder so he kinda just did whatever
Anonymous No.24577374
>>24575277 (OP)
the nibelungenlied uses common meter
Anonymous No.24577504
>>24577052
Ode to Joy would be

L s L s L s L s
L s L s L s L
Anonymous No.24577510 >>24577582
>>24575277 (OP)
German has the greatest gift of all: Being able to make up new words on the fly and have them sound totally natural and normal.
Anonymous No.24577521
>>24575277 (OP)
>What does german have? knittelvers?
German has both iambic pentameter but also knittelvers, yes. Like English they're in the rather awkward spot of being a Germanic language that uses classical metres, but they're fortunate in that their untainted Germanism also allows them to use and return to more native metres like knittelvers and stabreim.
Anonymous No.24577582
>>24577510
They call this scheissenausrandomworterindasmomentunddasfunkzioniertenpfraffenschlagen
Anonymous No.24577919 >>24578293
>>24575277 (OP)
It bothers me that while there's a convention for how to adapt Latin/Greek quantitative meter into modern European languages (long/short = stressed/unstressed), but no equivalent convention for how to adapt Chinese tonal meter.
Anonymous No.24577922
who cares it'd be lipstick on a pig anyway
Anonymous No.24578293 >>24578297
>>24577919
>isn't it weird that there aren't any easy equavalences for this language from the other side of the globe that is completely different in almost every way?
Anonymous No.24578297
>>24578293
But ancient Greek is also quite different from English, and its meter works differently than English's, but we've established an equivalence-convention. But even though we've been translating Chinese poetry into European languages for well over a century no equivalence-convention has been established there.