Thread 24582176

>"Learning a language" (other than english)
>Spending 3+ years of your life and energy for something native speakers do with no effort
>Doesn't matter because every book is translated and computer translation works for conversation
>Could've learned something cooler, more useful, that'll make you money instead
>But you chose to "speak a language" like every native speaker can, meaning no one gives a fuck
Wha- Wha??

I mean i gotta eventually learn chinese in case my boys in red invade so I can join them

>learned something cooler, more useful, that’ll make you money instead
Like a new anime to watch? You monkeys are so tiresome. Anyway learning a new language is piss easy these days. You’re just lazy.

>>24582176 (OP)
Sorry you care about wageslaving tranime poster I’ll be over here immersing myself in a world of culture like a human being instead of a faggot

>>24582176 (OP)
All the good jap H games aren't translated for being too powerful for westoid eyes. you are using an anime pfp, so shame on you for this, ironic ******

>>24582176 (OP)
Tradutore, traditore, nigger
And learning a second language is a prerequisite for foreign service

>>24582200
>>24582206
I just copied the image off another thread. You guys are the equivalent of weaboos learning Japanese to read manga.

>I’ll be over here immersing myself in a world of culture like a human being instead of a faggot
I hope this is a joke. It's like Napoleon Dynamite dialogue.

>>24582176 (OP)
Learning Russian unfortunately made me racist toward Russian people. I pretty much exclusively read 19th century Russian literature because I just don't like how they are now lmao. I also intentionally mispronounce the language when I read poems because I do not like how much they emphasize syllables when they read poetry.

>>24582529
Why did you learn Ruski?

>>24582531
I was a bit of a russiaboo back when I didn't know much about them. This was in 2014 and I was a bit edgy about politics then and thought Russia was "based" and so on. I just thought they were cool idk, I was a dumb teenager.

It has been worth it purely for being able to access Pushkin and Lermontovs poetry in any case. Pushkin is so insanely good in Russian it's honestly hard to even describe. It's straight up Shakespeare tier, I actually like it better.

>>24582176 (OP)
Not every japanese book is translated into english. And I'm not talking about underground novels, I'm talking about some of the most popular and influential japanese novels

>>24582525
so bait thread? I would rage about how /lit/ has barely any serious posters but i feel for it

>>24582176 (OP)
Why do the demons populating this website hate polyglots

>>24582525
You‘re the joke if engaging in meaningful pursuits sounds satirical to you.

>>24582176 (OP)
Every book most definitely is not translated, and there's a difference between talking to someone directly and through an interpreter, whether that interpreter be human or digital. (Also it's hard to even meaningfully translate poetry.)
>>24582547
Oh, such as? I'm curious for good material to read.

>>24582176 (OP)
it's excusable if it's Japanese. lmaoing @ anything else.

>>24583074
Why only Japanese?

>>24583083
basically anime.

>>24583069
>Oh, such as?
There is a very big scene of mystery in japanese literature. Only one (Dogra Magra) from the three novels with most influence has been translated into english, and it only did 2 or 3 years ago.
Google "The Three great mysteries".

>>24583085
And other countries don't make cartoons?
>>24583087
I don't read a lot of mystery novels in any language, but I'll consider it.

>>24582176 (OP)
>>Could've learned something cooler, more useful, that'll make you money instead
tell me you're American without telling me

>>24583090
They are actually anti-mystery and they are not mystery as in murder mystery but as in a strange a bizarre plot that needs an explanation.

>>24583096
I'm struggling to picture what sort of thing you mean, are there any notable works in English that fall under this heading?

>>24583091
is it because he's speaking common sense? I don't get it.

>>24583099
When we talk about the "mystery" genre in literature we usually think of detectivesque books, like Sherlock Holmes, Hercules Poirot, or Father Brown, where usually a crime happens and the detective needs to solve the mystery of why, how, and who did it.
Japanese "mystery" is kind of different, because the mystery is not like that at all, but rather that the plot itself is mysterious and the characters or even yourself need to solve it.
Anti-mystery is the subvertion of the genre, breaking its main core elements.
To put an example: in the middle ages there were a lot of chivalry books where knights were romanticized. Don Quixote would be an anti-chilvalry novel, because it breaks the main conventions for a chivalry novel. Yes, the protagonist is a knight, yet he is actually only a knight inside his mind, and in reality he is a delusional old man convincing people he is one until the truth is shown. It works as a knight book because after all he ends up having knightly adventures, even if they are only inside his mind, but it subverts the genre.

>>24583108
You are on a board dedicated to reading primarily fictional literature. There are things in life that you do without the premise of capital gain. Unbelievable for an American, I know, but have some cultural sensitivity for those of us with feelings.

>>24583108
Americans value making money over anything else. No skill is worth having if it doesn't result in making money from it. It's such a rancid viewpoint that only an American could have.

translation is one of the coziest jobs and it's in high demand.

>>24583253
Hasn't machine translation and now AI driven down demand for it? Even if someone isn't willing to publish an AI translation, it seems like often they'll just give it to a human to proofread rather than have a human translate from scratch.

>>24583108
He's pointing out that Americans value money over everything.
Your identity, your value as a person in America is tied to your wealth.
That's how MrBeast got so popular, he kept giving people lots of money for content; giving people money is the epitome of kindness and recieving a lot of money is the epitome of success.

Learning a language is a great investment in your multicultural experience as well as in your job prospects.

You might've been unemployed for a long time, otherwise you would've seen that knowing a foreign language is a huge advantage for competitors. Not to mention how much boost it gives to your brain capacities.

>>24582176 (OP)
Anon...
I work in the foreign relations ministry...
Ever thought maybe your line of work wouldn't benefit from an extra language but others might? What if an engineer wants to work in Germany for better job opportunities? What if a lawyer has to work with people who don't speak english so well?
There's not a single loss from learning a foreign language unless it's some obscure barely spoken shit like albanian or whatever. It literally only opens up more opportunities for you. It's not like you'd spend that time in a better way by using 4chan anyway dumbass

>>24583365
Even Albanian is useful if you're going to be spending a lot of time in Albania or around Albanians who don't speak English.

>>24582529
that is unironically why I advise every chud to learn Russian language and dive into their tg channels or mainstream domestic news media
Most effective vaccine from being a contrarian
>t. Pyзгe

>>24582529
This is me except with Germans. They WERE gigabased, but now they're beyond cucked. Still, there's an infinite supply of kino pre-1945 German literature so don't have to read anything post-1945.

>>24583091
>>24583187
>>24583248
>>24583301
I'm not american and I said "more money" after "cooler and more useful," as in something that you love AND could maybe make you a living. Working 9-5 is BAD.

>>24583365
>What if an engineer wants to work in Germany for better job opportunities?
Obviously, but the best opportunities are in English-speaking countries. What you said is very situational. I'm saying it as someone who doesn't benefit professionally in learning another language.

>>24582176 (OP)
They don't do it with no effort, they started earlier than you.

>>24582176 (OP)
I feel retarded as an Amerimutt for only knowing one language while even third worlders know at least two

>>24583605
That‘s primarily a few media darlings and fags like Böll. Talking to a significant portion of the German people behind closed doors is illuminating.

>every book is translated
Simply not true.

>>24585522
AI will fix that

изyчaл pyccкий язык 4 гoдa
ничeгo нe пoнимaю
я плaчy

люди нe дyмaют чтo я кpyтoй. oни дyмaют чтo я инцeл

>>24583132
Were those the precursor to the "brain crack" genre of VNs and video games?

>>24585526
>implying I even trust human translators
not even accounting for ideology