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Anonymous No.24602228 [Report] >>24602278 >>24602286 >>24602292 >>24602330 >>24602332 >>24602356 >>24602418 >>24602730 >>24603007 >>24608776 >>24608881 >>24609227 >>24609244
How do you write dialog?

What do you mean? asked Joe.

or

What do you mean? Joe asked.
Anonymous No.24602233 [Report] >>24602274 >>24607733
—How do you write dialogue?
—What do you mean?
Anonymous No.24602235 [Report]
This is one of those rare instances where watching movies or just listening to people speaking would be more useful than reading. Lots of authors write horrific dialogue….and very few can capture the natural cadence of a conversation within text. It is hard to do. Sometimes I’d look at interview transcripts, just to get a feel for how people actually talk in different situations. A prison interrogation will be different from a deposition, however slightly. Context and characters are your chief concerns: what is the situation, and how does this specific person react? Much to think about
Anonymous No.24602274 [Report] >>24602303 >>24602356 >>24602366
>>24602233
How do you attribute the dialog?
Character + verb (asked/said)... or in reverse?
Anonymous No.24602278 [Report] >>24605129
>>24602228 (OP)
"What", Joe asked, "do you mean?"
Anonymous No.24602286 [Report]
>>24602228 (OP)
the second one. consider this,
>"What do you mean?" he asked
vs
>"What do you mean?" asked he.

now it's more obvious which the correct choice is
Anonymous No.24602287 [Report] >>24602764
In the glass the lukewarm watered whiskey circulated miserably. The flies flew around like missiles over Gaza.
"How do you write dialog?" Anon stood five foot nothing. His hair lip split when he spoke and his voice was ash.
Joe remembered how much he hated words and their combination. All he had learnt was how to play dumb. This cricket is sick and the medicine is silence. "What do you mean?"
Anonymous No.24602292 [Report] >>24603887 >>24607365
>>24602228 (OP)
JOE: What do you mean?
Anonymous No.24602303 [Report]
>>24602274
"The only time you should attribute dialogue is when context is not enough and most of the time attribution will not help if context is not enough." He said.
Anonymous No.24602330 [Report] >>24602348
>>24602228 (OP)
-What do you mean? Joe asked, his whole worldview on the brink of shattering into a myriad of dull, lifeless pieces which nothing that exists or will exist could ever fix it, for in this hinged Joe's life, his existence, his raison d'être, his soul. In this question, hinged Joe himself, and he would receive an answer, and then he would never be the same Joe again. Requiem for the old Joe. Banquet for the new Joe.
Anonymous No.24602332 [Report] >>24602343 >>24602790
>>24602228 (OP)
The screenplay is the highest form of literature in terms of formatting and style.
Anonymous No.24602339 [Report]
"You mean Joe" - asked what do
Anonymous No.24602343 [Report] >>24602348 >>24609665
>>24602332
ANON: The screenplay is the highest form of literature in terms of formatting and style.
ATTENDANT ANGELS: [Sounds of outrage, pandemonium]
SMALL RAT: But sir, what if one cannot speak?
OFF-SCREEN SUICIDAL SCREENWRITER: [muttering to himself] Yes, what if one has no voice?
ANON: [Triumphant] Why, if one has no voice, then one is nothing at all! [Laughs]
TOWER OF BABEL: [Incomprehensible]
Anonymous No.24602346 [Report]
"How do you write dialogue?" I inquired quizzically.
"What do you mean?" Joe ejaculated copiously.
Anonymous No.24602348 [Report]
>>24602343
kek wtf

>>24602330
:O
Anonymous No.24602356 [Report]
>>24602228 (OP)
>>24602274
"asked Joe"
V2 word order, the quote (object) takes position one, the verb must be position 2, so the subject moves back to position 3.
Anonymous No.24602366 [Report]
>>24602274
It’s your world to present as you’d like.
Anonymous No.24602418 [Report] >>24603902
>>24602228 (OP)
Real writers don't need dialogue. They use images seen reflected in dew drops to tell the story, and every metaphor contains ten more.
Anonymous No.24602730 [Report]
>>24602228 (OP)
Stilted dialogue lacks detail.
A stubborn temperamental youth would be quick to judge and make mistakes while still maintaining their pride.

But you've probably heard that before. Maybe our punk can speak like Caufield with lots of contractions and apostrophes. "For' cryin' out loud what's the fucking matter with you? Hurry it the fuck up and open the doors already".

Between people? "You're trite" their rich friend adds.

Dialogue is context. Just detail your world anon
Anonymous No.24602757 [Report]
Joe Mama
Anonymous No.24602759 [Report] >>24605129
should be obvious who is the speaker based on what we know about the character and what they believe in. if it's not obvious your characters are generic and dull
source: my ass (I haven't written anything ever)
Anonymous No.24602764 [Report] >>24603069 >>24603261
>>24602287
I really like this.
How do I write dialogue like this?
What books do I read to get this slick?
Anonymous No.24602790 [Report] >>24602799
>>24602332
Screenplays aren't literature
Anonymous No.24602799 [Report] >>24602816 >>24602915 >>24609665
>>24602790
ANON: Screenplays aren't literature
ANON: [Peers at script incredulously] This has gotta be a mistake.
OFF-SCREEN SUPER SUICIDAL SCREENWRITER: [Miserably] Not a mistake!
METATRON: [Leading angelic chorus] COME HOME ANON
[Both ANONs look up]
ANON: Lord?
ANON: [Running, stage left] It's the fucking glowies.
METH PIPE: [Sings Miserere Mei]
Anonymous No.24602808 [Report]
Realistic dialogue is less important than stylistically interesting dialogue. Speech has to flow pleasantly, but it doesn't have to flow in a way which is true to life.
Anonymous No.24602816 [Report]
>>24602799
Now this is literature
Anonymous No.24602915 [Report] >>24602924
>>24602799
actually good, I was writing a vn in my head and a little intro on notepad and it just doesnts seem right. maybe i should think of it like a play.
Anonymous No.24602924 [Report] >>24602934
>>24602915
Have you read (played) Kentucky Route Zero ?
Anonymous No.24602934 [Report] >>24602995
>>24602924
no but as someone that has lived in kentucky i am extremely averse to such a title. whats it like?
Anonymous No.24602995 [Report]
>>24602934
Feels like witnessing a play performed with a dream within a dream. It's brilliant. Not overwritten. Impossible to explain. Play it.
Anonymous No.24603007 [Report]
>>24602228 (OP)
Go to school. Read a book. Google. Ask grok. Ask your mom. Ask satan. Go literally anywhere but here.
Anonymous No.24603069 [Report] >>24603082
>>24602764
>I really like this.
>How do I write dialogue like this?
>What books do I read to get this slick?
>
If you listen and follow my example? I will put you on the path to doing dialog AND characters, in one fell swoop.
My male character (MC) I was doing good with. My first novel attempt. His dialog and descriptions was obviously a little self-insert. I can draw on myself for what I might say or do, were I him in his situation. But... I had trouble with female characters, and "banter" between side characters.
Example. The inane banter between two cops on a murder scene and the command center goes up around the body.
It wasn't working, at all.
I was given the answer, by a book store owner.
"Use character models"
"Huh?"
"Character... models. You base your character's choice of speech? Based on a real life person that you cn just close your eyes and you know what they would say and how they would say it."
Example. The two older uniform cops bantering before the investigators take over dialog? These two old men carping about this and that medical things at the truck stop? I knew them and used them as character models. Suddenly? My two cops were bantering about one has high blood pressure, and the wife makes them eat shit food. You never tell anyone WHO is the character model, you just use them and give them a new name. Now? Your dialog, actions, look, expressions? You "know" intimately, what this character will say and do, and how they say and do it.
This automatically gives your character those needed flaws, too.
I need a charming but smart-alack receptionist? I used a waitress at the same truck stop. She was short and rounded, but a cute face and dated better looking guys than she really should. Her bubbly personality carried her with her cute face. I put her in office clothes? She became the secretary.
Use character models? You will break through to character flaws and dialog that's believable.
You can thank me later, after you try several writing tests, and this starts to work.
Anonymous No.24603082 [Report]
>>24603069
when this starts to work, you will now have unlocked "real characters". You can now imagine people you have met and know? Are your characters in your story. It makes it all a LOT easier.
So now you have rich, real, believable characters with strengths and flaws.
Next? Take the most *basic* of trope plots in the genre. Rich characters with realistic dialog? Do more than the overcomplicated plot you think you must come up with to make a "decent" novel.
Then? After a couple of these... when you DO get that "big plot idea", you have characters and dialog ability to really make it shine more.
Also? Pick a favorite author and style and adopt it.
This is the voice of experience, anon.
Anonymous No.24603261 [Report]
>>24602764
As the anon — when I find exact prose I read the book again and again until it repatterns my mind. I've read The Name of the Rose ten times or more. Wolf Hall the same. Cormac's Sutree and The Crossing. Your mind eats words. Choose the words it feeds upon. Same mechanic as food. That being said I'm pretty shit and I wrote that post as an overwritten joke.
Anonymous No.24603887 [Report] >>24604616
>>24602292
OP didn't even include this children's book-tier dialogue format for a reason.
Anonymous No.24603902 [Report]
>>24602418
How can someone be so based... and write so sexy?
Anonymous No.24604616 [Report]
>>24603887
you must be one of those intellectuals I've heard so much about
Anonymous No.24605129 [Report] >>24605148
“How do I write dialog? What a question…” I muse, tapping my finger against my chin.
“Bow howdy, you got some kinda oral fixation there?”
I shoot a glance over my shoulder: Norm fucking MacDonald. “Back from the dead? You must have had Satan by the balls you old lump of coal.”
“Dead? I wasn’t even sick.”
I cross my arms. “I ain’t gay,” I state, staring into his eyes. They twinkle and slightly sparkle.
“Just deeply closeted!” we declare in unison, linking arms as we skip off towards the horizon.
>>24602278
very, very good
>>24602759
valuable contribution from a reader
Anonymous No.24605148 [Report]
>>24605129
As a reader of your post, i got the sense that you are amusing and have a fun sense of humor. You gave norm mcdonald a life and playfullness i never saw in any of his routines (hes boring! but when juxtaposed with a normalfag, he seems like cervantes himself!)
Anonymous No.24607271 [Report]
This is a good kot.
Anonymous No.24607365 [Report]
>>24602292
This is how it should be done. It's better than having to read "asked" and "said" two hundred times per novel.
Anonymous No.24607733 [Report] >>24608969
>>24602233
Go to bed, Irvine.
Anonymous No.24608776 [Report]
>>24602228 (OP)
"What," asked Joe, "do you mean?"
Anonymous No.24608881 [Report]
>>24602228 (OP)
What do you mean "asked Joe."
Anonymous No.24608969 [Report]
>>24607733
>t. has read 8 book!
More than most here, I guess that is something.
Anonymous No.24609227 [Report]
>>24602228 (OP)
"What (asked Joe) mean you?"
Anonymous No.24609244 [Report]
>>24602228 (OP)
Joe cocked his head
"What do you mean?"
Anonymous No.24609458 [Report] >>24609582
...and JOE, condefcending on OPf fhittye Threade, fpake Thuf: what do You meane?
Anonymous No.24609582 [Report]
>>24609458
said anon has he dug cheese off his dickhead and sucked his fingers clean.
JOE, disgust palpable: What the fuck is wrong with you?
Anonymous No.24609665 [Report]
>>24602343
>>24602799
Anon I love these.